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R6_kid
27th March 2006, 21:02
Just before the usuals start bitching and thinking im gonna 'quit', no im not. I've just been thinking a lot about getting 100% from biking.
Now as most of you know, since getting my ZXR on the road early last year i've become a bit of a nutter on the road, which i commonly refer to as being a 'twat'. Anyway... i've got the R6, and after trying dovers K6 thou i know that the R6 will last me for a long time yet, the thing for me though is that im losing the buzz from being 'fast' on the road or track.
Now, i love biking for many reasons, was the buzz, but on reflection it seems that its more the people, or rather the crowd that i've got to know really well that has made the experience good most of the time. Travelling at mental speeds to a common destination down a common path sharing a brilliant experience.
But like i said, the fast thing is losing its sweet taste, wheelies are looking good at the moment but are starting to sour a little too. So what im wandering is what else is there on the road. I know there are different bikes, and that changes the ride greatly (adventure bikes say), and there is taking pillions (which i really enjoy too).
So my question for all of you is, what can i do, other than selling up the R6 (or just buying a different bike all together) can i do to get a new buzz? Or what is it about the way you ride and the things you do on your bike that you love so much?
Stopper Dan
27th March 2006, 21:06
I don't understand? Lose the buzz, its not true, it cant happen, please no.. IT WONT HAPPEN TO ME, will it ?:no:
RantyDave
27th March 2006, 21:06
So my question for all of you is, what can i do?
Race? (i.e. on a track)
Dave
Krusti
27th March 2006, 21:14
Ride with a cattle prodder under ya butt...:rofl: seriously you may have to head for the track.:niceone:
R6_kid
27th March 2006, 21:16
was just thinking that, get a 1L v-twin to tickle my balls :2thumbsup
texmo
27th March 2006, 21:21
Sell the r6 buy two zxr400's and when you crash one it wont matter.
Velox
27th March 2006, 21:22
Wait it out I reckon.
R6_kid
27th March 2006, 21:24
Wait it out I reckon.
as in 'tis just phase?
Velox
27th March 2006, 21:25
as in 'tis just phase?
Yah man. Bet ya it won't last.
terbang
27th March 2006, 21:31
Its just a mid bike crisis, it will pass.:cool:
Dafe
27th March 2006, 21:35
You haven't found .......... The Zen Moments!!!!
You're not riding fast enough and smooth enough yet! Otherwise, you would know what your looking for! Pure moments where everything comes together in perfection! Thats the feeling that makes it all worthwhile! Thats when you know, you do it for a reason, a reason that ain't worth describing to common everyday cagers, something that you consider yourself lucky to know of!
A crisp mixture of utter madness blended perfectly with precision mental riding.
R6_kid
27th March 2006, 21:38
You haven't found .......... The Zen Moments!!!!
You're not riding fast enough and smooth enough yet! Otherwise, you would know what your looking for! Pure moments where everything comes together in perfection! Thats the feeling that makes it all worthwhile!
hmmm that is true. least about the coming together bit :mellow:
tex just said my bike handles like arse. And i did know the suspension needs a rebuild. Will definately change when it's had a service and a tinker i know that. Maybe i shoulda shut my mouth and had a cry instead :laugh:
Dafe
27th March 2006, 21:39
have a read of the following book if you can find it.
Title: Total Control - High Performance Street Riding Techniques
Author: Lee Parks.
It will help alot!
Toast
27th March 2006, 21:40
I've stopped going so nuts on the road, like I did on my first big bike. Only really fang it on certain bits of road which I deem relatively safe, usually super tight stuff or bends with perfect vision.
That's more to do with safety though...as for the buzz of picking a bike up on the throttle through a corner and exiting at full tap...can't get enough of that. Need to get out on the track more...
texmo
27th March 2006, 21:41
Get a scooter toast I do that around town.
Dafe
27th March 2006, 21:42
I've stopped going so nuts on the road, like I did on my first big bike. Only really fang it on certain bits of road which I deem relatively safe, usually super tight stuff or bends with perfect vision.
