Boo hoo!!! BIATCH!!

[SARGE]

Moussaoui Found Eligible for Death Penalty
By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 30 minutes ago
A federal jury found al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui eligible Monday to be executed, linking him directly to the horrific Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and concluding that his lies to FBI agents led to at least one death on that day.

(at LEAST…)

A defiant Moussaoui said, "You'll never get my blood, God curse you all."

(that’s ok Zach.. Lethal Injection don’t cause you to bleed..)

After months of hearings and trial testimony — punctuated by Moussaoui's occasional outbursts — he now faces a second phase of the sentencing trial to determine if he actually will be put to death.
That phase begins Thursday morning for the only person to face charges in this country in connection with the nation's worst terrorist assault, the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people as jetliners crashed into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field.
Moussaoui sat in his chair and prayed silently as the verdict was read, refusing to join his defense team in standing. His comment came after the hearing.
The jury now will hear testimony on whether the 37-year-old Frenchman, who was in jail at the time of the attacks, should be executed for his role.
Those testifying will include families of 9/11 victims who will describe the human impact of the al-Qaida mission. Court-appointed defense lawyers, whom Moussaoui has tried to reject, will summon experts to suggest he is schizophrenic after an impoverished childhood during which he faced racism in France over his Moroccan ancestry.

( OH FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!.. I bet if that don’t work, they will try saying he was on P and wasn’t responsible for his actions..)


The trial's first phase, which focused strictly on legal arguments, had seemed Moussaoui's best chance to avoid execution. The jury deciding his fate will now be weighing the emotional impact of nearly 3,000 deaths against Moussaoui's rough childhood and possible evidence of mental illness.

(Crazy Terrorist?... NAH!!!)


On the key question before the jurors in phase one, they answered yes that at least one victim died Sept. 11 as a direct result of Moussaoui's actions.
Had the jury voted against his eligibility for the death penalty, Moussaoui would have been sentenced to life in prison.
Rosemary Dillard, whose husband Eddie died in the attacks, said she felt a sense of vindication from the verdict.
"This man has no soul, has no conscience," she said of Moussaoui. "What else could we ask for but this?"
Abraham Scott, who lost his wife Janice Marie on 9/11, said he actually felt sorry for Moussaoui "But not enough to drop the possibility of him getting the death penalty.
"I describe him like a dog with rabies, one that cannot be cured. The only cure is to put him or her to death, Scott said.

(Firecracker up the ass….)


But Scott said he also blamed the government "for not acting on certain indicators that could have prevented 9/11 happening."
The jury began weighing Moussaoui's fate last Wednesday. During its deliberations, jurors asked only one question publicly, seeking a definition of "weapon of mass destruction." One of the three convictions for which Moussaoui could be executed is conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction.
The jurors were told that a plane used as a missile — the tactic employed on Sept. 11 — qualifies as a weapon of mass destruction.
Moussaoui pleaded guilty last April to conspiring with al-Qaida to hijack aircraft and other crimes. At the time, he denied being part of the 9/11 plot, saying he was being trained for a separate attack, but he changed his story when he took the stand and claimed he was to have flown a hijacked airliner into the White House that day. The defense suggested Moussaoui would say anything to derail his own defense so he could achieve martyrdom through execution.

( hey Zach.. wanna meet God?)

Moussaoui was in jail at the time of the attacks, but prosecutors argue federal agents would have been able to thwart or at least minimize the attacks if he had revealed his al-Qaida membership and his terrorist plans when he was arrested and questioned by federal agents.
The defense argued that a confession from Moussaoui would have changed nothing because the FBI and other federal agencies were inept in processing terror threats in the time before Sept. 11.
The judge said the jury was unanimous on all four aspects of each of the three counts against Moussaoui. Those counts were conspiracy to commit international terrorism, to destroy aircraft and to use weapons of mass destruction.
On each count, the jurors found the defendant was 18 or older at the time of the offense, intentionally lied to federal agents on Aug. 16-18, 2001, and did so "contemplating the life of a person would be taken or intending that lethal force would be used." Further, they determined at least one person died Sept. 11 as a direct result of the lies.
The judge asked the jurors if their verdicts were all unanimous, and all nodded affirmatively.

You gotta be kidding me.. “ I became a terrorist because some little fucktard French kids made fun of me for being a Raghead…”.


Pull the plug on this douchebag AND his Lawyers NOW!
:bash:

[RantyDave]

What did this guy actually do?

