hayabusa top speeds?

[ducatilover]

i was just having a "debate" with a mate about how fast a hayabusa can go... i told him they are now limited to around 295kph, but he seems to think he has seen a non-turbo hayabusa doing 350kph..... and then a turbo hayabusa wheelied past it.

now am i right in saying that the amount of power needed to accelerate a hayabusa at those speeds increases so much that at 330kph it takes another 8hp to manage another 1mph?

im fairly sure that i was closer to the truth....
so tell me who was more on to it?:scratch:

[FROSTY]

yea and some fuckwit on tard me is saying bussa did over 420 before being restricted--fuck the tard needs to take his hand off it

[ducatilover]

lol

and another point, doesnt the hayabusa use gearbox speedo? because if thats true than the hayabusa he now claims does 380kph [different hayabusa ofcourse] actaully read that, because by re-gearing it at the back will make it read alot faster wont it?:yes: if the sprocket is smaller or the first sprocket is bigger that is:wait:

[Madness]

http://www.cdd.co.nz/sprint/EastWestSprintResultsNov2005.htm

A recent sprint meeting down this way provided the above results...

Kind of interesting how that extra 100cc achieves s.f.a. I believe one of the Busa's at the event had a significant amount of money spent on it too :moon:

Your mate probably saw exactly what he described, on the internet of course.

[Quasievil]

who cares anyway, old peices of shit, kawasaki ZX1400 is where its at, get into the new century man<_<

[ducatilover]

who cares anyway, old peices of shit, kawasaki ZX1400 is where its at, get into the new century man<_<
you have the winning opinion there:spudwave:

[Qkchk]

who cares anyway, old peices of shit, kawasaki ZX1400 is where its at, get into the new century man<_<
Hey, youre in the same boat as me - no bike at the mo................ dont take ya frustrations out on me 'old' bike :lol:

Becides, I got a R1 cause the ZX1400 looks like a ZX10R that humped with a RF900 :dodge:

[Buster]

Yep the zx14 is very rf900 ish. Freaky really.

[onearmedbandit]

If the video he says he has seen is the one I'm thinking of, it's a GSXR1000 doing short of 300km/h and GR on an unfaired 499hp Hayabusa lifting the front as he accelerates past him.

[Buster]

If the video he says he has seen is the one I'm thinking of, it's a GSXR1000 doing short of 300km/h and GR on an unfaired 499hp Hayabusa lifting the front as he accelerates past him.
Yeah hes on the naked fluro green busa turbo. Shreds the tyre because its damp too.

[ducatilover]

If the video he says he has seen is the one I'm thinking of, it's a GSXR1000 doing short of 300km/h and GR on an unfaired 499hp Hayabusa lifting the front as he accelerates past him.
yeah thats the video i think he means, except the one he "saw" the guy that was passed was doing 350ks easily on a standard busa.

that bike that GR passed was doing 285-290ish and that would have been about 265-275 compensating for mechanicakl error on the speedo?

[Quasievil]

Hey, youre in the same boat as me - no bike at the mo................ dont take ya frustrations out on me 'old' bike :lol:

Becides, I got a R1 cause the ZX1400 looks like a ZX10R that humped with a RF900 :dodge:

What are you on about, just cause it comes with its very own george foreman grill doesnt mean its ugly.

Actually it looks nothing like a RF900, its only one design aspect that you can consider to be similiar but thats about it

[Edbear]

Someone in a previous post reviewed top speeds attained by various bike mags around the world with most standard 'busa's getting to around 305km/h, prior to them being 'voluntarily restricted'. Top measured was 311 in Aus. though someone claimed a genuine 320 in England. It takes a huge amount of power, as demonsrated by AMCN in Aus with a modified bike to reach a genuine 320 or 200mph.

[kickingzebra]

He was looking at the odometer, not the speedo.

[WINJA]

some dude was boasting that his comodore can do 370kmh , looks like its gonna be a race , i think ill put a hundy on myself

[ducatilover]

Someone in a previous post reviewed top speeds attained by various bike mags around the world with most standard 'busa's getting to around 305km/h, prior to them being 'voluntarily restricted'. Top measured was 311 in Aus. though someone claimed a genuine 320 in England. It takes a huge amount of power, as demonsrated by AMCN in Aus with a modified bike to reach a genuine 320 or 200mph.
thanks. bling on its way:yes: :rockon:

[SkOrM]

I thought Suzuki restricted the busa to 186 mph ( 297 kmh)?

