MotoGP2 over the net?

[R6_kid]

Who else has the game? And is anyone interested in having a weekly matchup with fellow KB'ers...

I was thinking two tracks per night, at around 10-15 Laps per piece.

For those interested the game sells for around $10 a copy in shops, or if you are in Auckland i might be able to lend you mine.

What do you think?

Please PM me if you are interested - make sure you tell me you email so i can send out a set of rules and times so that you all know what is going on and how it is going to work

[bobsmith]

Sounds like a fun idea... Being completely unfamiliar with games prior to motoGP4 (just picked one up from K mart for 25.90 bloody good value if you ask me) for PS2... I wondering if motoGP2 is for PC or PS2???

Either way, if it really is only $10 (I'm gussing you would probably need the original to play on the internet) I would be interested.

[R6_kid]

Sweetas, well its a 2003 release, there has since been MotoGP3 - Ultimate Racing Technology, and now they are working on motoGP2006.

I have updates to bring the game into line with last years MotoGP Championship, but unless you've got the basic game sorted there isnt really any reason to upgrade just yet.

My recommendation is to complete as much of the training as possible, do as many challenges as possible, and play around with the bike settings. One way to work out the settings is to set everything to highest and then turn one to minimum and see how the handling changes, do this for all variables then do the opposite (set all to min, one to max) and see how it changes. OR you could search for some setups in gaming forums.

p.s, i am up to 42 Points for my bike, which is around 3/4 of what you can get i think... doesnt take long if you try though.

[GR81]

PC or PS2?

[Kornholio]

I play GP500 with the MotoGP 05 bikeset, cant really play it online cos of my stupid rural connection but we been playing it for years and its still fun to blast around on

Havent tried the newest bike games but this one kicked ass for years

[onearmedbandit]

+1 for GP500 with the bikeset, been playing it since it came out way back when. Awesome game. Have to try MotoGP for the pc sometime.

[k14]

I'd love to play but better stay out because it wouldn't be fair on you guys. Wtf is with 10-15 lap races, only full distances or nothing, its not a real race then.

[Kornholio]

+1 for GP500 with the bikeset, been playing it since it came out way back when. Awesome game. Have to try MotoGP for the pc sometime.

Hey nice one... what contols do you use, I use my steering wheel and pedals(get some wicked control with that )

Also am having problems with the computer players all running off the track in big sweepers, only since updating to '05...is there a patch out I havent found yet? [edit: they are sweet on Mugello tho...havent tried all the tracks yet]

[R6_kid]

GP500, aint heard of that.

GR81, its on PC - hence playing it over the internet.

I was thinking about time K14, two races a night to get through it in something less than 14 weeks or however many rounds the real motoGP is.

[UrbanMyth]

cool idea i will most likely be in

[onearmedbandit]

Hey nice one... what contols do you use, I use my steering wheel and pedals(get some wicked control with that )

Also am having problems with the computer players all running off the track in big sweepers, only since updating to '05...is there a patch out I havent found yet? [edit: they are sweet on Mugello tho...havent tried all the tracks yet]

Thought about using the pedals and wheel, but haven't tried it! I'll have to give it a go. Haven't struck any problems like that, but like you I haven't played all the tracks since doing the update. Where did you get your files from?

[GR81]

GR81, its on PC - hence playing it over the internet.
sweet, ill see if my version works over the net *cough*
but yea, you can also play PS2 games over the net!! ;)

i shall instally tonight :)

[riffer]

We've got MotoGP 1 and 2 at home, but we're only on dialup. Ping Rates might be a bit sucky.

[hXc]

Man, I wish I wasn't a poor person. That way, I would go out and buy MotoGP2 right now.

[Wasp]

I shall obtain a copy :) might get intouch with some mates and see if i could host a server or something.....

[Mental Trousers]

Someone send me a copy and I'll give it a blast.