That's more to do with safety though...as for the buzz of picking a bike up on the throttle through a corner and exiting at full tap...can't get enough of that. Need to get out on the track more...
I hear ya! Unfortunately, I haven't found any roads in Welly ideal for this style of riding. However, The Targa Rally hillclimb section in Dannevirke is farken wicked! and the loops! Oh those sweet mother f%#$#@ loops! Wohooooooooo!!!!!!
Uncle B! Tell em all about it! Go on.... Go on..... Pleaseeeeeee!
APPLE
27th March 2006, 21:42
wouldn't have a clue,wot yah on about man?riding is about PASSION'.......you sound like you need councilling man.
Ixion
27th March 2006, 21:43
Get a two smoker.Get a naked bike . Go riding in the rain. Ride at night. Ride on gravel roads . Get a slower bike (serious - theres more of a challenge in getting the best out of a slow bike. Powerful bikes make it too easy).
I reckon if you can't get *something* out out of pushing a naked twosmoker hard down a gravel road in the dark and rain, then there's no hope for you.
Just ask yourself, what is it about riding OTHER than speed that you enjoy. and focus on maximising that (or those) on each ride. Appreciate each ride for its own sake, not just as an opportunity to go faster.
40 years, it's just as much fun now as it was when I started.
If "buzz" is all the biking is to anyone, then maybe they're not really into riding long term. Not everyone is. some folk come, dabble a bit and move on. Others stay.
Toast
27th March 2006, 21:46
Yeah I've thought about getting a scooter Tex, just for the wheelies really. Maybe a mini-motard or something though, bit more fun in the wet around town.
jahrasti
27th March 2006, 21:49
What about getting a nekkid bike Buell,S4R,Brutale etc. You can hammer the twisties as fast as you think you can go, have grunt for wheelies and shit and you dont need to be going hard out to have a ball.
Dodgyiti
27th March 2006, 21:54
Get a two smoker.Get a naked bike . Go riding in the rain. Ride at night. Ride on gravel roads . Get a slower bike (serious - theres more of a challenge in getting the best out of a slow bike. Powerful bikes make it too easy).
I agree, you have been spoilt with a super machine that does everything well.
I find it really satisfying to wring every ounce out of a less powerful machine when the everyday bike gets a little lame, or you are pushing your luck with speed etc.
How about a trail bike so you can practice stunts without the risk of damage to the main ride, then you can take it off road for more fun, or super motard it :niceone:
Toast
27th March 2006, 22:08
I hear ya! Unfortunately, I haven't found any roads in Welly ideal for this style of riding. However, The Targa Rally hillclimb section in Dannevirke is farken wicked! and the loops! Oh those sweet mother f%#$#@ loops! Wohooooooooo!!!!!!
Uncle B! Tell em all about it! Go on.... Go on..... Pleaseeeeeee!
Yeah Uncle B, tell us about the bloody loops, Dafe's not at his most eloquent right now.
Man I've often thought about how cool it would be to recreate the Targa on bikes....watched it a few times on tv, great event.
N4CR
27th March 2006, 22:20
I WENT THROUGH THIS PERIOD AS WELL, BUT TRUST ME THE BIKE CAN USUALLY GO FASTER. PROBABLY NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO BE DOING THOUGH.
JUST WAIT A WHILE IT WILL PASS, OR TRY RIDING LESS AS WELL. I SORTA LET MY BIKE SIT FOR A FEW DAYS APART FROM COMMUTING AND SPENT WEEKENDS OFF IT AND IT HELPED WELL. I DON'T HAVE MINE FOR ANOTHER 2 WEEKS AND IT WILL MAKE ME START GETTING CAGEY ETC, SO TOO LONG IS BAD I GUESS.
