Chch HP being C**nts

[jimbo600]

One day after a new commissioner was appointed and spouting rhetoric about iproving the police public image the Chch HP decided to have a blitz on urban junctions. Now these poor sods (public) were turning right into a double lane and half of them got it wrong. A minor thing and who really knows this shitty little rule anyway. They (HP) were issuing $150 ION faster than they could pull the punters over. Bravo well fuckin done. Meanwhile cops in Hamilton have quit the job and are setting up a investigation firm as the cops aint doing it due to lake of resource.

[R6_kid]

that is arse... i dont understand the system in this country sometimes. Luckily for me i have System of a Down to remind me that there are other places more fucked up than out own country.

[Sniper]

Its CHCH, I saw the horrible bastards doing it and wished that I was brave enough to do it and attempt a runner but unfortunatly I would have been labeled a rebel and have no regard for my safety or others. Just to rub salt in the wound I would choose to wear a shirt and JANDALS just to get peoples hackels up about the correct safety gear to wear whilst doing an illegal runner.

Of course I would never do such things

[Finn]

There must be a major family disagreement going on in Christchurch.

[mangell6]

Numbers down, local management tells the workers to UP productivity. Workers don't have a choice.

Bet the local management will get an ear full from head office, not about meeting the quota but about getting adverse publicity.

Gotta say though those people are pretty DUMB what they were doing.

[onearmedbandit]

Actually jimbo, this is one I'm glad to see they are enforcing. The number of crashes and near misses every day in Christchurch because maybe 20% of drivers know this rule. Primer example is Moorhouse ave onto Montreal street. Montreal is a 2 lane North bound oneway system, Moorhouse ave a 6 lane two-way road running perpendicular to Montreal. Turning left into Montreal into the closest lane (my lane) I have been abused by drivers turning right in Montreal assuming they can pick andchoose which lane they want. I consider myself a defensive driver (got the certificate!!!) and am well aware what the other driver is up to, however I won't give in, I'll lock their vision and let them know that I am turning into the lane the law allows me to. Sure sometimes it's best to stop, and I do when it's obvious the other driver is blind. And it helps to drive a 2.5 tonne 4x4 as well.

If you are going to drive on the road, know where to put your vehicle.

[dangerous]

One day after a new commissioner was appointed and spouting rhetoric about iproving the police public image the Chch HP decided to have a blitz on urban junctions. Now these poor sods (public) were turning right into a double lane and half of them got it wrong. A minor thing and who really knows this shitty little rule anyway. They (HP) were issuing $150 ION faster than they could pull the punters over. Bravo well fuckin done. Meanwhile cops in Hamilton have quit the job and are setting up a investigation firm as the cops aint doing it due to lake of resource.
Gota agree with OMB all the way.

Jimbo, there is a big crack down going on here and beleave it or not Chch has the highest acco records at interections in any city in NZ.... bout fuking time it was sorted.

Now the other big thing they are hitting is amber and red light runners... very bad down here and getting worse by the day... bravo to the piggers for doing something that 'should' help for a change not doing those speeding at 6-9 k over.

IMHO cutting in the path of another car/bike isent a minor thing Jim, can kill ya ya know :)

[jimbo600]

Actually jimbo, this is one I'm glad to see they are enforcing. The number of crashes and near misses every day in Christchurch because maybe 20% of drivers know this rule. Primer example is Moorhouse ave onto Montreal street. Montreal is a 2 lane North bound oneway system, Moorhouse ave a 6 lane two-way road running perpendicular to Montreal. Turning left into Montreal into the closest lane (my lane) I have been abused by drivers turning right in Montreal assuming they can pick andchoose which lane they want. I consider myself a defensive driver (got the certificate!!!) and am well aware what the other driver is up to, however I won't give in, I'll lock their vision and let them know that I am turning into the lane the law allows me to. Sure sometimes it's best to stop, and I do when it's obvious the other driver is blind. And it helps to drive a 2.5 tonne 4x4 as well.

If you are going to drive on the road, know where to put your vehicle.

