Safe, responsible 'ooligan behaviour

[jrandom]

Just in case any of you thought WT and I were bullshitting when we claimed that the FXR wheelied well, I headed outside (to a private carpark area, of course!) with a couple of colleagues and a digital camera at lunch today.

Now, all you go-fast posers on 250cc fours, let's see some from you eh?

:Punk:

[Motoracer]

GO JR :banana: GO JR :banana: GO JR :banana:

Thats the balance point alright! How far/long do you keep it up for?

[Jackrat]

:Oi: You wasn't out at Waiuku yesterday was ya'?
Oh yeah nice mono. :niceone:

[jrandom]

Thats the balance point alright! How far/long do you keep it up for?

Unfortunately there's only about 100m of space round the side of our building there, so it was a matter of pop it up, hold it for 30m or so for the photo and try not to run into the back of a Mercedes before I landed... :shutup:

I have a long way to go before I can claim Wheelie God status.

[Motoracer]

If you don't have a stoppie pic here by this weekend, I'll add one with the help of my mate's FXR.

[jrandom]

:Oi: You wasn't out at Waiuku yesterday was ya'?

I tole ya. I don't wheelie on the road... not enough poke to get away in a hurry once it's up.



Oh yeah nice mono. :niceone:

Why ta. *proud* First time I've got a picture. Just had to share...

[Motoracer]

Unfortunately there's only about 100m of space round the side of our building there, so it was a matter of pop it up, hold it for 30m or so for the photo and try not to run into the back of a Mercedes before I landed... :shutup:

I have a long way to go before I can claim Wheelie God status.

You can wheelie it for 30m? Respect! :not: I'll try it on the FXR after I get heaps more practice on my GSXR. Don't want to bin my mate's bike by trying too hard too soon.

[jrandom]

You can wheelie it for 30m? Respect! :not:

Not every time perfect though!

By all means post a stoppie pic. We need to get more 'spect going for the lowly FXR and I've never bothered to practice stoppies on mine.

[Antallica]

*Bows to JR*

Dude that's impressive.... wish I had the balls to try that. Maybe it'd be easier after she's all tuned up eh ;)

My mate does stoppies all the time on his, but I'd be more confortable with a second disc myself.

Respect :D

[Motoracer]

My mate does stoppies all the time on his, but I'd be more confortable with a second disc myself.

Respect :D

No need for a second disc. The brakes are good enough, turst me. Maybe not a highspeed one (haven't tried) but low to medium speed stoppie is really good on it.

[Two Smoker]

For a nice rolling stoppie i recommend about 70-90kmh now you guys are tempting me to practice more......... and get foto's of me doing it :( (i know a good large carpark) and i know that is just asking for me to bin it :weep:

But ill have fun trying hehehe :niceone:

[Motoracer]

Do you do Rolling stoppies TS? Now we really have to get together for a ride sometime :D

With this much interest, soon we'll be on to 12s with the FXR and RG 150s :msn-wink:

[Zed]

I tole ya. I don't wheelie on the road... not enough poke to get away in a hurry once it's up.




Why ta. *proud* First time I've got a picture. Just had to share...
Cmon JR, there's a guy standing behind the bike holding you up man!- I zoomed in and can just see his hand by the pillion seat...good try you cunning fella! :lol: :sly: :lol: :sly: :lol:

[jrandom]

Cmon JR, there's a guy standing behind the bike holding you up man!

Oh dear, looks like I'm gonna have to turn up to some KB rides and perform now :whistle:

[Coldkiwi]

nice work J! how do you describe teh clutch/throttle action for a newbie wannabe?

[Ms Piggy]

In the immortal words of Barry Heslop (Father of Muriel Heslop, from Murierls Wedding) "You've really impressed me, you can't type but you've really impressed me." :yes:

[jrandom]

nice work J! how do you describe teh clutch/throttle action for a newbie wannabe?

Hmmm.

If anyone's interested in FXR-specific pointers, you have to clutch it up from a rolling start (under 10kph) with the engine spinning over 10k rpm or so. I think. I do it by listening, I don't have time to watch the dials! Don't feed the clutch out progressively, you have pull the clutch all the way in and snap it out or the bike won't lift. If you hit the sweet spot with revs/clutch timing it'll pop up to the balance point, and you can keep it there on the throttle in first gear.