ZEN STYLES IS AWESOMENESS! JUST WAIT TILL YOU GET THERE :D
GOOD LUCK. P.S. ARE YOU JOKING ABOUT THE ZXR250 IN YOUR SIG YOU HOMo?
bugjuice
27th March 2006, 22:55
work on your wheelies an stoppies
work on taking corners harder and faster
work on keepin up with the likes of MR, LB, WT, 2S
work on staying on the road
work on getting your knee down on the track
work on your bike - maintenance and performance etc
work on your suspension, tyres and brakes
work on your mental state while riding..
plenty ya homo. get over it and get on with it..
riding is an option, not a requirement. If you're getting a bit bored of it, give it a break for a few weeks and see how you feel. If you miss it, you'll never be without it. If you can go without withdrawals, then you can take it or leave it as you want..
R6_kid
27th March 2006, 23:12
cheers for the tips guys, its probably coz im poor and havent been out for a decent fang, that and the fact that the bike isnt in the best shape to be doing so at the moment.
two things i gotta have a laugh at - ixion, thats some funny shit mate (naked two smoker, on the gravel, in the rain at night... that would be a buzz for sure)
and also sixpak's take on the whole thing "I know, its cos you havnt fallen off in a few weeks...HAHAHAHAHA...fuck I crack me up"
sAsLEX
27th March 2006, 23:27
and also sixpak's take on the whole thing "I know, its cos you havnt fallen off in a few weeks...HAHAHAHAHA...fuck I crack me up"
surely a decent paced split home up to where I saw you the other day would give you enough of a buzz? I was splitting at a fair pace today and I had to slow down so I could blink a little as I was concentrating on the road and traffic so hard I relised I hadnt blinked since getting on the MW, a bugger wearing contacts!, but funny how at normal car pace everything seemed stopped must be one of those time slowing down things, cept it was the MW and they were stopped lol
ps uni sucks so does studying!
nudemetalz
28th March 2006, 07:19
Well I thought I was turning into an old man having the big ZX-10 after considering 600's etc.
And I was,...until last Sunday when I went for a ride. It went okay until my mate with a Buell wanted a race....then the hooligan (which I thought was well and truly supressed) came out. Drag raced him,...did a couple of wheelies and kneed out cornering....hmm,...:devil2:
Like the others have said it's only a phase and it it takes is the right situation to bring it all back out. The x-factor never leaves you,..just sits there waiting...
Fishy
28th March 2006, 08:11
So my question for all of you is, what can i do, other than selling up the R6 (or just buying a different bike all together) can i do to get a new buzz? Or what is it about the way you ride and the things you do on your bike that you love so much?
Try riding a Honda bro, it will make you appreciate your Yama so much more!. :niceone:
Firefight
28th March 2006, 08:26
try drug's
F/F
:doh: :doh: did I say that ?
No Gareth, what you need is a dirt bike:ride: , am thinking about going back to one myself, when are you at work again, come and see me and we can have a chat about it.
F/F
Paul in NZ
28th March 2006, 08:51
The Zen thing is important but....
It's got very little to do with numbers. Going fast on a modern japanese hypersport bike has little impact as they are just so damn good. The 'edge' is now a long long way out there and getting close to it means you are not only risking your license and life but a lot of other peoples as well.
A less technically advanced bike can sometimes make sense once you can put numbers and models etc behind you.
The ancient Moto Guzzi is a truely classic motorcycle. It was built but people that understand what I've just described and it is NOT user friendly at all. You have to be prepared to sacrifice skin, money and time to the spanner gods because most dealers won't touch it with a 10 ft pole. You have to learn not only the lore and how to work on it but how to ride it and more importantly, learn to ride around it's obvious defects. Every ride is a challenge and frankly I still stuff up more corners than I get right but every now and then, you get everything right and once in a blue moon, you get a sequence of things right. Then it flies and it takes your soul along with it, the weight of ancient heroes ride at your shoulders in a glourious wail of gears and fire. Diving in just a bit too hot, trail the linked brakes while the too heavy rear drive starts the rear wheel skipping, ease off the front and foot, crash through the straight cut box while the engine screams like a Spitfire diving on Berlin as you clip the apex and wrench open the throttle that feels connected to the engine by a steel bar as the big carbs gulp a lungful and the whole plot leaps forward like a startled hippo spearing towards the next bend as you wonder if you have enough brakes left to take it. What the hell, at least you will die like a man! You realise you can feel every stone on the road and every pulse of the engine and try to remember when you last felt so damn alive. It's a drug like no other because a little piece of you joins the ranks of the immortals every time the needle strays into the orange zone.
