Dog chipping.

[SPman]

"No dogs - not even farm dogs - will be exempt from new legislation required that they should be microchipped"
27 March 2006

A blow for farmers, whose dogs will not be exempt from new legislation which makes micro-chipping of the nation's canines compulsory.

Cabinet had been considering amending the law which comes into effect in three months time, to apply only to domestic dogs.

Prime Minister Helen Clark says after careful consideration, it was decided there should be one law for all dogs.

She says a phase-in period for farm dogs was considered, but ultimately rejected by Cabinet.


Does this seem like a load of shit to you - it sure does to me.
So - some fuckhead townies prize killer dog attacks a kid or three, so the gov., in typical knee jerk reaction, insists on ALL dogs being microchipped.!
FFS! Half the dogs involved in attacks wont be chipped anyway and thousands of working dogs will have to be chipped, at great expense to farmers, for WHAT?
Shit - Im glad Im going bush!
Another peice of ill thought, ill conceived, bullshit regulation and control being imposed on us from a Government that wont sit down and actually THINK - or regain touch with reality.
And National would be NO better, ...........

[R6_kid]

what exactly is the benefit of microchipping over current registration?

[Mental Trousers]

It can help when wild dogs are shot for killing sheep etc. Track down the owner and make them pay the sheep owner compensation. Also, people who dump dogs can be tracked down and fined etc.

Having said that, I don't support it. Mind you, I don't oppose it either. I'm on the fence.

[Krusti]

Can my dogs be rechipped with a Power Commander?

[Ixion]

And those who would allow their dogs to run wild and worry beasts, or abandon animals , would they be likely to go along like good little lads and pay to have said chips implanted in the first place ?

It will be just another example of idiot law makers forgetting that the people who cause trouble by not obeying the law are not going to obey the law intended to deal with their lawlessness. Just another burden and expense for the law abiding (who don't cause the problem in the first place) whilst the dregs (who do cause the problems) will ignore it.

[Ixion]

Can my dogs be rechipped with a Power Commander?

No, but you might be able to overclock them.

[Mental Trousers]

Who said they let their dogs worry sheep. Most owners don't know.

[Ixion]

Assuming that sheep means in the country, I doubt there'd be many country folk would be unaware if one of their dogs was a sheep worrier. And I would be pretty certain that the dog would very quickly be shot.

Only advantage would be if a farmer shoots some townies dog for worrying, and can trace the owner to claim compensation for the beasts. But, if the owners are responsible enough to get the dog chipped, the same result could simply be achieved by a collar with a name tag.

[Motu]

Even cats! As part of the SPCA program of neutering all the cats and kittens that find homes,they are being chipped as well.I'm in two minds - I am very anti interferance by any authority upon my lifestyle (I'm a real old hippy,please don't call this government hippy or socialist,in no way do they follow the peace and love doctrine man) but if we don't control stray cat and dog populations we aren't going to have any native wild life left to call our own.We gotta stop these fucka's breeding,they can't do it on their own.We gotta know who's been done,and who owns what - or we kill everything with 4 legs lower than shoulder height that doesn't eat grass.We will only know what we've lost when it's gone.

[WINJA]

hopefully this might reduce the price of chipping , im worried about my yorky being knicked and if it doe happen at least we can positively id her , as for farmers i visit about 5 farms a day and i havent seen a dog with a registration tag on yet,ive asked a few farmers and the just say 'fuck the council'

[sAsLEX]

Even cats! As part of the SPCA program of neutering all the cats and kittens that find homes,they are being chipped as well.I'm in two minds - I am very anti interferance by any authority upon my lifestyle (I'm a real old hippy,please don't call this government hippy or socialist,in no way do they follow the peace and love doctrine man) but if we don't control stray cat and dog populations we aren't going to have any native wild life left to call our own.We gotta stop these fucka's breeding,they can't do it on their own.We gotta know who's been done,and who owns what - or we kill everything with 4 legs lower than shoulder height that doesn't eat grass.We will only know what we've lost when it's gone.

20 bucks a cat down in the Naki where we go 4x4, much fun shooting the things off the deck of the batch with a .223 things go flying!

