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Grizz
5th April 2006, 19:11
Coming home from work I spotted a Domino's pizza delivery lad on a scooter - the only protection a Helmet and a Fluro vest!!

No jacket
No pants
No gloves
No boots

Now I assume its a Domino's scooter as it had the logo on the front, if so Domino's (http://www.dominospizza.co.nz) how about ensuring your delivery personel are not just visible but are better protected!!

If not and its your own ride, put the money you make from the deliveries in to some decent gaer quick smart!

texmo
5th April 2006, 19:19
Do you really care? have you no heard of Darwin's law before?

Colapop
5th April 2006, 19:23
No matter where you end up in this world to get there you have to start somewhere. Those of us that have had shit jobs before trying to make ends meet (or save for a bike + decent gear) will hope that the companies provide the gear for their staff and make sure that they wear it by ensure it is company policy.

Madness
5th April 2006, 19:25
You'd feel guilty if the dude was killed on his way to your house with a hot Tony Pepperoni. Killed by death just because you were too fuckin lazy to go down there and pick the damn pizza up yourself.

Isn't life frought (SP) with danger??

eliot-ness
5th April 2006, 19:27
[QUOTE=Grizz]Coming home from work I spotted a Domino's pizza delivery lad on a scooter - the only protection a Helmet and a Fluro vest!!

No jacket
No pants
No gloves
No boots

Maybe he's moonlighting for strippergram::whistle:

Madness
5th April 2006, 19:27
I just noticed where you live. It's known as the wild west for a reason!!
Please note I do not intend to diss West Auckland. I love the place,honest

Grizz
5th April 2006, 19:32
I just noticed where you live. It's known as the wild west for a reason!!
Please note I do not intend to diss West Auckland. I love the place,honest

I saw him in East Tamaki.

PS Its not that wild, and you get used to the ug boots, black jumper, cortina on blocks on the front lawn with grass up to the chassis, and BTW the mullet isn't as bad as peeps make out!

Grizz
5th April 2006, 19:35
Do you really care? have you no heard of Darwin's law before?

Yes, and yes.

If it is a company provided scooter, then I belive the company should provide the appropriate gear, more than a fluro anyways.

If not, then I hope the guy takes it easy, coz in peak hour traffic and in dodgy weather if he comes off there isn't much between him and the road.

texmo
5th April 2006, 19:39
If it is a company provided scooter, then I belive the company should provide the appropriate gear, more than a fluro anyways.
They did a helmet thats all you have to wear by law. His own stupid fault if he dosent wear gear.

Madness
5th April 2006, 19:42
You get used to the ug boots, black jumper, cortina on blocks on the front lawn with grass up to the chassis, and BTW the mullet isn't as bad as peeps make out!

Sounds like Wainuiomata!!

Grizz
5th April 2006, 19:44
They did a helmet thats all you have to wear by law. His own stupid fault if he dosent wear gear.

Maybe, maybe not.

Theres a difference between the law or a standard and doing whats right.

If its a company scooter, then they should do whats right and IMO it should be ensuring their staff are as protected as they can be, rather than the minimum compliance.

Grizz
5th April 2006, 19:45
Sounds like Wainuiomata!!

Didn't ya know Massey and Wainiomata are Sister cities!

texmo
5th April 2006, 19:46
rather than the minimum compliance.

They also gave him that fluro vest don't forget! If it was my company I would make the guy wear jandels, more of a deterrent for not crashing.

Grizz
5th April 2006, 19:49
They also gave him that fluro vest don't forget! If it was my company I would make the guy wear jandels, more of a deterrent for not crashing.

lol, how about the ultimate deterrent outfit

Stubbies
Stack hat
Fluro vest
Jandals

And just to be sure, spokey dokey's and a chopper flag!

Madness
5th April 2006, 19:53
lol, how about the ultimate deterrent outfit

Stubbies
Stack hat
Fluro vest
Jandals

And just to be sure, spokey dokey's and a chopper flag!

MATE!! With that concept and some relatively edible pizza we could make $$$millions$$$. We could roll the business out in both Massey and Wainuiomata at the same time, then the world!!! Any patent attorneys in here???