[terbang]

They are restricted to just under 300 Kays which is easily removed.
The busa was built to do 200MPH off the factory floor. Though it has been achieved in ideal conditions, prior to restrictions being put in place in the later models, it is not a thing you can really achieve on the street or on any day. The Busa was squarely aimed at Hondas blackbird though Honda have never really truly retaliated. The ZX12R was Kawasaki's answer and with more HP and lighter weight It should have been a winner but it didn't go as fast as the busa (Aerodynamics play a lot at high speed). Perhaps the ZX12 is a better bike and handles better but it didn't have that prestige of 200 MPH (the double Imperial ton). So now the ZX14 which is now arriving on the scene nearly 7 years after the Busa to do the same job or even faster. These are not sport bikes they are flagships of what companies can achieve to help boost sales though they are often called Hyper Tourers as they (well the Busa anyway) do a very nice and effortless job of touring at whatever speed you choose. All that HP is there just to give you a big top end and has disastrous effects on th rear tyres in the twisties though, I am sure as any Busa owner will vouch for, it is a hell of a lot of fun with good comfort.

[bugjuice]

the four main jap manufacturers signed a mutual agreement which said they would all artificially restrict their 'super bikes' to the speed of 300kph [indicated].

To remove the restrictor, it just merely changing a fuse, or the clocks, or the ECU or something or other. Isn't hard. But from the factory, they are restricted to 300kph.

Many car manufacturers thought it wasn't a bad idea, and restricted cages to 240kph (155mph) in pretty much the same way, all regardless of model or where they were released/bought in the world.

[onearmedbandit]

Car manufacturers have been doing it for far longer than the bike industry.

[orangeback]

I am sure as any Busa owner will vouch for, it is a hell of a lot of fun with good comfort.
i see most of the people slaging the hayabusa are riding bikes under half litre ,i think some of you need to ride one of these things ,b4 the shit flows , mine shows 326 on the clock but i'd be curtin like all bikes it probly over reads 10% :scooter:

[Fishy]

I had a 99 model busa reading just over 310 on the speedo (on a closed road of course). Dunno what the actual speed would have been though?

[DEATH_INC.]

My 12 would do 330 on the speedo, In a relativly short distance, which works out to (using the rpm, gearing and tyre diameter) to 310 kph. I only ever raced one busa and ate it on top end.... I had a can, his was stock.
There's a lot of stories circulating around the 12, and performance restrictions just before it was released.....who'd put 35mm od headers on a 1200, what other bike will gain 15+ hp with just a pipe and a little fuel tweaking?

[beyond]

The Busa has been the speed king since it's arrival. The ZX14 has dethroned it and it's taken a long time to do that.

As mentioned above, a standard pre 2001 Busa, non limited, has been clocked under ideal conditions in the UK at 320kmh (198.4 mph)

After that year, all Japanese motorcycle manufacturers, agreed to limit all their fastest bikes to 300kmh (186mph) There is talk of that 'gentlemans'
agreement being dropped, but the problem is the huge amounts of horsepower compared to the speed gains required to get a bike safely over 320kmh. The costs begin to outway the benefit to most and therefore the economics of such a project begin to be seriously considered. i.e. research and development costs over how many sold when you start looking at NZ$ over $30,000 a unit.

The ZX12R, on paper, should have taken the top speed title from the Busa, but the fairings on the Busa have a smaller frontal surface area and in wind tunnel tests, the Busa gave way less drag, which gave it a better top speed.

The Ghostrider videos with the green turboed Busa, shows a GSXR1000 running at about 285-290kmh when the Busa passes on the rear wheel.
Again, there is a motorway clip where the GSXR1000 is sitting on 190kmh and the busa passes on the real wheel at quite a bit more KMH. Estimated top end at that clip for the Busa, would be around 340kmh. That's a Busa turning out 499bhp. A lot of power but very hard to get higher top ends.

A Turbo Busa in Canada was dynoed at 700bhp and some bugger in the USA is working on getting one to 1000bhp. Reliability? Dunno, but I wouldn't want to do the Coro loop on a 1000bhp Busa. The tyre might last for just the section between Kopu to Hikuia and you would want shares in BP. :)

[ManDownUnder]

To remove the restrictor, it just merely changing a fuse, or the clocks, or the ECU or something or other. Isn't hard. But from the factory, they are restricted to 300kph.