[GR81]

http://www.gpstore.co.nz/Games/1476449.html

not exactly expensive! haha

[Smorg]

i dont think i could count on all my fingers and toes how many times you have ended a post with *cough*

[GR81]

i dont think i could count on all my fingers and toes how many times you have ended a post with *cough*
would you prefer... *looks sideways* ? :nya:

[MrMelon]

Anyone for some online motogp2 on xbox over xbox connect? (free alternative to xbox live)

[Smorg]

would you prefer... *looks sideways* ? :nya:

*wonders if he is wasting his time with this one*

[R6_kid]

Sweetas, well it looks like there is some interest there for sure.

One thing i will mention with regards to dialup etc, it only affects how well you see the other riders moving, but it wont stop your times from going through properly. As long as your computer sees the host and vice versa it works out all good.

There are some guys working on a restricter to keep things even when playing online, but i might end up making it a one bike type shootout or something to that effect. Will have to look into it further before doing things like that though.

First question for you all is which night would be best. I was kind of thinking wednesday night's at around 7.30pm.

If we do full races, which is between 1:30-2:20 per lap we are looking at up to 45mins per race - therefore the second question is how many laps would you do before it became too much? I was thinking 15 lap races, two tracks per night.

[GR81]

short races are best... that way if/when you can it... its not all over for another 1/2 hour lol

[riffer]

Sounds cool.

I'd like to give it a go.

But promise me you won't run the server on Crazy Frog mode....

btw anyone who hasn't unlocked all tracks and bikes yet send me a pm. I can send you the motogp.cfg file codes to unlock the lot.

BTW Motogp3 for PC is $39.95 at Dicky Smiths ATM.

[James Deuce]

I'm in.

(10 FC)

[Hitcher]

Anybody want to play a gruelling hand or two of Spades instead?

[Wasp]

WEdnesday nights and thursday nights are no good as rides are on.

every other night is good for me!

can't find a copy either.... so one pm me if you found it please... the non-paying for it way...

found motogp3 though......

[thealmightytaco]

I'm keen, but need a copy. Will see what I can do.

[Buster]

Count me in. Ill grap a copy in the next few days.

[Kornholio]

Thought about using the pedals and wheel, but haven't tried it! I'll have to give it a go. Haven't struck any problems like that, but like you I haven't played all the tracks since doing the update. Where did you get your files from?

GP500 Store...all you need (http://www.gp500store.co.uk/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=5)

Also I have fucked around with my files quite a bit and probably missing something lol

Oh you gotta try the wheel and pedals man, esp in view #4... its quite freaky :D

[onearmedbandit]

Ahh I was going to suggest gp500store.

[R6_kid]

Alright people, share the love to those in your area if you can. If anyone in auckland cant find a copy then send me a PM and i'll *look* for you.

Any opposition to doing it on a tuesday night?

[hXc]

Alright people, share the love to those in your area if you can. If anyone in auckland cant find a copy then send me a PM and i'll *look* for you.

Any opposition to doing it on a tuesday night?
Anyone in Hawkes Bay with it? Come on, share the love people!!

Tuesday night is okay with me. BUT I need a copy first. *Hint hint*

[erik]

I might try join in. I'm pretty hopeless at it though.

[R6_kid]

alright a few tips for the newbs....

the RCV211 is shite in the game - so avoid it unless you really want to race it.

Brakes are important, just like in real life!

I suggest trying the following bike setup:

Tyres: Medium/Hard (soft if raining)
Gear Ratio: Low (normal for a track with long straights)
Front Suspension: 9/10
Rear Suspension: 10/10
Wheelbase: 1440 (then try 1420, then 1400 as you get used to it)

The technique to work this good is lots of acceleration and lots of braking. So you have to learn your bikes braking points for different types of corners otherwise you will end up in the grass/sand.

Also when allocating points on your bike make sure that braking is near the same as acceleration (within a point or two) otherwise you wont stop fast enough, also keep the cornering points up too but they dont need to be as high as the other three.

This setup will cause you to wheelspin on the line, so the trick is to to hold the revs at full, and when the lights change just tap the back brake to stop the rear from spinning up - takes a bit of time to get right.

[sprocket]

Count me in im keen to tear up some track............:scooter:

[Wasp]

Right, its currently in the process of being delivered to my pc, if it wont work i'll go buy a copy.