[Mental Trousers]

Assuming that sheep means in the country, I doubt there'd be many country folk would be unaware if one of their dogs was a sheep worrier. And I would be pretty certain that the dog would very quickly be shot.

Only advantage would be if a farmer shoots some townies dog for worrying, and can trace the owner to claim compensation for the beasts. But, if the owners are responsible enough to get the dog chipped, the same result could simply be achieved by a collar with a name tag.

Guess you've never lived in a town that has a population below about 5,000. Usually plenty of dogs around that are allowed to wander and plenty of farm land outside of town.

[Marmoot]

what exactly is the benefit of microchipping over current registration?

so if your lost dog is found and scanned they will immediately know it's your dog.

I chipped my dog....only $70 for the rest of his life, which can get to 17+ years.
Small price, I'd say.

Although, if he DOES get lost then there is 50% chance of people who found him will keep him. He is a nice friendly and trained golden retriever.

[ajturbo]

Who said they let their dogs worry sheep. Most owners don't know.

gota add something here...
the other day i was taking my 3 boys for a run... up the road we went and as we went, i thought it would be a good idea to pop next door and have a run through the forest... so opened the gate and in they ran ...FAST... right up to a mob of sheep.. there were about 10 in group all just eating breakfast of lovely new grass .... they heard my 3 running up to them and they just stopped and staired!!!

my boys just stopped and looked back...WTF i thought .. where did they come from???? my boys looked at them and then looked at me... they were about 1m apart!!......... woops i thought ... i slowly backed out the gate and said in a really excited voice
"hey guys whats over HERE???".. safe on the OTHER side of the fence ... welll fuck me dead, they all came running.... the sheep just carried on eating.........
:sweatdrop :sweatdrop :sweatdrop :sweatdrop
but what would have happened if they had done a runner???:slap:

[ajturbo]

fuck that...

i resent rego'ing my dogs in the first place....

i for one will NOT be microchipping ANY of my dogs:bash: :angry2:

woooo i'll be breaking a law...:clap: .. no i call it civil disobedeance (sp?)

i train my guys NOT to wonder out the gate without me... and i'm a blond......and SO ARE MY DOGS....

SO why carn't all other dog owners???:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

[ajturbo]

hopefully this might reduce the price of chipping , im worried about my yorky being knicked and if it doe happen at least we can positively id her , as for farmers i visit about 5 farms a day and i havent seen a dog with a registration tag on yet,ive asked a few farmers and the just say 'fuck the council'

it will cost the farmer here over $1000. just to chip them here...

my guys don't even wear collars...only when they race!!! and that is so i can attach them to the main tug line...

[Krusti]

hopefully this might reduce the price of chipping , im worried about my yorky being knicked and if it doe happen at least we can positively id her , as for farmers i visit about 5 farms a day and i havent seen a dog with a registration tag on yet,ive asked a few farmers and the just say 'fuck the council'

Bugger worrying about dogs worrying sheep it's WINJA worrying 5 farmers a day that has me cocerned:lol:

[What?]

hopefully this might reduce the price of chipping...
You on the piss, Winja?
As soon as it is compulsory, the price will go UP. Something to do with a captive market...

The whole exercise is utterly pointless, except to appease the dog-haters in society. The simple fact is, there will be un-chipped dogs, same as there are currently unregistered dogs, and the problem dogs will largley remain in that category. All that will be achieved is vets will get richer for shag-all, and councils will likewise make a buck out of it.
And let us not forget why we have dog registration at all - it has nothing to do with traceablity of rogue dogs, it was all about elimination of hydatits, which has now been achieved.

[SixPackBack]

I can see where this is heading...babies chipped at birth, for national security only of course!

[Swoop]

The odd fact is that if Winja's furrball (dog?) is chipped, it will double its body weight...:yeah: :yeah:

This is another PC bullshit law that people WILL AVOID.
Laws only work IF it has the co-operation of the populace.:whistle:

[ajturbo]

Bugger worrying about dogs worrying sheep it's WINJA worrying 5 farmers a day that has me cocerned:lol:

:laugh: :laugh: :killingme :killingme :killingme
you think i should be worried also.... they look like sheep???

