Question for the police that frequent this board

[Calo]

But open to anyone else who wishes to comment.

How concerned would you be about the prospect of someone with a learner licence (and pretty limited driving experience) driving from Wellington to Auckland accompanied in her first car (a 1989 BMW 320i)? :weird:

[sAsLEX]

If it was someone I knew I would get the accompanying person to drive rather than a learner in a rear wheel drive car assuming they have no experience on the open road nor rear wheel drive.

[Calo]

D'oh! I was supposed to say UNACCOMPANIED.

[Sniper]

Ditto on what sAsLEX said. Give them some tutoring on less crowded roads, but dont let them drive when there is more traffic

EDIT: Bad idea then.

[bugjuice]

pah, I've seen kids in V8s and monstrous 4x4s.. what's a beemer 320?

[sAsLEX]

D'oh! I was supposed to say UNACCOMPANIED.

pretty simple then it is illegal and will cost her $400 if caught and then a stranding depending on the cop

[C_A]

3 series, 2 litre 6 (1990 would be a common shape ike all the wannabe ganstuhs hav at the moment) fairly gutless but mosey on up to respectable seeds etc

begguer that, around 8 hours driving or whatever, and on learners on own.... thats just stupid.

[scumdog]

There are no police that frequent this site.

She leaves herself open to getting a $400 ticket and 25 demerits each time she is stopped by police.:doh:

On another tangent, how would the person who let this learner loose on the roads feel if she never got to her destination and killed herself in a crash (and possibly others) which was due mainly to her lack of experience??

Why does she HAVE to do this journey - and solo? IMHO It is not a good idea.

[Edbear]

If it was someone I knew I would get the accompanying person to drive rather than a learner in a rear wheel drive car assuming they have no experience on the open road nor rear wheel drive.


Funny! That's what we used to say about front wheel drive!

[Whynot]

which was due mainly to her lack of inexperience??

not wanting to be a grammer nazi ..... but i belive this particular bit could use some altering :shifty:

[scumdog]

If it was someone I knew I would get the accompanying person to drive rather than a learner in a rear wheel drive car assuming they have no experience on the open road nor rear wheel drive.

rear wheel/front wheel drive? There is no difference to a learner except they can do a tighter U-turn in the rear whell drive, the technicalities of the two configurations will be lost on somebody with such little driving experience.

[Sniper]

what wrong with rear wheeled drive cars
they are safe as any other drive configuration?

Not to the less experienced who have no sense of control in the event of something going wrong.

[scumdog]

not wanting to be a grammer nazi ..... but i belive this particular bit could use some altering :shifty:

You were too quick, it is already altered, you must have been typing this as I was editing.:Oops:

EDIT: Went back to post and it WASN'T changed - but when I went to 'edit' it was (as per my change). What gives?
BTW It IS changed now.

[Calo]

There are no police that frequent this site.

She leaves herself open to getting a $400 ticket and 25 demerits each time she is stopped by police.:doh:

On another tangent, how would the person who let this learner loose on the roads feel if she never got to her destination and killed herself in a crash (and possibly others) which was due mainly to her inexperience??

Why does she HAVE to do this journey - and solo? IMHO It is not a good idea.

Well, that's just it - no one has let her loose, it's entirely her own decision. I'm just wondering if anything can be done to prevent her from making this trip because I fear for the safety of other road users. Her intentions are all documented on her blog. She seems proud of the fact that in the two or so weeks she's had this car, she's never once been accompanied by a supervisor. She actually crashed the bloody thing doing a u-turn on the night she picked it up!

I've got all her details, full name, DOB and even a pic of her car with the licence plate clearly visible...

[Quasievil]

Well, that's just it - no one has let her loose, it's entirely her own decision. I'm just wondering if anything can be done to prevent her from making this trip because I fear for the safety of other road users. Her intentions are all documented on her blog. She seems proud of the fact that in the two or so weeks she's had this car, she's never once been accompanied by a supervisor. She actually crashed the bloody thing doing a u-turn on the night she picked it up!

I've got all her details, full name, DOB and even a pic of her car with the licence plate clearly visible...

Got a pic of her, if she is hot Im sure you could raise m about 300 bikers to escort her ?

just a thought ?

[Calo]

Got a pic of her, if she is hot Im sure you could raise m about 300 bikers to escort her ?

just a thought ?

Sure...but be warned, it's not a pretty sight (http://thespot.orcon.net.nz/funny/hambeast.jpg). :puke:

What was that you were saying about 300 bikers? :rofl: :killingme

[KLOWN]

what wrong with rear wheeled drive cars
they are safe as any other drive configuration?

There is nothing wrong with them but front wheel drives are more forgiving when you make a mistake. its easier to control understeer then oversteer when your inexperianced. BUT a 320 beemer is gutless and unless she is running slicks when its pissing down with rain its pretty hard to get them out.
It all depends on the driver. Even if you have fuck all experiance if you drive to your ability you should be alright. Not that I condone this, cause i dont. Its more likely that this person will cause someone else to crash then do so herself.

[sAsLEX]

Sure...but be warned, it's not a pretty sight (http://thespot.orcon.net.nz/funny/hambeast.jpg). :puke:



She graces our lovely university in your town mate, aint we lucky!


ps couldnt she just find someone wanting a ride north to accompany?