It's funny, there are lots of articles on the net all saying the same things about how to wheelie big grunty sprotbikes but none for the little guy who wants to play...

[Big Dog]

I would have thought them a peice of p%$$ to stoppie a fxr, they should be light as, so it should be really easy getting the weight transfer going on. But what do I know I don't stunt anymore as I can't afford the repairbills if I get it wrong :thud:

Congrats on getting it up though, I find wheelies harder to control.

I guess now that you can get it up you can cancel your internet sourced viagra huh? :shake: :laugh:

[wkid_one]

GO JR :banana: GO JR :banana: GO JR :banana:

Thats the balance point alright! How far/long do you keep it up for?Doesn't look like it too me - about 1 foot short - but impressive none the less. Looks like it is on its way down

[DEATH_INC.]

Just in case any of you thought WT and I were bullshitting when we claimed that the FXR wheelied well, I headed outside (to a private carpark area, of course!) with a couple of colleagues and a digital camera at lunch today.

Now, all you go-fast posers on 250cc fours, let's see some from you eh?

:Punk:

Good work :2thumbsup
Now let's get her out where there's some room and see if you can hook second and keep her up,then you'll be away :yes:

[Motoracer]

Doesn't look like it too me - about 1 foot short - but impressive none the less. Looks like it is on its way down

Nope, given the fact that I have wheelied it and the fact that the bike is soooo light in the front and the extra weight of our mate JR (aham..) put at the back(ish), I'd say thats about the balance point.

[Wenier]

i no me 250 4 wont wheelie but i can do some mean ride along burnouts :)

[jrandom]

Now let's get her out where there's some room and see if you can hook second and keep her up,then you'll be away :yes:

Yup. Gotta be done. I'm gonna nail the technique in the next few months or die trying. Figuratively speaking, anyway. :o

[jrandom]

Doesn't look like it too me - about 1 foot short - but impressive none the less. Looks like it is on its way down

Can't remember which run that pic was of, TBH. I may have been coming down at that point. I suspect MR is right about the balance point, me being a fat bastard etc. Any further up than where I was in that pic and the bike rolls over backwards quite quickly.

At one point today while I was experimenting my feet slipped backwards off the pegs and I flopped back down rather unceremoniously with my belly against the tank and my feet dragging on the ground... if the bike had been 50kg heavier I probably would have had an embarrassing and expensive moment there. Fortunately that was NOT immortalised on digital camera :2thumbsup

[Two Smoker]

i no me 250 4 wont wheelie but i can do some mean ride along burnouts :)Trust me it will, even my work bike (the CT110) does wheelies...... i just need to find a nice quiet place to practice them hehehe, its just your technique that needs the work :niceone:

You doing those wheelies JR, makes an FXR cool (i cant believe i actually said that :gob: )

Well MR yep i can do rolling ones, but i havnt done them in a few weeks so i need some practice :wacko: but hopefully i will get them back in order :niceone:

[jrandom]

i no me 250 4 wont wheelie

nonsense dude, a mate of mine who now rides a 7R used to ride a ZXR250 and claims that it wheelied quite happily. I've ridden a couple of them myself and popped some little mini-monos, a bit of violent clutching and I'm sure it'd come up good.

Maybe we should have an Auckland 'club 250' get together with one of the forum Stunt Gods where we all get some tips and have a go...

[Wenier]

No it really doesnt the clutch jus shits itself as ya have to give it about 15k revs to even jus slightly jump it up and thats like an inch off the ground its a 4cylinder so the torque aint there for low rev wheelies otherwise id be doin em plus the bike is quite a heavy bitch for a 250!

[Urban Terrorist]

Trust me it will, even my work bike (the CT110) does wheelies...... i just need to find a nice quiet place to practice them hehehe, its just your technique that needs the work


I can get the T-Rex up pretty well with a 2-3 inch bump, or with my feet on the ground from a standstill.
The RG 50 needs more of a bump or some brutality to get the front up though. Anyone in the Tauranga area with a digicam that can be bribed ?

[Zed]

...At one point today while I was experimenting my feet slipped backwards off the pegs and I flopped back down rather unceremoniously with my belly against the tank and my feet dragging on the ground... if the bike had been 50kg heavier I probably would have had an embarrassing and expensive moment there. Fortunately that was NOT immortalised on digital camera :2thumbsup
:laugh: howl!!

