How to wheelie, a MUST read.

[White trash]

This is blatantly (with permission sort of) stolen from Custom Fighters (www.customfighters.com) forums and contains the best wheelie advice I've ever read. It makes alot more sense than any of the bullshit I've ever told anyone. (Sorry Boomer) Read and enjoy the practicing.

It was written by f4rider and he deserves a hell of alot of credit for putting it together.



Complete guide for learning basic wheelies the right way
First of all, I learned all of this from my own experience and from the advice of others on this forum. Following this advice won’t keep you from crashing, getting hurt, and breaking stuff; but it will, most likely, help you learn faster while crashing less often than if you figure everything out on your own.

Bike setup for wheelies

Oil: Many bikes will become oil starved when riding long wheelies, and doing 12 o-clock wheelies. Gixxers and cbr 900s ('93-'95 893cc model) are the most notorious for this. To keep the bike from becoming oil starved, either move the oil pickup in the oil pan back, or overfill the oil. Myself and some others on this forum run 1 quart over. Overfilling doesn't seem to cause any problems with hondas, but I have read of problems with gixxers as a result of this. So the best thing for a gixxer would probably be to fix the oil pickup. You can buy modified oil pickups for gixxers from www.stuntex.com .

Gears: For learning, gearing the bike down is unnecessary. Almost every sportbike will wheelie in first gear without any problem (maybe the ex250 is an exception). Also gearing to make second gear come up easier is kind of pointless because it just becomes more like first gear with big sprockets. If it doesn’t wheelie in first gear, it isn’t the bike’s fault. For the most part, gears are unnecessary until you are ready to learn highchairs (on a weak 600), no throttle hand wheelies, and circles.

Tires: When doing high-speed wheelies make sure you have a good rear tire. A tire with a flat spot in the middle can cause wobbles. I learned wheelies on a rear tire that was almost down to the cords in the middle, and it would often wobble like crazy when doing balance point wheelies. A new tire almost completely eliminated that problem. Run the tire pressure lower than stock. For doing wheelies above 20 mph, have the tire pressure between 20 and 30psi. For doing wheelies slower than 20 mph, lower the pressure to between 12 and 20. 18-20 psi makes for a good all around psi. Lower tire pressure makes the wheelie more stable from side to side.

Tip over sensor: Most (or all, I’m not sure) bikes with fuel injection have a tip over sensor. This can cause the bike to shut off when riding wheelies high. This should be disabled. For Hondas this can be done by cutting the wires going into the sensor, connecting the two outer wires, and leaving the middle one hanging. For gixxers, that method doesn’t work. The brass ring in the sensor must be removed, or immobilized with something such as silicone.

Steering Damper: While it isn’t imperative that you have a steering damper for doing wheelies, it might save your ass. If you come down from a wheelie with the front wheel crooked, it could cause a tank slapper. This shouldn’t be a problem, though; if you make sure the front wheel is strait when you put it down.

Exhaust pipe: If learning 12s, the pipe may have to be shortened. The stock pipes on some bikes touch the ground at about the same time as the tail when doing a 12 o-clock wheelie. If the pipe hits the ground, it may cause you to crash. My friend just went down a week ago because of this. The pipe can be shortened by simply cutting a few inches off the end of the pipe, and then re-welding / re-riveting the end of the pipe back on. Short pipes can also be bought from www.starboyz.com.

Cage: In the process of learning to ride wheelies good, you will most likely drop your bike. Crash cages provide the best protection. All of these cages will most likely save you a lot of money if you crash, but none of them will completely protect your bike in every crash. Here is a list of some crash cage websites in no particular order.
MXD cages http://eclipsebusiness.net/mxdcages.com/
Racing 905 Cages http://www.racing905.com
Powers Cages http://www.powersbikeworx.com/
Freestyle Ingenuity Cages http://www.freestyleingenuity.com/
Wicked Crew Extreme Team's Cages http://cantcuffus.com/cages_pics.htm

12 bar: Install a 12 bar if you plan on learning 12s. There was some debate as to whether or not to learn 12s with a 12 bar. I learned 12s with a bar and didn’t have any problems. You just need to be more careful because a bar is less forgiving than plastic. However, I think tail sections cost way too much to smash on purpose. You can buy 12 bars from Racing 905 or Freestyle Ingenuity. They are also pretty simple to build yourself, at a fraction of the cost.