Grizz
5th April 2006, 19:56
MATE!! With that concept and some relatively edible pizza we could make $$$millions$$$. We could roll the business out in both Massey and Wainuiomata at the same time, then the world!!! Any patent attorneys in here???

Bugger the edible bit, if they don't do it why should we, lets just slap some slop onto cardboard and let the concept do the rest :headbang:

Sniper
5th April 2006, 19:57
Still better than the day I pillioned that girl in short shorts, hang on, that was yesterday. I guess I should have known better reading all the threads

Grizz
5th April 2006, 19:59
Still better than the day I pillioned that girl in short shorts, hang on, that was yesterday. I guess I should have known better reading all the threads

Sniper you dissapoint me.

46 minutes before you posted a reply, mate you are slipping!:(

Sniper
5th April 2006, 20:02
Lol, I admire your sense of humour mate, good to see a few of us don't mind a bit of stirring

Qkchk
5th April 2006, 20:05
This sounds just as good as the primate I saw while riding home from work the other day - On a GN250 with only a helmet on. No gloves, singlet, shorts and believe it or not farken JANDALS! Who needs toes anyway? ........... just another stat.

Couldnt bring myself to even acknowledge him. Hav'nt got the time for gimps.

Sniper
5th April 2006, 20:16
Why worry Qkchk, he obviously won't be around much longer? Shit I choose to ignore those who wear bad gear. Hell, Im one of them.

I ride to work in dress pants, running shoes, jacket and helmet and gloves. Often in summer I ride home in work shirt, dress pants and helmet. If someone wants to give me a lecture on that, they are wasting their breath, I suffer the consequences if I come off. Same if I get a speeding ticket, I aint gonna winge and moan about it, the cops did their job.

Qkchk
5th April 2006, 20:22
Why worry Qkchk, he obviously won't be around much longer? Shit I choose to ignore those who wear bad gear. Hell, Im one of them.

Ditto. Im the same but I always wear good footwear (workboots) and gloves. Just the Jandals thing eerrkks me. As you say, why worry - its gonna be his problem soon enough. You can only educate........ but ya can't stop a monkey picking his bum.

Sniper
5th April 2006, 20:22
Trye, true......

Motu
5th April 2006, 20:35
Look at this wanker,what a complete and utter dork! No helmet,no gloves,just a stupid fucking smile...fuck these scooter riders piss me off,I'd like to run this prick down with my Pajero,show him just what an idiot he is...no fucking clue about the dangers of bikes at all.Scooter scum!

Qkchk
5th April 2006, 20:37
Look at this wanker,what a complete and utter dork! No helmet,no gloves,just a stupid fucking smile...fuck these scooter riders piss me off,I'd like to run this prick down with my Pajero,show him just what an idiot he is...no fucking clue about the dangers of bikes at all.Scooter scum!
Hehehe so youre obviously not a Rossi fan..............

Motu
5th April 2006, 20:40
Anyone who rides a scooter is a fucking idiot,I wouldn't even wave to him....

Finn
5th April 2006, 21:21
There are far too many shit stirrers on KB and quite frankly I find it most upsetting. Almost as upsetting as all those self rightous, do gooder pricks that piss and moan when they see a biker riding in a t-shirt. For fuck sake, the country is falling apart and they're worrying about what other people choose to wear on a motorbike? They aren't harming anyone. If they fall off, ouch - big deal.

Oh I can just see the responses now... :crybaby: :crybaby: ACC levies :crybaby: :crybaby: What about their friends and family.

texmo
5th April 2006, 21:54
Anyone who rides a scooter is a fucking idiot,I wouldn't even wave to him....
takes one to know one

crash harry
5th April 2006, 21:56
Oh I can just see the responses now... :crybaby: :crybaby: ACC levies :crybaby: :crybaby: What about their friends and family.

I have been known to occasionally ride without a full suit of armour on... I figure that I pay rego on 2 vehicles in this country, therefore my ACC levvies (insurance premiums) are more than paid up for when I need my arse stitched back on.

That'll be quite the operation though... It's a big arse... ;)

Bob
5th April 2006, 22:12
In the UK, the delivery lads have to - by law - be given proper training in the use of the scooters and must also be provided with protective, waterproof clothing which I believe must have flourescent strips.