Fair enough mate. Good call. But surely they could have warned everyone? That way they would have achieved what they set out to do and got eddy punch clock public on side too. Most folk are simply unaware of the rule. I for example though wheelies were legal until I got pulled for it.

Nice wheelie on your avatar too mate.

[SPman]

If you are going to drive on the road, know where to put your vehicle.
Well - thats 80% of drivers fucked, for a starter!

[jimbo600]

Gota agree with OMB all the way.

Jimbo, there is a big crack down going on here and beleave it or not Chch has the highest acco records at interections in any city in NZ.... bout fuking time it was sorted.

Now the other big thing they are hitting is amber and red light runners... very bad down here and getting worse by the day... bravo to the piggers for doing something that 'should' help for a change not doing those speeding at 6-9 k over.

Amber light runners are wankers. As a motorcyclist I pray for an amber light and stop every time, as its a good wheelie practise off the lights.

[dangerous]

But surely they could have warned everyone?
We were warned, it was on the news for days... thats how I learnt bout Chch having the worse acco at intersection thing in NZ.


Amber light runners are wankers. As a motorcyclist I pray for an amber light and stop every time, as its a good wheelie practise off the lights.
believe me when I say they still run through em when they have gone red... wheelies.... cool but a lot of intersectons here have cameras on, so not a good idea.

[Gazzar]

I drive in auckland every day in a truck and i hope they start doing it up hear as well. Its time drivers new the road rules if you were comeing a long in the lane and a cage crossed the lane and hit you are they still w--kers for doing the enforcement of the laws.



thats only my thoughts
gary

[jimbo600]

We were warned, it was on the news for days... thats how I learnt bout Chch having the worse acco at intersection thing in NZ.

Well thats me learnt then. Jeez could have waited till a few pages were up first.

[dangerous]

Well thats me learnt then. Jeez could have waited till a few pages were up first.
LMFAO...... sorry man.

Ya know... its got me fuked as to why the land transport/cops etc wast there time with the adds on TV were they show crashes... people take no notice of them or lough it off.
So... I've always woundered why the hell don't they do adds (frequantly and at hi viewing times) were they use a cartoon type set up were they show the road code being used corectly.... kinda like in the rd code book.

I think that people would take more notice of this and relise ther cock ups... like turning into the correct lane.
Then again the arses that think they no beter and own the rd's will still take no notice :brick:

[jimbo600]

LMFAO...... sorry man.

Ya know... its got me fuked as to why the land transport/cops etc wast there time with the adds on TV were they show crashes... people take no notice of them or lough it off.
So... I've always woundered why the hell don't they do adds (frequantly and at hi viewing times) were they use a cartoon type set up were they show the road code being used corectly.... kinda like in the rd code book.

I think that people would take more notice of this and relise ther cock ups... like turning into the correct lane.
Then again the arses that think they no beter and own the rd's will still take no notice :brick:

A capital idea.

[pritch]

Actually jimbo, this is one I'm glad to see they are enforcing.

Absolutely! I almost got taken out a few nights ago by a woman in a 4WD who turned right, shot across both lanes and into the petrol station on the same corner. Fuck anybody else.

If they are that stupid they can pay my share of the road tax.
(Said he hopefully...)

[thehollowmen]

I've seen (christchurch or dunedin - can't remember) both sides of the turnings into a two lane one way get green arrows. So many people crossed the lane divisor and hit other cars who also had right of way it wasn't funny. Happened every few hours.

They had to change the signals, even though in theory it should work perfectly.

[Paul in NZ]

They did a little exercise like that in wellie at the Tory st intersection down near te Papa where people coming into town down Aotea Quay were turning right past the Warehouse and then right into Wakefield (I think) and racing across a couple of lane to get to the readings car park. Musta been a crash a day!!!

The warned folks, had a day when the stopped folks and warned em and even suggested going a different way (which I do) and bugger me if it worked (for most people, always a few morons).

Top job sorting this rule!

[Kickaha]

enforcing. The number of crashes and near misses every day in Christchurch because maybe 20% of drivers know this rule.

I doubt the % is that high :lol:,based on personal observation i'd say it's about 5% good on the cops for doing it cause I'm sick of having to give way to arseholes who either ignore or don't know this rule.

