Xtra's free Internet downgrade

[Grisdale]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that once you have been "Upgraded" you internet goes a hell of a lot slower? I play games online at night they lag like crap now since ive been upgraded :(

[bugjuice]

I got upgraded 2 weeks after my ISP said they would, I then slammed face-first into the last of my 1gb cap.. so now I'm on 64kpbs until I get billed.

whoop-de-fucking-do.

[Grisdale]

hahaha yeah they upgraded the speed but left the small caps so now you can use your cap in 2 hours

[GR81]

they probably allocate their bandwidth now.
more for surfing and less for gaming and leeching.
http://www.orcon.net.nz/help/status/ <- scroll down a lil till you see the pie graph.
you're not really being 'upgraded either' , its more 'sideways-grading' lol

[Smorg]

ISP Pixel megabyte processor download torrent??? Wait upload motherboard

[sAsLEX]

I then slammed face-first into the last of my 1gb cap.. billed.


over 70 gig last month.......prob more this......oh and 55 dollar.......I love having my old plan!

[GR81]

over 70 gig last month.......prob more this......oh and 55 dollar.......I love having my old plan!
who are you with?
they give you no choice but to move to a new plan i thought?

[sAsLEX]

who are you with?
they give you no choice but to move to a new plan i thought?

not telecom, and their current plans aint that flash but I am still on the old no qouta bit, and good speeds as well

[GR81]

im loving downloading at 350kbps but not being capped at 10Gb :(

[WINJA]

bunch of cunts , i was capped 2 days after getting conected , 1 gb is not many porno movies

[Coyote]

I've been upgraded and it's pretty sweet. A typical song takes 1-2 minutes to download. Although after all this hype we've got from telecom, I expected the speed to have been more than doubled

[thehollowmen]

Most of the gaming problems in NZ seems to be caused by the asymetry between upload and download speed.

so by making the gap bigger they just make shit worse.

I can't even update my website any more without manually throttling my download speed.

[Cookie]

[...]so now I'm on 64kpbs until I get billed.

whoop-de-fucking-do.[...]

Same here. It sucks big time. I think they know what impact it will be having.

Bastards. If Auntie Helen can sort this one out, then that will be ONE useful thing she has done this year.

[MOTOXXX]

yea fucking nz isp's.
telstra rang me and told me that national traffic will no longer be charged at 10%. now at full rate.
I asked them what about from cable to cable on your own network as it doesnt cost them anything. they said its still the same.

there all wankers.

[kickingzebra]

I'm starting my own telecommunications company using drawings I stole off Marmoot... all you need to connect to my exchange is a cup, and several metres of string... You may experience quality loss if too far from the exchange....

[ajturbo]

yea fucking nz isp's.
telstra rang me and told me that national traffic will no longer be charged at 10%. now at full rate.
I asked them what about from cable to cable on your own network as it doesnt cost them anything. they said its still the same.

there all wankers.

hey dude.. how's the study going?

thought i would throw this in.. :blip:

[MidnightMike]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that once you have been "Upgraded" you internet goes a hell of a lot slower? I play games online at night they lag like crap now since ive been upgraded :(

What games you playing ???

[GR81]

What games you playing ???
CS from time to time for me.
gr81nz <- add me if you please.

[MidnightMike]

CS from time to time for me.
gr81nz <- add me if you please.

Srry but im usually on Battlefeild 2. :stoogie:

[Mental Trousers]

My free downgrade now disconnects up to 20 times a day during the hours 8:00am - 5:00pm. Old one which ran at half the speed disconnected about once a week.

What shits me is that Telecom are shoving people into the wrong part of their available bandwidth. By upgrading download speeds but limiting how much people can download they've effectively maxed out the peak hour load beyond what it used to be while eliminating virtually all use of the off peak. The vast majority of home users tend to use their internet connections between when they get home from work until they go to bed.

My old connection was a 128k no limits plan. I'd stop downloading during peak hours cos I wouldn't be able to surf etc with the downloads going, then I'd turn them back on when I went to bed. So I was using less bandwidth at peak hours and then using up unused, spare bandwidth when nobody was online.

Someone needs to explain to me how things have improved for me. Now things that I download during peak hours (ie fuck all other than email or viewing webpages) are fractionally faster (I think I can notice the difference but I'm not sure) but I don't get to use the offpeak now. It's improved for the movie/tv/music companies I guess (NOT!! .... btw has anyone heard the latest Tool album called 10,000 days, it's not bad .... apparently) but the price, quality of service and usefulness for me have degraded. Telecom's marketing department earn their salaries eh.

[Grisdale]

What games you playing ???

Warcraft 3 DOTA mostly, a bit of EVE Online, Battle for middle earth 2 and I used to play BF2 till it stopped working, cant be bothered re-installing, I have the expantion for BF2 aswell.

[sAsLEX]

Srry but im usually on Battlefeild 2. :stoogie:

playing BF2 online overwrites the EEPROM of my tv card which is to annoying to warrent playing oftrn, but my wireless connection runs it fine!

[Milky]

haven't they upgraded the speeds but also the number of users that share the same line - I am not sure what the technical term is for that - with the end result that speeds per user are about the same as they were before this 'new era' of broadband.