As for riding about in a t-shirt not harming anyone else - what about the cost to your medical bills as and when they hit the ground and lose half their skin to gravel rash? Don't know how your medical care is paid for over there, but as we still (just about) have a national health service, it all adds to our taxes to try to finance it. The more use, the more money needed to finance.

Personally, I'd never ride in a t-shirt and shorts, as I like the idea of keeping my skin in one piece. So I have jeans from Hood, which are lined with a material similar to Kevlar. And I also have a specially designed, very well vented Summer jacket (mesh panels in the front, additional sleeve vents if needed), which effectively creates a bubble of cooling air. So I'm actually cooler that the rider in t-shirt and shorts.

I did some research into the subject - hopefully this link will be of use (http://www.bobpickett.co.uk/bkit/ridinginheat.htm).

Finn
5th April 2006, 22:19
As for riding about in a t-shirt not harming anyone else - what about the cost to your medical bills as and when they hit the ground and lose half their skin to gravel rash? Don't know how your medical care is paid for over there, but as we still (just about) have a national health service, it all adds to our taxes to try to finance it. The more use, the more money needed to finance.


We've got that covered. Our socialist government over taxed us around $6 billion last year. There's plenty of cash to go around.

Ixion
5th April 2006, 22:45
I'd be VERY careful about the "they cost us for medical bills etc" argument. Even if all motorcylists wore every bit of protective gear possible, they are still going to end up costing the country a lot of money for medical expenses. Then add in the cost of fatalities, cost of rescue services, ambos etc.

So if some motorcylists are to be condemned because they cost the taxpayer money by their actions, should not all motorcyclists ? After all no-one *needs* to ride a motorcyle. And why should cagers , or taxpayers, have to pay extra because motorcylists smash themselves up so often?

So the country could save lots and lots of money simply by forbidding such a silly, dangerous, expensive, unnecesary pasttime. Why bother legislating about what bikers *wear*, legislate to *eliminate* bikers and you solve the problem completely.

We can all buy nice safe cages. Problem solved.

See, it's a dangerous and slippery slope using the "if you crash you'll cost me money" argument.

(Actually why stop at motorcycling. Think how much melanomas and skin cancer must cost the country. Compulsory bhurkas for everyone! And what about the social costs of alcohol? Are y'all going to vote for prohibition?)

Zapf
5th April 2006, 22:51
I would like to 2nd this.... "Domino's Pizza Delivery, lack of safety equipment and training" As I have personally seen the same thing as well.

I actually pulled the lad over and had a talk to him.

They say that the company management considers a helmet and vis vest to be enough for equipment. And those are also 50cc scooters I think, hence the riders never had proper motorcycle training.

Most of these kids have no ideas about riding or motorcycling or the dangers they are putting themselves in.

If WE KB cares about the well being of all who is on two wheels, then I think they are the ones we should assist. Because of how CHEAP their employers are being are putting riders in harms way.

Jase W
5th April 2006, 23:47
I ride around the city in jeans, vans, jacket (armoured), gloves & helmet - does this make me a bad person? :stoogie:

That is the absolute minimum I would wear, I'd rather ride pantsless & barefoot then without my jacket, gloves & helmet, but I dont feel that armoured pants & bike boots are too necessary for city riding (all 50k riding - the occasional 70k) (Pain in the ass having to take a change of pants & shoes with me everywhere too).

Of course in saying that, tomorrow i'll prolly have an off heading to course that will result in no use from the waist down, but my top half will come out without a scratch :Oops:

Bob
6th April 2006, 00:08
I'd be VERY careful about the "they cost us for medical bills etc" argument. Even if all motorcylists wore every bit of protective gear possible, they are still going to end up costing the country a lot of money for medical expenses. Then add in the cost of fatalities, cost of rescue services, ambos etc.

So if some motorcylists are to be condemned because they cost the taxpayer money by their actions, should not all motorcyclists ? After all no-one *needs* to ride a motorcyle. And why should cagers , or taxpayers, have to pay extra because motorcylists smash themselves up so often?

So the country could save lots and lots of money simply by forbidding such a silly, dangerous, expensive, unnecesary pasttime. Why bother legislating about what bikers *wear*, legislate to *eliminate* bikers and you solve the problem completely.

