The most horrible car accident. Very GRAPHIC

[Streetwise]

Car wrecks.

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/02/gory-car-crash/

Its back up, BUT BE WARNED IT IS BAD AND GRAPHIC

[Sniper]

Thats fucken sick. Its horrible how people discrace others by posting suck sick shit on the net showing dead bodies.

Not cool man, not cool

[bugjuice]

at least they would only have had a second of fear, then it'd all be over
for the driver tho, how he gets trapped in it, but only a few scratches, that'll freak him out for a while.. may be he'll slow down

[Streetwise]

Ive changed the site, Any way the heading was The most car horible accident, Very GRAPHIC ,

What dont you understand.??

[marty]

the one with the bmw bike into the golf made even ME cringe. and i don't cringe easy you know.

[marty]

oh i thought that was the site.

i've seen plenty of crashed cars with dead guys. burnt ones are the worst - 5 in a car in te rapa one night. pretty nasty - on it's roof, burst into flames while we were approaching it - had to watch it burn while waiting for fire to get there. not very nice.

[Smorg]

:sick: Fuck that is fucken disgusting, although suprisingly not the worse thing i have seen since the introduction of the internet:gob:

[Streetwise]

yea its sick as fuck, But it opens your eyes,

[Lias]

Someone post the original link for us slow bastards.

[Sniper]

What dont you understand.??

We understand, but its the willingness to show someone elses misfortune or pain to others thats the problem. If you had a fatal off Im sure your family or friends would not like your mutilated body all over the net for others to look at and cringe.

I would expect a couple of my friends to be knocking on the culprits doors and teaching him a thing about respect of the dead.

Now Im not saying that you are the main culprit, its the guys who took the photos that are the arseholes, but we really didn't need you to share.

[Streetwise]

Fair enough, But i did pull it off this forum and ive been asked to put it back up, Reality hurts though dosnt it.

[Sniper]

Yea I know, I was just putting forward my veiwpoint.


By the way what is 9 hours to go mean, ???
Wait till tonight and see

[Streetwise]

By the way what is 9 hours to go mean, ???

[Streetwise]

Point taken, and understood,

[terbang]

Hmm not pleasant..

[Streetwise]

Hmm not pleasant..


Nice pic by the way

[onearmedbandit]

Wow, that is very graphic, although I have seen it before on ogrish.

[marty]

i certainly wouldn't say this was the most horrible. sure it's not very nice, but pretty standard injuries for a high speed crash really.

the ones where their brain is exposed and steaming, but they're still alive, quietly aware that they are going to die very soon, are worse.

[Paul in NZ]

i certainly wouldn't say this was the most horrible. sure it's not very nice, but pretty standard injuries for a high speed crash really.

the ones where their brain is exposed and steaming, but they're still alive, quietly aware that they are going to die very soon, are worse.

In my extremely limited experience, they are often not that quiet about it....

[John]

Wonder if I should worry if I laughed.

[marty]

it's the quiet ones that you need to worry about the most. if they've got the energy/wherewithall to scream, their body is allowing them to do that, if they need every piece of life energy simply to stay alive, they are almost always very quiet.

[Blairos]

Thats just unpleasant... shows you how "bullet-proof" the human body ISNT...

[onearmedbandit]

To Marty, and everyone that has to attend these accidents, my hat goes off to you people.

[Biff]

Wait till tonight and see

I know, I know. And mate - sort it quick. I'll tell you why later.....

[Cookie]

That is gross but personally, I don't have any issue with it. The post title was very clear. I knew what I was clicking on. My attitude to dead bodies is summed up nicely by the great songwriter "Rolf Harris" who sang thusly:


"Tan me hide when I'm dead Fred,
Tan me hide when I'm dead."
So we tanned his hide when he died Clyde,
and that's it hanging on the shed.
Tie Me Kanagroo Down, Rolf Harris, 1963.


[edit] And yeah - Respect to those who's job it is to pick up the pieces when something like this happens.

[KATWYN]

Do I or don't I.......i'm really really curious.......but don't know
if I should look. sometimes images can burn into your brain - would these
images do that?

Katie

[Cookie]

Maybe - depends on what else you have exposed your brain to in the past.

I watched one of the early Iraq hostage beheading videos. That caused a few "intrusive flashbacks" for a few days.

[KATWYN]

Maybe - depends on what else you have exposed your brain to in the past.

