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Jackrat
7th May 2004, 19:18
Ok it seems like we're in the who did this season,so how many times have you been stopped at a drink drive check point.
Seeing as how several million people get stopped each year it must be happening to someone else a lot Because I have never been stopped in NZ and only once in OZ.
Two Smoker
7th May 2004, 19:22
In the last month i have been stopped about 5 times at checkpoints, 3 times on a bike and twice in a car. With me i don't care if they test me, if i have even one drink i wont drive or ride a car or motorcycle at all.... Ive got Zero tolerance for drunk drivers:angry2:
I think I've been stopped 2 or 3 times, all when I was driving a cage. I haven't come across any checkpoints in the few months I've been riding.
I don't drink much, and if I do have some, I don't drive or ride.
I think it depends on where you ride, because AFAIK the cops set up their checking points where they think they'll catch lots of people, like on Hobson street going out of the city on a sunday morning.
I blew in the bag once about 1987 on an afternoon just before Xmas (work party time of the year) - passed just. That was my first and only bag job, then I went some years until checked at one of the booze-bus stops probably first time about 1995 - passed OK, don't drink too much eh, and then have probably only been checked about 3 or 4 times over the last 8 or 9 years and only once on the bike. That time was as we were coming back into Upper Hutt just North of Rimutaka Tavern on a Sunday ride - talked into the machine with my helmet on and he tells me I failed. Hadn't had a drink for days at the time. Made me get off the bike, take the hat off and go into the bus - checked it again and all OK. So what the!! Was my helmet full of alcohol or petrol fumes or something as I had no idea why I would fail the first check with my helmet on?
So anyway in Welly area I've only been stopped about 5 times in over 15 years. I saw a checkpoint just outside the Mt Vic tunnel about 2 weeks ago but drove straight through as they only stopped you when one of the boys was free. Dumb ass place to be testing on that 70k zone on the way to the airport causing quite a traffic snarl up.
Never been stopped in a booze check point, but FOUR BLOODY TIMES IN ONE DAY for warrant/rego check.
FROSTY
7th May 2004, 20:16
it seems westyland is a place they send the checkpoint cops out to.
I've been breath tested heaps on Swanson road and Universal drive
in henderson.
Now the story I heard by the way was that every time a load of cops gets through college they do a month on breth patrol
Firefight
7th May 2004, 20:21
Not uncommon to be stopped 05.30-.06.00 hours H/way 22 outside the dairy company,Paerata for wof/rego and breath test by Pukekohe general duties cops, always feel a bit sorry for them. even on my bike I must still be warmer than them :cold: .
Firefight :crazy:
I got done twice last year while i was on my bike. Both time it was around 3 in the afternoon whilst I was on my way to uni. Can't see who they are going to get at that time of the day.
Have been stopped twice in thirteen years at drink drive checkpoints....been stopped umpting times at check points for licence, warrant and rego check.
Two Smoker
7th May 2004, 22:06
Now the story I heard by the way was that every time a load of cops gets through college they do a month on breth patrol
That ain't a story its true, they do some time on the booze buses to get in "contact" with the public, then they head into STU or HP, once again because of the ability to learn people skills, that shows that if you meet a wank of a cop when being pulled over for speeding, he probably wants to get into the job of General Duties rather than giving out tickets, hence the shitty attitude...
It depends on what you're doing I think - I don't go out much,but late at night I have been stopped a few times in the car,I seldom have more than 2 stubbies ever and if I have had anything in the last three days the missus kicks me out of the drivers seat.Never been stopped for a breath test on a bike....but I've turned my head and talked into my hand for a WoF check a few times.
wkid_one
8th May 2004, 08:13
I have been breathalised twice. At a rough guess I have done about 250,000km+ - so this is a pretty poor hit rate.