We can all buy nice safe cages. Problem solved.

See, it's a dangerous and slippery slope using the "if you crash you'll cost me money" argument.

(Actually why stop at motorcycling. Think how much melanomas and skin cancer must cost the country. Compulsory bhurkas for everyone! And what about the social costs of alcohol? Are y'all going to vote for prohibition?)

I live in the 51st State of America remember? Outside of the US, the UK must now qualify as THE biggest nanny-state around. And as such, we're under constant bombardment from well-meaning types. And so yes, I am very, very aware of the potential slippery slope.

But if someone has taken "reasonable precautions" (by which I mean wearing protective clothing), then if something does happen, then they've done their best to minimise the effects. And so when the accident studies are compiled, hopefully this is relected.

But going back to my original point - my Summer riding gear will actually keep me COOLER than just wearing a t-shirt and shorts. Quite aside from the safety aspect... both gravel and melanoma sides! You also run the risk of sunstroke when riding in t-shirt and shorts... and you really don't want sunstroke when you are riding a bike...

Bob
6th April 2006, 00:23
I would like to 2nd this.... "Domino's Pizza Delivery, lack of safety equipment and training" As I have personally seen the same thing as well.

I actually pulled the lad over and had a talk to him.

They say that the company management considers a helmet and vis vest to be enough for equipment. And those are also 50cc scooters I think, hence the riders never had proper motorcycle training.

Most of these kids have no ideas about riding or motorcycling or the dangers they are putting themselves in.

If WE KB cares about the well being of all who is on two wheels, then I think they are the ones we should assist. Because of how CHEAP their employers are being are putting riders in harms way.

Hear, hear!

I can't find a copy offhand, but the document someone needs to obtain and wave at someone who can enforce this type of thing is the CODE OF PRACTICE FOR THE PIZZA, PASTA AND ITALIAN FOOD ASSOCIATION in the UK. The (pizza) industry is also working with the Driving Standards Agency to develop vocational training for delivery riders.

OK, it'll probably add a few coppers to the price of a pizza, but better that than the delivery kid being splattered all over the road.

u4ea
6th April 2006, 00:24
:grouphug:
I would like to 2nd this.... "Domino's Pizza Delivery, lack of safety equipment and training" As I have personally seen the same thing as well.

I actually pulled the lad over and had a talk to him.

They say that the company management considers a helmet and vis vest to be enough for equipment. And those are also 50cc scooters I think, hence the riders never had proper motorcycle training.

Most of these kids have no ideas about riding or motorcycling or the dangers they are putting themselves in.

If WE KB cares about the well being of all who is on two wheels, then I think they are the ones we should assist. Because of how CHEAP their employers are being are putting riders in harms way.
i absolutely agree.:2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup

kro
6th April 2006, 06:46
I
Most of these kids have no ideas about riding or motorcycling or the dangers they are putting themselves in.

I couldn't disagree more. Any child that has learnt to ride a push bike, knows the pain involved in even a low speed push bike spill. You cannot be serious that these "kids" have no idea what potential danger they face riding a 2 wheeled vehicle with a minimum of gear, at a steady 50kph.

Depending on who you listen to on KB, the danger these kids on scooters face, is all imaginary anyway, so why are we all worrying?. If the ACC levy argument is your favourite, then why is it drunken and speeding teens/adults in cars that we see on the TV adverts, and not scantily clad motorcyclists?. Because thats the demographic responsible for a large chunk of the carnage on our roads.


If someone doesn't want to wear gear, thats their call

Insanity_rules
6th April 2006, 06:59
I used to work for Sailor Sams (delivery takeaways) as supervisor for the Motorcycle delivery people (I was also out delivering myself). I'd send riders home who werent wearing what I considered a minimum of safety gear and seeing as you got paid by the delivery that was taken seriously. Not only that but the offending rider would often get shit from the other delivery people for letting the side down, especially if we were busy.

I considered a minimum to be a suitable jacket, gloves and boots (or strong footwear). I didn't really like jeans but I'd let them go.

Someone should say something to OSH before some of these delivery kids get really hurt.

