What's your alibi?

[Jantar]

You have just been accused of a serious crime.

Where were you and what were you doing at 7:45 pm on Saturday 9th April 1988?

[paturoa]

One of my kids is about that old

[SwanTiger]

Where were you and what were you doing at 7:45 pm on Saturday 9th April 1988?

In my mummy waiting to be born, beat that, bitch :yeah:

[The Beast]

What i was doing may be incriminating...

[marty]

working at governors tavern

[paturoa]

Am I your dad?

[kickingzebra]

I was 5, and a nerd child. It is a safe bet I was reading, rather than mercilessly slaughtering the children down the road... I'll give you an alibi for fifty bucks...

[SwanTiger]

Am I your dad?

No, I'm not that ugly.

[paturoa]

My other kids are good looking???? maybe .... nah

[The Beast]

Where were you and what were you doing at 7:45 pm on Saturday 9th April 1988?

In the pub mate, having a brew down the local.
Or was it 6 o'clock closing then?
Shit I'm too young for this.

[Keystone19]

I was 18 and it was Easter. Hmm, whatever it was I'm pretty sure it was probably illegal...

[NotaGoth]

Having my nappies changed :eek:

[Shadows]

I have the right to refrain from making a statement.
Prove it was me you bastard!

[Speedy]

i was probly screaming..............5months old an all u dnt realy know y u just are....... may i ask y we need an alibi? hey swanny are u the tall guy who goes through the bp on da motorway occasionly?

[Teflon]

fucking your wife pig

[Maha]

Was living in Rotorua and getting ready for a big night out at the Tower's night club........... most likely started off at the Cobb bar before heading over to the Towers at around 11pm to hear Cairo play...............:drinkup:

[oldrider]

You have just been accused of a serious crime.

Where were you and what were you doing at 7:45 pm on Saturday 9th April 1988?
No problem, I was coaching the local senior rugby team and was at an after match function probably making a speech at about that time and :drinkup: John.

[hazard02]

At the tender age of 12 days i was probably drooling on myself and making incoherent gurgling noises while doing so.

[Indiana_Jones]

Waiting in Romania getting the uprising ready

-Indy

[Timber020]

I was in my parents garage working on my TM400. How can I be sure? Because I was ALWAYS working on that bike.

[Highlander]

You ( :baby: ) guys are making me feel old!! :crybaby:
I can recall where I was living and working at the time, but Keystone tells us it was Easter so I was probably in Gisborne visiting with my folks.

Jantar you haven't found yourself dumped in the crap have you mate? I get the feeling there is a story here :psst: ....

[u4ea]

under age drinking......................think i need an aliby too:gob:

[Motu]

I think I might of been clearing our section,getting ready to build the house,which was finished in august.It was 1002 sq mts of gorse,we weren't allowd to burn it,and I took 17 tandem trailer loads to the tip.It was a very stressfull time,we had just lied and cheated our way into a Housing Corp mortgage (thanks Helen,she was Minister of Housing,and we couldn't of done it without her).We didn't even own the section,it was paid for out of the first progress payment,which was supposed to pay for foundations and building materials.Living on the edge with no money.

[Jackrat]

I was in middlemore hospital enjoying the after glow of having highsided my GS850G,and having the bitch land on top of me at 140kms.
That good enough for ya' officer??
Check YOUR records,you'll find it's all true,,,,,apart from the bit about it being my own stupid fault:slap:

[Sniper]

Fast asleep cause I was about 4

[hXc]

I was just a sparkle in my fathers eye.

[Jantar]

So of the 23 people who have replied, only 3 have been able to an alibi that is verifiable. Those who were babies, or not even born obviously couldn't have been guilty of a crime like rape, but as far as proving their actual whereabouts at the time, even they can't do it.

Most have said things like "I was probably..." or "I think i may have been..." then given accounts that aren't checkable. The ones who have made positive statements like "I was in hospital.." obviously have a good reason to remember where they were, and I made it easier by choosing an easter weekend. In my own case I can say with some confidence, that I was in the bar at the Taupo Gliding Club, but had I have given a date one week earlier, or one week later then i would have no idea where I was or what I was doing.

The whole point of this thread is to show how unfair it is to make accusations of events that have happened 18 years ago. The human memory just isn't that good. That is one of the reasons why the three cops in the Nicholas rape trial had to be aquitted. When it comes down to purely one person's word against another's then memory alone is a poor witness after so many years.

A pity this thread has been moved to PD, but I assume the other Nicholas rape thread will be soon as well.

[hXc]

Cool idea for a thread, Jantar

[kickingzebra]

Demonstrable Proof!! In a thoughtful manner!! Good!!!!!!Greenies!!

[Patrick]

That fella who said he was in Rotovegas getting ready for a big night out... was that Clints alias?.....

[Ixion]

I agree with Mr Jantar. So I've moved it back

[Qkchk]

Sitting at home watching the Dukes of Hazard. I remember the episode, its the one where they jump over the river and write-off the general lee 10 times!