Dave

[Sniper]

Good to read that finally someone is getting their just deserts

[SimJen]

Linked to the 9/11 attacks....
Hope he dies slowly from a botched lethal injection in his winky :)

[RantyDave]

Linked to the 9/11 attacks....
I'd worked that bit out. But what did he actually do? Sarge's post briefly mentioned that he was actually in jail at the time so he clearly wasn't *doing* very much at all. As best I can tell he's being put to death for not telling the feds about his involvement as they put the bamboo shoots under his fingernails ... or whatever they do these days.

BTW, I'm not about to go all pinko on you ... getting rid of people that fly planes into buildings really should be one of the worlds' big priorities right now. I just don't know what it was he actually *did*.

Dave

[idb]

As best I can tell he's being put to death for not telling the feds about his involvement as they put the bamboo shoots under his fingernails ... or whatever they do these days.


That's it - he didn't volunteer information that he had about the plot.

[SimJen]

From google news

"Confessed September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui moved a decisive step closer to execution Monday when a US jury allowed a possible death sentence, finding that he could have prevented the attacks."

[idb]

Where's the balance!
Yesterday people on this forum were saying that the death of a kid hitting a power pole on a stolen bike was fair and proper.
Death must be WAY too lenient for this guy!!!!!

[RantyDave]

Confessed September 11 conspirator
Ah, you know your day is headed downhill when you confess to being a 9/11 conspirator. :doh:

finding that he could have prevented the attacks
Astounding! I take it summary execution for every second employee of the CIA is next on the list? No? Only the ones wearing towels on their heads then?

Speaking of summary execution I notice that the "We believe Louise Nicholas" brigade are back in cuba mall today (veering dangerously offtopic)...

Dave

[MisterD]

I just don't know what it was he actually *did*.



As I understand it the charges are basically that he witheld information from the FBI and by doing so assisted those making the attacks.

He deserves a lifetime of worrying about getting a sharpened toothbrush in his guts in the prison showers.....

[Ixion]

prosecutors argue federal agents would have been able to thwart or at least minimize the attacks if he had revealed his al-Qaida membership and his terrorist plans when he was arrested and questioned by federal agents.


Does not such infringe the Constitution ? The fifth amendment ? Not a great believer in written constitutions m'self , but if you have one I guess you ought to abide by it.



No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

[Hitcher]

Death penalties are barbaric and not worthy of any society that aspires to be a credible first-world nation.

When death-penalties are sanctioned for those directly involved in crimes causing death at least there is some rationale for these (albeit morally corrupt). But imposing a death penalty for conspiracy? For heaven's sake. That's just about legitimising a lynch mob hell-bent on a bit of revenge because the real perpetrators had the gall to die at the scene.

[Oscar]

I'd worked that bit out. But what did he actually do? Sarge's post briefly mentioned that he was actually in jail at the time so he clearly wasn't *doing* very much at all. As best I can tell he's being put to death for not telling the feds about his involvement as they put the bamboo shoots under his fingernails ... or whatever they do these days.

BTW, I'm not about to go all pinko on you ... getting rid of people that fly planes into buildings really should be one of the worlds' big priorities right now. I just don't know what it was he actually *did*.

Dave

He was part of the conspiracy to the extent that he had been trained to fly and was to lead a team that crashed a plane into the Whitehouse.

Conspiracy to commit murder carries the same penalty as the murder itself.
My only concern is that with a lethal injection he won't suffer as he departs..

[SARGE]

i guess my big problem was this :



will summon experts to suggest he is schizophrenic after an impoverished childhood during which he faced racism in France over his Moroccan ancestry.


schoolyard teasing leading to international terrorism??? give me a break:angry2:

i face anti- Americanism here every day and i have yet to blow up a schoolbus

the day is young though...

[Big Dave]

Death penalties are barbaric and not worthy of any society that aspires to be a credible first-world nation.




This guy was supposed to fly a plane load of innocents into the White House.
Unless he showed genuine remorse - I would inject/throw the switch/shoot the cunt quite happily myself.

[Ixion]

Death penalties are barbaric and not worthy of any society that aspires to be a credible first-world nation.

..

Effective, but. And cheap. And quick. Rather like a bit of barbaric m'self.