Protection: Wear a helmet, jacket, jeans, and gloves if you don’t want to get messed up.


to be continued.....

[White trash]

.....continued


Before riding wheelies on a bike
If you have access to a quad, a dirt bike, or a fiddy, learn wheelies on that first. What you learn about throttle control and the balance point will help you in learning to ride a wheelie on a bike. If you’re ready to learn on a bike then: 1. Make sure the rear brake works and adjust the lever to a comfortable height. 2. There should be 1in. of play in chain slack. A chain too tight or too loose will wear out the chain and sprockets faster than normal. 3. Make sure there are no cracks in the foot pegs, and make sure all of the bolts are tight.

Speed and riding position for learning wheelies
I recommend that beginners learn wheelies if first gear. It is easier to launch the wheelie in first gear, and there is more engine breaking in first gear. This means that you can ride a wheelie higher without the danger of looping it. It also hurts much less and breaks less stuff when you crash in first gear. For that reason i don't think it is a good idea to do highspeed wheelies until using the brake is second nature. It is also much easier to go from riding out first gear wheelies to second gear wheelies than vice versa. The only downfall to learning wheelies in first vs. seconds is that the wheelie won’t be as smooth. The throttle will feel much more sensitive. I think fifteen mph is a good speed to launch wheelies while learning; any slower and the wheelie may feel unstable to a beginner. I also recommend learning wheelies standing up with the left foot on the passenger peg, and the right foot on the front peg, covering the brake. While it may feel awkward at first to wheelie while standing, it will be easier after you get used to that part. Most people think it is easier to balance and control a wheelie standing up vs. sitting down. It is also easier to launch the wheelie from standing up.

Why clutching wheelies is the best method for launching wheelies
Clutching is by far the best way to get wheelies up, regardless of whether the bike has enough power to power it up. While it does wear out clutch plates a little faster than normal, the difference is not significant. I also have never read about any major problems as the result of the extra tension on the drive train. There are many advantages to clutching wheelies vs. powering wheelies. 1. It allows you to wheelie bikes that don’t have enough power to power it up. 2. You can wheelie at lower rpm’s, and therefore slower speeds. This allows beginners to keep a wheelie up longer, with out being at the balance point. 3. The launch is more predictable. When powering a wheelie up, the front end comes up relatively slow. Then when the front end is about 3 feet off the ground, the front end jumps up very fast under full throttle, making for a scary and unpredictable launch. When clutching up wheelies right, the front jumps up close to the balance point. From there you just play with the throttle to fine adjust the height. After a little practice, clutching becomes very predictable and not frightening at all. 4. All of the pros that I know of clutch every wheelie. You want to be like them don’t you?



to be continued again.....

[White trash]

.....continued a bit more

How to clutch wheelies
There are a couple different methods for clutching wheelies. I prefer the second method.
Method 1: First accelerate with the clutch engaged. Then, with the throttle still opened, pull in the clutch with one finger, to the point where the clutch disengages. With the engine still under throttle, quickly let the clutch back out as the tach is rising.
Method 2: Close the throttle, and then pull the clutch in all the way, with one finger. Then twist the throttle and dump the clutch.
When learning to clutch, only rev up the engine a little bit at first before letting out the clutch. This will give you the feel for clutching. Then gradually increase the rpm’s before dumping the clutch, until the front end jumps up close to the balance point. Reduce the throttle as the front end comes up to the balance point. If it comes up too far, gently push the rear brake to bring the bike back forward. When clutching second and third gear wheelies, the bike may need extra help, depending on what bike it is. If clutching alone doesn’t get the wheelie up, then bounce at the same time. This is done by pushing down on the bike (with your arms and legs) at the same time you open the throttle, and then leaning back slightly when dropping the clutch. I is not a good idea to pull on the bars. Pulling up on the bars may cause the wheelie to come up funny and wobble.


Shifting gears
I don’t recommend shifting gears during a wheelie unless you are good at wheelies, and are able to use the clutch in the process. Otherwise, shifting during wheelies is hard on the transmission. It is also hard on the fork seals if you miss a shift. My advice is to learn to ride wheelies at a constant speed. Then there will be no need to shift.


How to set a wheelie down
When bringing down a wheelie, stay on the throttle until the front end is safely on the ground. If it is necessary to quickly bring down the front end, then close the throttle at first. Then as the front is coming down, open the throttle. In that way you will have a soft landing.