Also - when I was a young'n I used to have my old mans ute for the weekend - on the proviso I picked them up from the Cossie Club on a Sunday nite so they could drink and didn't have to get a taxi home. I did this for about 12 months - and NOT ONCE did we run in to a Check Point.....bloody funny.
Drunken Monkey
8th May 2004, 13:57
Lost count now... Used to get it occasionally during uni - the sniffer wouldn't even pickup a jug of beer (& fish'n'chips) more than an hour after. Then when I started working, I prolly got stopped about half a dozen times over the period of a few months. Wines with dinner seem to set the sniffer off easily - failed it twice after only 2 glasses and a meal and had to give evidentials to pass.
That's one thng that pisses me off about those TV ads where the cops are total cu|\|ts when someone fails the sniffer. Are they *trying* to portray police as impatient, in-emotional, unreasonable robots? Doesn't help their already tarnished image at all...
Both times it happened to me, they asked how much I had drunk and if I had eaten, then told me to have a good night when I passed the bag. I haven't had to deal with those 'fail youth' pr!cks some of you fellas mentioned a few months back yet, but I'm sure I'd tell them in no round-a-bout terms to kindly fuc|< the hell off and get a life...
Big Dog
8th May 2004, 18:32
In the last month i have been stopped about 5 times at checkpoints, 3 times on a bike and twice in a car. With me i don't care if they test me, if i have even one drink i wont drive or ride a car or motorcycle at all.... Ive got Zero tolerance for drunk drivers:angry2:
Right on!
I get tested on average three times a year.
I always get rewarded with a smile and a :spudwave:
Big Dog
8th May 2004, 18:35
- talked into the machine with my helmet on and he tells me I failed. Hadn't had a drink for days at the time. Made me get off the bike, take the hat off and go into the bus - checked it again and all OK. So what the!! Was my helmet full of alcohol or petrol fumes or something as I had no idea why I would fail the first check with my helmet on?
I was told by an officer at a check point that insufficient airflow stil registers as a fail.
Big Dog
8th May 2004, 18:39
Right on!
I get tested on average three times a year.
I always get rewarded with a smile and a :spudwave:
I reckon the reason I used to get tested so often is I used to sober drive a lot. :moon:
I was told by an officer at a check point that insufficient airflow stil registers as a fail.
once you have been REQUIRED to provide a sample of breath, an insufficient blow into the alcotech can (and after a warning probably would be) deemed a refusal, however when used as a sniffer, the pump draws air across the test chip, so a positive air pressure is not required. there is no offence for refusing to speak 'into' the sniffer, however if you did you would inevitably find yourself being 'required to undergo a breath test........' and basically waste your own time, especially if you haven't been drinking, but putting you at significant risk if you have....
A year or so back there seemed to be more frequent random checks and I got breathalyzed several times. Hasn't happened recently, and never on the bike.
Of course, the fact that it's 9:20 on a Saturday evening and I'm at home in front of the computer probably explains a few things...
Seriously, if I'm on the bike I NEVER drink. IF we go out in the car my wife always drives back. Most of the time if we go to the pub we walk to the local.
But usually I just drink at home... :apint:
spudchucka
9th May 2004, 02:49
Now the story I heard by the way was that every time a load of cops gets through college they do a month on breth patrol
It isn't mandatory but a few districts tend to let new cops cut their teeth on the local booze bus for a few months when they first graduate.
spudchucka
9th May 2004, 02:53
I haven't had to deal with those 'fail youth' pr!cks some of you fellas mentioned a few months back yet, but I'm sure I'd tell them in no round-a-bout terms to kindly fuc|< the hell off and get a life...
Then you would probably get yourself locked up. Showing the failed youth result is simply informing the driver of the test result. Get over the idea that it is some kind of insult.
Lou Girardin
9th May 2004, 20:33
Then you would probably get yourself locked up. Showing the failed youth result is simply informing the driver of the test result. Get over the idea that it is some kind of insult.