[FROSTY]

maybee we need to have a wheelie comp out at pukie on friday

[DEATH_INC.]

Can't make puke....and the back straight isn't long enough anyway :whistle: ......

My mate in aussie usta wheelie his ZZR 250,bit outta control,he usta sit at the lights,rev limiter it and dump the clutch from a standstill :eek5: .

[Big Dog]

No it really doesnt the clutch jus shits itself as ya have to give it about 15k revs to even jus slightly jump it up and thats like an inch off the ground its a 4cylinder so the torque aint there for low rev wheelies otherwise id be doin em plus the bike is quite a heavy bitch for a 250!
Try leaning back a bit / pulling on the bars, My ole Gpx used to pull its own wheelies as you crossed the 10k mark unless you were flat accross the tank. Or you could go real crazy and step up onto your pillion pegs until you get it up!

In theory any thing can be wheelied, its just how hard you try. I hate them myself to many 100Kmph plus near bins.

As stated earlier in the thread to me the skill is not in getting it up it is in keeping it up without needing to visit a panel shop.

[SPman]

... to me the skill is not in getting it up it is in keeping it up without needing to visit a panel shop.
:confused2 :eek5: :rolleyes: :innocent:

[wkid_one]

:confused2 :eek5: :rolleyes: :innocent:
Yes SP - it was tooo easy

[Two Smoker]

Well today while i was delivering mail, i couldnt help but practice wheelies (on the extremely quiet roads, roads where i have been delvering too for months and only ever seen a handful of cars) i was getting it a good 2-3 feet off the ground but still need to do some more practice to find the balance point..... will get some foto's when profecient at them on the CT hehehe

[Big Dog]

:confused2 :eek5: :rolleyes: :innocent:
Show me a man who can get it up 2 feet and I will show you a happy woman, show me a man who can't keep it up over 2 mins and I will show you a dissatisfied woman :killingme :yeah:

[MadDuck]

now now BD thats a tad cynical I say :buggerd:

If someone wants to show me how I will give it a go on the VTR. Damn if not I will find a desserted carpark and give it a whirl...just have to make sure no :Police: hanging around

[wkid_one]

Is a carpark technically LTSA zoned tho?? Would they not need a complaint from the company who owned the car park or the security agency that managed it?

[Two Smoker]

Is a carpark technically LTSA zoned tho?? Would they not need a complaint from the company who owned the car park or the security agency that managed it?
I believe it is not due to the fact it is on private property, the only thing that can be done is you can be removed from the property....... Another reason why you find a deserted carpark...... :niceone:

[MadDuck]

LTSA bah humbug. Carpark of private property is outside their jurisdiction (oh and putside OSH). Up here I think I would get away with it as long as I inform the neighbours. A six pack goes a long way to cooling the natives ;)

[spudchucka]

Is a carpark technically LTSA zoned tho?? Would they not need a complaint from the company who owned the car park or the security agency that managed it?
A carpark is still technically a road under the Land Transport Act. I haven't read this thread completly so I might have missed the context of what is being said but just thought I'd mention this.

[FROSTY]

Well today while i was delivering mail, i couldnt help but practice wheelies (on the extremely quiet roads, roads where i have been delvering too for months and only ever seen a handful of cars) i was getting it a good 2-3 feet off the ground but still need to do some more practice to find the balance point..... will get some foto's when profecient at them on the CT hehehe
dude --talk to alex the mechanic for ya bikes--maybee he can move the saddlebags backwards
better still offer to be the test rider for the two bikes new lynn is demoing

[jrandom]

A carpark is still technically a road under the Land Transport Act. I haven't read this thread completly so I might have missed the context of what is being said but just thought I'd mention this.

The thread started when I posted a photo of myself wheelieing the FXR in a carpark (now my avatar). There's been a bit of to-and-fro-ing about the naughtiness of wheelieing on the road in past threads.

Actually, Spud, you might know... would the trafficos use the 'sustained loss of traction' law to confiscate a bike wheelieing on the road? Given that the front wheel isn't getting much traction, being three or four feet off the ground. Or does it have to be the driving wheels that lose traction? What would the likely charges be? 'Dangerous'? 'Reckless'?