I watched one of the early Iraq hostage beheading videos. That caused a few "intrusive flashbacks" for a few days.

Saw the horror motorbike crashes link.....and that was really upsetting

[Insanity_rules]

Thats sick. Amazing what you find on the internet. Take a look at my latest thread in pointless drivel. I recond thats almost as sick

[Streetwise]

Do I or don't I.......i'm really really curious.......but don't know
if I should look. sometimes images can burn into your brain - would these
images do that?

Katie


yes they would

[Sniper]

The brain is a miraculous thing. You will more than likely be scarred by these images, but it gives you a new found sense of respect for the ambulance officers, police and fire crew who have to deal with it firsthand.

As OAB said, respect goes to all of those guys.

[Streetwise]

thats a very valid point, These guys and girls that clean up our messes on the road need given a whole lot more respect.

[Edbear]

thats a very valid point, These guys and girls that clean up our messes on the road need given a whole lot more respect.

Couldn't agree more! Don't think I could do their job! Strangely I feel sombre but detached when viewing these images. Early on after joining KB I browsed the Image Gallery - never seen such graphic images of accidents before. Yes, the human body is very soft and easliy injured and most people probably have no idea of the effect on the body of speed and sudden stops.

[Streetwise]

to true, We dont think about this when we are having a fun ride at higher speeds, But then maybe some of us do.

[DirtMad]

Disturbing ... :pinch: reminds me of the time I was innocently putting .com names into the address bar, and came upon www.shitcity.com :rofl: , I wont full the blanks.. but thankfully it looks like its been shutdown. :wavey:
You know something is disturbing, but you just HAVE to look anyway. Its human nature :moon: :weird:

[MidnightMike]

Crazy asian drivers. :pinch: < asian.

Oh, love the pics, nice and gorey :devil2:

Nah, those are some crazy pics.

( Cant stop self from looking at them blankly. ) 0_0

[Free Rider]

woah that is grapic

[Madness]

Hmm not pleasant..
Hey terbang, dude. That avatar is hypnotising the shit out of my eyes or something. My vision is going all spinny!!!:slap:

[Madness]

Oh, and the pictures. It went like this... "thats not so gory,thats not so gory,thats not so gory,HOLY FUCK!!!!" Who'd drive a micro-car then aye??

[MidnightMike]

Oh, and the pictures. It went like this... "thats not so gory,thats not so gory,thats not so gory,HOLY FUCK!!!!"

It was the open head one wasnt it :eek5:

[R6_kid]

that chicks face is all ripped open and there's nothing there... i thought they were supposed to be university students :sick:

[jahrasti]

Whats the difference between sticking a pig or blasting a stag or skinning said animals? At the end of the day the poor lady is dead yes but its a fact of life that photos might be taken. Most people would have seen other gory photos/slides in the name of education .Std lectures,presentations on diseases etc or should people be knocking on there doors for showing them.:finger:

[Madness]

It was the open head one wasnt it :eek5:

Lucky guess. :gob:

[Buster]

Im too soft to see stuff like that. Got the weakest stomach :sick:
The warning on the thread was a good idea. Cheers.

[scumdog]

:sick: Fuck that is fucken disgusting, although suprisingly not the worse thing i have seen since the introduction of the internet:gob:

Fuck it, let the pigs deal with it, keeps of them from giving out stupid speeding tickets and shit like that.


Oh, that's right, we DO deal with it.

I guess it was just another bozo that thought he could drive - but couldn't
(and thought that speed limits were naff).

[Timber020]

On a chainsaw course I did, at the start the instructor showed photos of chainsaw injuries, on average 1 out of every 30 people wont do the rest of the course or go near a saw

Smart guys.

[Kendog]

Yes unfortunately I looked and did the same as others, "that's not too bad. That's not too bad." Then "Ahh fuck, that's not nice at all". :sick: The imagae has been burnt into my brain all day and everytime I had to drive anywhere I thought of it and avoided large vehicles. So had the desired effect, slowed me down, that's for certain! (well, until tomorrow anyway).
The woman.
Oh yeah, and thank god for ambos, they are very much under paid heros!

[spudchucka]

Fresh brains slopping around in an open skull certainly does ruin your love of strawberry instant pudding and custard.

Suicide by shotgun is one of the best, it tends to lower the brains consistency to that of sloppy porridge. You have to be carefull when you move the body that it doesn't all slop out on your shoes.