There is case law that says, telling a cop to fuck off is not insulting language or disorderly behaviour. The judge held that, by the nature of the Officers job he had to expect that reaction from some members of the public.
So, the failed youth bullshit is an even better reason to tell him to fuck off.
Her_C4
9th May 2004, 21:56
I get pulled up in my car a lot - checking my exhaust< :Oops: >, rego and warrant checks as well as breath testing, but not on my bike .....I prolly haven't had it long enough!!
The most frustrating experience that I had was not long after I moved to the Hutt and didn't know my way around at all. It was nearly 4am and I was really really tired and really really confused :doh: about why I couldn't get over the other side of the railway line into Whites Line.
I was driving really slowly trying to read the road signs and a car pulled up behind me .... seeing I was driving so slowly and peering through the windscreen I thought I would be considerate and get out of the way by turning the corner and pulling into the side of the road while I figured out what my options were. (I was sure I had been going round in circles and my passenger (Wellingtonian) had passed out in the seat beside me so was no help...).
The car behind me was a cop and flashed his lights and gave a burst on his siren... god only knows what for I was already on the side of the road. I got out of the car and he crouched down behind his door, shone a light in my eyes and directed me to the footpath.
I aquiesced and waited while his (female) partner asked me whether I had been drinking, whose car it was, why my friend was slumped into the passenger seat, where I worked, how long I had worked there - and wrote down all my contact details in the little notebook (I had had three glasses of wine from about 6 oclock in the evening).
She also asked me why I was driving slowly and I explained that I was lost and trying to find my way back to Whites Line, and she asked me to wait on the footpath in the freezing cold whilst her partner checked my car over - again ..... and again....
Finally he went back to the patrol car and I could hear him calling it in, so I waited and waited until his partner called out that I could sit in the car.
He came up and asked me to talk the talk (name and address into the meter).... and with what I can only describe as a triumphant expression and a flourish, produced a breathalyser and told me to blow into it.
I did - and he read the result and passed it to his partner and went back to the patrol car.
About another 6 or so minutes passed and she came back to the drivers side to tell me that I could go.
I pulled off up the road very slowly - and had not even got 200 hundreds when he raced up behind me with his lights flashing and his siren on again. I pulled over but didn't bother getting out and he came up with the breathalyser and told me to blow into it again. He was very young as well as being very arrogant and rude the whole time and did not bother to explain why he had to do it again, and when I asked why he just stared at me. :eyepoke:
I blew into the breathalyser again and his partner came up and took it off him - as she walked back to the car she called back over her shoulder for me to go...
The whole thing took about 35 minutes.....and then I STILL had to try and find my way home.....
What a prick :eek5:
Hitcher
9th May 2004, 22:03
I can only ever remember being stopped and asked for some breath on two occasions. As opposed to the many times I've been stopped and asked to pay money...
spudchucka
10th May 2004, 00:13
There is case law that says, telling a cop to fuck off is not insulting language or disorderly behaviour. The judge held that, by the nature of the Officers job he had to expect that reaction from some members of the public.
So, the failed youth bullshit is an even better reason to tell him to fuck off.
And its a fine line between telling a cop to fuck off and crossing over to Disorderly Behaviour (depending on the circumstances), which is real easy to prove so lock the big mouthed twit up.
marty
10th May 2004, 09:04
you could still be locked up for offensive behaviour, be strip searched, beaten up, spend the night in the cells, go to court the next day and so on. do you think the cop really cares if he loses a not guilty? a pca for unlawful arrest is never going to go anywhere, as the ingredients for the offence are complete - it's up to the court to decide whether they hold to the appropriate case law, given each case should be heard on it's merits. ffs lou, you are sounding like a bitter and twisted ex-mot cop who was too short to get into the police
MikeL
10th May 2004, 09:42
Some interesting attitudes revealed in these comments. I certainly don't condone offensive behaviour, and telling a police officer to f*ck off seems gratuitous and unnecessary if the officer is only doing his job and acting within the law. I'm sure that the police are subjected to a lot of deliberate provocation by people with a chip on their shoulder and no doubt at times it requires a lot more than the average human forbearance to put up with this sort of behaviour. On the other hand the reference to being strip-searched and beaten up as well as the ineffectiveness of complaining to the PCA hints at the arrogant abuse of power that anecdotally at least seems to lie behind the increasing loss of respect that the police are suffering. It is a vicious circle and to break it requires more creative thinking than just increasing repression.