Long term though it'll make fuck all difference unless the cops keep doing it on a regular or ongoing basis.

[Ixion]

I never can understand why people cannot grasp this concept. It is perfectly simple in most cases, just follow your lane around. It's just a curved bit of road in effect. And when fools meander across lanes it slows everyone down because it instantly reduces a two lane road to a one lane (etc).

Good on the cops I say, call it a stupidity tax.

[dangerous]

I never can understand why people cannot grasp this concept. It is perfectly simple in most cases, just follow your lane around. It's just a curved bit of road in effect. And when fools meander across lanes it slows everyone down because it instantly reduces a two lane road to a one lane (etc).

Good on the cops I say, call it a stupidity tax.
Its got me buggered too, heres the situation we are talking about... how many here do the right thing?

[spudchucka]

Its got me buggered too, heres the situation we are talking about... how many here do the right thing?
For some strange reason they all seem to remember that rule when there is a cop car behind them. Same as they all wait for the bells to stop at a level crossing before moving on and indicating as you leave a round-a-bout.

Its simply driver apathy or outright ignorance and good on the cops for targeting them.

[Fatjim]

I drive in auckland every day in a truck and i hope they start doing it up hear as well. Its time drivers new the road rules if you were comeing a long in the lane and a cage crossed the lane and hit you are they still w--kers for doing the enforcement of the laws.



thats only my thoughts
gary

Speaking of fucking aucklanders. Walked out of the airport this moring and some fucker almost ran me over on the zebra crossing. Got a kick in on his rear bumper. Then the sod mouthed something at me, so I ran to the end of the crossing which had to go back over and kicked his rear bumper again.

Twat.

[GR81]

Speaking of fucking aucklanders. Walked out of the airport this moring and some fucker almost ran me over on the zebra crossing. Got a kick in on his rear bumper. Then the sod mouthed something at me, so I ran to the end of the crossing which had to go back over and kicked his rear bumper again.
haha... my fav. was when i was walking across a zebra outside the taka cop shop... a car had stopped for me to cross then someone came up behind him and tried to overtake him whilst i was still crossing... :angry2:
... i had just come back from obtaining my firearms licence so i was in a good mood and didnt bother booting his front door! :dodge:

[scumdog]

Gota agree with OMB all the way.

Jimbo, there is a big crack down going on here and beleave it or not Chch has the highest acco records at interections in any city in NZ.... bout fuking time it was sorted.

Now the other big thing they are hitting is amber and red light runners... very bad down here and getting worse by the day... bravo to the piggers for doing something that 'should' help for a change not doing those speeding at 6-9 k over.

IMHO cutting in the path of another car/bike isent a minor thing Jim, can kill ya ya know :)

I agree D. - wouldn't want that shift myself but I bet 'driver awareness' goes through the roof now.

Ch-ch always scares me at intersections, lane awareness and the purpose of orange lights seem to escape most drivers there.

[Finn]

Walked out of the airport this moring and some fucker almost ran me over on the zebra crossing. Got a kick in on his rear bumper. Then the sod mouthed something at me, so I ran to the end of the crossing which had to go back over and kicked his rear bumper again.

Twat.

That person you're calling a fucker was a pilot. He was trying to tell you to get off the fucking runway. While you're in the big smoke perhaps you should get your eyes checked out.

[Skyryder]

Its got me buggered too, heres the situation we are talking about... how many here do the right thing?

I'll put my hand up.

I get pissed off staying in the correct lane and then wanting change into the left lane while a stream of cars coming through the inside and not one letting you change into the left lane.. There were a couple of bus stops situated too close to the intersection. Trying to get onto it at times of heavy traffic was an absoslute bastard. You got abused for going to slow while trying to find a gap or abused because some driver thinks you are trying to cut them off. I'd like them to do the same with compulsary stops. Shit no one here in Christchurch stops, they treat them as the same as giveway signs. Sorry Dangerous we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Skyryder

[gav]