Oh no, now I have that song in my head.

[Indiana_Jones]

Just in case any of you thought WT and I were bullshitting when we claimed that the FXR wheelied well

:Punk:

I'M NOT WORTHY!

TEACH OBI-WON THE WAYS OF FXR'S !!!!! :not:

-Indy

[DEATH_INC.]

The thread started when I posted a photo of myself wheelieing the FXR in a carpark (now my avatar). There's been a bit of to-and-fro-ing about the naughtiness of wheelieing on the road in past threads.

Actually, Spud, you might know... would the trafficos use the 'sustained loss of traction' law to confiscate a bike wheelieing on the road? Given that the front wheel isn't getting much traction, being three or four feet off the ground. Or does it have to be the driving wheels that lose traction? What would the likely charges be? 'Dangerous'? 'Reckless'?

Oh no, now I have that song in my head.

I can prolly take this one.....Last I knew it is dangerous driving,and yes you can get instant disqualification for 28 days then court and lose yer bike for the same......best just run :shit: (not that I'm advising this.....)
On the up side,cheers to the copper :Police: that looked the other way when I was doing a standup up the passing lane at Meremere the other day :no: ,there are still some good one's out there :niceone:

[jrandom]

Hah. This is my first post to the forum from 10 months ago:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=589

I rather like re-reading it with my current avatar showing.

[spudchucka]

The thread started when I posted a photo of myself wheelieing the FXR in a carpark (now my avatar). There's been a bit of to-and-fro-ing about the naughtiness of wheelieing on the road in past threads.

Actually, Spud, you might know... would the trafficos use the 'sustained loss of traction' law to confiscate a bike wheelieing on the road? Given that the front wheel isn't getting much traction, being three or four feet off the ground. Or does it have to be the driving wheels that lose traction? What would the likely charges be? 'Dangerous'? 'Reckless'?

Oh no, now I have that song in my head.
It would have to be the driving wheels that lose traction. Pulling wheelies would fall into the "careless driving" offence category or possibly "dangerous driving" depending on the circumstances.

Careless driving usually results in a summons being issued whereas dangerous will get you arrested.

[spudchucka]

I can prolly take this one.....Last I knew it is dangerous driving,and yes you can get instant disqualification for 28 days then court and lose yer bike for the same......best just run :shit: (not that I'm advising this.....)
On the up side,cheers to the copper :Police: that looked the other way when I was doing a standup up the passing lane at Meremere the other day :no: ,there are still some good one's out there :niceone:
Not quite right. Dangerous driving will only earn you a 28 day disqualification if it relates to speed, (50 kph + above posted speed limit).

Most cops know they have stuff all chance of catching up to bike going the other direction (if its really moving), and its hard to get a rego because they are only on the back of the bike. He probably just radioed to other units to look out for a (whatever coloured bike) heading north / south direction.

[merv]

Damn Government is about to reduce that 50 over thing to 40 over and you lose your licence.

[spudchucka]

Damn Government is about to reduce that 50 over thing to 40 over and you lose your licence.
Yep, thats a load of old wank for sure.

[Motoracer]

Well guys, as promised. Here is a stoppie pic on the mighty FXR! (In the wet!!)

[k14]

Damn, that is pretty nice. Might try a few with the CBR.

[wkid_one]

And with no helmet on you gherkin :no: :no: :no:

[DEATH_INC.]

Most cops know they have stuff all chance of catching up to bike going the other direction (if its really moving), and its hard to get a rego because they are only on the back of the bike. He probably just radioed to other units to look out for a (whatever coloured bike) heading north / south direction.

Na,don't think so,he drove past looking at the roadside,like he was pretending not to see......

[Motoracer]

And with no helmet on you gherkin :no: :no: :no:

Yea, I know, I know. Sometimes I forget that its not a MTB. FXRs are still really cool though. :2thumbsup

[Racey Rider]

Why two hands on the bars??? :whistle:

Where's the wave? :Pokey:

[Zed]

Why two hands on the bars??? :whistle:

Where's the wave? :Pokey:


O please don't encourage him!

[DEATH_INC.]