Step by step procedure to launch a wheelie for a beginner
1. Drop the tire pressure to about 15-20psi
2. Put the bike into first gear
3. Go about 15mph
4. Pull in the clutch
5. Rev up the engine a little and drop the clutch
6. Repeat step 5, increasing the rpm’s, until the front end comes up close to the balance point.
7. Reduce the throttle as the front end comes up to the balance point.
8. Cover the rear brake.
9. Stay on the throttle as it comes back down.

Balancing the wheelie from front to back
Balancing front to back is controlled by using the throttle and rear brake. It is a good idea to learn this on a quad, fiddy, or dirtbike first. If the wheelie is in front of the balance point, you must increase your speed to remain at that position. To get the wheelie back to the balance point, you must compensate with more throttle. This is the same, only in reverse, when the wheelie is behind the balance point. When behind the balance point, you must use the engine breaking/ rear brake to bring it forward to the balance point. The balance point is the position of the bike in which it neither has to speed up or slow down to remain at the same position. The height of the balance point is affected mainly by the speed of the wheelie. The faster the wheelie is, the lower the balance point. The balance point is also slightly affected by the weight distribution of the bike and the position of the rider. The object of riding a balanced wheelie is to keep the bike as close as possible to the balance point. This is done by rolling on and off the throttle, and pushing the brake if needed. With practice comes the ability to ride a smooth wheelie with out playing with the throttle/brake much.

Balancing the wheelie from side to side
Balancing sided to side is done by adjusting your body position. It is a good idea to learn this on a dirtbike, bicycle, or fiddy first. When riding wheelies over about 20mph, the bike will balance itself for the most part. It is the slow wheelies that you have to consciously balance side to side. The principle is pretty simple. Quickly lean the same direction as the bike is falling. For example, if the bike is starting to fall to the left, you would quickly lean to the left. This movement would twist the bike towards the left, thereby correcting it.

Preventing / stopping wheelie wobbles
From my experience, I think that high speed wheelie wobbles can be caused by having a squared off rear tire, not being smooth on the throttle, and/or making quick movements. Slow speed wobbles seems to be caused by high rear tire pressure, and/or not keeping the wheelie balanced from side to side.

Steering wheelies
To steer wheelies good, you need to either be at the balance point, or behind the balance point. To steer wheelies which are over about 20mph, you simply slowly lean in the direction you want to turn. However, to turn slow wheelies, you must first make the bike lean in the direction which you want to turn. For example, if you want to turn to the right, first, slowly lean to the right. Then quickly lean a little to the left / twist the handlebars a little to the left. This will cause the bike to start to fall to the right. Then, instead of completely correcting the lean, you keep the bike leaning at that angle. This will cause the bike to turn to the right.

Using the rear brake: Slowing wheelies down / 12s
Wheelies are slowed down by riding the wheelie behind the balance point. This is one of the hardest parts of learning to wheelie, not because of skill, but because of the balls required. To learn how to use the rear brake, you basically need to grow some balls, bring the wheelie up behind the balance point, and tap the brake. Soon this process will become second nature. To slow a wheelie down, you must give the bike enough throttle to get the wheelie behind the balance point. Now if you get scared and push the rear break hard at this point, it will quickly bring the wheelie forward without slowing it down much. To slow it down, you must keep it behind the balance point by gently riding the brake. To 12, you just do the same thing, only you get off the rear break enough to allow the bike to lean back on the tail. Unless you plan on parking a 12, make sure you get back on the brake before the wheelie slows down enough to stall the engine.

Riding slow wheelies
After you get good at slowing down wheelies, then you should be able to ride slow wheelies out. First of all, turn up your idle. I do slow stuff with the idle at 3.5k rpm’s. The high idle allows you to ride slow wheelies much smoother. Be careful, however, when first turning up the idle, because you will have to use the rear brake, when going slow, to keep from looping. When riding slow wheelies with the idle high, with some practice, you should be able to ride the wheelie by using the brake, and only blipping the throttle if the wheelie starts to come down.

Once you have learned all of this, all of the wheelie variations will pretty much be self explanatory.



This should help a number of people out including myself.

[jimbo600]

Jeez too much bollocks for me to digest. I'll just be content with my shiteolah efforts. The only thing my gixxer is starved of when I'm riding is talent.

[The_Dover]

coming soon............


How NOTto wheelie. A 2 part special written for KB by the legend that is The_Dover......