Give up the appliance and buy a bike for heros mate. You will regret it a hundred times and yet be paid back a thousandfold.
The_Dover
28th March 2006, 08:57
Trade the arse sex on a thou.
A suzuki of course.
skelstar
28th March 2006, 09:11
I dont know why but I get a helll of a buzz out of riding long distance and riding through the twisty stuff along the way...good opportunity to laud it over all the cagers in thier Homo-dores and Fal-cants who bought thier big cars to drive fast, but are stuck on SH1 behind some nana.
loosebruce
28th March 2006, 09:22
i've become a bit of a nutter on the road, which i commonly refer to as being a 'twat'. Anyway... i've got the R6, and after trying dovers K6 thou i know that the R6 will last me for a long time yet, the thing for me though is that im losing the buzz from being 'fast' on the road or track.
But like i said, the fast thing is losing its sweet taste, wheelies are looking good at the moment but are starting to sour a little too. ?
Aight Gareth dont take this the wrong way, but in a certain group of KB you maybe "fast" as you call it, in another well your not, sorry, just the way it is, what can happen at some points in time you ride with a group long enough stay out in front of the said group and dont really learn a heck of a lot more, the biggest thing that can help you is too ride with some fast or faster guys, some one you can push just that little bit more to stay with, this is one of the best ways to learn i believe, the if he can i can (don't always work though) can help a lot in confidence.
Getting out on the track more is another that can help lots too.
With your wheelies, well you're still learning and if you're not where you thought you'd be in regards to them dont give up, really it could take close to over a year before you start getting okay (not good) just okay at them, just got to keep at it.
And your bike in poor condition is no excuse, remember the TL?
Fishy
28th March 2006, 09:48
Aight Gareth dont take this the wrong way, but in a certain group of KB you maybe "fast" as you call it, in another well your not, sorry, just the way it is, what can happen at some points in time you ride with a group long enough stay out in front of the said group and dont really learn a heck of a lot more, the biggest thing that can help you is too ride with some fast or faster guys, some one you can push just that little bit more to stay with, this is one of the best ways to learn i believe, the if he can i can (don't always work though) can help a lot in confidence.
Getting out on the track more is another that can help lots too.
With your wheelies, well you're still learning and if you're not where you thought you'd be in regards to them dont give up, really it could take close to over a year before you start getting okay (not good) just okay at them, just got to keep at it.
And your bike in poor condition is no excuse, remember the TL?
Good advice LB, I agree with that!.
So Gareth you need to find a person who is a bit faster than you to learn from etc... I hear MarkAuckland is available for tuition. :rofl:
Fishy
28th March 2006, 09:52
Trade the arse sex on a thou.
A suzuki of course.
Hey bro, I just made you famous. Found that clip of you pulling that mean mono!.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=557890#post557890
slob
28th March 2006, 10:08
Lose the fairing and go naked - makes 100kmph feel like 200kmph!
Lose the modern machine and go retro e.g. '80s or '70s musclebikes like CB750K or Z1000 or GSX1000. The handling alone should keep you on your toes!
N4CR
28th March 2006, 10:14
AGREED PAUL, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE GOING FAST, IT CAN HAPPEN ON AN FXR150 WITHOUT RIDING FAST ON IT ETC.
AFTER READING THAT LITTLE DESCRIPTION OF A GUZZI IT MAKES ME WANT TO RIDE ONE, SOUNDS LIKE A REAL BIKE THAT ACTUALLY TAKES SKILL TO RIDE. I SHOULD TRY EVERYTHING WHEN IM OUT TEST RIDING IN A FEW MONTHS, CHEERs.
kiwifruit
28th March 2006, 10:19
get a cheap dirt bike
Motu
28th March 2006, 10:26
I lost the buzz when I sold my Yamaha 650,sometimes the buzz was a bit tirersome.