And with no helmet on you gherkin :no: :no: :no:
Have to agree with wkid on this one,silly boy.....AND in a H***a shirt too :no:
Nice stoppie though :niceone:

[merv]

Yeah nice Honda shirt, and at least if you blew it your helmet wouldn't get scratched.

[jrandom]

Well guys, as promised. Here is a stoppie pic on the mighty FXR! (In the wet!!)

Woohoo! Rock on! YEAH! I gotta keep the honour up by doing some for the camera myself now. We'll have all the newbies buying FXRs instead of the 250 4s at this rate 'coz we da kind of G the little homies wanna be like...

Bad boy to not wear a helmet though. Bad Motoracer! Really. I knocked myself out falling off the back of a 4x4 a few weeks back. I can report that concussion and a couple of hours' worth of retrograde amnesia is not much fun, although it did result in some hilarious video footage on the way to the A&E. Also the doctors will forbid you to ride for three weeks. I'm never getting on a bike without a helmet, ever.

[Indiana_Jones]

Well guys, as promised. Here is a stoppie pic on the mighty FXR! (In the wet!!)

:not:

I'm not worthy to own an FXR150

-Indy

[Motoracer]

Cheers guys! Racey, if your kidding ha ha. If your serious, I'll try one in the dry. It was hard enough to get it up in the wet with the standard plastic tires.

I will definetly wear a helmet next time. :niceone:

P.S. My mate is still selling the t-shirts, PM me if want to buy one (or more). http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=2660

[Racey Rider]

Racey, if your kidding ha ha. If your serious, I'll try one in the dry.

Well if you want to think I'm serious,,,, who I'm I to stop you. :rolleyes:
Yes I'll come and see you in the hospital.

It's just that, you have that stoppie wave avatar, which is a bit hard to see if it is you!!!
I'll I'm saying is...... :whistle:

[Motoracer]

Well if you want to think I'm serious,,,, who I'm I to stop you. :rolleyes:
Yes I'll come and see you in the hospital.

It's just that, you have that stoppie wave avatar, which is a bit hard to see if it is you!!!
I'll I'm saying is...... :whistle:


LOL. In the words of Mr WhiteTrash, "safe as houses", if you are carefull enough. Then again, people get injured/killed inside their houses anyway so what do I know...

[SPman]

You're all being Bad boys, so stop it at once, or we'll have to send you to Bondage Bunny's house! :confused2

[Joni]

You're all being Bad boys, so stop it at once, or we'll have to send you to Bondage Bunny's house! :confused2

LOL - and thats the worst place to be alone.....

[Indiana_Jones]

Any tips for the start off wheelies on the Fixxer?
I've kinda got better at them :D

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

Wheelies are cool :D

-Indy

[The_Dover]

Indy, however, is not.

[Joni]

Indy, however, is not.especially when he drags a thread from 2004 back to life, its a mystery I tell you :spudwhat:

[Indiana_Jones]

I love guys too :)

-Indy

[NotaGoth]

Indy baby lets make like Tom and Cruise......


-kit

[jeremysprite]

indy have you done a stoppie on your's yet? post a pic.
I used to wheelie, but i think I broke my bike doing that...

[thehollowmen]

i no me 250 4 wont wheelie but i can do some mean ride along burnouts :)
Huh?
I wheelied a GN 250.
by accident, the riding it out of the bikeshop car park.

They're about as gutless as it gets.

[Indiana_Jones]

indy have you done a stoppie on your's yet? post a pic.
I used to wheelie, but i think I broke my bike doing that...

I can do not so big stoppies at the moment, not like motoracer in this thread lol.

As for wheelies, you're right, taking it to 10,000RPM and dumping the clutch etc is kinda gonna fuck my ride up in the end I think lol

-Indy

[bobsmith]

As for wheelies, you're right, taking it to 10,000RPM and dumping the clutch etc is kinda gonna fuck my ride up in the end I think lol

-Indy

Nonsense, FXR is made for wheelies.... well mine was anyway... Should have seen me the first day I got my fxr... (first time riding peoper bikes) threw a wheelie off every single damned lights and scared the fuck out of me... It always wheelied of its own accord when I didn't want it to and it threw me off the back once and I believe that's all from less than 7000rpm from standing start... I haven't had that from my cbr250 yet.... It's much more behaved.....