[Hitcher]

Dog chipping is dumb law. It is exactly the same as saying that fitting registration plates to cars reduces road accidents.

This law was a total knee-jerk overreaction by politicians to a spate of dog attacks on kids. The dogs most likely to attack people (those owned by lower socio-economic folk) won't be registered anyway.

And I understand that there are plans to have microchips inserted into ALL animals. Eric the goldfish watch out!

[Jantar]

Twice I have found dogs wandering on my property. (Not worrying stock, but obviously far from home). Each time I have been able to look at their collar, find out the owner and give them a ring. As there is no equipment in Central Otago capable of reading a microchip, and at this stage the closest is Lower Hutt, do I now have to ship to dog to the north Island to identify the owner?

OK, I know I'm being a bit rediculous, but the nearest center to us even planning to get the gear to read the microchip will be Dunedin. So what's wrong with just sticking to the old idea of a tag on the collar? The dogs that aren't wearing tags now are the same ones that won't be microchipped in the future.

[Finn]

And they say it's a dog's life.

First off, we kidnap them from their mummies, brothers & sisters at a very young age. We then bring them into our families with little kiddies that choke them in head locks and poke their eyes. We feed them the same disgusting food every single day. Being pack animals, we show our understanding by locking them outside by themselves all day. As soon as they discover their sex organs and start humping our kids, it's off with their nuts. The "family" decides to go on a holiday so you put the dog in a boarding kennel for a week or two where they get beaten up and pack raped. To top this off, after years of abuse and neglect, one sign of sickness and it's off to the vet for some blue stuff.

And you guys complain about microchipping.

[Motu]

Don't want dog chipping - but are behind limiting learner drivers to slow cars,want every rider to wear full leathers boots and full face helmets...duh.

Dog chipping will be the same as gun laws....no difference to law abiding citizens....no difference to non law abiding citizens.

[Paul in NZ]

My dog already leaves chips all over the lawn. At $70 each I'm gunna be rich! Oh.... Not that sorta chip? Dang!

Anywho.

I'll get Bo done when the heavy hand of the law drops on us but it's just stupid! She has been registered from day 1, been to the vet every year for her meds etc and is well behaved in public (not very well behaved at home if she thinks she is guarding the place) and I would support laws penalising those that keep un registered or badly behaved animals.

The media beat up on this was a little over the top IMHO and I seriously wonder what was behind it all! I know some people are scared of dogs and fair enough but some people are scared of open spaces for goodness sakes!

I for one am sick to death of going broke trying to be a responsible member of society while the arseholes hog all the resources and contribute NOTHING!

Cheers

[Winston001]

Is there a definition of a "farm dog"? If there was an exemption, how would it work?

[Krusti]

Is there a definition of a "farm dog"? If there was an exemption, how would it work?

Would go under the same requirements for dog registration I suppose.

What I wouldn't be surprised about though is that we chip all these dogs and then like so many other new ideas we have no one who can read them or not enough devices to read them to make it work.

[ManDownUnder]

The next logical step would be to fit a scanner to the cows and sheep, so any dogs going near them are logged.

I mean - what'[s a cocky going to do when they find a carcass in the paddock? How do you trace the dog - just because it has a chip in it. Or even if you hear/see the dog in question - it's not like the embedded chip will tell you a lot.

A .308 diameter pill up the backside is a different story however. I understand they're wonderfully effective in training dogs not to worry animals. Of course it'd give the cock the chance to take the dog and get the chip scanned too...

[cowpoos]

hopefully this might reduce the price of chipping , im worried about my yorky being knicked and if it doe happen at least we can positively id her , as for farmers i visit about 5 farms a day and i havent seen a dog with a registration tag on yet,ive asked a few farmers and the just say 'fuck the council'

yeah why the fuck would I regester my dogs....what do I get for my fee's???
so I don't...and know heaps of farmers that refuse too....and there will be alot more if this bill passes methinks...

whats the point of regerstering a farm pup or chipping it...it'll be 1.5yrs old before you will know if its gunna be any good at working...