Downloaded and played the demo, was quite sweet actually but ive been playing a fairly realistic car racing sim :dodge: so it took ages to get used too...

[GR81]

im struggling with FFD (fat finger disorder) and the gamepad is an ass to setup :(

[Wasp]

Sucks to be you, im glad i dont suffer from ffd/s as i use a laptop so its got even smaller keys than a normal kb....

[Mental Trousers]

So is this happening tomorrow?!?!

I suggest meeting in irc so everyone can coordinate etc. I'll set up a room. Just join the irc server as per normal and once you're in type in

/join #kbmotogp

[Wasp]

who what tommorow? ARGH guess i better practice....

[sprocket]

oh wopps got motogp 3 lol........do all the versions work together? or do i need to get moto2 as well

[R6_kid]

not this week, didnt think you were all THAT eager. Gonna give it a week or two for people to get the game, get a bit of practice etc etc.

I mean i'm atleast a week or two ahead of most people. I highly recommend doing as much of the training as possible, as well as completeing your first season.

The rules are pretty simple at the moment:

- Must use your own bike (e.g. cant use unlocked bikes)

- Practice will be 5 laps of track to be raced, the tracks will be announced the night before (i'll try and keep this in key with the real MotoGP)

-Points scoring will be as per the game (will have to verify this so that you still get points for being at the back)

- I will verify the setup of the racing when we are all in the game (via the person hosting it as i cant :pinch: )

- If you get disconnected during game play you will be relegated one place and scored accordingly (this may change)

Anyone have any other ideas for rules to keep it fair?

For those that asked, only MotoGP2 will work online, anyother version and you will not see us online, also please run it standard without any patches or upgrades.

Please PM me if you are interested - make sure you tell me you email so i can send out a set of rules and times so that you all know what is going on and how it is going to work

[GR81]

if you're like me and have a very short memory.
here is a screenshot of the default keys for you to print out.

[R6_kid]

end = skip song - dont forget that one!

[Wasp]

yeap im getting the hang of it slowly, completed up to "hold the line" of the training.

I had to skip the burnout one as after a few tries i just couldnt figure out how the hell i was supposed to complete it...... can pull a burnout just fine, can sorta sustain one by tapping the front brake key but as soon as i cross the line it says i did it wrong?

what am i missing here? or do i need a touch sensitive controller?

Also i'd be keen to try a few testing runs to get the network side of things working, i could host a game after some router fiddling but wont be able to have many outsiders join (due to lack of upload, 3.5/128k adsl with orcon).

[erik]

I had to skip the burnout one as after a few tries i just couldnt figure out how the hell i was supposed to complete it...... can pull a burnout just fine, can sorta sustain one by tapping the front brake key but as soon as i cross the line it says i did it wrong?

what am i missing here? or do i need a touch sensitive controller?

The burnout one shouldn't be too hard, iirc you just start the burnout with the front brake and throttle before the line, then tap the front brake so you keep moving forwards.

The slalom one after that is where I've given up :p

[Sniper]

I'll conform and join

[GR81]

I'll conform and join
we thought you might give-in eventually ;)

[hXc]

Finally got my copy today so I've been practising with different bikes etc. I like the 4 strokes better. Haven't started a career yet, will do so soon.

Once I get the hang of it etc I'll be all up for it over the net

[riffer]

The burnout one shouldn't be too hard, iirc you just start the burnout with the front brake and throttle before the line, then tap the front brake so you keep moving forwards.

The slalom one after that is where I've given up :p

Eric - I'll put you out of your misery.

Here's a zip file, which contains the NO-CD patch and the hacked motogp.cfg file, which gives you all the tracks, bikes, etc...

[erik]

Cheers! :)

[R6_kid]

to date i havent heard of anyone that has beaten the slalom... i almost did but i only did 2/3 of it then rushed to the finish - hit zero just as i met the line so i figured i needed to be quicker at the start but i cant be bothered. One thing to remember is to stay on your first season in career as that is where you create your rider/bike combo - after season one you only earn championship points not rider credits, effectively your bike at the end of season one is your bike for the rest of the game unless you start over.

