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vj paul
21st April 2006, 15:00
Thinking of buying a jap import harley, i have seen a few good deals with low millage, are these bikes assembled in japan, should i steer clear of these imports and just go to a well known bike shop like amps or wellington motorcycles.Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Finn
21st April 2006, 15:14
You should only get an amercian harley. The NZ ones are assembled in Invercargill, Australia - Hobart, Iran - Tehran. Stay away from imports!

The only way to get a genuine harley is to export them. To do this you must first take buy one in the US and then export it to NZ. Do not import them.

Sometimes dealers like AMPS get exported harleys and they are a bit more expensive than the imported ones but are much better.

Scouse
21st April 2006, 15:22
You should only get an amercian harley. The NZ ones are assembled in Invercargill, Australia - Hobart, Iran - Tehran. Stay away from imports!

The only way to get a genuine harley is to export them. To do this you must first take buy one in the US and then export it to NZ. Do not import them.

Sometimes dealers like AMPS get exported harleys and they are a bit more expensive than the imported ones but are much better.Confused the fuck outta me

White trash
21st April 2006, 15:40
Thinking of buying a jap import harley, i have seen a few good deals with low millage, are these bikes assembled in japan, should i steer clear of these imports and just go to a well known bike shop like amps or wellington motorcycles.Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
The majority of WMCCs used HArleys are Jap imports. Go for it. You get exactly the same bike, with fuck all mileage. There's bargains to be had alright.

The beauty of buying a Jap import HD from a reputable dealer, is you know it's been well checked and sorted for vinning.

MSTRS
21st April 2006, 17:14
You should only get an amercian harley. The NZ ones are assembled in Invercargill, Australia - Hobart, Iran - Tehran. Stay away from imports!

The only way to get a genuine harley is to export them. To do this you must first take buy one in the US and then export it to NZ. Do not import them.

Sometimes dealers like AMPS get exported harleys and they are a bit more expensive than the imported ones but are much better.
I always thought that if the product was not made in NZ then it is IMported. No matter where it was originally made/assembled. Was I wrong?

Shadows
22nd April 2006, 02:52
You get what you pay for dude. The thing is the Japs don't really look after them, they just ride them and after a couple of years and then ditch them. Half of them have probably never even had an oil change. Most of the Japs don't have garages and their bikes just get left out in the pollution and acid rain. All of the Jap import bikes I've seen have been pretty corroded and unloved looking, I wouldn't touch one myself.
If you are unfazed by all of that, don't try bringing one in yourself, better to approach a bike shop and let them sort it out for you. The risk is on them if when it arrives it transpires that it has a bent frame or poked motor or something.
All HDs are assembled in America as far as I know. I'd say better to get one imported from there. They have a waiting list for new Harleys (it is actually easier to get an international spec'd one outside the US than to buy one in the US), if they get one they feel privileged and as such will generally look after them reasonably well.

slimjim
22nd April 2006, 09:53
Thinking of buying a jap import harley, i have seen a few good deals with low millage, are these bikes assembled in japan, should i steer clear of these imports and just go to a well known bike shop like amps or wellington motorcycles.Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
bad idea mate,, unless the subframe has hdm stramped on main chassiss, the harley dealership will not stand by any product you fit to it,nor will they stand by the bike ,its a bit like a lada, :angry:

popelli
22nd April 2006, 12:51
You should only get an amercian harley. The NZ ones are assembled in Invercargill


as far as i know the only american bike ever "built" in invercargill was burt munros indian

Hd's are shipped already assembled

Apart from minor differences between specs for various countries the major difference is in the 17 digit vin #, american spec bikes start with a 1 and exported bikes start with a 2

Crasherfromwayback
23rd April 2006, 12:54
bad idea mate,, unless the subframe has hdm stramped on main chassiss, the harley dealership will not stand by any product you fit to it,nor will they stand by the bike ,its a bit like a lada, :angry:
We have both NZ new and Jap import HD's to sell.
They come from the same factory and we offer exactly the same warranty with either.
If it's a nice bike, and the model you want....buy it.
Feel free to get hold of me at WMCC (or just PM me) if you want me to send you an up to date stock list of what we've got, and what's coming soon.
We've just knocked thousands off several good low k bikes.

White trash
23rd April 2006, 18:42
bad idea mate,, unless the subframe has hdm stramped on main chassiss, the harley dealership will not stand by any product you fit to it,nor will they stand by the bike ,its a bit like a lada, :angry:
Bwahahaha, spoken like a true HD owner. Oh wait............