Just started a new job where I travel out to Rangiora and back each day, which involves merging onto and off the motorway. Struck some ignorant 4x4 driver who decided to honk his horn 'cause I pulled out in front of him. I was merging into the traffic, travelling at least as fast if not faster than the main traffic, had indicator on, was rapidly running out of road so pulled across in front, going faster than they were, next minute this dickhead starts tooting his friggen' horn, not like he could've just lifted his foot off the gas if he thought it was a bit tight, noooo, tooot friggen toooot. WTF else was I suppose to do, hit the picks at 100km/h? just keep the Civic nailed on the grass verge or something? Was hoping he'd pull alongside at some lights or something but somehow think he got my, ummm, message. :finger:

[scumdog]

Just started a new job where I travel out to Rangiora and back each day, which involves merging onto and off the motorway. Struck some ignorant 4x4 driver who decided to honk his horn 'cause I pulled out in front of him. I was merging into the traffic, travelling at least as fast if not faster than the main traffic, had indicator on, was rapidly running out of road so pulled across in front, going faster than they were, next minute this dickhead starts tooting his friggen' horn, not like he could've just lifted his foot off the gas if he thought it was a bit tight, noooo, tooot friggen toooot. WTF else was I suppose to do, hit the picks at 100km/h? just keep the Civic nailed on the grass verge or something? Was hoping he'd pull alongside at some lights or something but somehow think he got my, ummm, message. :finger:

Yep, the good old Kiwi ego!

What happened to good old Kiwi courtesy??

Go to the US or a shit-load of other countries and you'll learn a lot about the courtesy bit - they have no time for the ego bit.

[sAsLEX]

he got my, ummm, message
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[dangerous]

Just started a new job where I travel out to Rangiora and back each day, which involves merging onto and off the motorway. Struck some ignorant 4x4 driver who decided to honk his horn 'cause I pulled out in front of him. I was merging into the traffic, travelling at least as fast if not faster than the main traffic, had indicator on, was rapidly running out of road so pulled across in front, going faster than they were, next minute this dickhead starts tooting his friggen' horn, not like he could've just lifted his foot off the gas if he thought it was a bit tight, noooo, tooot friggen toooot. WTF else was I suppose to do, hit the picks at 100km/h? just keep the Civic nailed on the grass verge or something? Was hoping he'd pull alongside at some lights or something but somehow think he got my, ummm, message. :finger:
Yip.. I know the suituation you were in... thats why a lot of traffic drives the 'right' hand lane... including me, it allows those wanting to merge to merge... AND before any of you lot try having a crack at me remember the m/w starts with state H/W1 being in the right lane.
ALSO, there is a merging lane that comes in from the right... this stuffs a lot of people up but its simple... you see a car comming you change lane... so easy :wait:


I'll put my hand up.

I get pissed off staying in the correct lane and then wanting change into the left lane while a stream of cars coming through the inside and not one letting you change into the left lane.. There were a couple of bus stops situated too close to the intersection. Trying to get onto it at times of heavy traffic was an absoslute bastard. You got abused for going to slow while trying to find a gap or abused because some driver thinks you are trying to cut them off. I'd like them to do the same with compulsary stops. Shit no one here in Christchurch stops, they treat them as the same as giveway signs. Sorry Dangerous we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Skyryder
Yip its not often people will let you in... so I slow and hold the traffic up behind me and then cross, ya see altho I hold those up behind me the notice I am trying to change lane and no fuker will let me in... then if theres still no break, the igrnance in me comes out and I just move over stuff em I say its not like its the end of the world.

You are a bad basterd Mr S for not doing the right thing as the way you think just adds to the mahhem and makes the suituation worse... then again thats not much diff to what I do.
Screw em I learnt in Oz that it takes no time out of ya day or life to slow and flash ya lights to let some one in... thats what I do here, pitty half the f/w's are in a day dream and wounder why the hell I'm flashing them :slap:


That person you're calling a fucker was a pilot. He was trying to tell you to get off the fucking runway. While you're in the big smoke perhaps you should get your eyes checked out.
Now thats more like the Finn we like :yes:

[stanko]

Ch-ch always scares me at intersections, lane awareness and the purpose of orange lights seem to escape most drivers there.

What orange lights?