[Blairos]

I am looking at getting my pussy chipped - depends on the cost, and whether I want her found if she leaves me :) (Yes, I am talking about a cat! LOL)

[Jantar]

...Of course it'd give the cock the chance to take the dog and get the chip scanned too...
But where could we take the dog to get it scanned? I'll be damned if I'm going to take 5 days off work and go to Lower Hutt to get a dead dog scanned.

[magicfairy]

what exactly is the benefit of microchipping over current registration?
In our case we did it so that if our expensive purebred dogs get nicked then we can prove ownership. Or if they escape or are accidentally let out of the house/section while not wearing collars, and end up in the pound, then we can be notified - and once again prove ownership.
Had them both done as puppies.
I don't think farmers should have to though.

[Hitcher]

I am looking at getting my pussy chipped - depends on the cost, and whether I want her found if she leaves me
Don't waste your money. The only useful purpose a chip would have is if said pussy was stolen and you wanted to dispute "ownership". Otherwise the cat will not be routinely scanned, either by veterinarians or the SPCA. Nobody who finds a stray cat would think to get it scanned or know where to go to get this done.

[Paul in NZ]

Don't waste your money. The only useful purpose a chip would have is if said pussy was stolen and you wanted to dispute "ownership". Otherwise the cat will not be routinely scanned, either by veterinarians or the SPCA. Nobody who finds a stray cat would think to get it scanned or know where to go to get this done.

Tried to scan our cat but it wouldn't stay put on the scanner long enough to get a decent image. I was thinking of trying the photocopier!

[The_Dover]

"
Prime Minister Helen Clark says after careful consideration, it was decided there should be one law for all dogs.


Better get the bitch up to the vets then.

Or is she exempt?

[Jackrat]

And they say it's a dog's life.

First off, we kidnap them from their mummies, brothers & sisters at a very young age. We then bring them into our families with little kiddies that choke them in head locks and poke their eyes. We feed them the same disgusting food every single day. Being pack animals, we show our understanding by locking them outside by themselves all day. As soon as they discover their sex organs and start humping our kids, it's off with their nuts. The "family" decides to go on a holiday so you put the dog in a boarding kennel for a week or two where they get beaten up and pack raped. To top this off, after years of abuse and neglect, one sign of sickness and it's off to the vet for some blue stuff.

And you guys complain about microchipping.

Faaaaark,I'm glad I'm not a dog that belongs to you mate.
Both my dogs are related,known each other all their lives,get good tucker,never get left alone,sleep at the foot of my bed"when their not on/in the thing",both have all their naughty bits,an both will die of old age if nothing else goes wrong.
An neither of them will be bloody chipped an if the wankers in Gov't get shitty about it,they won't be rego'ed anymore either.
As it is I get NOTHING for my reg'o fees.
Bastards!!!!

[jimbo600]

I hate this cunting govt. Next they'll want to microchip your cock so they can track your spawn. Aint no way I'm going to microchip my dog. Those fuckheads whos fuckwit dogs attack folk are not going to microchip their dogs FFS.

[What?]

So... Who has written to Chris Carter to tell him what a dork he is???

ccarter@ministers.govt.nz

[TwoSeven]

Well I think all domesticated animals (and farmed animals) should be chipped - I'm not sure why they just limited it to dogs only seems a bit short sited. From a business perspective it makes good economic sense - simply because replacing ear tags with RF chips makes it way easier to track animals and animal product. RFID everything I say.

Since farms are run as a business I suspect the cost is tax deductable in some way. Certainly if one is breeding and selling farm dogs it would be beneficial to be able to know whats happening to them. Also, I think it would make life a heck of a lot easier for the old vet to process data and animal records. You can get readers for palm pilots and the like.

As for cost - when I first looked into getting some animals done (they were going overseas) it cost $100 each (this is about 7 years ago) mainly because the vet had to buy the equipment (the old readers). I suspect if everyone started needing chips and all the vets tooled up, the price would drop to less that a buck a chip over time (RFID chips are very cheap in volume). I think now they will perhaps use pit tags that are implanted using a syringe - i'm not up to date with the livestock technology, i've only been following its use in the transport arena.