My RF's restrictor's a piece of piss to change - I give it to someone lighter for a ride

[Qkchk]

What are you on about, just cause it comes with its very own george foreman grill doesnt mean its ugly.

Actually it looks nothing like a RF900, its only one design aspect that you can consider to be similiar but thats about it
Look at the seat line and the fact its a one-piece seat with pillion strap, the pillion hand-grip on the rear, exhaust same height (evo tho the ZX has 2:p) and who can miss the 'George Foreman Grill' look huh? As soon as I had seen the new pics of the ZX that part really stood out......... but as you say thats the only similarities. Certainly doesnt look the same in the front - by far. :sick:

It will be good to see it in the flesh as pics really dont do bikes any justice.

[Scouse]

It will be good to see it in the flesh as pics really dont do bikes any justice.Theres always exeptions to any rule

[Quasievil]

Look at the seat line and the fact its a one-piece seat with pillion strap, the pillion hand-grip on the rear, exhaust same height (evo tho the ZX has 2:p) and who can miss the 'George Foreman Grill' look huh? As soon as I had seen the new pics of the ZX that part really stood out......... but as you say thats the only similarities. Certainly doesnt look the same in the front - by far. :sick:

It will be good to see it in the flesh as pics really dont do bikes any justice.

Youre clutching at straws, you fainled to mention it has two wheels and a handle bar as well:wait:

The fins in the side are also represented on the mirros and the front forks, the reason is aero dynamics. As mentioned before it takes alot to get abike above the 200mph mark, little things like this help significantly especially with stability at high speed..............its there for a very good reason.:yes:

[imdying]

It's definitely an ugly piece of crap (mind you, so was the RF900 flying saucer), but I could care less... it's a tool, designed to go super fast... that's all the cred it needs in my book :)

The poor old RF stood pretty damn well against the Blades in the likes of Performance Bikes mag test... that too is all the cred they need imho.

[Cajun]

The busa will be the fastest production bike in the world, until someon decides to brake the 'gentlemans' agreement, of 299km/h top speed.

And who ever does will most likley bring the wraith of the rest of the EU down on the whole industry.

Yes the new zx14r as more power than the busa, but in turn it is limited to the 'gentlemens' mark they are easyier enough to get around, but then its not production, since that is meant to be straight ouf of box no mods.

In turn the new busa when its out next year(possible following) will be limited to same speed.

Saying that the busa is a fun bike to ride just mass amounts of tourque, i was spinning the rear wheel at full throttle at 150/160 km/h and the recent drag day in both 2 and 3rd gear. Which is pretty insane if you think about it. And since the long wheel base and weighing in over 200kgs, they are not as twichy as the moden sports bike are, and are nice and smoth, thru the corners, with mass amounts of torque to pull you thru.

The thing with the busa as not changed since it was released 98/99 apart from few tweaks nothing major. just name 'hayabusa' is very well known to people who don't know motorbikes, they know that name like they know name 'harley-davidson'.

Personally would i buy a busa, no its not suit me and my riding style, but they are fun bike to ride, and when father in law has one, i can go 'borrow' when i want to have a play.

[Quasievil]

The busa will be the fastest production bike in the world, until someon decides to brake the 'gentlemans' agreement, of 299km/h top speed.

Was the fastest bike in the world


And who ever does will most likley bring the wraith of the rest of the EU down on the whole industry.

Negative, kawasaki already has with the zxr14

[Edbear]

Was the fastest bike in the world
Negative, kawasaki already has with the zxr14



Listen, Quasi, we're all in anxious suspense, here... How long we gotta wait now?

[Quasievil]

Listen, Quasi, we're all in anxious suspense, here... How long we gotta wait now?

As Of yesterday the bloody things havent even left japn, at Best 3 weeks at worst 6 weeks, using my luck 10 weeks:angry:

[nadroj]

As Of yesterday the bloody things havent even left japn, at Best 3 weeks at worst 6 weeks, using my luck 10 weeks:angry:
We gotta put up with Kwaka dribble that long?

[gav]

Fark sake, the six cylinder Hayabusa due for release soon will probably arrive about when that ZX14 shitter hits land. No one in there right mind is going to buy the Kwak when the six is out, are they?
What six you say? The one Winja posted here....http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=27817

[kickingzebra]

mmm, six cylinder... I often wonder about a monstered triumph triple, v sixerised... maybe a rocket 3 motor... eat shit and die toyota and your 4 litre 6 cylinder hilux...