[peripheral]

Very timely thread. Yesterday I was (in the car) waiting to turn right at a T intersection controlled by lights. Once the lights were green I casually entered the intersection (was half way across) only to notice out of the corner of my eye a car on my left. I slowed down as I thought they looked like they weren't going to stop. And sure enough the farker went straight through.

Now if I hadn't seen him he would have collected me and being an 80km/h section of road he was on (travelling at least that) it could have been a nasty accident.

So when I pulled out I caught up to the guy and he gave me a very apologetic look as if to say sorry I didn't see the red light. That just pisses me off even more, so he's driving his car on the road with other road users and can't pay enough attention to see a red light, then he shouldn't be driving on the road.

I *555 'd him and they said they'd note it down against his vehicle whatever that means. Anyway know if you can go further and lay a formal complaint against him and whether it'll do any good (ie will he get a ticket for it)?

I see plenty of people running late amber and early red lights (which annoys me no end), but this was far too close for my liking, he was in an 80km/h zone and the light had been red for plenty of time as I hadn't taken off from the intersection very fast. If I hadn't noticed him and he'd hit me it would have been messy.

People need to pay a whole lot more attention and grow some patience.

[Lou Girardin]

A bloody great idea, there's more chance of us being taken out by some twat with no lane discipline than someone doing 11 k's over the limit. I hope it catches on.

[Lou Girardin]

Yip.. I know the suituation you were in... thats why a lot of traffic drives the 'right' hand lane... including me, it allows those wanting to merge to merge...

What's wrong with using the left lane too, but allowed room for cars to merge? That way you double the capacity of a two lane road. Instead of everyone sitting in the right lane like lemmings.

[Rashika]

For the record there was a big advert in Saturdays press that they are starting a blitz on both of these areas...and DAMN GOOD ON EM! :2thumbsup

Now that I am carless...for a little while, I am 100% either on my pushie or Mbike. Now I am used to fktards in cars not seeing me on the pushie, and always prepared to take evasive action, it is the normal state of 'being' on a pushie.
The last couple of nights I have been doing my usual travel into town for class but now on the motorbike instead....geeez... lets just say I am glad to have a fairly bright headlight.
At 9pm at night, in the space of 3 intersections I had 3 people decide that amber/red was cool to plough on thru... thank god for 6th sense, and the brain I was born with that enables me to anticipate stoopid dicks. I just hope my luck and vigilance continues to hold in regard to that.

I have also found out some more information in regards to the lady killed last week, from a witness to the event.
It seems that a 4wd decided to change lanes to the far right of 2 right turning lanes at the last moment (to head right to the overbridge from Blenheim road for those of you who know the road) and clipped the front wheel of the bike (who just happened to be there, poor fk), which sent the bike onto its side where it slid under a truck.

Now for those of who who bitch about cops enforcing the law, and especially at intersections... reflect on THAT.
I hope the bugger gets well and truely done. :ar15: They have left behind a family without a mom (4 kids I think?), just for their absolute stupidity and ignorance of what is going on around them.

Sorry dudes... RANT over :(

[Ixion]

What's wrong with using the left lane too, but allowed room for cars to merge? That way you double the capacity of a two lane road. Instead of everyone sitting in the right lane like lemmings.
That would be fine if NZ drivers could learn to get up to motorway speed BEFORE merging. Instead of doddering down the merge lane at 40kph and expecting the motorway lane to slow down to 40kph to let them in

[imdying]

I would like to thank TV3 for putting the clip with my boss getting nabbed on their website :lol: :lol:

[Hitcher]

A minor thing and who really knows this shitty little rule anyway.
The Rode Code comprises a whole series of "shitty little rules". But the point here is that vehicle operators seem to have a view that once they have their license they are free to observe the ones they like and disregard the rest. Like optional use of turning indicators, driving with park lights only on, lack of understanding of the right-hand rule at intersections...

This is one reason why all drivers/riders should have to resit written and practical tests every five years.

Fine the shit out of these offenders, and hopefully they and others will learn from the experience, I say!

[Sniper]

Bahahahaha, download it and save it Imdying, bring it out whenever you are in trouble.