[TonyB]

Two points:
1) Even with cutting and pasting and rapid posting, I'm amazed you got the whole thing up there before Sniper/ Bugjuice or some other KB addict added a post:rockon:
2) Where is the warning about sudden freak gusts of wind???:dodge:

[_Gina_]

I read that right through and it made enough sense to me.
Might even try it one day!!

[boomer]

Best advice... buy a shitter then try!!!!

Managed a couple of medium sized ones and a thousand or so 2 inch's all off the power! The clutch scares me more than Dover

[White trash]

I've learnt more this weekend about wheelies than I have in the past 22 years of riding. All down to my pit bike. Using the tips utilised from f4riders advice, I can now wheel stand at a constant speed (slow) and turn corners.

It takes a really analitical rider to be able to spell out exactly how to do perform any aspect of riding, something I've never been good at.

[GIXser]

Awesome W/T me thinks i need to correct a few things meself" and grow some bigger spuds" the info above certainly helps-- thanks for ya efforts--

[Coyote]

Gah! Too many words!!!

[cowpoos]

Thats good advice thanks WT, hope its sunny tommorow.

That took heaps longer to read than "Just throttle up to 6 grand in first then clutch the fucken thing!" (WT at the stunt day). BTW I tried it and done a few small wheelies. My best ones were not trying, while dragging.
I dunno bro....from what I've seen you got definate potential...get ya arse down here I learn ya...I had mikey out here yesterday [even if he did take my MXer to pirinoa on the road at nite with no helmet...lmfao...he's a twat] he went from moderatly crap to priddy fuck gud in about two hours...knee on the seat stand ups and all...was too chicken to try a high chair though...and I'll supply ya a bike to thrash

[kickingzebra]

Poos, are you saying I can borrow the 750 to wheely and crash on?? Cheers man!! LOL
Choice thread WT, I'll be giving it some death... Might bring the zzr back to life for wheelie practice... It has done a few good ones in its time. Dont care if I asshole that bike.

[Motoracer]

I've learnt more this weekend about wheelies than I have in the past 22 years of riding.

Shit... You must be pretty fukin old then! :whistle:

[Dafe]

Fark mate, you gotta make it easy for the noobies to understand.....

Buy a Gixxer (6 undies or more), Lineup at red light on motorway, When light change green, turn throttle hard and fast - Presto, Wheelie time!

[Dafe]

??? Whatchoo talkin 'bout willis?

In Wellington, Hutt motorway has about five sets of traffic lights on them. Great for hooning from on light changes.
Allows for 2.8 seconds of thrills.
Contributes to keeping traffic flow smooth - Not that you'd know what I mean, living where you do! :Pokey:

Damn, This thread actually has some really good pointers, Cheers WT.

[cowpoos]

Gimmee a coupla weeks, have a few things on at the mo. then i will come down and try and remember how to milk again. you got a rotary or heringbone? then we can wheelie that machine of yours.. wheelied the tractor yet?
herringbone lad....but if you give it a couple weeks we might be dryed off [thank gwad]....and your more than welcome....

and yer....I can wheelie a tractor....and drive one around on three wheels....lol [its a bit dangerous though]

[cowpoos]

Poos, are you saying I can borrow the 750 to wheely and crash on?? Cheers man!! LOL


nope.....talking bout me dirt bikes....lol [I only sound stupid...I'm not really...lol]

[onearmedbandit]

Good post WT, some good bits of advice in there.

[enigma51]

Best advice... buy a shitter then try!!!!

Managed a couple of medium sized ones and a thousand or so 2 inch's all off the power! The clutch scares me more than Dover

Buy a gixxer problem solved! :yes:

[enigma51]

Shit... You must be pretty fukin old then! :whistle:

What you could not tell before his post :gob: :nya:

[Sparky Bills]

I got some stand up wheelies happening on Sunday.
Im soo proud of myself:nya:

[cowpoos]

I got some stand up wheelies happening on Sunday.
Im soo proud of myself:nya:
your still slow though....

[Sparky Bills]

your still slow though....

That may well be the case, but i can do wheelies and you cant:nya:

[2much]

Thanks WT, some great info. It's seems I'm gonna have to train myself to cover and use the rear brake if I want to proceed much further.

Wicked site too, some mean pics in their gallery and alot of good info for a site so young!

[Mental Trousers]

Might bring the zzr back to life for wheelie practice... It has done a few good ones in its time. Dont care if I asshole that bike.