[scumdog]

Fresh brains slopping around in an open skull certainly does ruin your love of strawberry instant pudding and custard.

Suicide by shotgun is one of the best, it tends to lower the brains consistency to that of sloppy porridge. You have to be carefull when you move the body that it doesn't all slop out on your shoes.

The dude that fired TWO shots from a shotgun into his head certainly saved my shoes from THAT risk, he kinda reminded me of the TV ad. for a toothbrush that mentions a 'flip-top head'!!

Gotta have a black sense of humour to see the funny' side of that kind of thing.

[SPman]

The dude that fired TWO shots from a shotgun into his head certainly saved my shoes from THAT risk, he kinda reminded me of the TV ad. for a toothbrush that mentions a 'flip-top head'!!

Gotta have a black sense of humour to see the funny' side of that kind of thing.
How the hell did he manage TWO shots! Had a mate who pulled the gun away at the last second - just took off his nose and associated bits! At least, in our family, they use rifles to top themselves - not quite as messy!

[terbang]

I recall bits that looked like 1/2 coconut shells lying all over the place that worried me..

[Sniper]

Seen a few gunshot wounds from 9mm and .38 in South Africa. Shotgun blasts seem to be the only thing that rivals a .38 special dum dum. Fuck they can make a mess

[Streetwise]

Fresh brains slopping around in an open skull certainly does ruin your love of strawberry instant pudding and custard.

Suicide by shotgun is one of the best, it tends to lower the brains consistency to that of sloppy porridge. You have to be carefull when you move the body that it doesn't all slop out on your shoes.

Now thats nice lol. fuck slop on your shoes, ooo what a thought

[onearmedbandit]

Fresh brains slopping around in an open skull certainly does ruin your love of strawberry instant pudding and custard.

Suicide by shotgun is one of the best, it tends to lower the brains consistency to that of sloppy porridge. You have to be carefull when you move the body that it doesn't all slop out on your shoes.

How in hell do you guys deal with that? I mean I've seen plenty of pics of dead bodies (thanks rotten.com and ogrish.com) but combine that with the smell, the effects of actually having to deal with it, man I'd lose my lunch every fucking time. I have heard that some paramedics award style points to people ejected from vehicles, sounds horrible but it allows themselves to distance thenmselves from the reality of the body actually being a real person, someones daughter/son/brother/sister/mother/father. Do you guys eventually get used to it or is it something you carry with you? If so how many people eventually collapse under the weight of all those memories?

[Krusti]

How in hell do you guys deal with that? I mean I've seen plenty of pics of dead bodies (thanks rotten.com and ogrish.com) but combine that with the smell, the effects of actually having to deal with it, man I'd lose my lunch every fucking time. I have heard that some paramedics award style points to people ejected from vehicles, sounds horrible but it allows themselves to distance thenmselves from the reality of the body actually being a real person, someones daughter/son/brother/sister/mother/father. Do you guys eventually get used to it or is it something you carry with you? If so how many people eventually collapse under the weight of all those memories?

From personal experiance and observations of others it is not till about 1-2 years after leaving the job that it really hits. Normally triggered by something seemingly meaningless.

During time in job the mind has its own coping methods. To outsiders people in Emergency Services may seem calous, uncaring even joking about injuries etc but these are stored deep in our sub concious only to resurface later in life.

Just my observation, experiance.

[onearmedbandit]

Thanks Krusti. Do you guys get offered counselling etc? Or are you mostly forgotten about. Like the undercover cop who had to 'partake' in drug taking who ends up a mess?

[RT527]

Yes we do see terrible things.
My time in the fire service has been split between a west auckland brigade in which we mainly went to false alarms/house and factory fires with the odd fatal usually involving burnt victimsand slow speed crashes with minimal injuries, to the brigade im in now... Ngatea,.
In this brigade my first fatal i went too is still vivid in my memory, however with an excellent crew and the support of the senior constable who was first on the scene, i coped.
since then fatals are something you never ever get used to but its the coping with the trauma thats most important.
To answer your question on assistance , we do have a very good bunch of people who are trained in realising if someone is suffering from critical incident stress and they then deal with it, they cant force you to seek help but they can be instrumental in setting you in the right direction.
Down here the police fire and ambulance know each other and each others familys and we work together for the same outcome and thats the wellbeing of the victims/patients and also the offenders (who sometimes you just want to smack them over the head with something solid).Thanks for the support on this thread guys and girls.
would like to add that ive seen worse than whats in those pics but the outcome is still the same , someones sister/cousin/daughter/granddaughter ...so on and so on isnt here right now ........and was it worth going just that little bit quicker?