HenryDorsetCase
6th April 2006, 09:59
They did a helmet thats all you have to wear by law. His own stupid fault if he dosent wear gear.

hard to save up for a grands worth of kit when you earn $4 an hour.

I agree with the posters who say that the company should supply the gear. a decent jacket at least.

HenryDorsetCase
6th April 2006, 10:02
surely the answer is a letter to Dominos explaining why until you see their delivery drones wearing decent kit, you'll be ordering Hell Pizza.

cos you know, their reduced revenue is what matters to them. Delivery drones are expendable.

mmmmmmm Hell Pizza

HenryDorsetCase
6th April 2006, 10:04
Who has read Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash"

its relevant because our hero (wittily named Hiro Protagonist) delivers Pizzas for Cosa Nostra Pizza. He gets into all sorts of trouble when a delivery goes over 30 minutes.

Grizz
6th April 2006, 18:44
I don't know what good it will do but I sent a feedback form to Domino's will be interested in their reply.

While driving home from work on Wednesday 5th April, I saw one of your scooter delivery personnel. This was at the corner of Springs Road and East Tamaki roads in Auckland at about 3.45PM.

I am an active member of the New Zealand motorcycle community, I both ride and race bikes, and as such I was very concerned to see the lack of appropriate safety clothing he was wearing, which consisted only of a Helmet and a fluro vest. It is also debatable if a fluro vest can be considered safety equipment, however the situation was made worse as the weather was inclement, overcast with showers and the light was fading.

What is your company’s policy on motorcycle safety regarding your delivery personnel.

Does your company provide equipment? or does it specify a minimum level of protective equipment that the rider must wear?

Also I must advise you that this issue has been raised on a New Zealand motorcycle website, http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=27403 and also your reply may also be publicised.

I look forward with interests to your comments.

mdb
6th April 2006, 20:05
Here in Welly the Hell's pizza guys have one of those scooters with the cage over it. Your lucky if you see them with a helmet on ... I think Dominoes are doing a bang up job providing not just a helmet but a flouro vest too ;-)

MGST
8th April 2006, 20:13
According to the Health and Safety Act 199?, Section 6 I think, an employer has to provide a safe work place. An employer also has to provide personal protective equipment ( PPE ) relative to the job. The employer must have a hazard management plan. All hazards that the employee can incounter during the course of their job must be identified, and a plan put in place to deal with those hazards. The standard way is the 'eliminate, isolate, minimise' procedure. They could eliminate the hazard ( falling off / being knocked off motorscooter ) by driving cars only. They could minimise the hazard by providing boots, pants, jacket etc to minimise the severity of injury caused by the hazard. The employer must also ensure the employee is competent to carry out the tasks associated with their job ( riding a scooter ). Under the same legislation, the employee must work safely at all times, and must report all hazards. So one could say that both parties are at fault, one more than the other. But at the end of the day, a lot of people working in this type of jobs are young people / students, some with not a lot of clues, and desperate for a dollar, so they don't want to cause any trouble, and end up taking risks. It is pretty poor on the part of the pizza company if they don't provide PPE, and if they do, the duty manager should get his arse kicked for not making sure his staff are wearing it, and the staffer should get his arse kicked twice, once for not adhering to company safety policy, and a second time for being a dumbass. To the person who wrote to the pizza company, you deserve some sort of award. Good on you for having the balls to ask the pizza company to explain themselves. I will be very interested to see thier reply.

Ixion
8th April 2006, 20:23
Probably irrelevant, they are almost certain to be contractors.

Korea
8th April 2006, 20:36
Coming home from work I spotted a Domino's pizza delivery lad on a scooter - the only protection a Helmet and a Fluro vest!!

No jacket
No pants
No gloves
No boots



You say he was without pants? Bit of a perv wasn't he?

kickingzebra
8th April 2006, 20:37
Can't imagine I would have done contracting for 4 bucks an hour... GST reg not neccesary, as low wage, but ACC payments etc... Mind you, the kids won't know what they aren't told.