Ring me and I'll head out with you. Could video me, you & whoever else attempting to do some and provide some comic relief.

[bugjuice]

gah!!!! so miss my bike :weep:
I'll be out this weekend in some quiet location I hope, after having a cane..

[Fishy]

gah!!!! so miss my bike :weep:


I know how ya feel buddy.

[GR81]

it sounds so simple on paper!... anyone wanna lend me a shitter to practice on? :D

[PaddyFZ1]

Sounds like i need to get the OLD KDX ('83 vintage) going again. Used to be alright on it till i looped it, in 3rd, as i was falling off the back, the throttle got opened harder. Not a pretty landing:doh:
Didnt try too many after that

Great info, i havent had any problems gettin the front up, just keeping it there. Been to scared to use the clutch.

[cowpoos]

Sounds like i need to get the OLD KDX ('83 vintage) going again. Used to be alright on it till i looped it, in 3rd, as i was falling off the back, the throttle got opened harder. Not a pretty landing:doh:
Didnt try too many after that

Great info, i havent had any problems gettin the front up, just keeping it there. Been to scared to use the clutch.
A four stroke would be better to learn on....

[Matt Bleck]

Cool, thanks for the post WT

[PaddyFZ1]

A four stroke would be better to learn on....
Yeh, and a bike with a back brake that doesnt stick on, and a front brake that works, one with gas in da shock. The old girl need a bit of an overhaul

[Sniper]

Two points:
1) Even with cutting and pasting and rapid posting, I'm amazed you got the whole thing up there before Sniper/ Bugjuice or some other KB addict added a post:rockon:


I was off... :blah:

Awesome advice there, thanks WT

[Jamezo]

Quite helpful indeed. Is there anybody here with experience wheelieing RGs?

I'm sure it's possible, today I had the front a foot off the ground just under 'normal' acceleration in first, slipping it quite quickly and smoothly, completely by accident. I wonder what would happen would I were to make an effort. (The answer, of course, is that I'd likely cock up out of over-thinking it...)

That was the second time ever, and unlike the first, no clutch smell at all!

[White trash]

Mate, I'm not sure what you smelled the first time, but I'll bet you a thousand bucks it wasn't the clutch on an RG150.

[Jamezo]

Mate, I'm not sure what you smelled the first time, but I'll bet you a thousand bucks it wasn't the clutch on an RG150.
Well, that leaves few possibilities!

I didn't shit myself, so it wasn't that.
I don't think the engine did anything it wasn't used to.
I wasn't going past the tinnie house.

So just what IS that smell that seems to be curiously associated with being perhaps a bit heavy handed with the clutch?

[froggyfrenchman]

Wanted. Bike in Hawkes bay that i can thrash and practice some wheelies on.

Will suply beer at the end of session, and you can laugh at me all you want

[White trash]

Well, that leaves few possibilities!

I didn't shit myself, so it wasn't that.
I don't think the engine did anything it wasn't used to.
I wasn't going past the tinnie house.

So just what IS that smell that seems to be curiously associated with being perhaps a bit heavy handed with the clutch?
Dunno. But I'm pretty sure a fully enclosed, wet clutch you wont be able to smell. Could be full'o shit of course...

[poorbastard]

Now to find a good parking area for the weekend

[GIXser]

To be honest, i found it easier to learn on my bike, the one that i actually ride day to day-- not some trailbike, i tried that -- just start slowly make sure there is someone there to help, wheelieing is a total; mental thing" you have to break that barrier" of oohhh fuck,,, that came up quick, and snapping the throttle shut,, practice opening the throttle little by little a little further, now im no expert by any means" just telling ya what i know, and what worked for me, get used ot the sudden lift of the bike first, before anything else, once you can lift the bike easily , even though you slam it down again a millisecond later, walk yourself through the steps, of keeping the throttle open another millisecond longer---
now in saying all this, if you are a complete Moron, and have no sense of balance, or you were fucked or are fucked in anything to do with balance, ie walking-- do not fuckin attempt it , wheeliing is not for you,,

[GR81]

Wanted. Bike in Hawkes bay that i can thrash and practice some wheelies on.
Will suply beer at the end of session, and you can laugh at me all you want
beer at the beginning... make for an interesting afternoon :blip:

[ukbandit]

beer at the beginning... make for an interesting afternoon :blip::laugh: your avatar is so funny its hard to read your posts :rofl: :rofl: :laugh:

[cowpoos]

Wanted. Bike in Hawkes bay that i can thrash and practice some wheelies on.