[Streetwise]

Well i think you guys need a medal for the work you all do, Cant thank you enough. I know i couldnt do it.

[Skyryder]

Seen enough dead bodies. I just don't look. You made some good points Sniper.

Skyryder.

[Skyryder]

On a chainsaw course I did, at the start the instructor showed photos of chainsaw injuries, on average 1 out of every 30 people wont do the rest of the course or go near a saw

Smart guys.


Years ago I did a First aid course run by St Johns. On the last night they showed photos of injuries. Now I'm not that squeemsih but the photo of a baby that fell into a hot bath raised my hackles somewhat. My name was called out to get my certificate but before doing so I related the story of how I nearly fell into a pool of boiling water and that if I had known that to get my certificate I was to be subjected to to a slide show of burns, scalds and broken bones I would not have bothered to finish it. I left my certificate on the table and left.

Skyryder

[onearmedbandit]

Seeing as these are some of the things you may have to face in real life, dealing with the imagery now rather than in the heat of the moment would be considered beneficary to most people would it not?

Pointless to have the skills and know-how but unable to get past the injuries you're trying to treat.

[Quasievil]

Oh How cool, I turned your green bling to red bling.:Punk:

[spudchucka]

How in hell do you guys deal with that? I mean I've seen plenty of pics of dead bodies (thanks rotten.com and ogrish.com) but combine that with the smell, the effects of actually having to deal with it, man I'd lose my lunch every fucking time. I have heard that some paramedics award style points to people ejected from vehicles, sounds horrible but it allows themselves to distance thenmselves from the reality of the body actually being a real person, someones daughter/son/brother/sister/mother/father. Do you guys eventually get used to it or is it something you carry with you? If so how many people eventually collapse under the weight of all those memories?
Nothing really prepares you for it, when it happens you either cope with it or you don't. The only ones that really break me up are kiddies, especially if they are all smashed to pieces, you just want to be able to put them all back together again and give them a hug. (That'll probably make a few people puke)

Black humour exists in all emergency services all around the world. Its a great coping mechanism. Especially over quite a few beers.

Mostly it never stays with me too long, except the kids, I have issues with dead kids. A few times when I've come home after dealing with something like that I just sit and watch my daughter doing whatever she is doing, it helps for some reason.

The worst part of what we have to do isn't always at the scene its in the mortuary, stripping the dead, cleaning them and preparing them for the pathologist. It so cold and so final, not a nice place.

[spudchucka]

Thanks Krusti. Do you guys get offered counselling etc? Or are you mostly forgotten about. Like the undercover cop who had to 'partake' in drug taking who ends up a mess?
I don't know about the other services but for the police it is mandatory that they offer counselling to staff involved in traumatic incidents. Its really just an arse covering exercise by the cops as they have been sued in the past by staff who have broken down after years of attending shit like that without any kind of support from the organisation.

Well, I guess partly its because they care about us too but mostly I think its an arse covering mission.

[Crazy Steve]

THATS...FCKED...UP...

CRA Z Y..STEVE:sick:

[Krusti]

I don't know about the other services but for the police it is mandatory that they offer counselling to staff involved in traumatic incidents. Its really just an arse covering exercise by the cops as they have been sued in the past by staff who have broken down after years of attending shit like that without any kind of support from the organisation.

Well, I guess partly its because they care about us too but mostly I think its an arse covering mission.

I found personally that yes you do cope amazingly well while in the job but it's not till some time after leaving that it can resurface and hit you like a brick!

Have seen some nasty shit over the years but to give an example...Spent a lengthy time with an undertaker preping a suicide body, was so rotten you could taste it for days after. Saw councillor etc all well and good. Many years latter while farming I had to calve a cow with a not too fresh calf.

The smell and taste bought it all back and I was a complete wreck.

I watch doco's about those WW2 vets and think you poor buggers.

Have seen some tough cops who have crashed after retiring, it sneaks up on ya.

[Limb]

not very nice...

[RT527]

The only ones that really break me up are kiddies I watch my daughter doing whatever she is doing, it helps for some reason.