Deano
23rd April 2006, 18:50
Sounds like a contradiction of terms - a Jap Import Harley....LMFAO

What would the purists say ?

cowpoos
23rd April 2006, 21:47
Sounds like a contradiction of terms - a Jap Import Harley....LMFAO

What would the purists say ?
an oxymorn perhaps?....just like "fast honda" LMFAO

selectedgrub
24th April 2006, 09:34
What a load of shit, (Altho I agree on the Japs not caring more for them) Do what that guy from Wellington Motorcycles says, The only diff you'll probaly find is the scoots speedo is in Km's not miles.

Hailwood
24th April 2006, 12:12
well I bought my 03 softail from Wgtn m/cycles just before Christmas....it's a jap import had done 7500kms on it and is in superb condition..Clint did a really good deal for me and it has been a great bike to buy.....if you want on go and see a HD dealer, you can't go wrong..once again thanks Clint

bert_is_evil
24th April 2006, 14:51
I read somewhere once that a lot of HD parts are manufactured in Japan and shipped to USA for assembly - anyone know if that's true?

vs04
24th April 2006, 16:45
Saw a carb for a harley once that had made in japan on it.If it,s made to specs and works the way it shouldthen it,s all good as far as i,m concerned.

Crasherfromwayback
24th April 2006, 16:57
I read somewhere once that a lot of HD parts are manufactured in Japan and shipped to USA for assembly - anyone know if that's true?
Sure is....they have heaps of japanese components on them....that's why they're reliable now!

popelli
24th April 2006, 17:29
I read somewhere once that a lot of HD parts are manufactured in Japan and shipped to USA for assembly - anyone know if that's true?

old news this has been happening since the mid 70's, not only carbs but forks instruments and at one time wheels and cylinder heads

some parts were made in austrailia for a while as well

no different to the new triumphs

they have closed down their weld shop and the triumph frames are made in the far east, so much for being a british bike it is merely assembled in England

Shadows
24th April 2006, 23:02
What a load of shit, (Altho I agree on the Japs not caring more for them) Do what that guy from Wellington Motorcycles says, The only diff you'll probaly find is the scoots speedo is in Km's not miles.

That and I think a couple of other diffs between Yankee spec and International spec might be extra emission bullshit designed for some states, noddy lights, and the headlight reflector directing light to the wrong side.

hooner
26th April 2006, 12:49
why are non harley riders offering advice,harleys arent made in invercargill.more harleys are assembled in japan than america,and are just as good as american assembled bikes,.

buellbabe
26th April 2006, 12:55
I know someone who exports HD's to Japan and also brings cheepies back into the country... and sure some of them have never had an oil-change but some of them have really never been ridden much at all... as with any 2ndhand bike buyer beware...

Finn
27th April 2006, 19:58
Porsche designed the motor for the VROD. I know that for a fact. The unions in the US have ruined their motor industry.

Unionists should all be rounded up and shot. I sure hope none of you pussies are in unions.

XTC
27th April 2006, 20:12
Porsche designed the motor for the VROD. I know that for a fact. The unions in the US have ruined their motor industry.

Unionists should all be rounded up and shot. I sure hope none of you pussies are in unions.
I'm in a union. I work in a large company that is consistantly trying to erode our hard fought for working conditions. Unions rock.

Finn
27th April 2006, 20:47
I'm in a union. I work in a large company that is consistantly trying to erode our hard fought for working conditions. Unions rock.

So you were forced to work for this company right?

Shadows
27th April 2006, 23:02
why are non harley riders offering advice,harleys arent made in invercargill.more harleys are assembled in japan than america,and are just as good as american assembled bikes,.

Not quite the case, but Harleys were the first Japanese manufactured motorcycles, well before the "big four" were even a glimmer in the milkman's [slanted] eye.

Harley copies were manufactured in Japan from around 1935 when tooling and blueprints were licensed to a Jap company. They produced a flathead twin called a Rikuo which was basically a locally produced Harley for the local market. When Harley U.S. brought out the knucklehead in 1936 and they couldn't convince the Japs to buy the licence and tooling for it, and with the increasingly militaristic government there, they pulled out of the arrangement and left the Japs with the flathead design which they used to produce bikes for the Japanese army through WWII. These bikes were produced until the late 1950s mostly for police and other government departments.