Will suply beer at the end of session, and you can laugh at me all you want
get ya arse down here then lad...bring me tui...and you can crash my bikes [apart from the gixxer]

[cowpoos]

beer at the beginning... make for an interesting afternoon :blip:
it genrally improves ones balls

[kickingzebra]

it genrally improves ones balls

Thash the cutch durrage,,,HiC...
Helps for getting fired too!! Ha, I'm gonna do it!!

[kiwifruit]

Thanks for the post WT
i find it hard to get my head around clutching it up, even tho i know its "the way"

[White trash]

Here's thething. Untill now, I'd stopped using the clutch. Even though this is how I learned to wheelie. I thought I was better off not using it.

Then I got to wondering how come all the better wheeliers than me WERE using it ie. Death, Larriken and so on. That advice explains it and since using the clutch on the pit bike, I can control the speed of the wheelie alot easier and hold it for longer. Same transfers to the CBR.

[froggyfrenchman]

get ya arse down here then lad...bring me tui...and you can crash my bikes [apart from the gixxer]

I dont know... Waiarapa... with the mother raping and all...
http://www.times-age.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3675556&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=

Well worth a read people

[texmo]

Fuck me that was a good read thanks trashy, can I come aroudn on the pitt bike and try this shit out some time?

[cowpoos]

I dont know... Waiarapa... with the mother raping and all...


for the record my mum lives in hastings....

[White trash]

Fuck me that was a good read thanks trashy, can I come aroudn on the pitt bike and try this shit out some time?
'Course ya can mate. Just let me know when you want, we're normally here.

[DEATH_INC.]

Good stuff WT.
I always think I can explain it, 'till someone asks then I go blank.....
Gotta work on them slow wheelies more, whens the next scared sheep day?

[larriken]

Good stuff WT.
I always think I can explain it, 'till someone asks then I go blank.....
Gotta work on them slow wheelies more, whens the next scared sheep day?

Me too, seems very logical until the words come out and they make no sense at all. Happens abit actually!

[DEATH_INC.]

Lol, I often say words that don't make sense......is this a problem? :doobey:

[kickingzebra]

Presuming the incidence of this is inversely proportional to the amount of blood in you alcohol stream?
LOL

[froggyfrenchman]

Me too, seems very logical until the words come out and they make no sense at all. Happens abit actually!

I can spread the little info that i know and can do. Just cant seem to understand how to get better, hopfully this thread will help. better go practice tomorow

[Jase W]

get ya arse down here then lad...bring me tui...and you can crash my bikes [apart from the gixxer]

oh oh! pick me! pick me! I wanna learn to wheelie without trashing the 636...

(so far can only do baby ones under power in 1st)

[inlinefour]

I read that right through and it made enough sense to me.
Might even try it one day!!

As boomer said get a shitter to practice on. Now where did I put that DRZ again...:Pokey:

[bert_is_evil]

Would an AG100 be alright to learn on? I've been checking out a few on trademe lately for that reason

[ZeroIndex]

i did a huge wheelie today on my fx110.. scared the sh1t out of me.. got it up like 45 degree angle..
never again shall i try doing a wheelie on my work bike *yeah right

[driftn]

Bring me your pitty boy i need to get some time i reckon a few hours with what i now know and ill be giving you the learn again

[cowpoos]

oh oh! pick me! pick me! I wanna learn to wheelie without trashing the 636...

(so far can only do baby ones under power in 1st)
yer next time theres a few coming over for a play...I'll give ya a shout

[Jase W]

Wicked, thanks :niceone:

[UrbanMyth]

nice write up

[VasalineWarrior]

yer next time theres a few coming over for a play...I'll give ya a shout


Yeahhh-whens that party gonna happen that we were talkin about last time we were over? Is my monteiths still there (I know you love it so much) <_<

[Jase W]

Wheeling and a party? i'll be there with bells on. Big ones.

[kickingzebra]

Bring big balls instead of bells, then the wheelies will work better

[ab420]

This is blatantly (with permission sort of) stolen from Custom Fighters forums
HA HA HA HA!!!! That's funny shit! You Kiwi's are great!!! LOL! Our site is down right now :crybaby: Our host was doing some upgrading but we should be back online soon! :rockon: Anyways, that is a great article, so pass it around, its good advice!!!