Drunken Monkey
10th May 2004, 09:42
Then you would probably get yourself locked up. Showing the failed youth result is simply informing the driver of the test result. Get over the idea that it is some kind of insult.
Oh, wait a minute...
I need to give you this...
:finger:
Bite me, cop lover!
pete376403
10th May 2004, 09:44
Apparently they are getting a lot of references to rapist behaviour at present.
jimbo600
10th May 2004, 10:46
Oh, wait a minute...
I need to give you this...
:finger:
Bite me, cop lover!
Hoho nice one DM.
Telling a HP to fuck off is wholly appropriate, especially when they hang around speed change areas as they are not acting within the law. According to their speed enforcement policy they are not to target folks within 250m of a speed change (when going from high to low). So if this happens then fuck off is the correct response. As for disorderly behaviour or offensive behaviour...yeah right, someone actually has to be offended for that to occur and I cannot believe that a cop would be offended by bad language. I on the other hand get very fuckin' offended when some twat HP says, and I quote "don't get bitter mate, I just saved your life" after presenting me with a ticket for going 57 in a 50 zone.
I tell ya I hate each and every one of those HP idiots.
Reasonably regularly, certainly too often to count now.
A couple of classics: the entire southbound Southern Motorway was closed off just before Mt Wellington for breath testing one Friday night on a holiday weekend (possibly Labour weekend???), which is actually a clever spot to do it, because the last exit is Ellerslie/Penrose & there's a corner in the motorway before you hit Mt Wellington so you can't see them & there's a far enough distance after the corner for the tailback not to be seen too.
There was a booze bus set up on the ride home from Paeroa to Hamilton this year, just across SH27 near Tahuna. But not a single cop sighted as I crossed the plains to that point, where I got caught last year. :mellow:
spudchucka
10th May 2004, 11:15
Oh, wait a minute...
I need to give you this...
:finger:
Bite me, cop lover!
Now you have gone and hurt my feelings, I need a hug!
:finger: back at ya.
Jackrat
10th May 2004, 11:21
There is case law that says, telling a cop to fuck off is not insulting language or disorderly behaviour. The judge held that, by the nature of the Officers job he had to expect that reaction from some members of the public.
So, the failed youth bullshit is an even better reason to tell him to fuck off.
Good luck to him,I tryed it and it didn't work.
One judge might let you walk another might not,I think it depends on the situation.I know judge Brown in AK will throw the book at you and then jump up an down on it,while judge Murray when he was on the shore would let you walk.You should no longer get done for offensive langage for the word "Fuck"to a cop, but if your really keen there are still a couple that will do it.More so if you say them to a female cop.I prefered the old system where if you were a smart ass you got a smack up the head but unfortunatly most of the soft cocks now days can't handle that an run off complaining to mummy & daddy about their rights.
spudchucka
10th May 2004, 11:21
To everyone that thinks telling a cop to fuck off or being generally abusive to them is a good idea, what do you think that cop will do after dealing with an abusive motorist? He is going to tell all his mates about you and will put through intell about you and your attitude. You will be known by all the local cops, they will know what you drive and they will know about your attitude. What do you think will happen next time a cop sees you driving? You will get pulled over and will get what ever tickets can be issued. Discretion, warnings, compliance, I don't think so because you have previously proven that you a complete dork of the absolute highest order.
Do you people know what a self fullfilling prophecy is because there is sure as hell a fair few of them getting generated in here at the moment.