[erik]

to date i havent heard of anyone that has beaten the slalom...
That's good to know, maybe I'm not so hopeless then.

I think I'll just concentrate on racing rather than doing the training tests.

Any chance of naming the track we'll be using now so we all get a chance to learn it?
I think I'm going to need all the help I can get to stay on the track...

[R6_kid]

What were the first too MotoGP rounds for this year? i think it was valencia and ???? find out what they are and tahts them!

[erik]

Jerez and Qatar according to the calendar:
http://www.motogp.com/en/motogp/motogp_calendar.htm?menu=calendar

But since Qatar isn't in motogp2 and neither are Istanbul or Shanghai, the next track that is in it is Le Mans.

[sprocket]

Well i got GP2 today so im in for sure

Cant we just get the new tracks off the net ?

[R6_kid]

i've been checking out the fan sites for MotoGP2 on the net, seems there are may be new tracks available but in my experience running mods it has caused the game to crash.

Will try to add a poll so we can decide on a start date.

[badlieutenant]

bump with ten thingys

[scracha]

I'll spank ye's all like the kiwi behatches you's are (moohhahaha)

This obviously assumes
1) The disk arrives on time
2) I'm actually any good at the game

[R6_kid]

Alright everyone, get practicing.


RACING STARTS IN TWO WEEKS
Tuesday 23rd of May

There will be a practice run on this coming tuesday to clear up any issues before the start date.

We will be playing over the gamespy network - those with copies dont worry because i know it works. I need someone fairly senior (that everone knows) that has a decent internet connection to host it via GameSpy. I know this means instally extra stuff but its the easiest way to make sure the non-geek types can join in.

I will post here with what tracks we will race with on the first night.

[Damon]

Sweet, I got my copy yesterday so will have to practice

[GR81]

im crap at it... i think ill give up now :(
need to get the gamepad working i think.

i can host it tho as i have a static IP

[Wasp]

im for doing a testing run this week so that i can monitor what sorta bandwidth the game will use and make a decision on what is needed to host, we may have to end up doing it in 2 runs or something.....

[R6_kid]

Umm, im pretty sure if you host it via gamespy network it is hosted somewhere on their servers... you just run it.

Once you have installed GameSpy it is pretty straight forward.

[Wasp]

um nope thats an impossibility, it would simply cost them too much to make it worth while, it is merely a meeting point for hosting games. edit: oh yea and the ping would be terrible (and not due to our crap internet)

there are 2 different ways games communicate these days

1) Centrelised server: one comp is the host/server of the game, all clients send their info to the server and the server sends everyones info to the clients (games like counter-strike, wow etc use this)

2) client to client (like p2p) all clients send their info to all other clients in the game (commonly used in rts games such as starcraft, warcraft, aoe/aom and c&c.

i can see motogp being either of these.... therefor it needs testing. (i reckon its gonna be #1 though)

i dont mean to brag or anything but ive been working with comps since before i was 5, ive set up a cyber cafe, ive ran various game servers, and i currently work as a laptop tech servicing laptops in the biggest computer company in nz. :bleh:

[Damon]

I have a 12 inch penis, shall we play with that? :nya:

[Wasp]

ok :kick:

[Buster]

Save it for the track boys.. You will be racing for 2nd place anyways.:nya:

[R6_kid]

haha, sweetas. I havent had any problems over the net, and i end up playng vs people in the US, aussie, argentina, germany - all over the show. Well, i did have one problem, I GOT COMPLETELY OWNED!!!

[sprocket]

well i had a go on the net tonight ......got owned aswell .........:gob:

Man playing with the keyboard is dam hard to, i think im getting RSI only been playing for like two hours .

[Kornholio]

Man playing with the keyboard is dam hard to, i think im getting RSI only been playing for like two hours .

I use my Logitech Momo FF wheel and pedals when playing GP 500...makes it real easy to hold around corners and variable throttle and brake makes it eeasy to control the bike...totally freaky in on-board view :D

[sprocket]

I use my Logitech Momo FF wheel and pedals when playing GP 500...makes it real easy to hold around corners and variable throttle and brake makes it eeasy to control the bike...totally freaky in on-board view :D


Yeah i might try with the game pad, otherwise might have a browse on TM for a steering wheel :blip:

[James Deuce]

Joystick feels heaps more natural to me than a wheel or a keyboard.