[SARGE]

This guy was supposed to fly a plane load of innocents into the White House.
Unless he showed genuine remorse - I would inject/throw the switch/shoot the cunt quite happily myself.


nah.. i say put him in the Houston Astrodome surrounded by families of the Victims of 9/11 armed with Wiffle-Ball bats.. broadcast it on PPV and give the proceeeds to the Ronald McDonald house

[SixPackBack]

nah.. i say put him in the Houston Astrodome surrounded by families of the Victims of 9/11 armed with Wiffle-Ball bats.. broadcast it on PPV and give the proceeeds to the Ronald McDonald house


Barbaric treatment SARGE but as close to natural justice as you can get.

[Big Dave]

i face anti- Americanism here every day

You reckon you get 'anti' - :rofl:
Actually - not true - the only time i've been racially hassled in NZ was by a Fat, Ugly, Indian Chic - go figure!

[Big Dave]

Effective, but. And cheap. And quick. Rather like a bit of barbaric m'self.


Bit of a dark horse the old ixion. disguised by the fluro vest no doubt.

[Waylander]

Injection is too good for him. Bring back the chair, or something far more painfull and less humain.

[Madness]

nah.. i say put him in the Houston Astrodome surrounded by families of the Victims of 9/11 armed with Wiffle-Ball bats.. broadcast it on PPV and give the proceeeds to the Ronald McDonald house

My missus would be there. Her sister recieved life changing permanent injuries during the 9/11 attacks. She was near the towers, missing for a week before they were able to identify her in a hospital somewhere in NY.

[Jackrat]

I agree with what a few of the family members of the 9/11 dead are saying.
He should get life,with a big Mexican cell mate.
Death will give him what he wants,both recognition and marterdom.
Maybe 2-3 big Mexicans,,,,,,per day.

[Waylander]

I agree with what a few of the family members of the 9/11 dead are saying.
He should get life,with a big Mexican cell mate.
Death will give him what he wants,both recognition and marterdom.
Maybe 2-3 big Mexicans,,,,,,per day.
Not what he wants he can't get what he wants. Because he failed in his misson he wont be getting those 72 virgins or whatever. But someone needs to tell him that.

Still it needs to be something very painfull and taking many many months.

[SPman]

i face anti- Americanism here every day and i have yet to blow up a schoolbus

the day is young though...
Of course not - you'd burn your mouth on the exhaust!

[SARGE]

My missus would be there. Her sister recieved life changing permanent injuries during the 9/11 attacks. She was near the towers, missing for a week before they were able to identify her in a hospital somewhere in NY.


sorry to hear that man... i lost a few online mates in that too..

[Lou Girardin]

Yeah good idea, give the prick what he wants - martyrdom.
He can be another rallying point for more like him.
Life with no parole will let him die in obscurity and he won't get his 72 virgins.

[SARGE]

Yeah good idea, give the prick what he wants - martyrdom.
He can be another rallying point for more like him.
Life with no parole will let him die in obscurity and he won't get his 72 virgins.



problem with that Lou, is that the prison guards will let it slip who he is and some big Hells Angel will rape him to death in the shower... which wouldnt be a bad thing nessasarily, but he would still get to die a martyr ... an ass-raped martyr.. but...

[Lou Girardin]

problem with that Lou, is that the prison guards will let it slip who he is and some big Hells Angel will rape him to death in the shower... which wouldnt be a bad thing nessasarily, but he would still get to die a martyr ... an ass-raped martyr.. but...

No, that is not martyrdom. Being murdered by the Great Satan, which is what the fundamentalists will call execution, is martyrdom.
But let's not let commonsense get in the way of a good lynchin'.
After all, all the other good ideas of the coalition of the willing are working fine.

[SARGE]

.
After all, all the other good ideas of the coalition of the willing are working fine.


yea.. we now have the 2 largest military bases in the world.. right on the Iranian / Pakistanian borders...anyone who thinks Iraq was over oil is seriously deluded... its about Force Projection and positioning..Saudi Arabia is the largest contributor to Al Qeda and the Taliban.. Iran had shadow governments in place in Iraq for years .. the Pakistanian Intellegence Service contributes heavily to Al Qeda.. hell... even Russia is giving Iran technology ( the new Cavitation Torpedos are the product of Russian Research ..remember the Kursk disaster?.. that was caused by a miss-fire of one of these torpedos)

this Chess Match is ongoing .. will be for years..

[Teflon]

the US needs to be more brutal and chop the wankers head off.

What we really need is our own terror group to destroy this religion. The fuckers accept pedophilia, so they deserve to die.