Squeak the Rat
28th March 2006, 10:41
Sounds like your stretching your "buzz" envelope.
The faster speeds that a bike is designed to go is proportional to the extra speed you need to go on it to get the "fast" buzz.
PaulNZ, FF etc have a good point. Grab a naked from a dealer (bike that is) and go for a test-ride. At the very least it might be a fun exercise in looking at things from a different perspective on a bike that you don't own!
Otherwise chuck some nitrous in a gixxer1000. That should keep you entertained for while :chase:
Good luck!
Krusti
28th March 2006, 10:45
Must admit there is very little that is more fun than riding a bike full throttle, never baking off. Get a small bike and ride it till the wheels fall off.
Monsterbishi
28th March 2006, 10:48
To me it just sounds like you've grown accustomed to the power of the bike, as has already been mentioned, get to a track, then you'll learn the meaning of the word 'buzz'
Two Smoker
28th March 2006, 11:48
1: Ride on the track.... Preferably a 400 because you can learn so much from them...
2: Ride with faster people (But only homo's like Bruce ride fast on the road, then come get their arse whooped on the track...hehehe)
3: Buy a dirt bike...
4: Have aims at what you want to accomplish with wheelies (not just bunnyhops and the odd second gear hook like me) ie have the skills of Death Inc. (if thats possible???)
5: Lowside at Puke at 200kmh, fuck your arm, and drive a car or be bored shitless at home and realise how much you miss riding... But seriously, give riding a miss for a week and you will be itching to ride again...
bugjuice
28th March 2006, 12:04
come round mine.. we'll bolt a turbo to it.. :yeah:
good to see ya back TS ;)
R6_kid
28th March 2006, 12:19
So Gareth you need to find a person who is a bit faster than you to learn from etc... I hear MarkAuckland is available for tuition. :rofl:
next time i see you im punching you and stealing your missus!
FF - i dont work at Air NZ anymore, but i'm keen as for a thrash on dirty at some stage.
Again, cheers to everyone for your tips and advice. And Bruce, i know at aint 'fast' compared to most people :pinch: what i meant was riding fast.
Had a bit of a fang today around town on the way home and its sorta coming back, i think because i've been broke i've been econimising too much and riding like more of a nanna than usual, shit even 140kmh put a smile on my face!
R6_kid
28th March 2006, 12:21
The ancient Moto Guzzi is a truely classic motorcycle. It was built but people that understand what I've just described and it is NOT user friendly at all. You have to be prepared to sacrifice skin, money and time to the spanner gods because most dealers won't touch it with a 10 ft pole. You have to learn not only the lore and how to work on it but how to ride it and more importantly, learn to ride around it's obvious defects. Every ride is a challenge and frankly I still stuff up more corners than I get right but every now and then, you get everything right and once in a blue moon, you get a sequence of things right. Then it flies and it takes your soul along with it, the weight of ancient heroes ride at your shoulders in a glourious wail of gears and fire. Diving in just a bit too hot, trail the linked brakes while the too heavy rear drive starts the rear wheel skipping, ease off the front and foot, crash through the straight cut box while the engine screams like a Spitfire diving on Berlin as you clip the apex and wrench open the throttle that feels connected to the engine by a steel bar as the big carbs gulp a lungful and the whole plot leaps forward like a startled hippo spearing towards the next bend as you wonder if you have enough brakes left to take it. What the hell, at least you will die like a man! You realise you can feel every stone on the road and every pulse of the engine and try to remember when you last felt so damn alive. It's a drug like no other because a little piece of you joins the ranks of the immortals every time the needle strays into the orange zone.
I want his drugs...
Fishy
28th March 2006, 12:32
next time i see you im punching you and stealing your missus!
:Pokey: hahaha good on ya boy.
Ixion
28th March 2006, 12:45
Lose the fairing and go naked - makes 100kmph feel like 200kmph!