[Kornholio]

Probably would feel more like the handle bars than a wheel...looks funny 'driving' my bike lol

[R6_kid]

haha, i raced on my mates computer on the weekend. Having the extra computing power really does help. In 4hours i did what took me two weeks to do on my computer at home. Aswell as progressing to 'Champion' level and managing to win a race :gob:

not to mention the fact that it looked awesome!

Really looking forward to this, will be really good fun.

Tuesday 16th will be pre-season warmup. Will probably try out Valencia and Saschenring(sp)... but i will leave it up to who ever ends up showing up.

I might have to give it a miss as it's my sisters bday and i dont know what the plans are yet.

Please make sure you have GameSpy installed and working so you can test it out on this date. Only trouble i have had is that sometimes opponents bikes will stay static on the line, and they will see you doing the same (not all oponents only some) however at the end of the race it should still compute the scores/times/places right.

[James Deuce]

gareth - a free hint - don't leave up to other people to make up their mind on the night - utter chaos will reign. Tell people what they are doing, and ignore the whiners. The whiners are usually people who never organise anything anyway and like a psychic leech draw any good karma away from a great idea.

[erik]

Please make sure you have GameSpy installed and working so you can test it out on this date. Only trouble i have had is that sometimes opponents bikes will stay static on the line, and they will see you doing the same (not all oponents only some) however at the end of the race it should still compute the scores/times/places right.
Why do we need gamespy?
Can't someone just create a game and people connect to it?

[GR81]

i think its easier to start one up through gamespy.
although if someone has an IP and posts it, cant be too hard to join.

what port does it use?

(no CD patch attached)

[R6_kid]

Where is that hag boy mental-trousers? If we all meet in chat and start a #motoGP2 line, then we can sort it out in there.

Basically it is easier to use GameSpy, but if someone with broadband can host a game (i havent been able too) then that could be a go.

[James Deuce]

I've done a bit of online racing and generally speaking home broadband doesn,t have the upload capacity to maintain more than 3 or 4 connections reliably, even cable.

Most of the gmaes I play are hosted by an enthusiast who works for an ISP (Inspire) in Palmy. I will see if I can get some space for MotoGP2.

[R6_kid]

cheers jim.

[GR81]

anyone got a 512kbps upload broadband plan?

[scracha]

[LEFT]I've done a bit of online racing and generally speaking home broadband doesn,t have the upload capacity to maintain more than 3 or 4 connections reliably, even cable.
LEFT]
It's really just a kiwi thing. Blame Telecrumb and their cr@ppy 128Kbps (roughly 14KB/s) upload limit. <rant> How they can call it broadband is beyond me </rant>

Anyways...can someone PM me a download link for it?

[R6_kid]

scracha, tis in the mail now, sorry about the delay, been a bit drunk lately :mellow:

[R6_kid]

first practice is tonight. Just got news that we will be having the event hosted via an ISP so :Punk:

If we all meet in the KB chat room at 7pm, i will setup a game on GameSpy with a password so that we can all join and give it a try.

[sprocket]

So whats the happs for this tuesday, are we still on for a starting race, after our poor attempt to try and host on gamespy (dam firewalls) lets hope this week will be better. I nearly had a race with slingshot but got disconnected by the retard that was hosting on gamespy, didnt want to get owned by a couple of kiwi's me thinks :headbang:

Look foward to this weeks match up though, if we can get the technical issues resolved with hosting, and a few more ppl wouldn't go a miss to.

[Craig11]

Where can i buy the game from? I have tryed eb.

[GR81]

is this the acutal game download ?
no, its the patch so you can play it without the CD being in the cdrom drive.

[MattRSK]

Will you be playing GP2 or GP3

[sprocket]

Where can i buy the game from? I have tryed eb.

i picked up a copy for $20 at gamesplus store you can also get it at game planet

[sprocket]

Will you be playing GP2 or GP3
we are playing gp 2

[R6_kid]

just waiting to hear from the ISP that is going to host it for us. Hopefully you guys are familiar with the use of TCP/IPC protocols - yeh i did that to sound smart.