[Cajun]

Was the fastest bike in the world
They are are limited to 299km/h mate. Haven't you read the reviews?



Negative, kawasaki already has with the zxr14
What you mean by this?

[Quasievil]

Fark sake, the six cylinder Hayabusa due for release soon will probably arrive about when that ZX14 shitter hits land. No one in there right mind is going to buy the Kwak when the six is out, are they?
What six you say? The one Winja posted here....http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=27817


Fuck now thats one ugly mutha fucka !!! gees what are they thinking, whats with that rear ? the styling looks shit.......sorry

[Quasievil]

They are are limited to 299km/h mate. Haven't you read the reviews?

My understanding is they are not limited, the new bus aint either, According to Road and Sport in Hamilton, kawasaki broke the 186 mph agreement, and suzucki has also........apparently



What you mean by this?

Of course the ZXR14 is faster and has the fastest bike crown, do you think kawasaki would go out and make a bike slower, their target was to make a better and faster bike than the 9 year old suzuki relic, why would they have failed

:wait:

[Edbear]

[QUOTE=Cajun]They are are limited to 299km/h mate. Haven't you read the reviews? QUOTE]



Yeah, but Quasi's gonna do the old "snip and tuck" to that pesky little restrictor wire, aren't you Quasi? Then take it to the strip, racetrack, "private road" and .... O' course there'll be someone there with a derestricted 'busa to keep hom honest...? I bet the road testers around the world are chafing at the bit to do a comparo!

[Cajun]

The thing is FASTEST PRODUCTION BIKE which means no snip snip, straight out of box. Which the busa owns, and will until someone decides to brake the 'gentlemens' agreement

I am no way dissing the zx14r it looks like an awsome bike, more hp then the busa lighter, So it should get up to that limiter pretty quickly no doubt.
But in turn i don't think it was wind tunnel designed like the busa, which at high speed it plays a great deal in to hp needed to go faster.

[imdying]

But in turn i don't think it was wind tunnel designed like the busa, which at high speed it plays a great deal in to hp needed to go faster.You don't think they designed a bike fast enough to flip if it catches some air in the wrong place on the fairings, and made for over 300km/h in a wind tunnel? :bash: They design Corollas in wind tunnels ffs.

[DEATH_INC.]

Kawasaki have awesome wind tunnel facilities....they build fighter jets....

[Quasievil]

Kawasaki have awesome wind tunnel facilities....they build fighter jets....

And the best test track in the world by far

[macmotortrimmer]

i been reading what half u guys say u have to own a busa to actually know
the the busa/ its the best bike ive had .just got back from the south island after 4500 klm with no rain had a ball looking forward to the new model busa got 4 of us ready for bulk buy so far from suzuki /looking for total of 10 running michelin power sports tre tryoval yosis lowered and other mods not had any problems with gear box but i dont pussy foot around yes Cajun i do read u posts ( HIS FATHER IN LAW )

[DEATH_INC.]

The thing is FASTEST PRODUCTION BIKE which means no snip snip, straight out of box.
I'll still argue this one, I've seen more writeups where the 12 was faster than the busa.....

[Cajun]

The hayabusa is the fastest production bike in the world. as recorded by the guniness book of records as of 317km/h which = 196.9747 m/h


'Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14: the most powerful and the fastest production motorcycle in history
September 23, 2005 For several years now, the 178bhp Kawasaki ZX12 has had the most horsepower of any production motorcycle, though it has played second fiddle to the 175 bhp Suzuki GSX1300 Hayabusa (named after the Japanese Peregrine falcon, one of the few animals on the planet which can travel at 300km per hour which it does during a dive) because the Hayabusa has a higher top speed – the Suzuki’s aerodynamics enable it to more than make up for the slight horsepower deficit and it has now held the title of the world’s fastest production motorcycle for six years since it launched. The Hayabusa’s top speed as measured by the Guiness Book of Records is 317 km/h. But Kawasaki’s just announced ZX14 company flagship boasts 1400cc, much slipperier aerodynamics and the most horsepower and highest top speed of any production motorcycle EVER! The publicity conscious Kawasaki is keeping mum on the exact figures but the rumours emanating from Japan indicate we are just about to see the world’s first 200bhp production motorcycle.'