Fine the shit out of these offenders, and hopefully they and others will learn from the experience, I say!
That is after they bitch and moan that the police should be out doing real jobs like stopping burglaries, rapes ect. Its bad enough they spend their time trying to save others lives from fucktards who lane change without notice, I mean, wow, cops are never right these days are they?

[Lou Girardin]

That would be fine if NZ drivers could learn to get up to motorway speed BEFORE merging. Instead of doddering down the merge lane at 40kph and expecting the motorway lane to slow down to 40kph to let them in

It's a chicken and egg situation isn't it?
Perhaps they're slowing to try and find a gap to merge into.

[terbang]

This is one reason why all drivers/riders should have to resit written and practical tests every five years.

That long.. ? Amateur pilots have to ravalidate every 2 years and Professional pilots have to jump through the hoops every 6 months.

[Ixion]

It's a chicken and egg situation isn't it?
Perhaps they're slowing to try and find a gap to merge into.


That doesn't work though. They are indeed doing that, but they will never find one. Eventually they get to the end of the merge lane, and STOP!

Common sense says that if you have a lane of traffic moving at (say) 80kph, and you want to join in, then you have far more chance if you too are doing 80kph - or preferably a tad more.

If I am on the motorway and someone is in the merge lane , doing about my speed (whatever it is ) or a bit faster, I can (and do) very easily let them in - just ease off for a moment, let a gap open up, they slot into it (they are doing the same speed as the vehicle in front, so they do not need me to slow down any more), I accelerate back up to speed and we all carry on.

But if I am doing 80kph - as is the rest of the traffic in the lane- and the merger is doing 40, it is far harder to let them in. I have to slow to less than 40kph or I will collect them when they move into the gap. That means hard braking .So everyone behind must also slow . Then the merger has to accelerate up to the speed of the (now disappearing in the distance) traffic ahead. And I have to accelerate back up, and everyone behind. Stop, go, stop, go, stop go. You see why our motorways are chaotic ?

I never have any trouble merging into motorways (or traffic generally) because I always accelerate to a speed GREATER than the traffic flow I am wanting to merge into. Then indicate , position correctly, catch the eye of the driver on my right rear, make it clear I'm moving in, move, let the movement scrub off enough speed for me to match the traffic flow and we're away no delays to anyone.

If you are having trouble merging, you must speed up (scarey as it seems) not slow down. Caveat: As always, do not speed up so much that cannot stop if things really do balls up. Always something in reserve, eh.

[Lou Girardin]

You're right Ixion, I do the same. But then we're special.

[Pixie]

Actually jimbo, this is one I'm glad to see they are enforcing. The number of crashes and near misses every day in Christchurch because maybe 20% of drivers know this rule. Primer example is Moorhouse ave onto Montreal street. Montreal is a 2 lane North bound oneway system, Moorhouse ave a 6 lane two-way road running perpendicular to Montreal. Turning left into Montreal into the closest lane (my lane) I have been abused by drivers turning right in Montreal assuming they can pick andchoose which lane they want. I consider myself a defensive driver (got the certificate!!!) and am well aware what the other driver is up to, however I won't give in, I'll lock their vision and let them know that I am turning into the lane the law allows me to. Sure sometimes it's best to stop, and I do when it's obvious the other driver is blind. And it helps to drive a 2.5 tonne 4x4 as well.

If you are going to drive on the road, know where to put your vehicle.
Too right!
I hate the arseholes that don't keep lane discipline

[madboy]

Person No 1 bitches about Person No 2 not obeying a road rule that Person No 1 thinks is important, while at the same time Person No 1 is happy to disobey the road rule that Person No 2 thinks is important. Who is right? Hmmm... let me reflect on this.

I speed. I lanesplit. I cut up cars. I wheelie. I stoppie. I light the back wheel up in the wet. I get my knee down on public roads.

Does that give me the right to criticise someone else because they don't perform a lane change by the book, or run a red light?

You can argue that running a red can cause an accident. Yes, you're right. You can also argue that speeding can cause an accident. Yes, you're also right.

So who's right?

The person who is right is the one who didn't cause the accident. The person who is wrong is the one who did. It's the circumstances on the day that decides what road rule/s that got broken was the one (or more) that was truly wrong.