Drunken Monkey
10th May 2004, 11:58
awww, I did say 'kindly' fu(k off. How easy it is to open a can of worms on this forum...
spud, we are just sharing experiences here - and don't generally appreciate being berated for it.
still, I shouldn't lave lowered myself to that level...
peace? :hug:
I give as I take - nine times out of ten, the police have been polite and professional when I have been stopped (for what ever reason - whether it was just a random stop or I was playing silly buggers) and I return in kind. And yes, this has got me off some potential fines.
However, if some cocky police training college grad tried to wind me up (I'm not saying I'd tell anyone who told me I failed youth to piss off - It's all in the context), I won't take shit from him. I have been surprised how effective telling a cop to naff off can be if hes wasting your time - and the person that told me I should do it: another cop.
The story: I was having a whine at work one day (my collegue at the time was a cop moonlighting as a computer techie) about a cop who dared pulled me over for going down a bus lane where the road was closed for road works and I was directed down that said bus lane by the road workers - yet somehow this dim witted PC plod was unable to see the myriad of orange cones, a big yellow digger with a flashing yellow light on top, and a big DETOUR sign. Halfway through writing his ticket, the construction worker came up and helped me out ("we have closed the road - ALL the traffic has to use the bus lane"). Apology from the cop? Nope. "I'll just give you a warning this time...". FFS. Colleague's advice: tell him to fuc|< off, get his number, then file a complaint.
spudchucka
10th May 2004, 15:48
Drunken Monkey,
Fair enough that cop was in the wrong and I have no problem with you putting him straight. What I have a problem with is the general "tell the cops to get fucked" attitude that people are promoting. What does it achieve?? Nothing and it will probably come back to bite you in the arse, so don't do it in the first place.
By the way I don't go out of my way to berate anyone but if I'm reading stuff that is BS then I'll respond. Sorry if it offends anyone but I'm just saying it as I see it.
marty
10th May 2004, 15:52
Some interesting attitudes revealed in these comments. I certainly don't condone offensive behaviour, and telling a police officer to f*ck off seems gratuitous and unnecessary if the officer is only doing his job and acting within the law. I'm sure that the police are subjected to a lot of deliberate provocation by people with a chip on their shoulder and no doubt at times it requires a lot more than the average human forbearance to put up with this sort of behaviour. On the other hand the reference to being strip-searched and beaten up as well as the ineffectiveness of complaining to the PCA hints at the arrogant abuse of power that anecdotally at least seems to lie behind the increasing loss of respect that the police are suffering. It is a vicious circle and to break it requires more creative thinking than just increasing repression.
i agree that it is an arrogant abuse of power, but it comes from both sides - the public push the boundaries, so do the cops. in the end no-one wins, everyone is pissed off, and the circle continues. jackrats experience with different judges is right on - sometimes you win, sometimes you don't. sometimes 12 months down the track the police will offer no evidence or withdraw - where does that leave you? case law really only matters in court - in 99 out of 100 cases it doesn't work on the street, and the courtroom is the place to battle it out. winning in court (as the defendant) doesn't really make it any easier when you've spent the night in the cells 8 months prior.....
jimbo600
10th May 2004, 16:14
To everyone that thinks telling a cop to fuck off or being generally abusive to them is a good idea, what do you think that cop will do after dealing with an abusive motorist? He is going to tell all his mates about you and will put through intell about you and your attitude. You will be known by all the local cops, they will know what you drive and they will know about your attitude. What do you think will happen next time a cop sees you driving? You will get pulled over and will get what ever tickets can be issued. Discretion, warnings, compliance, I don't think so because you have previously proven that you a complete dork of the absolute highest order.
Do you people know what a self fullfilling prophecy is because there is sure as hell a fair few of them getting generated in here at the moment.
I imagine some of the local cops willhunt you down and shake your hand. I know there is a bit of friction between HP and other cops.