A passive rfid tag is pretty much just a barcode and farmers put those on livestock now, so I really dont understand what the problems is. To be honest, some of the excuses I've heards sound like its people voicing an opinion on a subject they probably know nothing about.

Just my tuppence.

[Hitcher]

Tried to scan our cat but it wouldn't stay put on the scanner long enough to get a decent image. I was thinking of trying the photocopier!
Fax it to me. I'll scan it for you...

[cowpoos]

To be honest, some of the excuses I've heards sound like its people voicing an opinion on a subject they probably know nothing about.

Just my tuppence.

you mean like the reason for chipping in the first place?

electronic tagging of livestock is going to be forced on us farmers very very soon...with massive costs involved...and the out come will be no different to
the use of barcode tags which havn't worked...the old number on a tag with a date of birth is still pretty hard to beat....and whats more....its cheap.....unlike electronic ID's and equipment....I can't see myself running around a paddock in the middle of the nite with a scanner trying to get a id on a freashly calved cow....and I'll be fuck if I hav to stick every cow in a cattle crush to get her id...so most likely we will still have numbered tags anyway...and use them like we always have...and the id tags will sit there doin f' all of anything....who makes these's laws....???? I mean come on...in comes PC and out goes comon scence!

[Winston001]

If chipping is so bad, how come the Poms and the Aussies, and a whole heap others do it already?

[Grumpy]

as for farmers i visit about 5 farms a day and i havent seen a dog with a registration tag on yet,ive asked a few farmers and the just say 'fuck the council'

So why all the ruckus? I mean those same farmers will still be saying "fuck the council" and the still won't be registering or chipping their dogs so fuck all is going to change.
I can understand where farmers are coming from and only an idiot would believe that this is going to stop dog attacks but microchipping does have it's place.

[Timber020]

If chipping is so bad, how come the Poms and the Aussies, and a whole heap others do it already?

In aussie farm dogs are exempt.

I think its a bollock law, our dogs chipped but chipping farm dogs is like having to register a farm quad although its never used on the road.

[Marmoot]

It's a conspiration, I tell you.
Zed has warned us so many times but, woe to us, we never listened!

As Cowpoos said, soon it will be barcode in your forehead, stamped with the number of the beast: 1000K6

United Earth is coming................................

[Blairos]

you mean like the reason for chipping in the first place?

electronic tagging of livestock is going to be forced on us farmers very very soon...with massive costs involved...

Once again - another revenue-generating excercise by the sounds of it, with no apparent improvement over how its done today...

Poos, where will they expect you to stick these chips? (I think I already know your answer! :rofl: )

[Lias]

I'm opposed.. I also support removing the "dangerous breeds" restrictions, because some of my favorutie breeds are banned.

I fully believe that you should be able to have killer dogs to guard your property. Then again I also believe you should be allowed to shoot trespassers. Bastard hippies in parliament :-(

[Blairos]

From the Herald this morning...

MP plans vote to exempt farm dogs from microchips

Farm dogs could escape being microchipped under plans by United Future MP Gordon Copeland to force a vote in Parliament.

The MP believes he could get the numbers to pass an amendment to an omnibus bill, expected to be introduced next week, that contains changes to the Dog Control Act.

His move could exempt farm dogs from the microchipping rules which come into force on July 1.

[Finn]

From the Herald this morning...

MP plans vote to exempt farm dogs from microchips

Farm dogs could escape being microchipped under plans by United Future MP Gordon Copeland to force a vote in Parliament.

The MP believes he could get the numbers to pass an amendment to an omnibus bill, expected to be introduced next week, that contains changes to the Dog Control Act.

His move could exempt farm dogs from the microchipping rules which come into force on July 1.

Excellent. I'll just got buy a couple of chickens and throw them in with the dog. EXEMPT.

[Swoop]

If ALL DOGS are going to be chipped (especially the dangerous ones)



When is Auntie Helen going to have her chip implanted???:angry: :rockon:

[cowpoos]

Excellent. I'll just got buy a couple of chickens and throw them in with the dog. EXEMPT.

nope.....foursome

[cowpoos]

Poos, where will they expect you to stick these chips? (I think I already know your answer! :rofl: )

I said electronic ear tags.....[think about that for a few minutes]

[cowpoos]

As Cowpoos said, soon it will be barcode in your forehead, stamped with the number of the beast: 1000K6

United Earth is coming................................

no I didn't....