Drive/ride to the circumstances. Give the cops a break, at least they're concentrating on a different section of road rules for a change.

[dangerous]

I speed. I lanesplit. I cut up cars. I wheelie. I stoppie. I light the back wheel up in the wet. I get my knee down on public roads.

Does that give me the right to criticise someone else because they don't perform a lane change by the book, or run a red light?
Very odd post... yes it does give you the right... unless you wheelie and shit were there are other rd users about.


That would be fine if NZ drivers could learn to get up to motorway speed BEFORE merging. Instead of doddering down the merge lane at 40kph and expecting the motorway lane to slow down to 40kph to let them in
Bloody good point



I have also found out some more information in regards to the lady killed last week, from a witness to the event.
It seems that a 4wd decided to change lanes to the far right of 2 right turning lanes at the last moment (to head right to the overbridge from Blenheim road for those of you who know the road) and clipped the front wheel of the bike (who just happened to be there, poor fk), which sent the bike onto its side where it slid under a truck.

Now for those of who who bitch about cops enforcing the law, and especially at intersections... reflect on THAT.

Skyryder... now how do you feel about drifting across lanes now?


What's wrong with using the left lane too, but allowed room for cars to merge?
Nothing at all, and if traffic if light I'd be in the left, but your idea is flored... people drive so fuking close to ya bumper these days no one can merge.
now I know you no the rd I was taliking about same as its been for years... but these days its bumper to bumper, and besides why change lanes at every on ramp just to chang back again IMO that gives more chance of say not seeing a bike pull up the side of ya.

[quickbuck]

But surely they could have warned everyone?



They did, it is in the road code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roading designers do not put two lanes on a road just because there are turkeys who can't turn their car (or more likely puddle jumper, if in Auckland) into one lane.

My driving instructor pulled me over when I ventured into the other lane at an intersection on a lesson and gave me the third degree about it (talked about charges of manslaughter if I knocked of a motorcyclist). That was the last time I ever did it! I also became one of those motorcyclists.

[quickbuck]

That person you're calling a fucker was a pilot. He was trying to tell you to get off the fucking runway. While you're in the big smoke perhaps you should get your eyes checked out.

LOL, yeah, the give away was that the zebra crossing was 250ft across!

[Rhino]

Yip.. I know the suituation you were in... thats why a lot of traffic drives the 'right' hand lane... including me, it allows those wanting to merge to merge
When I have been on motorways in Aus, the standard practice is for those in the left lane to move over one lane to the right as they approach a merging on-ramp. It works very well.:yeah:


That would be fine if NZ drivers could learn to get up to motorway speed BEFORE merging. Instead of doddering down the merge lane at 40kph and expecting the motorway lane to slow down to 40kph to let them in
Hear Bloody Hear. Until a few months ago I used to enter the Auckland Southern Motorway at Greenlane, heading South. At least 3 days a week I would get stuck behind some tard doing exactly that.:argh:

[pritch]

I speed. I lanesplit. I cut up cars. I wheelie. I stoppie. I light the back wheel up in the wet. I get my knee down on public roads.

So who's right?



I honestly don't know.

I do think, however, that you just narrowed the field down a little :-)

[dangerous]

When I have been on motorways in Aus, the standard practice is for those in the left lane to move over one lane to the right as they approach a merging on-ramp. It works very well.:yeah:
Yip thats rght, but here people are in there own wee dream world. I lived in Brisie for a while and rode to Sydney a couple a times... the traffic flows so nice, people leting people in, but then with that volum of traffic ya have to cos when it does turn to shit... its a bloody big mess which intrupts hundreds of people so I guess they sooner avoid the suituation by being more curtious.

[Lou Girardin]

Nothing at all, and if traffic if light I'd be in the left, but your idea is flored... people drive so fuking close to ya bumper these days no one can merge.
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Sorry DD this doesn't wash. If you kept a space between you and the vehicle in front, others would be able to merge and it would give you extra space to slow without risking a Liberace from the car behind.