XTC
27th April 2006, 23:47
So you were forced to work for this company right?
Probably better than working for you.......

Finn
28th April 2006, 08:15
Probably better than working for you.......

And of course you would know that. Unfortunately, you wouldn't meet the criteria regardless. We don't employ people from Franklin. They're just too thick in the head.

vifferman
28th April 2006, 08:28
The jap import Harleys need a few things done to them sometimes to get them vinned, like different indicators, etc.
Rather than go to Wellington to buy one, go and see Kerry at Motohaus - he's got quite a good selection of Harleys in stock, and at very good prices, and more coming in all the time.

Ixion
28th April 2006, 09:59
Porsche designed the motor for the VROD. I know that for a fact. The unions in the US have ruined their motor industry.

Unionists should all be rounded up and shot. I sure hope none of you pussies are in unions.
Alas, vain hope. Not only in a union, in the past I put in many years as a delegate (shop steward for pommie types).

Unions are good. They protect the interests of ordinary working people from exploitation by capitalists . I hope none of you pussies is a capitalist?

If you're not in a union - join one. Anyone (including managers) can join Unite. If you are in a union - get involved. Ask questions. Make suggestions VOTE.

More likelihood of the unionists doing the rounding up and shooting BTW. Communists don't have the same fear of politcal correctness. (BTW , if you are a Communist or aspire to be - good on ya, but don't tell them that when you join the union. Until the revolution , keep it within the 'family')

Finn
28th April 2006, 10:12
Unions are good. They protect the interests of ordinary working people from exploitation by capitalists . I hope none of you pussies is a capitalist?


Ah but Ixion, Capitlism will always win in the end. Alway has and always will. There was talk in a department of my company of joining a union. I said fine, but then of course I'd have to put them all on minimum wage, take their stereo, phones, pool table, extended breaks, christmas bonuses and pizza on fridays away.

Gotta go now, got a slacker to fire... He's married with 4 children. Oh well, you guys will be picking up the tab for this one.

vj paul
28th April 2006, 21:46
go and see Kerry at Motohaus - he's got quite a good selection of Harleys in stock, and at very good prices, and more coming in all the time.
Seen a couple on trademe that he was selling so went an had a look,got there and he said it had been sold, but it was still on trademe for sale.So went home checked the auction again and it was still there a couple of days later email him and he said it was still there.Wast my time.

Ixion
28th April 2006, 21:58
Ah but Ixion, Capitlism will always win in the end. ,,

Ah, do y' tell me so, now. Strange though, so many people here complaining about Helen Clark and her *Socialist* government ('tis not really socialist, mind, a real socialist government they wouldn't be complaining. About anything). Still , doesn't *quite* sound as if capitalism has all the running?

BTW do you know the latest sneaky trick the unions have? Almost worthy of communism this. You can belong to the union - AND YOUR EMPLOYER DOESN'T KNOW. Until he tries to pulls some shit, and then the union comes in firing from the hip. Your staff might all be union members for all you know. Maybe they decided to join the union and just not tell you, and keep the pool tables and such as well.

XTC
28th April 2006, 22:47
..............

popelli
29th April 2006, 06:57
BTW do you know the latest sneaky trick the unions have? Almost worthy of communism this. You can belong to the union - AND YOUR EMPLOYER DOESN'T KNOW. .


why should the employer know, its none of their business, whether you use a union or hire expert legal advice to sort problems out

employers have nothing to worry about if they are on the straight and level,

if they are not then they can expect employees to look after their interests as best they can

unions only thrive when management are not up to scratch

R1madness
29th April 2006, 10:33
If anyone is serious about Harley Imports i can help. We have access to a good range of used Harley Davidson imports at better than retail prices. Finance and insurance is also available to approved purchasers.
No we do not have them "on the floor", we purchase to order to keep costs down. That way we can pass on the savings.
Regards
Ian
Just Motorcycles
165 Bowhill Rd
New Brighton
Christchurch
ph (03) 9823665

Hailwood
29th April 2006, 19:40
Glad to see this thread is back on topic again....Finn, Ixion and all maybe a suggestion would be to take your socialist union diatribe to a more appropriate forum...someone was asking for some advice on buying a imported Harley..sorry not wishing to bag anyone but it seems that the threads have a habit of being hijacked and losing the point totally and (maybe I am the only one) but it sure as hell gets annoying..anyway rant over..have a good one

selectedgrub
30th April 2006, 09:52
Yeah, I agree. One reason I don't come to this site much.
What has this dribble got to do with Imported Harleys?
I've seen most topics go way off subject and sometimes just can't be bothered.

ezyrida
1st May 2006, 15:12
why would ya buy a jap import, nz new harleys are so cheap and have good options. I had a mate buy a jap import and it was a dog, he sold it then brought a usa import, that was worse, had a bent frame. Those import bikes dont have the same power, because they are speced up for differnt countries. Stop fucking around, and get a new one, or get a 2nd hand one here in NZ. 2006 Harleys are good value, if ya gunna get a jap import, then you may as well go buy a intruder.....