[Pushbike]

One of my so called mates was just saying how he didn't believe my bike has the guts to do a wheelie.

I'll show him. I'll show him good.

I've gotta learn quick, the only problem is my bike is held together with four different kinds of tape, the springs from inside pens and a shoelace. I'm afraid if I crash it it might fall apart. It's a Yamaha SR185 from the 80s, but it goes good for what it is.

And the more I read these forums the more I realize I don't know jack about bikes. I don't know if I can even call myself a biker. I havn't really done anything to deserve the title. Maybe when I learn to pull an intentional wheelie. I've done a few, but never on purpose.

Or perhaps I'll earn the title by going for a tour of the south island in the middleof winter. I think my dad called that the "brass balls tour".

[The Pastor]

If your bike lacks the power to wheelie you'll have to bounce it then drop the clutch.

[Blacky]

Awesome reading. Have had bikes for years but still remember the wicked gravel rash when I was 16. Never been game since. Think I'll find a beach and give it a crack, thanks man

[scrivy]

One of my so called mates was just saying how he didn't believe my bike has the guts to do a wheelie.

I'll show him. I'll show him good.

I've gotta learn quick, the only problem is my bike is held together with four different kinds of tape, the springs from inside pens and a shoelace. I'm afraid if I crash it it might fall apart. It's a Yamaha SR185 from the 80s, but it goes good for what it is.

And the more I read these forums the more I realize I don't know jack about bikes. I don't know if I can even call myself a biker. I havn't really done anything to deserve the title. Maybe when I learn to pull an intentional wheelie. I've done a few, but never on purpose.

Or perhaps I'll earn the title by going for a tour of the south island in the middleof winter. I think my dad called that the "brass balls tour".

My old mate Neville Stocker wheelied one of those pigs around the whole circuit of Baypark years back - I've even got photos of it somewhere!!
Was such a laugh, who would have thought one of those old things could do that!! Whats more, the throttle cable broke and he had to use the cable!!!!:cool:

[quallman1234]

As boomer said get a shitter to practice on. Now where did I put that DRZ again...:Pokey:

In my garage. :doh:
Front wheel goes up nicely :).

[EZAS]

Will reducing tyre pressure stop the bike from pulling a burnout? The last time I tried to pop it UPonONE (rolling at about 40kmh) it spun up instead of popping up.

I haven't bothered trying another one since.

[ZeroIndex]

Will reducing tyre pressure stop the bike from pulling a burnout? The last time I tried to pop it UPonONE (rolling at about 40kmh) it spun up instead of popping up.

I haven't bothered trying another one since.
Burnouts will happen from time to time... lower tyre pressure will help as there will be more tyre on the road for the bike to try spin. Send a message to Kevmo... cause he's just damn good

[snuffles]

I know this is probably a subject thaty has been doen to death, but I have personally never seen it and i want some help.

How the hell do you do a wheelie?

Right the first one that says a: that dangerous

or b: just get on the back wheel

will get a smack alongside the head.

Can anyone give me a fairly fool proof and hopefully idiot proof set of instructions on how to do this.

It looks easy?????

but is it???????

[vifferman]

Duh.
Use the search function, Dude!
Try this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=28024).

[enigma51]

wheelies are neither big nor clever

[nodrog]

hold it on redline and dump the clutch from a standstill, hold on tight!

[vifferman]

wheelies are neither big nor clever
That's not true!
Big wheelies are big, and if they're executed well, they're clever too. :yes:

[henry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3_Z96lxyUo&feature=related

[vifferman]

hold it on redline and dump the clutch from a standstill, hold on tight!
Huh.
That reminds me of when I was at high school, a lifetime ago. A guy in my class was pestering his older brother for a ride on his bike, and that's the advice he gave him on how to start.
Oh how he did laugh.
Bikes must've been more strongerer then, because he was still laughing even after he extricated his bike from the fence.

[Usarka]

they are dangerous.

[Mikkel]

Wheelies are per definition neither fool nor idiot proof.

Although sometimes they may be proof of an idiot or a fool...

Good luck with it!

[Maha]

hold it on redline and dump the clutch from a standstill, hold on tight!