Drunken Monkey
10th May 2004, 19:56
Fair 'nuff, spud :) Feel free to rip my opinions to shreds, just not so keen on getting slammed when I'm relating an observation...
Hmmm - there appear to always be a lot of suzuki sportbike riders in these law enforcement based threads...are we our own worst enemy?!?! Is the GSX-R/TL reputation as a street holligan's tool of trade a scarey truism?!?! Can I shut up and get back to work?!?! Is using "?!?!" really bad use of punctuation?!?!
scumdog
10th May 2004, 20:17
Hoho nice one DM.
Telling a HP to fuck off is wholly appropriate, especially when they hang around speed change areas as they are not acting within the law. According to their speed enforcement policy they are not to target folks within 250m of a speed change (when going from high to low). So if this happens then fuck off is the correct response. As for disorderly behaviour or offensive behaviour...yeah right, someone actually has to be offended for that to occur and I cannot believe that a cop would be offended by bad language. I on the other hand get very fuckin' offended when some twat HP says, and I quote "don't get bitter mate, I just saved your life" after presenting me with a ticket for going 57 in a 50 zone.
I tell ya I hate each and every one of those HP idiots.
That 250 metres is only a "gentlemans agreement", aparently a while ago some wanker decided to defend his speeding charge by measuring that he was only 247 metres inside the speed change when he got pinged! :doh:
The top cop in that area aparently sent out a message "don't worry about the 250 metres thing anymore, you don't need to cut them the slack anymore" amazing how some ding-a-ling can ruin it for the rest eh?
What?
10th May 2004, 20:27
[QUOTE=spudchucka]To everyone that thinks telling a cop to fuck off or being generally abusive to them is a good idea, what do you think that cop will do after dealing with an abusive motorist? He is going to tell all his mates about you and will put through intell about you and your attitude. You will be known by all the local cops, they will know what you drive and they will know about your attitude. What do you think will happen next time a cop sees you driving? You will get pulled over and will get what ever tickets can be issued. Discretion, warnings, compliance, I don't think so because you have previously proven that you a complete dork of the absolute highest order.
QUOTE]
That explains it all, Spud. I get a ticket for towing an unladen trailer at 105K (with the flow, no overtaking opportunities etc etc) from a guy I assisted in not getting his skull kicked in a couple of weeks previously. This was in a small country town - cop knew me quite well. The ticket was "just doing his job". Made it all seem so worthwhile to me.
spudchucka
10th May 2004, 20:28
Fair 'nuff, spud :) Feel free to rip my opinions to shreds, just not so keen on getting slammed when I'm relating an observation...
Hmmm - there appear to always be a lot of suzuki sportbike riders in these law enforcement based threads...are we our own worst enemy?!?! Is the GSX-R/TL reputation as a street holligan's tool of trade a scarey truism?!?! Can I shut up and get back to work?!?! Is using "?!?!" really bad use of punctuation?!?!
I'm not quite sure what you are implying?? I just happen to like V-Twin sports bikes. I aren't actually a great fan of Suzuki but the TL is a great bike. Sometimes a bit hairy on the handling though. Before the TL I had a Firestorm and I can't afford a Ducati or Aprillia so I have a TL.
Two Smoker
10th May 2004, 20:36
I agree with Spud, if you tell a cop to fuck off, then your asking for trouble, if you can prove him wrong, and he is not being a wank while doing wrong, just right him of his ways in a non aggressive way. If he is being a wank, well then thats different.....
Lou Girardin
10th May 2004, 20:47
I can't claim be a devils advocate in some of these debates because I actually believe in what I post, although it is interesting how using provocative language does expose some peoples attitudes. None of these pro-Police responses increase my respect for them. Threats of retribution because someone has upset you doesn't belong in a professional Police force.