[kickingzebra]

Bugger all this pissing around, lets just get to going with the mind control chips, so that we don't give a shit about working our asses off, and giving all of our money to a government cash sink/black hole.

I'm going to write to Mr Carter, methinks. Fook this, lets all move to some dodgy state on or near the equator, buy the poor local bastards out, ship them back here to piss off aunty Helenstein (distant relative of Frank...) and build racetrack roads galore! Bet we could do it for 10 to 15 percent total tax.

Leave the stupid beaurocrats, and those with beaurocratic tendancies in s small inflatable boat with a big hole in it.

I'll stick a chip in my dog, when I am allowed to stick a chip in said politician. dogs live 7 years to our 1, so the chip would be 7 times wider, 7 times higher, and 7 times more painful to insert!! (and it would be made of arsenic)

[Blairos]

I said electronic ear tags.....[think about that for a few minutes]

Oops - obviously didnt read that properly did I :doh:

[Finn]

Faaaaark,I'm glad I'm not a dog that belongs to you mate.


Take a look at my dog and tell me if he looks abused...

[cowpoos]

Take a look at my dog and tell me if he looks abused...

thats not a dog.....its a ugly goat

[kickingzebra]

I can't see any eyes, he must be blind, the poor busstid!!! He looks like a homeless bum that can't afford a razor. Got a pretty nice duvet though:whistle:

[Finn]

thats not a dog.....its a ugly goat

The girls don't think so. He's a chick magnet just like me...

[kickingzebra]

Sorry, my bad, he has one eye and a tongue! schnauser huh? Chicks really dig Dalmations too.

[terbang]

Funny aspect of human nature.
They can impose stupid rules upon me, tax my money, indoctrinate my kids at school, stop me from this, fine me for that, make me pay for that, put my photograph on my drivers licence and the majority of us just grumble.
BUT IF THEY EVEN DARE TO FUCK WITH MY MUTT IN ANY WAY IM GONNA GO TO WAR AND FUCK WITH THEM BACK IN A BIG WAY, HOW DARE THEY EVEN THINK OF IT.!

[mstriumph]

i'm opposed to ANYTHING big government does to strip away freedom with no benefit except to its's own coffers

.............where will it end?

micro-chipping today, deep-frying tomorrow?? :corn:

[cowpoos]

i'm opposed to ANYTHING big government does to strip away freedom with no benefit except to its's own coffers

.............where will it end?

micro-chipping today, deep-frying tomorrow?? :corn:

I hear you can already get deep fried dog in auckland....

[cowpoos]

The girls don't think so. He's a chick magnet just like me...

errr...your deluded...that thing looks like a dog cross dressing as a sheep with a bad hair cut...I'ld hate to think what you look like lil fella.....posat a pic of ur self?

[Finn]

errr...your deluded...that thing looks like a dog cross dressing as a sheep with a bad hair cut...I'ld hate to think what you look like lil fella.....posat a pic of ur self?

The poor fella just woke up. It was his morning do.

Here's a pic of me...

[Phurrball]

Righto,

If all dog owners were responsible, then there would be no problem...BUT (And I understand and sympathise with the ire of responsible dog owners - really I do! Let's register cats too! Ours is chipped...) microchipping has potential to make enforcement and compliance issues much more straightforward. Is this dog registered? Who does it really belong to? 'Oh, it's not your dog? you won't mind if we take it then?' blah, blah...

The farm dog exemption: Think as a lawmaker for a moment. There needs to be a definition of what a farm dog is. Simple on the face of it? Not quite...is the JAFA lifestyle blocker's dog a farm dog? See the potential for loopholes. Our statute law is littered with ill thought-out tack on sections that make the law uncertain and problematic in its application. It would be nice to avoid another one of these (although there may be case law on what a farm dog is to settle the point...who knows)

We'll never agree on where the line should be in any given law, BUT we do agree on law as a method for regulating our society...no one will ever be happy entirely, but I think chipping is a step in the right direction.