If it was my guys on the building site, and they got hurt because I didn't provide the gear, my personal liability is limited to $50,000 and the company liability is up to $500,000 on each count. Can get expensive if guys aren't wearing useless fluro vests and the osh inspector is having a bad day...
Work is of course different to the home, and I will happily do the most dodgy things on my own ;)

johnnny
8th April 2006, 22:04
I always ride in jandals, shorts and usually a sweatshirt or something.

I don't care that I am unprotected. If I crash, my problem. I've had a fair bit of gravel rash from pushbike crashes faster than 60km/hr, and I think it is just part of the risk of riding a bike, or in this case scooter.

Grizz
8th April 2006, 22:34
To the person who wrote to the pizza company, you deserve some sort of award. Good on you for having the balls to ask the pizza company to explain themselves. I will be very interested to see thier reply.

I'm not looking for any award, just concerned that the company is not making sure their staff are looked after.

I wonder also what their response will be, hopefully now that they now this issue is in the public arena it will force them to do more.

I will post their reply, and will chase them up if I don't hear from them.

Grizz
8th April 2006, 22:40
I always ride in jandals, shorts and usually a sweatshirt or something.

I don't care that I am unprotected. If I crash, my problem. I've had a fair bit of gravel rash from pushbike crashes faster than 60km/hr, and I think it is just part of the risk of riding a bike, or in this case scooter.

Interesting attititude, but my thinking on this is that if you crash if isn't just your problem, it will be a problem by anyone that may be affected by your crash, rangeing from your family, friends, your employer, etc, not to mention the acc levies etc etc.

I won't force my opinion on anyone (apart from my children) and if you ride like / how you do it's your choice, in this case though I believe that the employee should be either provided with the adeqaute equipment, or it should be stipulated by the employer that the rider should wear the adequate gear.

Jantar
8th April 2006, 23:41
I always ride in jandals, shorts and usually a sweatshirt or something.

I don't care that I am unprotected. If I crash, my problem. I've had a fair bit of gravel rash from pushbike crashes faster than 60km/hr, and I think it is just part of the risk of riding a bike, or in this case scooter.

OK that's your call, but as you get a bit more experienced and want to get a bit more adventurous with your riding you may find your attitude will change.

I don't always wear full protective gear either, but one rule I do stick to is NO BARE SKIN. Helmet, gloves, solid footwear and some other full covering is the absolute minimum. Even for commuting to work its a leather jacket, and for longer trips or cooler weather its full leathers.

As for someone who is required to ride as part of their job there is every reason to always wear full protective gear.

Highlander
9th April 2006, 00:11
I always ride in jandals, shorts and usually a sweatshirt or something.

I don't care that I am unprotected. If I crash, my problem. I've had a fair bit of gravel rash from pushbike crashes faster than 60km/hr, and I think it is just part of the risk of riding a bike, or in this case scooter.


Ifwe lived in a country where YOU paid for your medical expesnses and families well being while you recouperated, I could agree with it being your call. As we live in a country where those who play by the rules (and try to do the right thing) pay for the expenses of those who need protecting from their own stupidity, I don't see why my Taxes, ACC levies, Insurance Premiums, relicencing fees should be continually increasing to cover attitudes like this.

u4ea
9th April 2006, 00:20
these kids are our future,someones babies.i have seen horrific injuries of guys what have had 50K collision accidents,usually the car hasn"t seen them.they may be on small bikes but they are out in the elements and have vthe same risks as the "big boys".employers like that are scumbags.

Zapf
9th April 2006, 20:55
You cannot be serious that these "kids" have no idea what potential danger they face riding a 2 wheeled vehicle with a minimum of gear, at a steady 50kph.

Meet a kid exactly like that... cause they haven't crashed and learnt from the hard way yet.

texmo
10th April 2006, 11:16
hard to save up for a grands worth of kit when you earn $4 an hour.

I agree with the posters who say that the company should supply the gear. a decent jacket at least.
They pad $10 an hour plus $4 for every delivery made.

On another note I just got back from the shore I rode my scooter over the bridge and back in shorts, half face, t-shirt and shoes.

kickingzebra
10th April 2006, 11:22
You're in trubble!!!!!

Edit) and wheres my pizza biartch?? I got 5 bucks with your name on it!!