[Jackrat]

I don't have any issues with the cops pushing what some people might call "small stuff" because "WE" are constantly on about crap driving skills and habits in others.
They "da coppers" have to start somewhere,so they start nailing people for what creates heaps of problems.Bloody bout time I reckon.
I've always wanted them to police intersection rules rather than open road speeds.It makes sence because it's at intersections where most accidents happen.As a biker you only have to think about where your most likely to have a blind cunt run you down.
Of course that won't make any sence to the wankers that just like to have a bitch at the cops.But then who cares,their only part timers anyway.

[Rashika]

IMHO we as NZrs just aren't used to large volumes of traffic...we like our own 'space' and seem to think that others are invading it when all they are generally trying to do is merge into the flow of traffic...we dont (yet) understand the messages that people send by flashing their lights, we would prob think it means we are doing something wrong.

I too have driven in the Uk and the USA, heavy traffic is the norm and people do understand that we have to co-operate sometimes in order to get to our destination....letting traffic thru is standard.

I think the message will get thru eventually, but it will take a lot of retraining our drivers.... many years most likely. Seems the only thing we understand is penalties, so it is the only route our police can take... one day maybe we will see the benefits of it...fingers crossed!

[pzkpfw]

Can I ask a question here?

There's a street I use a lot here in Wellington, where two lanes can turn right, into a three lane road.

[I use the left lane and turn into the left lane (gets me to my park later down the road).]

Legally - who goes where?

Cars in both the left and right lane randomly go into the middle lane.

I would think NEITHER should go to the middle lane, as left goes left and right goes right...?

Cheers,

[Pixie]

Yip its not often people will let you in...
Aaaahh young puppy,
They will always let you in.
I learnt,with the aid of a company car,That if you indicate for 15 t0 20 seconds and then slowly move into the lane you wish to occupy,they will make room rather than dent their vehicle.

Although I did have one bloody minded prick end up on the grass verge when he didn't open up a gap.

[Pixie]

The Rode Code comprises a whole series of "shitty little rules". But the point here is that vehicle operators seem to have a view that once they have their license they are free to observe the ones they like and disregard the rest. Like optional use of turning indicators, driving with park lights only on, lack of understanding of the right-hand rule at intersections...

This is one reason why all drivers/riders should have to resit written and practical tests every five years.

Fine the shit out of these offenders, and hopefully they and others will learn from the experience, I say!
This isn't because they forget the regs,therefore resitting tests will have no effect.
The reason the rules are ignored is because the authorities haven't bothered to enforce them.
I often see cop cars doing all these "minor infringements"

[Pixie]

If you are having trouble merging, you must speed up (scarey as it seems) not slow down. Caveat: As always, do not speed up so much that cannot stop if things really do balls up. Always something in reserve, eh.
Actually if the traffic,in general,sped up when three lanes merge into two,there would be no bottlenecks.
Like water going through a nozzle.
But that's utopian and would require drivers to be skilled and awake

[Ixion]

Though if the three lanes are all full, they would have to speed up quite a lot to fit into two. But the point in general is valid, speeding up increases the carrying capacity of the road. Annoyingly, in this situation (3 lanes dropping to two, four to three, two to one), the plonkers do totally the reverse. They slow down! Argggghh.

[ChookThief]

Fair enough mate. Good call. But surely they could have warned everyone? That way they would have achieved what they set out to do and got eddy punch clock public on side too. Most folk are simply unaware of the rule.

A warning would not have been 'big' news and made it to TV and forums such as this. By punishing a few (who were breaking the law) the whole country has been made aware of the problem.

Anyway it was southerners getting the tickets, teach them for calling themselves mainlanders.

[dangerous]

Sorry DD this doesn't wash. If you kept a space between you and the vehicle in front, others would be able to merge and it would give you extra space to slow without risking a Liberace from the car behind.
Yes... and this is what I do most often


Aaaahh young puppy,
They will always let you in.
I learnt,with the aid of a company car,That if you indicate for 15 t0 20 seconds and then slowly move into the lane you wish to occupy,they will make room rather than dent their vehicle.
Ahhh yes sir... and that I do too, well wouldent you drop back if you saw the attaced pic hanging over ya bonnet (cant miss my indercator either)