Lose the modern machine and go retro e.g. '80s or '70s musclebikes like CB750K or Z1000 or GSX1000. The handling alone should keep you on your toes!
This is very true. Nothing quite matches the excitment of taking something like an XS750 or a GT750 through a corner. See, y'get triple the excitement of someone on a modern bike, cos first you get the excitement of the front end going round the corner.(Or, not going round the corner, without a good deal of argument ) Then you have to figure out where the back end of the bike has gone to (often as not it's wandered over to the opposite verge and is picking flowers. Or else it's scrambling along several bike lengths behind, lunging up and down like a 17 year old chick in heat), and getting THAT round the corner. Then while you're doing that the front will have decided that its not going to waste time hanging around waiting for the back end to catch up, so it's gone off in a totally different direction. So you have the excitement of finding it and getting it back on line.
Modern bikes are too easy to ride. I know what Mr Paul in NZ is talking about, with older machines every corner is a battle of wills between you and the bike. Sometimes you win, sometimes the bike wins. On the rare occasions when you win a whole series , it's a real buzz.
The BMW has a similar sort of thing - sometimes it just seems to be in a (relatively) good humour, and drops into what I call its schnell-panzer mode. When it seems to rumble relentlessly and irresistably along , not so much taking a line through corners, as just refusing to acknowledge their existence. And I just hang on , pray, and accept that for the moment I'm just baggage. Now that's a buzz alright when it finally runs out and the brute settles back into normal teutonic muttering and obstinacy. And I take stock and decide that I am still alive.
avrflr
28th March 2006, 12:56
I have the solution. Sell your bike/s. Nothing will make you desparate to go for a ride like not having a bike. Every time you hear one screaming past it will be like it is mocking you. You will start to feel physical symptoms of withdrawl. (If you can last a month like this you will have done better than me.)
Then go out and tick up a new bike. Nothing beats that warm rush you get when you've gotten clean then relapsed.
texmo
28th March 2006, 13:01
Fix your px150 gareth and try keep up on a kiwibiker newbie ride.
N4CR
28th March 2006, 13:03
Fix your px150 gareth and try keep up on a kiwibiker newbie ride.
DON'T YOU MEAN PASS PEOPLE AND HAVE FUN ON A NEWBIe RIDE ;) :motu:
texmo
28th March 2006, 13:18
DON'T YOU MEAN PASS PEOPLE AND HAVE FUN ON A NEWBIe RIDE ;) :motu:
Lets not remind spankme of how he got passed by a scooter please.
mr me
28th March 2006, 18:41
DOnt be a soft cock just get out and enjoy each ride for what it is mate.:finger:
Toast
28th March 2006, 18:52
, the biggest thing that can help you is too ride with some fast or faster guys, some one you can push just that little bit more to stay with, this is one of the best ways to learn i believe, the if he can i can (don't always work though) can help a lot in confidence.
Getting out on the track more is another that can help lots too.?
Or you can ride alone. That way, you focus more on yourself and your bike, and getting the most out of it. Riding doesn't (shouldn't) involve contacting you opponents or mates, it's just about you and your bike getting down a piece of road or track at a certain rate (not counting real racing here, where you've got to not just be faster than someone, but pass them), so learning more about your bike and how to ride it needn't involve others...but then you'll feel like some company after a while...and that's what KB rides are for :niceone:
Track is the shiz for sure, and I'd be there every week if I had the time and $$
Jackrat
28th March 2006, 18:59
as in 'tis just phase?
A phase??
Bugger off,getting old ain't a phase Bro'
Get used to it,it ain't going away:rofl:
justsomeguy
28th March 2006, 19:00
Lets not remind spankme of how he got passed by a scooter please.