Yup I kinda agree with you I too have a problem with seeing children hurt , but for some reason its my own children that affect me the most , be it a small cut or worse.
Now dont get me wrong but kids are often the best patients, Ive seen some rather burly men with cuts and abrasions who are blubbering like an 18 month old( usually 3 times over the limit), and Ive also seen some kids who are in quite a lot of pain but are co-operating with you to the fullest.
Also we dont need medals thats not why i volunteer we just need yous all to stop giving us a reason to be here in the first place.
We were 2nd arriving appliance( first NZFS rescue truck) at the gull tanker that was taken out by a car with horse float on S/hwy 2 at maramarua, all survived. we were turned out at midnight thursday night and i got home at 10 15 am friday morning we had to wait for them to drill through into the 6 compartments holding a total of 39,000 litres of petrol. once that was done we then had to wait till the crane lifted the truck from a paddock.
all and all a good outcome....luck was on the side of everyone that night.the horse had the most injurys but was eventually checked by a vet and is fine.

[spudchucka]

I found personally that yes you do cope amazingly well while in the job but it's not till some time after leaving that it can resurface and hit you like a brick!

Have seen some nasty shit over the years but to give an example...Spent a lengthy time with an undertaker preping a suicide body, was so rotten you could taste it for days after. Saw councillor etc all well and good. Many years latter while farming I had to calve a cow with a not too fresh calf.

The smell and taste bought it all back and I was a complete wreck.

I watch doco's about those WW2 vets and think you poor buggers.

Have seen some tough cops who have crashed after retiring, it sneaks up on ya.
Its a real shame when that happens. I guess we just can't predict how trauma will effect us long term. I often think of war vets as well, coping with dead bodies is one thing but when your mates are being blown to bits all around you it must be horrific.

[SPman]

..I often think of war vets as well, coping with dead bodies is one thing but when your mates are being blown to bits all around you it must be horrific.
For many, their method of coping - go to the RSA and obliterate it with alcohol, amongst people of their own, who had an understanding of what they went through!
Didnt go down too well in the wider community though, but, then, they didnt really have a clue.

[spudchucka]

For many, their method of coping - go to the RSA and obliterate it with alcohol,
That isn't entirely unique to veterans.

[Darkmoon]

Whoah! Makes ya really think about stayin' frosty alertness-wise. Be cool peoples.

[KATWYN]

I guess it was just another bozo that thought he could drive ).


So I did look.....hubby looked first and gave his thoughts if he
reakoned I could handle it.

That driver looks like a stunned mullet - no doubt he will be stunned
for a few more years yet.....maybe till the day he dies.

[Streetwise]

when i said you deserve madals it was a figure of speech, I ment you guys and gals need to be better looked after by the powers at be,

[scumdog]

How in hell do you guys deal with that? I mean I've seen plenty of pics of dead bodies (thanks rotten.com and ogrish.com) but combine that with the smell, the effects of actually having to deal with it, man I'd lose my lunch every fucking time. I have heard that some paramedics award style points to people ejected from vehicles, sounds horrible but it allows themselves to distance thenmselves from the reality of the body actually being a real person, someones daughter/son/brother/sister/mother/father. Do you guys eventually get used to it or is it something you carry with you? If so how many people eventually collapse under the weight of all those memories?

To cope? Go to motorbike rallies, get pissed and talk all manner of shit with people I know and feel comfortable with about anything but work (as long as others let me!)
:apint:
Sometimes I come home, get pissed and rant on K.B (you may have seen one of 'those' sessions.

A good woman helps

Then sometimes I wonder if I AM coping.:crazy:

Time will tell.

[onearmedbandit]

Wow, a possible major head fuck in the future from your occupation. That is a decent old gamble.

[RT527]

when i said you deserve madals it was a figure of speech, I ment you guys and gals need to be better looked after by the powers at be,

Yup I new what you meant , i wasnt offended its just some people think thats what volunteers do the job for....if they think theres any glory in it then good luck to them.

And yep i agree that we need looking after, after that tanker roll over i didnt work friday as i drive for a living and didnt want to risk anyone elses life so in not working i lost a days pay( only been in my job just over a month, so no hols or sick days).having said that it was my choice to get on the truck, as they say hindsight is 20/20 vision.
mind you we were halfway to the job b4 we found out what we were dealing with .
Thanks Streetwise and all other KB`ers For your support in this thread to Police/fire/ambos.:niceone:

[scumdog]

Yep, thumbs up to those that showed a bit of understanding and support.:niceone:

All the KBers I have personally met fit the above type of person, glad to have met them.