Lou
Two Smoker
10th May 2004, 20:52
I can't claim be a devils advocate in some of these debates because I actually believe in what I post, although it is interesting how using provocative language does expose some peoples attitudes. None of these pro-Police responses increase my respect for them. Threats of retribution because someone has upset you doesn't belong in a professional Police force.
Lou
That is also true Lou :niceone: If you want to be in a job like that, you need a professional attitude, and there are some of them out there...... But it still doesnt mean joe bloggs can be a complete wank as well......
Sk8r_Boi_
10th May 2004, 21:06
I Have Been Breathilize Twice And The Thrid Time He Let Me Go And I Was Like Sweet Then I Started Riding Away And When He Wasnt Looking :whistle: I :kick: Him Right In The Balls And Went Take That :laugh:
And I Was Like "RIDE ON" :done:
marty
10th May 2004, 21:55
I Have Been Breathilize Twice And The Thrid Time He Let Me Go And I Was Like Sweet Then I Started Riding Away And When He Wasnt Looking :whistle: I :kick: Him Right In The Balls And Went Take That :laugh:
And I Was Like "RIDE ON" :done:
like Wow Man
marty
10th May 2004, 21:57
That explains it all, Spud. I get a ticket for towing an unladen trailer at 105K (with the flow, no overtaking opportunities etc etc) from a guy I assisted in not getting his skull kicked in a couple of weeks previously. This was in a small country town - cop knew me quite well. The ticket was "just doing his job". Made it all seem so worthwhile to me.
now that does suck. even i have to admit that (and i don't admit much....)
Lou Girardin
11th May 2004, 07:01
That is also true Lou :niceone: If you want to be in a job like that, you need a professional attitude, and there are some of them out there...... But it still doesnt mean joe bloggs can be a complete wank as well......
Joe Bloggs will always be a complete wank. But the Police don't have to respond on the same level. You need a thick skin to be a cop, it's apparent that many haven't.
Lou
Lou Girardin
11th May 2004, 07:03
I Have Been Breathilize Twice And The Thrid Time He Let Me Go And I Was Like Sweet Then I Started Riding Away And When He Wasnt Looking :whistle: I :kick: Him Right In The Balls And Went Take That :laugh:
And I Was Like "RIDE ON" :done:
Does your Mum know you're up so late.
Lou
jimbo600
11th May 2004, 07:41
That 250 metres is only a "gentlemans agreement", aparently a while ago some wanker decided to defend his speeding charge by measuring that he was only 247 metres inside the speed change when he got pinged! :doh:
The top cop in that area aparently sent out a message "don't worry about the 250 metres thing anymore, you don't need to cut them the slack anymore" amazing how some ding-a-ling can ruin it for the rest eh?
It's more than a gentlemans agreement, it policy. I have seen in written in their speed enforcement dogma. It also fails to mention that it only applies when transitting from high to low speed, but I'm sure good counsel would expose that easy enough in court. It's not policy if there is a school or roadworks nearby though.
"None of these pro-Police responses increase my respect for them. Threats of retribution because someone has upset you doesn't belong in a professional Police force..."
Lou, why do you hate the Police so much?
spudchucka
11th May 2004, 08:37
Threats of retribution because someone has upset you doesn't belong in a professional Police force.
Lou
FFS Lou who said anything about threats??? What I said was if you come off with the big aggro "fuck off" attitude you are going to find yourself being well known to all the local coppers. Its not a threat, its a reallity that the person with the attitude will get pulled over more often. Why? Because the cops remember who the pricks are!!
You place yourself on a very high and mighty pedestal for someone who was once a traffic cop.
Why have you got this allmighty chip on your shoulder?
Did you get chucked out on your arse at the merger?? Why? Too short, too old, too stupid, wrong attitude, couldn't pass the entrance exam, couldn't pass the physical fitness test?
Maybe you sued the department and lost?