Finn
2nd May 2006, 16:01
Glad to see this thread is back on topic again....Finn, Ixion and all maybe a suggestion would be to take your socialist union diatribe to a more appropriate forum...someone was asking for some advice on buying a imported Harley..sorry not wishing to bag anyone but it seems that the threads have a habit of being hijacked and losing the point totally and (maybe I am the only one) but it sure as hell gets annoying..anyway rant over..have a good one

You wait till Ixion see's this post. He's a moderator you crazy fool. You better appologise and quick. I once criticised his communist views and I was banned for 6 months and had to pay him $100 fine.

The_Dover
2nd May 2006, 16:23
I hear Texmo is looking for someone to join his civil union.

R1madness
5th May 2006, 12:46
Not all importers and import dealers are dodgy. Some of us are here for the long hall and will stand behind our bikes. If anyone ever brought a bike off me that had i problem i would sort it pronto. Repeat business is my game, not ripping other people off.
When you are checking out an import ask lots of questions. Where is it from (Japan or USA or Europe)? Is it a Full power model? Has it been crashed and repaired? etc. Ride the bike for an hour or more before deciding. Get used to how it feels. Then try another bike of the same model from the same place, or somewhere else if they dont have another one for you to compare against, so you can satisfy yourself its not a dog.
Then before you hand over the reddys get a mate to come look it over as well. Its hard to be objective when you want something badly.
Regards
Ian


why would ya buy a jap import, nz new harleys are so cheap and have good options. I had a mate buy a jap import and it was a dog, he sold it then brought a usa import, that was worse, had a bent frame. Those import bikes dont have the same power, because they are speced up for differnt countries. Stop fucking around, and get a new one, or get a 2nd hand one here in NZ. 2006 Harleys are good value, if ya gunna get a jap import, then you may as well go buy a intruder.....

HenryDorsetCase
5th May 2006, 14:18
Glad to see this thread is back on topic again....Finn, Ixion and all maybe a suggestion would be to take your socialist union diatribe to a more appropriate forum...someone was asking for some advice on buying a imported Harley..sorry not wishing to bag anyone but it seems that the threads have a habit of being hijacked and losing the point totally and (maybe I am the only one) but it sure as hell gets annoying..anyway rant over..have a good one

I just want to say I particularly like your signature.

Hailwood
6th May 2006, 21:14
Cheers Henry :yes:

Finn
8th May 2006, 11:08
employers have nothing to worry about if they are on the straight and level


Wrong. This country has produced a bunch of slackers that know how to milk the system. The employment laws and rules heavily favours the employees. Like most laws, they are passed for the minority of arseholes but effects all of us. So even if you do well by employees, there's always going to be a hand full that'll try it on.

Once such arsehole took me on last year and we won and have been awarded significant costs. He has no money but does have a house...:rolleyes:

rok-the-boat
22nd May 2006, 22:07
I got my Harley in Korea. Before that it came from the US, where they all come from. Sure there are good ones and bad ones - if you are smart you'll get a good one; if smarter, you get a dud for a bargain and fix it up yourself.

Lou Girardin
23rd May 2006, 16:51
Then there's the guy who bought an import Lowrider.
Except it wasn't, just a plain old '90's FXD. Plus he paid within $3k of a 2002 Lowrider we had in stock.
He's a bit miffed right now.

nooka
24th May 2006, 12:45
Hi there, I am a new user and would like to find out the names of the dealers who import Harley's in Christchurch. Any pointers would be appreciated.

Shadows
24th May 2006, 22:41
Hi there, I am a new user and would like to find out the names of the dealers who import Harley's in Christchurch. Any pointers would be appreciated.

I think Christchurch Motorcycles do a bit of that. 03 349 2437.
Looks like another outfit has just started called Nippon Direct Wholesale. None of those three words inspire confidence with me though!