Doing some googleing around there is a huge difference in which people say is faster, some mag test put zx12r others put busa on top, but alot of those tests are well bias in some ways.(not all)

As guiness is an indepent of bike mags/bike manfactors, what they have listed is the world record.

'In 2000, the big four manufacturers from Japan made a gentlemen's agreement to limit top-speed to 186 mph on all their motorcycles.' The zx12r was released in 2000, and i am sure at time of release at 2000 the 186 limiter was put on(i could be wrong and it was added in 2001)

http://www.angelfire.com/linux/ldrpg/ <-interesting link

[DEATH_INC.]

The 2000 was unlimited (at least the first ones) but what is interesting is how much slower the production model was compared to the pre-production one, almost 1/2 sec in the quarter. There's a lot of little things on a 12 that could only be there to slow it down, things that no-one chasing hp would have done....
I'd be interested if the guiness guys had both bikes there?
Did anyone else notice that in that liink above the 12 was always faster, with the exception of one where it was the same.....

[Qkchk]

Fark sake, the six cylinder Hayabusa due for release soon will probably arrive about when that ZX14 shitter hits land. No one in there right mind is going to buy the Kwak when the six is out, are they?
What six you say? The one Winja posted here....http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=27817

With the new ZX14 :puke: and this new-shape Hayabusa, can you guys see why I bought a Yamaha? :rofl:

[N4CR]

With the new ZX14 :puke: and this new-shape Hayabusa, can you guys see why I bought a Yamaha? :rofl:

Because the zx14r scares you :lol:
says the 250 rider :/


Only restrictions I heard of on the 12R were inlet boots having notches or raised bits on some models (but benoullis theorum means that increases velocity and decreases pressure.... so you theoretically get more charge into the cylinder..?), some people mentioned cams being changed and some retarding of timing. I'll try dig up the thread somewhere off google.

French model power restrictions http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Information%20Pages/FranceDerestriction/Ninja%20ZX12R%20Full%20Power.htm

Speed limit - muzzy resistor trick (you can diy..)
http://www.zx-12r.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=28565&highlight=restriction


In my opinion the B-Box should be the very first mod you do to a 01-04 ZX-12R. Sure, these bikes can't pull 200mph stock...but they will hit 186-189mph on the dyno. What you can do on the street with a GPS all depends on your size and tuck.

What good is having one of the two Top Speed Kings if it's limited to 186? Shit, if I never wanted to go faster then 180mph I would have got a liter bike and called it a day. 4-5mph might not mean much at 120mph, but when you see 190 on the speedo and it's a close race, you bet your ass those 5mph mean something.

I personally have felt the usefulness of the B-Box on the street. A few months ago a Busa rolled up next to me on the hwy thinking he was tough shit. He did a couple short sprints to show off...but on the 3rd sprint I took the bait and gunned it. Him and I were trading inches from 120-170. At around 180 (indicated) I started to pull away in front. I looked down at my speedo for a millisecond and saw 190...I was still pulling rather hard. (probably because it was only a true 180). Either way, I pulled my tach to just about redline and I started to slow down. I looked behind me once I was down to about 110mph and he was way back. I got back down to 70mph and waiting for him to catch up. He did and we both pulled over to talk. He let off at 188mph (indicated to him by GPS). He told me that he knew he wasn't going to catch me so he let off. But if you ask me...I think he was maxed out.

Had I not had the Box, he would have started to pull on me slowly....and would have soon after won the race. If that was the last time I'd ever have a top speed race, I'd still say it was worth every penny.

03 ZX-12R= $10,999
Akrapovic System= $1,200
Bonneville Box= $89.99
Showing a Busa who's Boss= PRICELESS

off this thread http://www.zx-12r.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25672&highlight=restriction


But then some say the zx12r is not restricted. I guess it's where you go AND what market you buy it from eh?

[Quasievil]

Fark you lot crack me up, well those of you that are hell bent on slagging of the new ZZR14 why well, one , none of you have seen it, Two none of you know anything about the bike, and three it is the fastest bike on the planet and from what I have read a very capable sports bike and touring bike.
Im not getting testy about it, not at all, I do have an open mind, for example right now in my garage I have a Hyabusa, I intend on riding it today, I intend giving it a good ride and I intend on investigating its suitablility for my needs, if it meets them all I will probably buy it.