BTW: Sure, we dish out tickets but thats not ALL we do!!:oi-grr:

[mstriumph]

.....................
During time in job the mind has its own coping methods. To outsiders people in Emergency Services may seem calous, uncaring even joking about injuries etc ...........

have noticed on several occassions that "black humour" seems to be a method of choice in blotting out the horrible present ...........

interesting - wonder why that is so? it's as though SOMETHING non-pc HAS to be said to break the tension of the moment ?

[Krusti]

have noticed on several occassions that "black humour" seems to be a method of choice in blotting out the horrible present ...........

interesting - wonder why that is so? it's as though SOMETHING non-pc HAS to be said to break the tension of the moment ?

I think you're pretty right there, by turning something really horrible into something border line funny helps the mind cope. Trouble is that it is rather an in house thing and if overheard by outsiders can seem pretty uncaring.

Also training has a large part to play. You turn up to a scene and no matter how bad it is you revert back to your training, step1, step2, step3 etc. It is not till some time later that you have time to reflect on the full scope of what you experianced.

[spudchucka]

have noticed on several occassions that "black humour" seems to be a method of choice in blotting out the horrible present ...........

interesting - wonder why that is so? it's as though SOMETHING non-pc HAS to be said to break the tension of the moment ?
Can't really explain it but it exists in all emergency services world wide. I don't know about the military but I'd be willing to guess that they have their own similar form of black humour too.

[Finn]

Can't really explain it but it exists in all emergency services world wide. I don't know about the military but I'd be willing to guess that they have their own similar form of black humour too.

Black humour is rife in the military. Humans all deal with horrific death in differant ways, humour is one of them. The militray is especially challenging when it's your finger pulling the trigger.

[Lou Girardin]

Seeing it on a nice safe moniter is not quite like being there and smelling it
Two teens immolated were the worst I've seen. It's amazing how burnt people look like roast pork.

[spudchucka]

About two years ago I had to carry out the mortuary procedure on three bodies from the one smash. The smash happened near Hunterville so was miles away from emergency services.

One of the cars caught fire with three people in it. One person was pulled free, the other two were burnt to a crisp.

What I received was two lumps of charred meat, no more than about one metre long each. Neither was initially recognisable as human in any way, (no heads, legs or arms were visible). Eventually I was able to find a row of teeth connected to a partial jaw bone imbedded in one lump. The other lump had a part of a spine visible amongst the BBQ'd meat. Both had metal from the car seats imbedded in the meat taht I wasn't able to remove, (without the use of a carving knife).

The third body was from the second car involved. Initially he didn't look too bad. He had a neck brace on so he must have been alive for a while after the crash. When I got his clothes of I found he had a football size hole in his chest, no doubt caused by impacting the steering column. I couldn't help wondering if the Ambos would have bothered with the neck brace if they had seen the gaping hole in the dudes chest.

[scumdog]

. Both had metal from the car seats imbedded in the meat taht I wasn't able to remove, (without the use of a carving knife).
.

Had the same, needed to cut the seat-mount bolts off with bolt-cutters and take the whole black mass out of the car, seat and all to take to the mortuary. (and at least with the seat frame as a guide I knew where to look for the head bit)

[Ixion]

Well, I have a pretty strong stomach, and don't get emotional about dead people, but I reckon that would be more than I'd want to have to deal with.

Not sure if it would make it harder or easier dealing with a dead body that was no longer recognisably human.

Either way props to you guys that have to.

(Never realised until Mr Spudchucka mentioned it, somewhere on this site, that police had to do the laying out of body thing at the mortuary. Always thought it would be hospital or mortuary staff. Doesn't really seem quite to be a police responsibility . )

[Sniper]

Can't really explain it but it exists in all emergency services world wide. I don't know about the military but I'd be willing to guess that they have their own similar form of black humour too.

Some choose to be silent, others rant and rave like its the best thing since cut bread. But yea, I have seen more dead bodies as a civvie than military

[Finn]

It's amazing how burnt people look like roast pork.

But taste like chicken.

[spudchucka]

(Never realised until Mr Spudchucka mentioned it, somewhere on this site, that police had to do the laying out of body thing at the mortuary. Always thought it would be hospital or mortuary staff. Doesn't really seem quite to be a police responsibility . )
The police are involved because they firstly need to establish whether there are any suspicious circumsatances concerning the death. Also there are always items of property to be recovered from the body and returned to the relatives. Until the post mortem has been done the body is basically evidence for the coroner and needs to be properly secured.