Basically you go Multiplayer game - IPC network, it will come up with a box asking you to enter an IP adress which will be in the form of XXX.XX.XXX.XX or something similar where the X's are numbers. I will get details of the adress we will be using and post it in the chat room.

Hopefully our chat guru Mr Mental-Trousers will have set up a chat room just for us.

[scracha]

http://www.us.playstation.com/Content/OGS/SCUS-97502/Site/

Fuggin Hell. If this game (Tourist Tropy) is on a PS2 then gawd only knows what it'll be like on PS3. The only reason I purchased a PS1 was for Gran Turismo

[Jantar]

i picked up a copy for $20 at gamesplus store you can also get it at game planet
I bought a copy from the Warehouse on thursday. $9.95. But bloody hell, after seeing me try to manage 3 laps of Suzuka my wife reckons she's never hopping on a bike with me again. Best time so far is 3:05.

[scracha]

I bought a copy from the Warehouse on thursday. $9.95. But bloody hell, after seeing me try to manage 3 laps of Suzuka my wife reckons she's never hopping on a bike with me again. Best time so far is 3:05.

Downloaded a copy yesterday. Bittorrent is your friend <g>

[Wasp]

i second that scracha, did you get the pwr-jet one? (i reckon its prob not a good idea to install his mod, ovbiously)

cant remeber what trak im up to, has that nice right hand uphill sweeper at the start, but im slowly working through the game.

[R6_kid]

found out last night that i am needed for a fucking stocktake at work from 5-12 tonight.

Also havent heard back from the ISP that is meant to be hosting for us. So it looks like this will have to be postponed for the meantime until i can get the host details sorted out - gives you all a bit more time to get your game sorted.

[Craig11]

Whats up? Any games being played?

[Wasp]

nope doesnt look like it took off

[oldguy]

alright a few tips for the newbs....

the RCV211 is shite in the game - so avoid it unless you really want to race it.

Brakes are important, just like in real life!

I suggest trying the following bike setup:

Tyres: Medium/Hard (soft if raining)
Gear Ratio: Low (normal for a track with long straights)
Front Suspension: 9/10
Rear Suspension: 10/10
Wheelbase: 1440 (then try 1420, then 1400 as you get used to it)

The technique to work this good is lots of acceleration and lots of braking. So you have to learn your bikes braking points for different types of corners otherwise you will end up in the grass/sand.

Also when allocating points on your bike make sure that braking is near the same as acceleration (within a point or two) otherwise you wont stop fast enough, also keep the cornering points up too but they dont need to be as high as the other three.

This setup will cause you to wheelspin on the line, so the trick is to to hold the revs at full, and when the lights change just tap the back brake to stop the rear from spinning up - takes a bit of time to get right.I was keen but now I'm not sure, thats a lot of work just setting up the bike and the last time I played a bike game I sucked, and it wasn't even a very good game (MR3) Moto Racer 3 bugger I'll be in.

[sprocket]

....whats the haps im still keen to play aswell ...had pleanty of pratice now and the playing against the AI is getting lame


:rockon:

[ZeroIndex]

If anyone has MotoGP3 on PC, I have it, and would be interested in a race or two..

[R6_kid]

was supposed to be contacted by an ISP regarding hosting the events for us, however never heard a word. Turns out unless you are an IT guru that MotoGP2 doesnt want you to play over the net so as said it never really took off, although there is a lot of interest in it which was good.

[James Deuce]

He reckons he's emailed you Gareth. I'll see what's up. It's not really that you need to be an IT guru. You can thank Telecom up the lack of upload bandwidth.

[Craig11]

Does no-one have a 512kb upload? Surely that would run the game nicely. :yes:

[James Deuce]

Someone may well have bought a 512kb upload product - I'd like to see them actually get that amount of bandwidth consistently. Remember, Telecom only have to point their gnarled finmger at a burst of traffic that hits 512kb for 1 sec to say that the link is in spec.