I have heard a federated farmers rep drawing the analogy between farm dogs and farm vehicles that bever go on the road. This is good up to a point - you can never entirely control any dog as it is a sentient being in its own right.

Terbang makes a valid point - we submit to our vehicles being registered to a certain extent, and a number of other things...we submit due to the bad few who ruin it for the rest of us...why should dogs be different? For the reasons above...the mechanics of exempting farm dogs have great potential to be unworkable...

/Rant

[cowpoos]

The poor fella just woke up. It was his morning do.

Here's a pic of me...

awww....ain't that cute...u and you dwag got the same hair cut....





your a fruit....a short fruit....nya nya nya nya nya...***pokie tounge***

[cowpoos]

Place holder....rant coming....

why do u need a place holder....can't you just post when ready....or you to precious for that ?

[Phurrball]

why do u need a place holder....can't you just post when ready....or you to precious for that ?


I'm in a lecture Poos. I'm actually trying to listen believe it or not. Strong opinion, but no time or ability to multitask....

Back to Equity for me now. Hooray for the UoA wireless network for the boring bits...:banana:

[Hitcher]

Mr Poos. Could you please do something about your signature so that it only fills a quarter of my screen, rather than all of it?

[Swoop]

Strong opinion, but no time or ability to multitask....

Good one. Now all the females have PROOF that men cannot multitask!:laugh:
Well done.:no:

[WINJA]

So why all the ruckus? I mean those same farmers will still be saying "fuck the council" and the still won't be registering or chipping their dogs so fuck all is going to change.
I can understand where farmers are coming from and only an idiot would believe that this is going to stop dog attacks but microchipping does have it's place.
FARMERS SHOULD BE INCLUDED , I GOT BITTEN BY A ROTTY FARM DOG , ONE GUYS PITTBULL WOULDNT LET ME OUTA THE CAR AND A LAB CHASED ME ROUND A SHED TILL I FOUND A STICK ,A LOT OF COCKYS ARE GETTING DOGS FOR SECURITY CAUSE THESE DAYS, DONT SEE HOW CHIPING WILL HELP ME BUT FARMERS SHOULDNT BE EXPEMPT

[Phurrball]

Good one. Now all the females have PROOF that men cannot multitask!:laugh:
Well done.:no:


I care not. Only one woman's perspective really matters to me. SAdly her mind is already made up in the negative on that point...:oi-grr:

[cowpoos]

Mr Poos. Could you please do something about your signature so that it only fills a quarter of my screen, rather than all of it?

increase the resultion on your moniter and put ur tool bars on auto hide....then press F11....

come back to me if that doesn't increase your veiwing area...and we can talk about it more...hav a nice day

[Velox]

Heh - I was in Parliament yesterday when they had the 'Question Time' and Q number 3 was re the dog chipping. Could hardly hear what anyone was saying cause they were all moaning and yelling apart from one fella who kept yelling "roll over Jim".

I'm going to get a couple of dogs soon but that'll be before this all comes in anyway. On that note, anyone know what the cost is for not registering your dog at the mo?

[cowpoos]

Heh - I was in Parliament yesterday when they had the 'Question Time' and Q number 3 was re the dog chipping. Could hardly hear what anyone was saying cause they were all moaning and yelling apart from one fella who kept yelling "roll over Jim".

I'm going to get a couple of dogs soon but that'll be before this all comes in anyway. On that note, anyone know what the cost is for not registering your dog at the mo?

PM deano........

[Pixie]

You on the piss, Winja?
As soon as it is compulsory, the price will go UP. Something to do with a captive market...

The whole exercise is utterly pointless, except to appease the dog-haters in society. The simple fact is, there will be un-chipped dogs, same as there are currently unregistered dogs, and the problem dogs will largley remain in that category. All that will be achieved is vets will get richer for shag-all, and councils will likewise make a buck out of it.
And let us not forget why we have dog registration at all - it has nothing to do with traceablity of rogue dogs, it was all about elimination of hydatits, which has now been achieved.
I hate hydatits too.
Much prefer the unhidden ones

[Pixie]

Tried to scan our cat but it wouldn't stay put on the scanner long enough to get a decent image. I was thinking of trying the photocopier!
You need to use a cat scanner

[Ixion]

Meh. Upgrade to *nix. It has a cat command as standard.