Wanna bet $10,000 that you can't pass his GB on your scooter again on a fast ride or on a track - NOT - a newbie ride.:niceone:
justsomeguy
28th March 2006, 19:02
This is very true. Nothing quite matches the excitment of taking something like an XS750 or a GT750 through a corner. See, y'get triple the excitement of someone on a modern bike, cos first you get the excitement of the front end going round the corner.(Or, not going round the corner, without a good deal of argument ) Then you have to figure out where the back end of the bike has gone to (often as not it's wandered over to the opposite verge and is picking flowers. Or else it's scrambling along several bike lengths behind, lunging up and down like a 17 year old chick in heat), and getting THAT round the corner. Then while you're doing that the front will have decided that its not going to waste time hanging around waiting for the back end to catch up, so it's gone off in a totally different direction. So you have the excitement of finding it and getting it back on line.
Modern bikes are too easy to ride. I know what Mr Paul in NZ is talking about, with older machines every corner is a battle of wills between you and the bike. Sometimes you win, sometimes the bike wins. On the rare occasions when you win a whole series , it's a real buzz.
The BMW has a similar sort of thing - sometimes it just seems to be in a (relatively) good humour, and drops into what I call its schnell-panzer mode. When it seems to rumble relentlessly and irresistably along , not so much taking a line through corners, as just refusing to acknowledge their existence. And I just hang on , pray, and accept that for the moment I'm just baggage. Now that's a buzz alright when it finally runs out and the brute settles back into normal teutonic muttering and obstinacy. And I take stock and decide that I am still alive.
Saw it with my own eyes following Frosty on Boing.
beyond
28th March 2006, 19:12
Some really good replies.
Hitting the Zen factor is awesome. Not often achieved but when you are "in that place" it makes months of mundane motorcycling all worthwhile. When bike and mind become one and every corner is taken at the optimum level.
The biggest key is this: you can go fast in a car as well as on a bike, but what in the main, separates a bike from a car, aside from the million dollar exotics? Corners of course. Bikes were built for corners. Anyone can go fast in a straight line and yes it's fun but nothing like motoring through a favourite patch of twisties and the tighter the better. Looking at the world from 45 degrees puts a whole new perspective on life.
Naked bikes are a help here. Yeah man!! I know I'm doing 120kmh, 150kmh, 200kmh ... oh boy do you know it.
That is why I just love my 14. I get a full gym workout riding that sucker through the twisties. A quarter tonne of heavy metal at my bidding and man when you get your corners right on that thing, it really does bring a smile to your dial. Stuff up and you know it too. :(
Most modern bikes are well within there limits when ridden hard but a naked 1400, you are riding the edge. That 1.1g of cornering force, before things start to shift around, comes up real quick on a heavy bike and you have to really 'ride' it. Very very satisfying. Oh, I'm not a 1400 salesman by the way. :bleh:
Oh, can someone redesign the roads to give me just a teeny bit more ground clearance please??
Motoracer
28th March 2006, 21:09
Sure I've had my days where it doesn't feel as good as it can do... but... I don't know... Its always the one thing that can always make me happy. So I don't think I'll ever give it up really...
There's just so much to do with bikes and so much to learn... I must have only uncovered a small portion of what you can get out of motorcycles... It's one of the few things in life that'll never bore me I reckon.
Like you though, I reckon the people have made it as good as it is. Without the social comunity of bike riders, it wouldn't be that much fun at all...
You don't need to go fast or pull wheelies... You just need to make sure that you are having fun doing what ever that it is, you are doing on a bike. If you aren't having fun at all, then you need to start thinking...
justsomeguy
28th March 2006, 21:10
Looking at the world from 45 degrees puts a whole new perspective on life.
Oh yeah.
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Gareth what's happened?? You don't sound like the chap I've ridden with. I think Loosebruce makes sense (no really). Find some more challenging riders to ride with that should make you concentrate a bit more and make your rides more interesting.
Qkkid
28th March 2006, 23:18
Trade the arse sex on a thou.
A suzuki of course.
Yeraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get a real bike dude something that will challenge ya like a gixxer 1000 :laugh: :no: :Punk: NOW THATS ONE BIKE YOU WONT TAME it will tame you :ride: :shit:
R6_kid
29th March 2006, 11:20
Yeraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get a real bike dude something that will challenge ya like a gixxer 1000 :laugh: :no: :Punk: NOW THATS ONE BIKE YOU WONT TAME it will tame you :ride: :shit:
lol yeh, probably into the bushes again for me if i got a 1L bike. Just priced heaps of stuff up on ebay so it looks like i can get the bike in good nic (for havign a thrash) and also found some incredibly cheap 2nd hand parts i can use for being a twat (stunting and the like)...