Tried it but failed and got a thwack on the Helmet for er' on back....:rolleyes:

[nodrog]

Tried it but failed .......

put it in gear knob :Pokey:

[Maha]

put it in gear knob :Pokey:

Thats what the noise was, thought it was the 240 Hornet I wanted to Holeshot....:niceone:

[vifferman]

they are dangerous.
They should ban them, eh?
Or maybe make a law against them.

yeah, that's it: band them AND make a law against them. :yes:

We need more laws. :rolleyes:

[snuffles]

they are dangerous.

As per usual, i am never disappointed in the varied veiws of my many motor cycling colleagues, who feel the need to tell me shit I already know.

I know there stupid and bloody dangerous, but that does not stop me wanting to do one.

I was told riding a bike was stupid and dangerous, but I still bloody do it.

[Usarka]

As per usual, i am never disappointed in the varied veiws of my many motor cycling colleagues, who feel the need to tell me shit I already know.


I just wanted the smack alongside the head. :bleh:

[Deviant Esq]

As has been mentioned before, searching is your friend. Either hop onto our good friend Google (http://www.google.com), or YouTube works nicely in this regard too, and search something along the lines of "How to wheelie". You'll come up with a raft of stuff. Alternatively, there's also a whole heap of stuff in KB's very own Stunt Riding (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56) forum.

[mynameis]

they are dangerous.

Did you want a smack on your head? Or maybe you forgot to put P/T at the end. :laugh:

[Taine]

All this has been interesting reading and a laugh its a shame it stopped in march last year.....
How did you all get on with trying it? Any1 make it past first gear?

[jer66]

Thats some good info man might try it on the pit bike this weekend.
Prob is with it it has no back brakes:doh:

[_Gina_]

All this has been interesting reading and a laugh its a shame it stopped in march last year.....
How did you all get on with trying it? Any1 make it past first gear?
Hey Taine, how are you mate? Don't know if you remember me, Waiuku based and hooked up with you for a couple of rides a year or so ago (Repsol)...?
In answer to your Q), I did!!! Lost my license and bikes not long after, but when I am back on a bike mate, I am back into learning how to wheelie and stunt with the attitude it deserves!

Gina

[Frenchy]

In answer to your Q), I did!!! Lost my license and bikes not long after, but when I am back on a bike mate, I am back into learning how to wheelie and stunt with the attitude it deserves!

Gina

Oh do tell what happened!!! Don't take this the wrong way but its nice to here I'm not the only one getting into the shit!

[Taine]

Hey Gina,
I do remember you very well.... :2thumbsup
WOW bummer I know how you felt as I nearly lost mine xmas before last in Hams.......managed to get out of it with only a fine....I did start a thread about it...

So you still in uku? An I see you have your license back which is great. ALways keen to catch up and go for another ride.
My only problem lately is keeping it on the road lately but the straights down theses ways is all good practice.:calm:
drop me a line when you get another bike or if you riding again....
great to hear from you gina...:beer:



Hey Taine, how are you mate? Don't know if you remember me, Waiuku based and hooked up with you for a couple of rides a year or so ago (Repsol)...?
In answer to your Q), I did!!! Lost my license and bikes not long after, but when I am back on a bike mate, I am back into learning how to wheelie and stunt with the attitude it deserves!

Gina

[Chrislost]

All this has been interesting reading and a laugh its a shame it stopped in march last year.....
How did you all get on with trying it? Any1 make it past first gear?

1, 2, 3, 4, tankslapper.

good fun

[Taine]

1, 2, 3, 4, tankslapper.

good fun

Ouch........:whocares:
keep trying you first have to be a fool to be wise...........:yes::scooter:

[brp]

Hard on ya clutch that wheelie article - mate just gets some decent rev's on in 2nd or 3rd (xr650r) then
releases the throttle - front forks compress and as the forks springs release he pulls on the bars and up it goes ....
Doesn't hang round ..... I'm revving the shite out of my bike to keep up with him

[Madness]

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10mfhalc...

[willytheekid]

..

Now THAT!...is a popo doing a fellow rider a real service! (Rastuscat?...scummy??...Berg???...I hope you guys are taking notes lol)

damn funny vid (And a great wheely!)

[gatch]

Now THAT!...is a popo doing a fellow rider a real service! (Rastuscat?...scummy??...Berg???...I hope you guys are taking notes lol)

damn funny vid (And a great wheely!)

You ORRIBLE little man !

Gold.

[Bonzo]

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10mfhalc...

Haha that's brilliant!

good wheelie vid here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjotp1ZeWwo