[SARGE]

the US needs to be more brutal and chop the wankers head off.

What we really need is our own terror group to destroy this religion. The fuckers accept pedophilia, so they deserve to die.



they need to .. have you seen thier women?

[mstriumph]

nooooooooo - and neither has anyone else :no:

... except for the eyes hands and sandals, of course .....:corn:

[idb]

nooooooooo - and neither has anyone else :no:

... except for the eyes hands and sandals, of course .....:corn:
Oooeerrr!
Saucy wenches.
I like a glimpse of ankle myself!!!

[DirtMad]

Ooooh Raaa! sarge.
bag `em and tag `em :angry2:

.....or just nuke `em :yes: hehe

Ps. Im flying to the States on Friday, will send him your love...

[SARGE]

Ooooh Raaa! sarge.
bag `em and tag `em :angry2:

.....or just nuke `em :yes: hehe

Ps. Im flying to the States on Friday, will send him your love...



ahhhh!! .. .dude .. bring me back some Taco Bell...

[Lou Girardin]

this Chess Match is ongoing .. will be for years..

Chess requires intellect. That puts Bush and Co at a severe disadvantage.

[SARGE]

Chess requires intellect. That puts Bush and Co at a severe disadvantage.


in the big picture Lou, Bush is just a figurehead.. this started LOOOONG ago.. this whole war started after the USSR collapsed..

Geo-Polotics are NOT passive affairs..if you look at Planet Earth Inc.(tm).. all the major players are like departments where you work.. some departments get along great .. but some people and departments go out of thier way to make work hell.. and top that off with the fact that everyone hates the " Boss" ( the UN).. everyone has thier own agendas and some will go to exterme lengths to achive them.


GWB is a puppet.. nothing more..you cant honestly think that this man could come up with an original idea, can you?.. he's not running the show.. that is going on WAY behind the scenes.. Iraq is NOT about what the media tells you.. you ARE being lied to..

GET OVER IT.. there is nothing you can do about it .. nothing. history is not being made .. it is being scripted.. go to work, have nice holiday's, live life to the full and...




enjoy the show :stoogie:

[The_Dover]

Keep him naked in a prison cell on a diet of pork products and lager. Screen hardcore porn, capitalist propaganda and jewish tv programmes.

Allow people to walk by and ridicule him daily, and have a rabbi come visit on holy days to try and convert the cunt.

[Pixie]

Stupid yanks can't get their heads around the fact that he believes and wants to die a martyr.
His worst penalty would be to be kept in prison for as long as possible.
Keeping him from joining his particlular sky fairy.

[Pixie]

even Russia is giving Iran technology ( the new Cavitation Torpedos are the product of Russian Research ..remember the Kursk disaster?.. that was caused by a miss-fire of one of these torpedos)

this Chess Match is ongoing .. will be for years..
The super cavitation torpedo is rocket propelled - no propellor driven torpedo could achieve 360 kmph.
The Kursk torpedo was an old tech hydrogen peroxide and fuel internal combustion engine driven torpedo.
The hydrogen peroxide tank sprung a leak and when the H2O2 made contact with brass fuel fittings within the pressure casing of the device,ultra high pressure oxygen was generated,bursting the casing and causing the explosion

[Swoop]

Stupid yanks can't get their heads around the fact that he believes and wants to die a martyr.
His worst penalty would be to be kept in prison for as long as possible.
Keeping him from joining his particlular sky fairy.
If they toast him, then make sure he has a bacon sandwitch in his hand at the time...:whistle:

[DirtMad]

ahhhh!! .. .dude .. bring me back some Taco Bell...

haha comin at ya from the states (got a spare couple of mins on the net..)
tried some taco bell, thats some greasy shit! haha.
got me some "alpinestar smx plus boots" for 240US all up, but not sure if it was a good price or not ?? :rolleyes: retail is 279US over here..

[Winston001]

Moussaoui was convicted of being part of a criminal conspiracy. He'd be treated the same here, except for capital punishment. He's protected by his Fifth Amendment rights in that he cannot be compelled to dob his mates in but if he's part of a conspiracy, then he faces the same ultimate charges and sentence.

Speaking up might have saved him from the conspiracy charge - after all 9/11 wouldn't have happened. Just a few criminal trials.

I agree with other posters - killing this guy is nuts. He'll become another matyr. I'm opposed to capital punishment anyway, and much as I like the USA, that is one area of law where they differ from almost all of the Western world. France may still execute traitors?