Pixie
29th March 2006, 11:37
buy a motard
Kwaka-Kid
30th March 2006, 22:05
Now as most of you know, since getting my ZXR on the road early last year i've become a bit of a nutter on the road, which i commonly refer to as being a 'twat'. Anyway... i've got the R6, and after trying dovers K6 thou i know that the R6 will last me for a long time yet, the thing for me though is that im losing the buzz from being 'fast' on the road or track.
So my question for all of you is, what can i do
Stop talking the talk and start walking the walk :)
Bring yeself down to the racetrack and start racing, buy a 2nd set of fairings and boom you got urself a Supersport 600. Seriously, Racing is the buzz :)
R6_kid
31st March 2006, 20:26
thats my goal, probably not on the R6 but i do want to get out and race. Found a cheap tank on ebay and im saving up for some race fairings anyway. Doubt i'd do supersport, but clubmans would be a hoot.
Kwaka-Kid
31st March 2006, 22:24
maybe maybe not.
For me, clubmans is too, i dont mean to say uncompetetive... but thats kinda how it is, in the way that its GSXR1000's vs CBR250's etc etc, all sorts, not enough of the general same sort/weight/power of bike in the one class so not enough people to compare yourself against.
Id Rather come last in supersport 600 on your bike, then win Clubmans. But i guess its all levels of racing and how competetive you are in nature. Grrrr cant wait till tomorrow! Frosty i wanna come catch you!
Bonez
1st April 2006, 03:41
Get a two smoker.Get a naked bike . Go riding in the rain. Ride at night. Ride on gravel roads . Get a slower bike (serious - theres more of a challenge in getting the best out of a slow bike. Powerful bikes make it too easy).
I reckon if you can't get *something* out out of pushing a naked twosmoker hard down a gravel road in the dark and rain, then there's no hope for you.
Just ask yourself, what is it about riding OTHER than speed that you enjoy. and focus on maximising that (or those) on each ride. Appreciate each ride for its own sake, not just as an opportunity to go faster.
40 years, it's just as much fun now as it was when I started.
If "buzz" is all the biking is to anyone, then maybe they're not really into riding long term. Not everyone is. some folk come, dabble a bit and move on. Others stay.
Excellent post young man. :rolleyes: Even riding on 20-30 plus year old 4 strokes is a buzz. It's surprising how well they go when kept in reasonable nick and regulary maintained. Running costs aren't too bad, tyres seem to be cheaper and you can customise the things till the cows come home if you so desire. Some here have seen, and been surprised, how well a '76 Cb550 and '87 GB400 goes. And we are obvoiusly not talking about top speed here. Both mostly stock standard, I might add, apart from the rear shocks and tires. The beauty too is you can pick them up for next to nothing. The GB cost me 1400 quid and the CB cost around the same amount 20 years ago. Keep to the back roads, gravel, seal or whatever. Stop were or whenever you like. Chat to the cockies shifting cattle, folk collecting fire wood, admire the scenery and just feel good about being on two wheels.
It's amazing the amount of folk that pop over and have a natter when parked up because their uncle/aunt/brother/sister/partners/mates etc owned one, or usually something of the similar "vintage", back in the day. Old bikes are a lot like fine wine. They have to be savoured, in otherwords ridden, to be appreciated. Don't let them just sit, go bitter and turn into vinager.
It's not just so-called "exotic" stuff that has this thing refered to as "character".
DEATH_INC.
2nd April 2006, 10:25
Hmmmm I know what ya mean, loosing it's buzz. I'm going through the same sorta thing lately....maybe it's too much riding? If ya do it all the time maybe it looses it's impact? Who knows, but I'm sure it'll pass....:cool:
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