[Maha]

That fella who said he was in Rotovegas getting ready for a big night out... was that Clints alias?.....
Word for word......... straight from the courtroom transcript......BUSTERD

[Lou Girardin]

You have just been accused of a serious crime.

Where were you and what were you doing at 7:45 pm on Saturday 9th April 1988?

Where was the offence?

[Fishy]

I was 10 and was trying to get the 2 sisters across the road naked.

Was trying to copy the photo's from the stack of porn I got caught with when I was 6.

[Two Smoker]

I was 1 and a half.... So i can garuntee i was home and sleeping... Im waiting for someone to say "I wasnt even thought of for the next couple of years" to make me feel old...

[enigma51]

So of the 23 people who have replied, only 3 have been able to an alibi that is verifiable. Those who were babies, or not even born obviously couldn't have been guilty of a crime like rape, but as far as proving their actual whereabouts at the time, even they can't do it.

Most have said things like "I was probably..." or "I think i may have been..." then given accounts that aren't checkable. The ones who have made positive statements like "I was in hospital.." obviously have a good reason to remember where they were, and I made it easier by choosing an easter weekend. In my own case I can say with some confidence, that I was in the bar at the Taupo Gliding Club, but had I have given a date one week earlier, or one week later then i would have no idea where I was or what I was doing.

The whole point of this thread is to show how unfair it is to make accusations of events that have happened 18 years ago. The human memory just isn't that good. That is one of the reasons why the three cops in the Nicholas rape trial had to be aquitted. When it comes down to purely one person's word against another's then memory alone is a poor witness after so many years.

A pity this thread has been moved to PD, but I assume the other Nicholas rape thread will be soon as well.

You have a point but like you said you remember it cause it was significant to you where you where so dont you think it would have been the same for her?

[Jantar]

You have a point but like you said you remember it cause it was significant to you where you where so dont you think it would have been the same for her?

Yes, it may have been for her, but what about the accused? It is almost impossible for their memory to be quite as sharp unless they were in fact guilty and charged with the offense at an early stage. Anything else removes the presumption of innocent until proven guilty.

I am not saying that they are innocent, nor would I say that they are guilty, but I am saying that relying on memory as evidence could not be sufficient to detrmine guilt or innocence.

[enigma51]

Yes, it may have been for her, but what about the accused? It is almost impossible for their memory to be quite as sharp unless they were in fact guilty and charged with the offense at an early stage. Anything else removes the presumption of innocent until proven guilty.

I am not saying that they are innocent, nor would I say that they are guilty, but I am saying that relying on memory as evidence could not be sufficient to detrmine guilt or innocence.

Thats why i say you have a point.

[Smorg]

Masturbating................................

[Rosie]

I've been trying to figure out where I was for every easter of my life, but '88 is a bit hazy. I was 8 and we would have been camping somewhere. Probably with the Nelson 4WD club. Kahurangi lighthouse perhaps. Mum and dad's 4WD photo album would likely show exactly where we were.
Since we were camping, and I wasn't terribly old, I guess I was asleep by 7.45pm.

Interesting thread. Especially being close to easter.

[Colapop]

I was in Wairoa getting pissed. I'd finished basic training and gone home on leave. Then Cyclone Bola hit and I watched the bridge float away. Got a call from my CO wanting to get a sitrep and I thought it was a mate giving me shit. I 'played' along and got him really pissed off when I called him Col. Boolocksworth! Stayed in Wairoa helping to mop up for about 6 months after that. So, yeah I was in Wairoa getting pissed for free!

[Jackrat]

You have a good point here Jantar.
One of the standard dirty tricks lawyers use when questioning a witness in court is "how good would you say your memory is"
When The witness inevitably says "pretty good",the lawyer then tears them a new arsehole by proving just how poor most peoples memory really is.
They normaly only have to ask what was on the news last night,or a similar question to get the point across.
An thus, discredit the witnesses testimony.
I was warned about this and a few other similar things when I did my investigation training in OZ,Plus I've seen it in action,,,,really ugly.

[Dafe]

I was learning about burglary.

I figured that the combination of being a kid and having a labour government meant that there was no better or easier time to start obtaining a few riches.

I was also stockpiling on fish, rice and veges. Coz the Labour led doors to asian immigration were being opened.
Unfortunately for us, a few years later - The Bitch got in and she realised that if she offered a free lifestyle to refugees, that she wouldn't have to get off her ass, as the huge influx of refugees would bust the down down for her.

[sunhuntin]

1988...i was roughly just turned 3....so likely asleep at that time. i dont remember anything from that far back.

[Skyryder]

You have just been accused of a serious crime.

Where were you and what were you doing at 7:45 pm on Saturday 9th April 1988?

Well if I was raping someone I would bloody well know where I wasn't.

What's the point of this post?

Skyryder