[Calo]

She graces our lovely university in your town mate, aint we lucky!


ps couldnt she just find someone wanting a ride north to accompany?

Don't be absurd, Liz Shaw does what Liz Shaw wants and everyone else can go to hell! :brick:


I am well aware that there are heaps of other things that you must learn when you are driving before you get your license. I really don't want to go through anymore lessons. I want to get my license by next week because I'm driving up to Auckland - easter time, more cops on the road, I should have my license.

lol, the idiot basically admits she can't drive. :weird:

[madboy]

What's the difference between someone with no experience and a good attitude, and someone with heaps of experience and a bad attitude? Odds on either will very easily get into trouble. Perhaps the experienced one is more likely to get out of the trouble though.

My concern isn't so much the technical experience, it's the stamina. If you're not used to driving long distance, it's a big ask to drive that distance solo. Yeah, so what, we've all done it at one point or another, I'm not saying it's unusual. I'm just saying I don't think it's a good idea for her to do it, as any lapse in concentration WILL be magnified by her lack of technical experience.

[spudchucka]

But open to anyone else who wishes to comment.

How concerned would you be about the prospect of someone with a learner licence (and pretty limited driving experience) driving from Wellington to Auckland accompanied in her first car (a 1989 BMW 320i)? :weird:
If you hold a learners car licence and are accompanied all the way by an appropriate supervisor then where's the problem?

The type of car?

Regardless of the car type its up to you to drive it appropriately and your supervisor to take over if you are out of your depth.

[spudchucka]

D'oh! I was supposed to say UNACCOMPANIED.
In that case you are going to have problems.

[Postie]

i would be very concerned, a 1989 BMW 320i is gonna take for ever to get there, she should try a CBR600F at the very least.

[Lou Girardin]

Who cares?
There's too many morons out there to waste any effort on. You can't save the world, not even on kiwibiker.

[Devil]

There is nothing wrong with them but front wheel drives are more forgiving when you make a mistake. its easier to control understeer then oversteer when your inexperianced.
Woah, i'd dispute that any day of the week ending with a 'y'.

Run into snap oversteer when trying to correct a slide in a front wheel drive with foot off the gas?

Rear wheel drive, much more forgiving. Car slides, take foot off gas, turn into the slide, car stops sliding.

[madboy]

Either way someone with bugger all experience will end up in the bushes or buying a lotto ticket. Even with pretty good driving skills, I've always prefered to push a front driver too hard than a rear driver. Not all rear ends let go progressively, nor come back progressively. Different story once you know the car of course, but she doesn't.

But that's okay, I've seen the nude photos. I'd give her the rodgering of life if I came across her car tits up in the countryside.

[Devil]

But that's okay, I've seen the nude photos. I'd give her the rodgering of life if I came across her car tits up in the countryside.
I feel sick :sick:
quote: "Did she forget to wipe?"

[Swoop]

not wanting to be a grammer nazi ..... but i belive this particular bit could use some altering :shifty:
Grammar.

Did you sit at the back of the class during english lessons???

[sAsLEX]

Don't be absurd, Liz Shaw does what Liz Shaw wants and everyone else can go to hell! :brick:

NWS or safe for general health

http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=25353liz2385.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=465218liz3628.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=130222liz4979.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=355331liz5138.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=901397liz613.jpg

[Sniper]

:puke: you bastard :puke: I thought those were gone forever :puke: Now the nightmares will come back :puke:

[scumdog]

Grammar.

Did you sit at the back of the class during english lessons???

I was too nice to bring that up:D

[thealmightytaco]

NWS or safe for general health

http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=25353liz2385.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=465218liz3628.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=130222liz4979.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=355331liz5138.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics/show.php?img=901397liz613.jpg
Nasty mate, nasty.

Nosty as.

[Madness]

Have you got a picture of her? If she's hot I'll accompany her. I'm now officially on holiday!!!! Wooohoooo:yeah:

[Calo]

Have you got a picture of her? If she's hot I'll accompany her. I'm now officially on holiday!!!! Wooohoooo:yeah:

I guess all the above links weren't clear enough. :rolleyes:

You're gonna regret asking...

[sAsLEX]

Have you got a picture of her? If she's hot I'll accompany her. I'm now officially on holiday!!!! Wooohoooo:yeah:

brave man
NWS
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics...353liz2385.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics...218liz3628.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics...222liz4979.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics...331liz5138.jpg
http://www.freepichosting.info/hpics...1397liz613.jpg

[Aitch]

Assuming that she's an adult, and in control of her faculties, I'd let her go and and accept any consequences of her actions....no-body made KB the learner driver police did they?????
Aunty Helen and her mob do enough nannying for all of us already!

[Lou Girardin]

I really don't know how we older members survived at all. No helmets, no seat belts, drive/ride whatever you wanted, vehicles with brakes that might stop you in the same suburb you applied them in, no TV ads telling we're time bombs or rabid killer home invaders if we do 11 k's over the limit, we are all miracles.

[Storm]

Isnt this what we have Darwin for?

[metric]

Haha.... isn't she the chick who absolutely lost the plot on NZ Idol?

she hates Franky etc

if so, one word:

P S Y C H O

[metric]

whats her blog site? should be an interesting read...