[sAsLEX]

- I am not sure what the technical term is for that -
misdirection - a good tool for spin doctors et al

[Smorg]

Srry but im usually on Battlefeild 2. :stoogie:

Whats your name on BF2 man? Im Smorg.UponONE....if you play online that is

[Drunken Monkey]

haven't they upgraded the speeds but also the number of users that share the same line - I am not sure what the technical term is for that - with the end result that speeds per user are about the same as they were before this 'new era' of broadband.

Yes, they have gone from 70 subscribers per bundle at 2MB to 120 subscribers per bundle at 3.5MB. What a crock of shite. You'll get better speed when it's quiet, but will be much more exposed to traffic latency during busy times.

[GR81]

Whats your name on BF2 man? Im Smorg.UponONE....if you play online that is
g33k megabyte pixel!
:blah:

[Smorg]

g33k megabyte pixel!
:blah:

Dude BF2 and KB are about the only things i do on the net, as for you....................................:bash:

[GR81]

Dude BF2 and KB are about the only things i do on the net, as for you....................................:bash:
there is nothing wrong with browsing pr0n on a regular basis :)

[MidnightMike]

Dude BF2 and KB are about the only things i do on the net, as for you....................................:bash:

Me too, and trademe. :wari:

[GR81]

Me too, and trademe. :wari:
is there pr0n on trademe? :blip:

[speedpro]

It's all a crock of shit. For my old job I regularly transferred biggish files, up to 1Mb, between PCs using dialup connections. It used to work reasonably quickly. To download a similar size file using the exact same modem on the internet took forever. The problem appeared to be that the download data transfer rate was throttled back. From networking courses (CNE) I know it's possible to prioritise certain types of data and also to throttle back the data speeds depending on certain criteria. Having slow dialup download rates is so good for the (not so) broadband business. It's funny that a broadband connection is soooooo much faster to download the same files, allowing for the faster connection, which indicates that the problem is with the dialup network. You can actually see it happen when you start downloading a file. The data transfer rate jumps to say 40k then drops back to finally settle at about 5k.

My personal opinion is that Telecom is a pack of b a s t a r d s

[Timber020]

OKay so what can we do about this bullshit? Give Ms Gatting a motorcycle escort to work for a few weeks?

[oldrider]

I must have been upgraded, the speed on my broadband is shocking and my quota is over before it begins now:gob: boy I am lucky to be with Xtra.:yes:
They told me I would be, they said I don't have to do anything!
They were right, it doesn't give me time to do anything, on the internet!

[Smorg]

OKay so what can we do about this bullshit? Give Ms Gatting a motorcycle escort to work for a few weeks?

Im meeting the hag today........maybe i should carry a concealed weapon:rockon:

[UrbanMyth]

yes! ive noticed this.They said we would have faster internet but my jetstream has gotten much! slower

[kickingzebra]

Mine varies, sometimes faster (in the day time apparently and super late at night) sometimes slower. At 5:30 6 ish. ah well, instant gratification can't be that good for one.

[GR81]

You can actually see it happen when you start downloading a file. The data transfer rate jumps to say 40k then drops back to finally settle at about 5k.
there is actually a logical reason for this.
it doesnt actually start off fast. it starts downloading normally while you select a filename or file location, once you do that it plays catchup on the download meter... then it settles down.
(i read this somewhere not long ago, makes sense)

[Grisdale]

there is actually a logical reason for this.
it doesnt actually start off fast. it starts downloading normally while you select a filename or file location, once you do that it plays catchup on the download meter... then it settles down.
(i read this somewhere not long ago, makes sense)

Yup thats correct, so if you took 5 mins decideing what to call the file then finally click save you speed will be huge, its one of the great features of windows, I think if you use firefox it should give u the correct speed from the start.

Theres a problem with the international gateway at the moment, my work internet is stuffed, downloading at 6kb/s when it normally peaks around 1.5megabytes/s. They are working to fix the problem now. Also Xtra have reported 8000 people have been effected by the upgrading slowness. If you find your internet is going slow call xtra on 0800 289 987 and log a fault, they will check your lines and send you some info on ways to speed up your connection.

[GR81]

...they will check your lines and send you some info on ways to speed up your connection.
so they are blaming poeples equipment before they blame their own system?
sounds about right from them!

[Smorg]

so they are blaming poeples equipment before they blame their own system?
sounds about right from them!



HOW DARE THEEEE:nono:

[Grisdale]

hahaha yeah that seems to be the telecom way, "The customer is allways wrong"

[MOTOXXX]

hey dude.. how's the study going?

thought i would throw this in.. :blip:

I finished study at the start of the year. Worked through so i could finish early.

im now a systems engineer. the company is realy great and its growing realy fast

[sAsLEX]

Theres a problem with the international gateway at the moment



they will check your lines and send you some info on ways to speed up your connection.

Work connection went down and Orcon was on the phone within a minute explaining that they had seen the prob and it was back up in half an hour, that was some decent service we all thought, then the coffee break conversation went into Telecon slagging, I convinced one more person to go the truely righteous way of having no phone line!


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