What ever it is as I see it you are nothing but a bent and twisted ex traffic cop with a huge chip on his shoulder and a shitty attitude who likes writing letters.
spudchucka
11th May 2004, 11:52
That explains it all, Spud. I get a ticket for towing an unladen trailer at 105K (with the flow, no overtaking opportunities etc etc) from a guy I assisted in not getting his skull kicked in a couple of weeks previously. This was in a small country town - cop knew me quite well. The ticket was "just doing his job". Made it all seem so worthwhile to me.
I'm sorry that happened, the guy is a fool, especially in a small country town. The local cop really needs the locals on his side and this sort of stuff just alienates them, he'll learn.
spudchucka
11th May 2004, 11:55
"Lou, why do you hate the Police so much?
He's an ex TO with a huge chip on his shoulder.
(I just posted this because I wanted to get to 300 posts, I'm sure Lou will answer your question)
Firefight
11th May 2004, 15:41
I Have Been Breathilize Twice And The Thrid Time He Let Me Go And I Was Like Sweet Then I Started Riding Away And When He Wasnt Looking :whistle: I :kick: Him Right In The Balls And Went Take That :laugh:
And I Was Like "RIDE ON" :done:
Just wondering, are the primary school teachers on strike atm ?
F/F
What?
11th May 2004, 19:21
I'm sorry that happened, the guy is a fool, especially in a small country town. The local cop really needs the locals on his side and this sort of stuff just alienates them, he'll learn.
It was never meant to be an indictment on all cops, though, Spud. There's some good buggers out there (read my post about getting a warning for being 100 over), it's just the bad buggers give the rest a bad name. Same as anywhere else in society, but when it's the police the tarnish looks a whole heap worse. BTW, the cop in question left both the district and the force.
Andrew
11th May 2004, 19:21
I Have Been Breathilize Twice And The Thrid Time He Let Me Go And I Was Like Sweet Then I Started Riding Away And When He Wasnt Looking :whistle: I :kick: Him Right In The Balls And Went Take That :laugh:
And I Was Like "RIDE ON" :done:
You're an idiot. :angry:
What?
11th May 2004, 19:35
You're an idiot. :angry:
That education is really paying dividends now, Andrew! :niceone:
spudchucka
11th May 2004, 19:38
It was never meant to be an indictment on all cops, though, Spud. There's some good buggers out there (read my post about getting a warning for being 100 over), it's just the bad buggers give the rest a bad name. Same as anywhere else in society, but when it's the police the tarnish looks a whole heap worse. BTW, the cop in question left both the district and the force.
I did read your post and I'm not surprised he has since quit the job.
Deano
11th May 2004, 20:37
Wow, now this is livelier than the Hikoi thread.
Some cops are pricks, some aren't. Thats all Im saying....for now anyway.
What?
12th May 2004, 19:54
Some cops are pricks, some aren't.
Much like any sector of society...
Deano
12th May 2004, 20:04
Much like any sector of society...
Hard not to become conditioned when dealing with a lot of scumbags.
Tough job. I think I would be more than tempted to dish out some rough justice to paedophiles and rapists. But then you have to be sure they are guilty of course.
scumdog
13th May 2004, 07:59
I Have Been Breathilize Twice And The Thrid Time He Let Me Go And I Was Like Sweet Then I Started Riding Away And When He Wasnt Looking :whistle: I :kick: Him Right In The Balls And Went Take That :laugh:
And I Was Like "RIDE ON" :done:
And I'm like, this is so much of a windup and like sweet as, I can take a joke :)
OR my taxes are not getting spent fruitfully in the education scene and you are a sorry-arsed member of society - you never said what happened to you after you Went Take That??????
White trash
13th May 2004, 08:20
And I'm like, this is so much of a windup and like sweet as, I can take a joke :)
OR my taxes are not getting spent fruitfully in the education scene and you are a sorry-arsed member of society - you never said what happened to you after you Went Take That??????
He woke up with his pecker in his hand and is mum yeling "It's time for school, Sk8tey!"
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