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Dooly
7th April 2006, 10:42
Gidday, I'd welcome some comments and opinions on this bike.

I'm kind of interested, and it looks wickedly in good nick, once you take off the fairing whatsit and the bags at the rear.

Any ideas on what the engine should be like at 58k, and what, if anything should be coming up for repair, and or is it a good price?

Cheers.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=52020848

Ham
7th April 2006, 13:00
Can't really go wrong with a CB ay, they are pretty bulletproof. I wouldn't be worried about 58,000k's with a big old motor like that...

As long as the motor sounds nice and tight and the gears arn't too "clonky" and not too much play in moving parts it's probably all good :scooter:

Pwalo
7th April 2006, 13:12
I don't know of any problems with that particular model, although the CB750 and 900 model of that vintage had a few cam chain problems. Seemed to be a bug bear of Hondas of this vintage.

This one looks to have been well looked after, but if you've got a friendly bike mechanic it wouldn't hurt to get him to have a quick look.

Otherwise it's the usual. Listen to the bike from a cold start to catch any unusual noises from the engine (cam chain rattle, valves etc), a good look around for any obvious signs of rust or unusual wear, and then a quick ride to check out brakes, gear box, etc.

Just remember it is an older bike and it won't handle (or stop!) like a newer machine. Good luck.

Buster
7th April 2006, 13:13
I think the guy is asking about 1k too much. Nice though.

Dooly
7th April 2006, 13:26
Thanks guys.

Would it be worth say around $3800?

quickbuck
7th April 2006, 18:09
Yeah, I would say $3800 to $4000 at the very most. It is a tricky one, as owners always want more than the buyer is prepaired to pay.

Looks in very good nick though.

Good luck.

Shadows
7th April 2006, 23:14
Fuck! I sold my CB900F for $600 about 12 years ago.
(It passed me at high speed about 5 years ago out in the Wairarapa. That really made my day.)
Admittedly mine wasn't in as good a nick when I sold it but that ain't worth what he wants for it IMO.

moko
8th April 2006, 09:56
They were never sold in the U.K. but the 900 and 750 models were notorious for camchain problems so listen very carefully.Mainly because of this the 900`s go very cheap here and you`d have trouble giving a 750 away.One mag here used to describe the 900 as a "dangerous,top-heavy,self-destructive lorry".....I dont think they were impressed.They use 2 camchains which anyone old enough to remember Honda`s of that age will know is just twice as much trouble.Good 900s here go for equivalent of $4000 dollars top whack for something special to half that for a rough one,cant see that the bigger bike`s worth any more.Looks good but I`d want to see proof of proper maintenance on any Honda of this era.As Pwalo says if you`re not familiar with older Hondas get a mechanic to take a look,the VFR allegedly got gear-driven cams because Honda`s rep got so bad they took a loss on each bike to get their credibility back,couldn`t afford yet another cam-chain disaster to get plastered all over the press.

Bonez
8th April 2006, 17:35
They were never sold in the U.K. but the 900 and 750 models were notorious for camchain problems so listen very carefully.Mainly because of this the 900`s go very cheap here and you`d have trouble giving a 750 away.One mag here used to describe the 900 as a "dangerous,top-heavy,self-destructive lorry".....I dont think they were impressed.They use 2 camchains which anyone old enough to remember Honda`s of that age will know is just twice as much trouble.Good 900s here go for equivalent of $4000 dollars top whack for something special to half that for a rough one,cant see that the bigger bike`s worth any more.Looks good but I`d want to see proof of proper maintenance on any Honda of this era.As Pwalo says if you`re not familiar with older Hondas get a mechanic to take a look,the VFR allegedly got gear-driven cams because Honda`s rep got so bad they took a loss on each bike to get their credibility back,couldn`t afford yet another cam-chain disaster to get plastered all over the press.


Some of the reports where over the top to say the least.
Owned Gerty, a CB750F2C, for 20 years from new. A bit about her here- http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=6072&highlight=cb750fc2
Only engine work was because of a burnt out exhaust valve, set the valve clearances at 5 thou of an inch and it shouldn't be a problem. Replaced a couple of valves, rings, camchains and tensioners at the same time. That was at 52,000kms. Shes now done 125,000kms uses 250mls of oil every 1500 odd thousand kms and still going strong. She rattles but has done so for 10 years and it hasn't gotten any worse. Storm and a few others will varify how well she goes ;)
I intend to get another one and any spares I come across, because you can pick them up for naff all. :2thumbsup

For expert advice see here- http://www.cb1100f.net/

58,000kms on an 1100 is nothing as long as it has had regular mainenance.

paturoa
8th April 2006, 17:47
what you really want is

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-52633720.htm


Much better bike (not that I'm biased at all)

Bonez
8th April 2006, 19:09
what you really want is

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-52633720.htm


Much better bike (not that I'm biased at all)Why is the fuel tap missing?

paturoa
8th April 2006, 19:26
Its there, it is one of the vaccuum types.

Dooly
8th April 2006, 19:30
Thanks again, good reading.

I'm partial to those old CBs.
Might give the bloke a ring and ask some stuff.

Will have a good read on that CB site i think now.