I believe the ZZR14 will be a better bike, as the 14 was built to be better, Im sure they succeeded, why wouldnt they........and next year when the new busa comes out Im sure that will be a better bike than the 14.

So to all of you closed minded suzuki or nothing worshippers :finger:

you will see me on the best hyper sports bike available on the market, whatever that may be soon

[kickingzebra]

I not closed minded, I'm just right.... LOL

Mind if I come test it too???

[MattRSK]

Check out the latest superbike magazine. A guy has tuned his turbo busa to reach 260mph. Almost 420kmh.

[Qkchk]

Because the zx14r scares you :lol:
says the 250 rider :/

Mate, I just traded my 2005 HAYABUSA on a new R1, so I somehow think that i WOULDN'T be scared of a ZX14......................:finger:

You should know better than that.

[Qkchk]

Fark you lot crack me up, well those of you that are hell bent on slagging of the new ZZR14 why well, one , none of you have seen it, Two none of you know anything about the bike, and three it is the fastest bike on the planet and from what I have read a very capable sports bike and touring bike.
Gees Quasi, you can sure bite ............:bleh:

[metric]

Check out the latest superbike magazine. A guy has tuned his turbo busa to reach 260mph. Almost 420kmh.

online link?

[Qkchk]

you will see me on the best hyper sports bike available on the market, whatever that may be soon


Let's hope that the 'delay of release' is worth it and there's no bugs eh? :ride:

I will be looking forward with anticipation for the GREAT KB RALLY where you can show off your fine stead :2thumbsup

[Quasievil]

roooaaaaarrrrr

[WINJA]

With the new ZX14 :puke: and this new-shape Hayabusa, can you guys see why I bought a Yamaha? :rofl:
CAUSE YOUR JUST A GIRL AND YOU RIDE LIKE A GIRL SO YOU BOUGHT A GIRLS BIKE

[gav]

Tis true, here it is folks, just what we've been waiting for! :no:

[N4CR]

You should know better than that.

Hehehehe 'bite' :P

Nah it does look like a mean machine though. Good to see you going a different way in terms of speed.

[Smorg]

Tis true, here it is folks, just what we've been waiting for! :no:

Dude that is the ugliest fucken thing i have ever seen

[Carldav]

This post raises a very good question: Where, exactly, can we legally test the top speed of our bikes? I see there's been a top speed run around Lower Hutt but where do we find out about these kinds of events (and especially those in the South Island?). It seems the perfect way to put an end to the bullshitting that goes back and forth about speed, and especially given how bad most motorbike speedos are. A couple of friends and me have taken to running our bikes with GPS on them, but the problem is always finding a long and smooth enough road.

[imdying]

but the problem is always finding a long and smooth enough road.wot, like QE2 drive?

[Cajun]

I know of a few roads around for fast runs, we have a special mount to mount gps on triple tree, on the busa,

[T.W.R]

(and especially those in the South Island?).
but the problem is always finding a long and smooth enough road.

MY backyard is the perfect spot :blip: the flying kiwi team even came and used one road, albeit the rougher & more risky of the two ideal roads :yes:

[Carldav]

If you can't post the roads here, send me a PM and tell me. I have a friend who's a motorcycle mechanic (with a tuned ZX12R) that uses the road between Porters Pass and Sheffield to 'test' the bikes he's worked on. But that is a pretty busy, and bumpy, piece of road.

Has anyone ever thought of asking Ngai Tahu if we could hire Wigram for a day? It's not as if anyone is using that runway any more. And it's a mile long. Good for standing KM drags at least.

[imdying]

It's residential now, how close to the runway have they built so far?

[Carldav]

Not at all - yet. The airfield still operates, and they fly things like the DC3 out of there. The development, so far, has been on the other side. But Ngai Tahu does have plans to put houses all over the airfield (1200 properties, apparently). Until they do, we should be thinking about how to hire that long strip of seal. I think that every time I drive past it. Such a waste.

[eddy50]

I have a new K1200S BMW. Maybe not as fast as a Busa but still a GREAT bike to ride and still pulling hard at 285kph.
It would be nice to find a good road to be able to open it right out once I have a few more k's up on it.

[Kickaha]

Until they do, we should be thinking about how to hire that long strip of seal. I think that every time I drive past it. Such a waste.

Flying Kiwi had acess to it to test run the sidecar so it might be possible, I will ask Phil when I see him how he went about it, although it still wont be anywhere near long enough to wind anything but a bucket right out