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pastybee
5th April 2006, 09:08
Hi All,
I put a thread up yesterday about having my brakes done and how they keep squeeeking thanks for the replys
now i got the brakes done and the fork seals and the tappets and I belive new coolaint.(Was on the sheet)
Now after the service I notice that the temp gauge goes up to half way and in all my time with my baby it never has moved of the bottom is this normal for getting the tappets and new coolant?????
So after the service the bike feels a bit diffrent i notice the good bits about being able to stop safely which is a bonus but the bike vibrates more than it use to or am i beinging fussy
Might take it back just to make sure everything is in order but would like to have an idea off what might be the issue so when i talk to the guy i know what i am talking about
Any advice will be appreciated
P
Ixion
5th April 2006, 09:09
Temp gauge is behaving as it should. Either it wasn't working before, or some twit had removed the thermostat. Cold running is a bad thing.
Insanity_rules
5th April 2006, 09:30
Yep the temp gauge is honda normal, it should go to halfish way if the cooling system is behaving properly. Hondas also do get a bit rattly from time to time (Vibration could be to do with undoing and redoing up engine mounts) without a logical reason but if your worried get it checked over by another mechanic so you save face to the first guy.
pastybee
5th April 2006, 09:33
Cheers for that just always warm the bike before running so good to know its normal, i guess the mechanic did a good job there.
I think I am just being fussy but its good to get some feedback
Cheers
P
vifferman
5th April 2006, 09:41
Cheers for that just always warm the bike before running so good to know its normal, i guess the mechanic did a good job there.
I think I am just being fussy but its good to get some feedback
Cheers
P
Well, if you want to be fussy, DON'T warm the bike up too much before riding. No more than a minute (just enough time to fasten your helmet and put your gloves on). It's actually better to warm the bike up by riding it gently, as you get better oil circulation.
beyond
5th April 2006, 12:33
Well, if you want to be fussy, DON'T warm the bike up too much before riding. No more than a minute (just enough time to fasten your helmet and put your gloves on). It's actually better to warm the bike up by riding it gently, as you get better oil circulation.
Second that. Better to get your gear on, start your bike and move off straight away, gently does it for the first couple of k's and then start feeding it more.
Cold starting and cold idling is what stuffs an engine more than anything else.
You get a build up of fuel from the choke system which washes off the oil film
and the oil takes longer to get to temperature around all parts of the engine, giving rise to accelerated wear.
Oh, something I see many people doing to bikes and cars. Rev the crap out of them while they are cold. :crazy:
pastybee
5th April 2006, 14:40
Second that. Better to get your gear on, start your bike and move off straight away, gently does it for the first couple of k's and then start feeding it more.
Cold starting and cold idling is what stuffs an engine more than anything else.
You get a build up of fuel from the choke system which washes off the oil film
and the oil takes longer to get to temperature around all parts of the engine, giving rise to accelerated wear.
Oh, something I see many people doing to bikes and cars. Rev the crap out of them while they are cold. :crazy:
Thanks for that..I was unaware of issues around warming it up but makes sense will just cruise into it
Cheers P
Sketchy_Racer
5th April 2006, 15:12
It may have been that the coolant level may have not been high enough to run past it.
Often the thermostat is on top of the radiator and if the level is too low the water cant reach it. My KR does this if the coolant leaks out too low (split in pipe :angry: )
If it is running about half way that is normal. My CBR250 runs at about 1 third when open road riding and gets to about half when sitting in traffic.
imdying
5th April 2006, 15:20
I'm a fan of riding them too. Way I figure it, the motor is revving, so the oil pump is turning faster etc etc. Plus I assume that heat == correct tolerances faster?
ManDownUnder
5th April 2006, 15:22
It's actually better to warm the bike up by riding it gently, as you get better oil circulation.
Nothin' personal but... AYE???
I know you're not saying hammer it while she's cold... but I find it hard to believe loading up the engine without oil being there is better than letting it sit and warm through...
James Deuce
5th April 2006, 15:33
Within about 30 seconds you have all the oil you're going to get circulating through the engine at idle. Vifferman is right.
imdying
5th April 2006, 15:34
Oil is there, that's what the oil pump does.
Here's a few big assumptions, someone like Motu will be able to shed more light here... Consider the high revving nature of bikes. I'm guessing the oil pumps have to be geared to run right at max rpm... would make sense. That would mean at idle, as a side effect, they run quite slow. Riding the bike at low revs, as you would on a cold motor down the street, would mean the oil pump was spinning faster, and better able to lube the motor. I'm picking that having that extra pump speed outweighs any negative effects from putting the motor under a little load.
James Deuce
5th April 2006, 16:34
It's been discussed before. The search function is your friend.
Motu
5th April 2006, 17:05
But the cold oil will lift the bypass on the filter...just run them gentle until you see the needle lift,3 or 4 km is enough.Important for a diesel,a diesel won't warm unless it's worked,they will stay cold if left to idle...I start and go gentle for 2km,then I am at 100kph for 60kms.
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