Bonez
8th April 2006, 20:20
Its there, it is one of the vaccuum types.
Chocky fish if you can guess how much I paid for this, 18,000 odd genuine kms when I got it 3 years ago-

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17363&d=1128806492

Only one guess though ;)

Bonez
8th April 2006, 20:47
Thanks again, good reading.

I'm partial to those old CBs.
Might give the bloke a ring and ask some stuff.

Will have a good read on that CB site i think now.
If you ever decide you've had enough of the old 900 I may be able to find a good home for it ;).

paturoa
8th April 2006, 20:54
I had an EX myself many a year ago, red one, bought from the suzi shop down by the railway station. Put a CB250RS fairing and air horns on it. Most fun thing was the digital gear display, I used to do 80ks with pillion passengers and get them to look at it while changing down to 1st gear and back up again.

$6000?

paturoa
8th April 2006, 20:59
NICE ---- looking at the photo some more, mine had round chrome mirrors.

So how much was the dog?

Bonez
8th April 2006, 21:54
NICE ---- looking at the photo some more, mine had round chrome mirrors.

So how much was the dog?He came free.:yeah:

A ride I did on her some time back-
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=7585&highlight=gasaxe

Still looking for a rh side cover for it.

paturoa
8th April 2006, 22:02
Mine had an annoying click from the cams that I never managed to solve. Loved the bike but couldn't keep up the payments (poor uni student) and sold it.

So how much was it? (not the dog)

Bonez
8th April 2006, 22:14
I had an EX myself many a year ago, red one, bought from the suzi shop down by the railway station. Put a CB250RS fairing and air horns on it. Most fun thing was the digital gear display, I used to do 80ks with pillion passengers and get them to look at it while changing down to 1st gear and back up again.

$6000?

Nope. Tried that with a mate as pillion on my old 750EZ. Luckily the back rack was on the back. Nearly lost him. :rofl: Gasaxe definately is not as smooth to ride as Gerty. Gasaxe has more low down bunch than you'd from a 25yo 750 though. Still a few things to sort out on her but I'm in no hurry.

Maybe I should do a comparison thread in the test ride section? A modern old school japper 750 shootout sort of thing ;).

Hope your auction is fruitfull btw.

Bonez
8th April 2006, 22:33
Mine had an annoying click from the cams that I never managed to solve. Loved the bike but couldn't keep up the payments (poor uni student) and sold it.

So how much was it? (not the dog)Wont reveal the exact purchase price as I may sell it shortly to make room for another old dohc CB750. But it owes me 3 grand, which I don't think is too bad.

Cam end float was common, but nothing to worry about. My EZ, which I owned for three years had a top end ticking too but it turned out a burnt out an exhaust valve was the main culpet, at around 50,000kms. Fixed it then flicked the thing off, which I regretted. Only problem I had with it, apart from the odd bolt coming adrift. Still on the original chain and sprockets too-630 ones.

paturoa
8th April 2006, 22:34
I've got a high price on it cos I dont really want to sell it. (my wife is sitting on the couch at the moment and can't see this - shhhhh!)

Bonez
8th April 2006, 22:47
I've got a high price on it cos I dont really want to sell it. (my wife is sitting on the couch at the moment and can't see this - shhhhh!)They sorta become part of the family don't they.
Connies asleep with the grandkids and doesn't know I'm just _ far away from pushing a "buy now" button on Trademe for, in her words, another bloody motocycle :psst:

Insanity_rules
8th April 2006, 22:50
Hondas are usually pretty bullet proof, just keep the servicing up. Cam Chains arent that expensive (bout $600 at the worst)to service so dont be put off. People just dont replace the chains at the right time and ride them till they let go.

Bit dear pricewise bout $3500 is about right.

Motig
9th April 2006, 12:24
Was watching this when it was on previously and have a vague idea that he turned down an offer close to that. Definitely think the buy now is to dear. If you really must have it as it hasn't reached reserve yet you can ring and give him a price which if he accepts he would then have to remove it from auction.Do what I did just keep looking there are bargains out there if your patient

JimO
9th April 2006, 18:42
i would say 2 grand and they chucked the dog in to sweeten the deal:2guns: :2guns:

Dooly
10th April 2006, 08:04
I've decided to not pursue this bike now.

No real reason, just a hunch, or feeling I have.

Thanks for the comments/advice.:spudwave:

Dooly
10th April 2006, 15:06
Reserve was $4500, and the auction went to $4300.

Bonez
10th April 2006, 18:26
I've decided to not pursue this bike now.

No real reason, just a hunch, or feeling I have.

Thanks for the comments/advice.:spudwave:Fare enough. It will be up for auction again no dought. Did you place it on your watch list? Had some real bargains come my way by doing this when auctions do not reach reserve. They go for around $US3500 with that milage so $NZ4500 is reasonable for one that's been well looked after/serviced. Of course the cheaper the better ;).

Dooly
10th April 2006, 20:05
Yep, had it on my watch list.

I have about 8 bikes on there at the moment, mostly trail. A lot is curiosity to see what they go for, but I am also looking to pick up another dirt bike.

I think he'll sell it to the highest bidder at $4300, as he seemed keen for it to go these last few days.

DingDong
10th April 2006, 20:16
I wouldnt pay more than $1500 if its a real good one... its a heap of crap, you can get a much better tourer for $4800 than that:doh: