Crazy water cooling idea

[IronicCapers]

Looking at doing some mods for a fxr150. Its oil cooled and i was wondering if its possible to actually set up a water cooling system as well? Would it give any additional power, actually be worth it or bike won't perform as well with one?

[Edbear]

Looking at doing some mods for a fxr150. Its oil cooled and i was wondering if its possible to actually set up a water cooling system as well? Would it give any additional power, actually be worth it or bike won't perform as well with one?




Apart from riding in the rain there's not much you can do with your FXR150.

[DEATH_INC.]

Waaaaay back in the early 80's guys usta weld waterjackets on to air cooled mx bikes......helps stop power fade as they get hot. Lotta work though....and they usually ran no pump, just used the thermosyphon to circulate the water....

[Motu]

Is the bike overheating? Fix the cause first.The manufacturer though pretty hard about the cooling,I doubt you could make a better job of it.They are not oil cooled,they just use the oil to transfer some heat - all 4 strokes do that,they just thought a bit harder on where to send the oil for heat transfer duties.

For that matter,water cooled bikes aren't watercooled either,they are indirectly aircooled,using the water to transfer heat from engine to air.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Motu. They are 'oil cooled'

the oil runs through a small oil radiator at the front of the bike.

And regarding to water cooled.

Does the water not 'cool' the engine first, then disapate the heeat into the air to go back and 'cool' the engine again??

[Sketchy_Racer]

but no need to water cool a FXR... they just dont make the heat

[Motu]

Motu. They are 'oil cooled'

the oil runs through a small oil radiator at the front of the bike.

And regarding to water cooled.

Does the water not 'cool' the engine first, then disapate the heeat into the air to go back and 'cool' the engine again??

The correct terms are - direct aircooled (motorcycle with fins)...indirect aircooled (water with surface air radiator)....direct water cooled (boat with sea or lake water cooling,industrial with mains)....indirect water cooling (boat or industrial using a heatexchanger to sea or mains).A lot of engines using all of the above for cooling will also have some means of oil cooling using the same methods,Suzuki just took it a step further and put more duties to the oil for heat transfer...but it's still direct air cooled.

[kickingzebra]

Sounds like it might be extra weight, no performance gain, Might help efficiency a little bit though?
My one never overheated or anywhere near it though.
I always wanted to turbocharge that sucker...

[Sketchy_Racer]

The correct terms are - direct aircooled (motorcycle with fins)...indirect aircooled (water with surface air radiator)....direct water cooled (boat with sea or lake water cooling,industrial with mains)....indirect water cooling (boat or industrial using a heatexchanger to sea or mains).A lot of engines using all of the above for cooling will also have some means of oil cooling using the same methods,Suzuki just took it a step further and put more duties to the oil for heat transfer...but it's still direct air cooled.


Okay... you win geezer :bleh: :laugh: :stupid:

[IronicCapers]

yeah i know all the little things about engines like cooling (being a studying apprentice) i was jus wondering if it was plausible idea

[wendigo]

yeah i know all the little things about engines like cooling (being a studying apprentice) i was jus wondering if it was plausible idea

"No"

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[IronicCapers]

"No"

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Somebody give this guy some reputation points cause im luvn the directness.

[B-rad]

Probably better to try and free up the intake system. :)

[kickingzebra]

They wheelie well anyways... Nitrous I say!!

[vtec]

The suzuki FXR 150 is always going to be a Suzuki FXR150. I'm actually quite a fan of this bike. Love the fact that it can do everything, while running on the smell of a wet fart.

No point whatsoever modifying it. This is the kind of bike where you stick to the idea of "if it ain't broke, then don't fix it".

If you modify it, it will cost you in other places, like worse gas mileage, and it might lose some of it nearly non-existant low and midrange. This bike in it's standard form is one of the very best at doing what it does best: Getting you round really cheap, reliably, while still being plenty of fun. Base any changes around keeping all three of those properties.

In my opinion, a water cooling system is way to much effort to go. I don't think there would be any benefits. Might just cause your engine to take longer to warm up which isn't that good. Also might prevent your engine reaching a proper operating temperature. The fact that these bikes don't burn much fuel means that they don't put out a lot of heat energy, so if you go chucking on a water cooler, it might never warm up.

[IronicCapers]

Yeah i aint actually got one yet cause im still deciding(and saving) but Looking at doing some economy/sports mods. I want to be able to press a button and switch between to settings.

Although its gona be annoying without a computer and injectors. If i could find a reprogramable ignition timer or sumting with 2 programable setting.. getting to ahead to fast i guess.

Love going hard but on the motorways in the morning dont really want to av to be clutching cause all the power is up there and not down in the real worldof day 2 day riding.

Got $2000 to spend on a economical bike (sports/naked sports/sports touring)
Interested in pimping and mods that do interesting things that could be marketable to the bikers market.

[imdying]

yeah i know all the little things about engines like cooling (being a studying apprentice)Really? Cause even asking that shows a lack of basic understanding...

[IronicCapers]

Ahahahahaha hmmmmm mayb hes rite. Just throwing an idea out there wanted to get a few opinions. :stupid:

[Ixion]

Der Uberfarter vin Klunken does exactly this. The air flow through the radiator (fan assisted) is ducted up and out past the rider. 'Tis nice indeed in winter. But a real pig in summer, cos you can't turn it OFF.

[imdying]

I believe the device you're looking for is a turbo :lol:

[IronicCapers]

U could simply create a slide that will stop the air from reaching the rider. Thats all that happens on a car heater.