Qkkid
10th April 2006, 11:23
They also gave him that fluro vest don't forget! If it was my company I would make the guy wear jandels, more of a deterrent for not crashing.
Fuck that was funny (just for a second):laugh:

johnnny
11th April 2006, 07:27
Ifwe lived in a country where YOU paid for your medical expesnses and families well being while you recouperated, I could agree with it being your call. As we live in a country where those who play by the rules (and try to do the right thing) pay for the expenses of those who need protecting from their own stupidity, I don't see why my Taxes, ACC levies, Insurance Premiums, relicencing fees should be continually increasing to cover attitudes like this.

My insurance pay for any medical expenses I have, something I pay a substantial amount out of my pocket for. And, surprisingly enough, my "stupidity" means I ride defensively and have never had to make a claim for an accident. Funny that.

Jantar
11th April 2006, 09:38
Meet a kid exactly like that... cause they haven't crashed and learnt from the hard way yet.
Lokks like there's one posting on this thread. Hopefully hr'll learn before he kills himself.

kickingzebra
11th April 2006, 10:38
We should take bets... ACC are still the ones that pay on accident costs. if you crash, regardless, it will cost the taxpayer, police time, ambulance hospital. Medical bills aren't the only thing that costs money.
I have health insurance too, but it is ACC that pays for my medical care as a result of any accidents I may have.

MXPX responsibilty, whats that? Need I go on?

johnnny
11th April 2006, 13:04
Lokks like there's one posting on this thread. Hopefully hr'll learn before he kills himself.

Like I said before, I have crashed a couple of times on a standard pushbike at over 60km/hr, and yes I got hurt a bit, but it doesn't really bother me. That is part of the risk of riding a pushbike. Do you think I should take full leathers on one of those too?

kickingzebra
11th April 2006, 13:22
Funny, the riders on tour d france that crash at those speeds often end up dead...

MisterD
11th April 2006, 14:00
Funny, the riders on tour d france that crash at those speeds often end up dead...

Statistically KZ that's bollocks, since 1903 there have been three deaths on the TdF, one of those was due to drugs and exhaustion. The last one was Fabio Casartelli, who's head hit a concrete block following a crash on a descent, but how many high speed spills have there been in 103 years?

Mostly it's areas of skin lost and broken limbs and collar bones....

kickingzebra
11th April 2006, 16:13
I must be doing wonderfully with bad statistics... bah, I blame my bad keyboard
The point is wear the gear!!

Zapf
19th April 2006, 18:48
so have we heard back from the Pizza bosses yet?

kickingzebra
19th April 2006, 20:53
Mmmm, Pizza... Dribble...

I wonder if their work ACC plan includes feeding scooter riding employees mulched pizza through a straw??
I'll take the meatballs...

Grizz
19th April 2006, 21:11
so have we heard back from the Pizza bosses yet?

No Zapf, nothing, nada, zip, zero. I was going to wait till the end of the week to see if they would respond.

Now because they haven't I am thinking that either their website submit comment thingy is either broke, or they have chosen to ignore me. I think the latter. So I could either try again, or not, knowing that they probably have read this and are just too shy to respond.

All I can hope is that they have read the letter, and the posts in this thread and will take some of the critisism on board and do something about it.

Does anyone here know anyone who works for Domino's, as it would be interesting to see if anything has happened.

Zapf
20th April 2006, 15:11
No Zapf, nothing, nada, zip, zero. I was going to wait till the end of the week to see if they would respond.

Now because they haven't I am thinking that either their website submit comment thingy is either broke, or they have chosen to ignore me. I think the latter. So I could either try again, or not, knowing that they probably have read this and are just too shy to respond.

All I can hope is that they have read the letter, and the posts in this thread and will take some of the critisism on board and do something about it.

Does anyone here know anyone who works for Domino's, as it would be interesting to see if anything has happened.

care to PM / email me a copy of the letter? I'll deliver it to them on a bike :)

Grizz
20th April 2006, 19:30
PM sent Zapf

The Pastor
20th April 2006, 23:58
wtf hax,

I just appiled to be a delivery boy for dominoes on my gpz1000(cc) - im going to wear the kit (jacket gloves helmet boots) but i'll ask what gear i need to ride in what the proseedures are etc etc, most of the time the managers are students them selfs and dont really care to be frank.....