[750Y]

chip the politicians so we can track them back to their policies..
i'll gladly hold them down on the ground while someone gayer than myself rams it home, & make it extra large, there's a lot of red tape will need to be stored on it..

[Pixie]

chip the politicians so we can track them back to their policies..
i'll gladly hold them down on the ground while someone gayer than myself rams it home, & make it extra large, there's a lot of red tape will need to be stored on it..
A small chip of porous silicon* in the neck would be a good idea.

*porous silicon is the most powerfull explosive yet discovered.

[Lou Girardin]

I'm going to get a couple of dogs soon but that'll be before this all comes in anyway. On that note, anyone know what the cost is for not registering your dog at the mo?

The cost is zero, the cost of getting caught is a bit more.

[mstriumph]

FARMERS SHOULD BE INCLUDED ...................

some of the farmers around here would get real ugly if you tried to shove a microchip in their ear .......... mebbe kiwi farmers are more amenable to havin foreign bodies inserted in their orifaces?? :corn:

[Hitcher]

mebbe kiwi farmers are more amenable to havin foreign bodies inserted in their orifaces??
Or even in their orifices...

[Storm]

Nice to see you've still got the touch Hitcher

[mstriumph]

was deliberate, mr hitcher sir ........

..... by using the 'a' i was trying to broaden the sound to make it sound like 'faeces' - get peops thinkin
about orifices other than the ear .........

you know - a sort of farmer joke?? [although, its true, i didn't manage to work sheep into it - or cows ... just the poos..... *sigh* ]

:o oh bugger - didn't come off, did it :Oops:

......... oh well, back to the drawingboard :corn:

[Patrick]

I hate hydatits too.
Much prefer the unhidden ones

That man deserves a DB...

[tracyprier]

(cut) It will be just another example of idiot law makers forgetting that the people who cause trouble by not obeying the law are not going to obey the law intended to deal with their lawlessness. Just another burden and expense for the law abiding (who don't cause the problem in the first place) whilst the dregs (who do cause the problems) will ignore it.

Same deal as with the gun registration nonsense a couple of years back.

[cowpoos]

was deliberate, mr hitcher sir ........

..... by using the 'a' i was trying to broaden the sound to make it sound like 'faeces' - get peops thinkin
about orifices other than the ear .........

you know - a sort of farmer joke?? [although, its true, i didn't manage to work sheep into it - or cows ... just the poos..... *sigh* ]

:o oh bugger - didn't come off, did it :Oops:

......... oh well, back to the drawingboard :corn:

errrrrrr.....

[Krusti]

The cost is zero, the cost of getting caught is a bit more.

I sent them a cheque last year to reg our dogs they sent it back saying was not exact amount, I said ok and left it at that.:whistle:

[buellbabe]

I own 2 dogs and am looking at getting a 3rd next yr... I used to be against chipping on principle cos I felt it was "big-brotherish" until my friend lost her prized Rotty... she had moved to Oz and taken him with her so the dog was totally unfamiliar with ANY of the territory. He had been missing for a month before he finally got tired and hungry enuf for someone to be able to approach him and get him into a vehicle and take him to a vets. BINGO! Scanned his chip and phoned her immediately... Happy dog and happy owner.
As for so-called "dangerous dogs"... well chipping ain't gonna do nothing cos the dickhead owners don't register them anyway so its not gonna make any difference in that respect.
De-sexing would be a better option- pick up every stray, give the owner a chance to get their dog back ( after proof of rego/whatever ) but if the owner obviously doesn't give a toss and the dog is a repeat offender then DE-SEX it! Stop the buggers breeding! ... and the same could apply to cats...
May seem harsh but F**k it! I am sick of seeing skinny unloved strays roaming the streets...

[kickingzebra]

Reckon we should do the same for homeless people?!