Section 4 of the Coroners Act 1988 details the deaths that need to be reported to the coroner, basically they are:
Suicides
Cause of death unknown, (A GP will not sign a cause of death certificate)
Unatural or violent deaths
Medical misadventure deaths
Institutional deaths, (died in prison, police custody or mental institution)
Enactment requires an inquest, (some other act of parliamnet dictates that an enquiry must follow deaths in certain circumstances)

As you can see it is a SCUMIE job but somebody has to do it.

The police are the coroners agents under the act. Section 5 directs the police to report deaths to the coroner and to carry out whatever enquiries are necessary for the purpose of the act.

[Firefight]

Not that happy about seeing this sort of thing on the net(not a dig at you streetwise), but I guess in this day and age it's going to happen.

I don't think many people pay much attention to the warning, human nature being what it is, most are going to have a peek.

As for it being a deterrent for speeding/bad driving etc, I don't belive it has that effect on most people, (not in the long term anyway)

I have had 21 years in the job, and in that time seen just about every form of injury and disfigurment that I thought was possible, I have seen things happen to childern that should have scarred me for life...everything from MVA trauma, burns from house fire's, electrocution, burns from acid's, workers fatally trapped in machinery, some very imaginative suicides, the list goes on and on.

Everyone deals with it in different ways, when I started in the job many years ago "Critical Incident Stress" CIS, had not been heard of, we were just told to "Harden up " now days the services have recognised this very real condition, and have set up procedures for Identifing and dealing with CIS.
In my work place I am part of a group who specialize in CIS debrief/counsel.

Over the years many marriages of emergency service workers have fallen pray to the effects of CIS, in some case's alcoholism, drug abuse, voilence have become methods of dealing with/or side effects of the unpleasant things we have to deal with in our jobs.

For me, having a partner I can share these things with has helped me deal with the darker side of my job, that and the ability to share with co-workers with out feeling embarrassed.

We have an amazing sense of comradeship, and family between co workers with in our service and indeed with other emergency service workers from other organisations.(this may be seen on KB from time to time)

I have the utmost respect for my fellow emergency service workers, both guys and girls, be they paid staff or Volunteer's.



F/F

[scumdog]

I don't think many people pay much attention to the warning, human nature being what it is, most are going to have a peek.

As for it being a deterrent for speeding/bad driving etc, I don't belive it has that effect on most people, (not in the long term anyway)

I am part of a group who specialize in CIS debrief/counsel.

For me, having a partner I can share these things with has helped me deal with the darker side of my job, that and the ability to share with co-workers with out feeling embarrassed.F/F

Yep, as you mentioned in the first paragraph, people don't take heed - the old "it's going to happen to somebody else but not to me' syndrome - unfortunately they don't realise that SOMEBODY has to be that 'somebody'.

Debriefing? The only one I have had was in the bedroom when C.B. took her briefs off, one day I suppose I'll get offered some counselling but in the meantime it's alcmahol and rants on KB......
But yeah, having a partner you can 'unload your demons onto' helps heaps - your workmates understand but they too have their own 'demons'

I think I'll just stick to giving out tickets like half KB think I do (Yeah. right!)

[RT527]

I think I'll just stick to giving out tickets like half KB think I do (Yeah. right!)

theres always the Pepper spray and batons to take your mind off tickets......:bash: :sweatdrop

Also Thanks Firefight you said what i wanted to in a paragraph.....

Man we had to make up 32 lenghts of 90 ml feeder the other night...damn that hose layer, why dont it come with a electric winder :apumpin:

Were you on that night ...heard there was a couple of 2nd alarms going off?

[mstriumph]

Not that happy about seeing this sort of thing on the net(not a dig at you streetwise), but I guess in this day and age it's going to happen.

.............
F/F

is there anyone else here who didn't actually look at the clip but are finding this thread
reactions to the clip] fascinating?

irrespective of whether it should be posted or no,
it has sparked a [mostly] very worthwhile debate, doncha think?

... and brought it home to all of us how much we owe the emergency services guys & gals ....... can't be a bad thing :grouphug:

[Streetwise]

yes i did think about not putting it up, But it has become a good sorce of conversation, Im happy i did now, But im glad there i put up a strong warning before people looked at the pictures, I could imagine that i would of been thrown on the hot coles if i had not,