Yes I know tires and gas on my bike is probably going to = the ammount I get payed, but im getting a cape and going to become pizza man so it will be good.

Note today I rode to the petrol station with no gear at all, not even a helmet, I personnaly dont have a problem with "safty gear" I wear it (because it keeps me warm) but I wouldnt turn around and go home if i forgot my boots, hell I wouldnt even jump off my bike for boots (jacket helmet and gloves if it was a cold day...):whocares: I do make the effort for safty gear, and it is worthwhile, im just the kind of guy who does first thinks later...


To hell with it, SAFTY GEAR IS FOR WIMPS! - ahhh feels alot better. IMHO you have to feeel the ride maaan, that includes the gravel ripping your skin from your face at 200kph......

UrbanMyth
21st April 2006, 12:45
rad! a scooter pizza boy i only see big exhaust hatchback fag ones here

The Pastor
21st April 2006, 12:56
a gpz1000rx is -->NOT<-- a scooter......

kickingzebra
21st April 2006, 14:04
Close enough...

The Pastor
21st April 2006, 16:06
Your puny bikes are closer to a scooter than my beast. sif bikes are fast sub 1000cc!

kickingzebra
21st April 2006, 16:35
:Pokey: 114 horse at the crank on gpz thou...
search up on gsxr 6... you may be shocked and amazed...
165 kg dry is puny. puny = good handling, not like obese scooter.. haha :Pokey:

The Pastor
21st April 2006, 20:33
Lies! puny = for weak people.


back on topic, Anyone got any sort of cheap luggage rack I can put onto my bike? Its going to be tricky carring teh pizzas :|

kickingzebra
22nd April 2006, 09:37
Try and find a packrack sysetm for it, and just whack some ply on it for pizza size

UrbanMyth
22nd April 2006, 18:29
dang! off the topic and settle :D bikers are meant to be cool to each other.
Both your bikes are rad and not scooters

The Pastor
22nd April 2006, 21:22
Try and find a packrack sysetm for it, and just whack some ply on it for pizza size

Thats just it, theres no where to bolt the pack rack on it, and I cant find any for my bike, my idea is just to get a bit of ply tie it down with bungee cords the use more bungee cords to hold the pizzas..

kickingzebra
22nd April 2006, 21:25
Hmm, might make pizza a bit munched up...
Surely there are some tie down points at least?
U'll need to make a box/basket that will fit the pizza bag thing, coz otherwise you'll munch them up, otherwise you could try to find a top box etc that fits.
Do ventura not make a packrack system to fit GPZ?

Silver
14th May 2006, 14:28
I work for Domino's Pizza in Hastings, delivering on the scooter.

When they first brought them out, we had to attend a basic handling course, very similar to the one I did when I went for my learners license.
Cornering with the bike at full lock, through the cones and emergency stop etc.
We were provided with a open face helmet (groan) that was several sizes too large. XXL if i recall correctly. Viper was the name, greyish colour with the oddest plastic thing over the top of the visor that did nothing but look silly.
Anyway, they gave us the helmet, and a jacket with some plastic armoured bits in it, that was also several sizes too large.
Armour flops everywhere, i can fit a Honda racing jacket, two jerseys + two shirts under it and still have a lot of room hehe.

This was all we were provided with, and i had to fight just to get gloves and a fullface helmet for winter!!!

The attitude of the management as it appears to me, is if what we give you is legal, then meh it's good enough for you. This has changed a little bit with the coming of winter, but only as a necessity to shut me up and keep me delivering :moon:

I've had quite a few bikers chat to me, either on deliveries or outside the store about the lack of proper gear. Including i'm fairly sure KB's own Froggyfrenchman (the mullet gave it away bro :Punk: )

If you'd like to share your opinion with Dominos on their lack of gear or whatever, the pizza boxes have a toll free feedback line on them, and there is an online feedback form here (http://www.dominospizza.co.nz/asp/great_company/feedback.asp).

That was a bit of a rambling rant :D
If you're in Hastings, Havelock Nth or Flaxmere and see a Dominos scooterboy, give us a wave!
I'm quite friendly when i'm not being abused by passersby :tugger: