FXR150 unsafe?

[Indiana_Jones]

lol found this little interesting arguement, they all sound like wanna be boy racers :laugh:

http://www.fxr150.ws.net.nz/view.php?topicID=80

They claim that the FXR has bad handling and braking, anyone want to comment?

-Indy

[Two Smoker]

Man that forum was absolutely GAY!!!!!!!!! "my bike is better than your bike" "no my bike is better than your bike"

To answer your question though, i haven't riden a FXR150 (unless you willing to offer me a ride hehehe) But a friend of mine that used to own a RG150, took a FXR150 for a spin, said it was absolutely guttless... I would assume the brakes a pretty good, as for the handling i dont know, but i know they generally have shitty tyres and come with shitty tyres, so they can't handle too well. But when it comes down to it i think it is an ok bike because it is reliable and a great commuter :niceone:

[Indiana_Jones]

I mean, you can't compare a RG150 to a FXR150, it's stupid :p
The tires arn't great on the FXR, abit skinny :D but plenty of tred on mine.

Also they go funny when u go around a round-a-bout (360 turn), maybe that's just my rookie skills though, should go on longer group rides :msn-wink:

-Indy

[Two Smoker]

Exactly, if we want a good debate, lets have a 250 4 vs 150 2 debate on the track hehehe, what kind of tyres to you run and how big are your chicken strips???? Its not all about the width of the tyre, it is mainly to do with set up of the suspension....

[Indiana_Jones]

I think the tyre's are stock, no idea, can't check now as the bike is in the garge behind the 4x4 :doh:

No idea about the suspension too :bleh:

-Indy

[Yamahamaman]

Indy

If the FXR does what you expect of it then no problem.

Evidence suggests that group rides don't really provide any learning experience unless it is in 'binning'.

Keep the rubber side down :ride:

Murray

[jrandom]

Ho hum.

The FXR is a 20bhp 150cc single-cylinder four-stroke that's pretty well built and comes cheaper here brand new than most 250cc bikes do second-hand with 30,000km on the clock. I've ridden most of the 250s around, and the FXR doesn't compare that unfavourably. Of course 20bhp is slower than 30 or 40. What do people expect? Buy a 40hp bike if you want a 40hp bike. Buy an RS or an RGV if you want a 65hp 250, but don't expect it to work flawlessly in the cold every morning when you need to get to work... particularly if it's a second-hand RGV...

I'm happy enough, and when I pick up that SV1000 in a year or two's time I shall look back fondly on the FXR with no regrets. There is definitely a place in the world for small, reliable, cheap motorcycles. May they never go out of fashion.

[Indiana_Jones]

Word :Punk:

-Indy

[Yamahamaman]

May they never go out of fashion.
Yup indeed. Great starting point.

[Antallica]

I probably will never sell mine, it so much fun to ride.
If I was to get an RG it'd be a RGV250 or an NSR ;)

We should compare ours on the dyno one day JR.

[curious george]

Man that forum was absolutely GAY!!!!!!!!! "my bike is better than your bike" "no my bike is better than your bike"

To answer your question though, i haven't riden a FXR150 (unless you willing to offer me a ride hehehe) But a friend of mine that used to own a RG150, took a FXR150 for a spin, said it was absolutely guttless... I would assume the brakes a pretty good, as for the handling i dont know, but i know they generally have shitty tyres and come with shitty tyres, so they can't handle too well. But when it comes down to it i think it is an ok bike because it is reliable and a great commuter :niceone:

PMPL!!! NO. mine's better!!!! Are those guys for real????
I thought the FXR I rode was quite nice actually

[wkid_one]

how big are your chicken strips???? Its not all about the width of the tyre, it is mainly to do with set up of the suspension....
It is actually more to do with the shape of the tyre. Big flat 190 and 180 tyres are easier to get to the edge of as that have a flat gentle curve and a big footbprint at the edge of the tyre. The smaller the tyre gets, general the more pointier the tyre - meaning you have to lean the bike further and further to get to the edge of the tyre.

Suspension apparently means very little to your chicken strips as all tyres and wheels are unsprung weight. Trye pressure, condition, compound, how parabolic the tyres are, width and the riders confidence have more impact on chicken strips than anything

[Marmoot]

Dudes, I have a fireblade and I WISH I have a Fixxer for everyday use.....
(Would be nicer if they come fully faired and with a 130 or 140 rear tyre, though)

In my younger days I had a Honda CB200. That was absolutely gutless compared to fixxer coz my Honda was only a SOHC while yours are DOHC. They do make quite a big difference. The CB200 was about 5 years behind in technology compared to the Fix, and despite the 50cc bigger engine it has about 5 hp less. In Blade term, 5hp is not much....but when you're in that kind of bike 5hp is actually 25%!!

FXR is a good bike for having, and quite enjoyable though not at Puke.
:ride:
P.S.
Anybody wanna sell a decent fixx for a $1500? (That's all I can afford atm)

P.P.S.
"Suspension apparently means very little to your chicken strips " to some extent. Suspension also influences on how often the wheel skips off the road surface (i.e., too little travel on bumpy roads mean the wheels will spend more time flying) thus also influences on wear pattern. Although, practically it would not be noticable at all on an fxr (i.e., not fast enough, not racing, not heavy enough, and they are mainly on very hard tyres anyway).

P.P.P.S.
Anyone wanna lend me one to have a go on SH22? I had an old GN250 once from Cyclespot and it was GREAT!!!

[FROSTY]

Hey ya can get pretty good skinny tyres if you want to. I'd betya it'd transform your bike. The bucket racer guys are riding old cb125 twins and singles but with sticky tyres. Yep they crash a lot--but then look at the extreme dangle angles they get too.
Tyre wear-ptfff on a bike so small -not a problem
Ohh and my opinion--great little bike -perfect learner machine
Marred only by having a breakable fairing.

[wkid_one]

"Suspension apparently means very little to your chicken strips " to some extent. Suspension also influences on how often the wheel skips off the road surface (i.e., too little travel on bumpy roads mean the wheels will spend more time flying) thus also influences on wear pattern.
Which again has little to do with how far the tyre is lent over (other than ruining the confidence of the rider)....a chicken strip represent only how far you tyre is from perpendicular to the road....

[dhunt]

I tested my mates FXR when he was thinking about getting it. I didn't notice anything about it that made it particullary more dangerous than any other bike. Braking wise it seemed pretty good to me. Wheels felt alright too.

Biggest problem for me was it was a bit gutless but hey it's not bad for a 150. Especially with a passenger.

David

[DEATH_INC.]

Which again has little to do with how far the tyre is lent over (other than ruining the confidence of the rider)....a chicken strip represent only how far you tyre is from perpendicular to the road....
Whats a chicken strip???? :whistle:

[fpsware]

Ho hum.

The FXR is a 20bhp 150cc single-cylinder four-stroke that's pretty well built and comes cheaper here brand new than most 250cc bikes do second-hand with 30,000km on the clock. I've ridden most of the 250s around, and the FXR doesn't compare that unfavourably. Of course 20bhp is slower than 30 or 40. What do people expect? Buy a 40hp bike if you want a 40hp bike. Buy an RS or an RGV if you want a 65hp 250, but don't expect it to work flawlessly in the cold every morning when you need to get to work... particularly if it's a second-hand RGV...

I'm happy enough, and when I pick up that SV1000 in a year or two's time I shall look back fondly on the FXR with no regrets. There is definitely a place in the world for small, reliable, cheap motorcycles. May they never go out of fashion.
I had my FXR for nearly 2 years. I toured the South Island in 2 weeks doing over 3500Kms on it. I regularly rode from Hamilton to Tauranga to Auckland on it most weekends. Its given me a lot of great memories. For a learner bike I think its a fantastic start. True it is a little gutless, and I found it very dangerous to ride in stong winds. But thats all I can fault it with. My FXR rocked.

[Marmoot]

Whats a chicken strip???? :whistle:

Strips of chicken fillet battered in Colonel's SECRET spice. Don't you know?
:kick:

A side note: the fixxer might be related to high risk due to the fact that it is commonly used by learners and they have high risk to be involved in an accident (d'oh....statistics....).

HEY If anybody with fxr got NOS, I'd pay $50 a pop to try it out!!!

[Two Smoker]

It is actually more to do with the shape of the tyre. Big flat 190 and 180 tyres are easier to get to the edge of as that have a flat gentle curve and a big footbprint at the edge of the tyre. The smaller the tyre gets, general the more pointier the tyre - meaning you have to lean the bike further and further to get to the edge of the tyre.

Suspension apparently means very little to your chicken strips as all tyres and wheels are unsprung weight. Trye pressure, condition, compound, how parabolic the tyres are, width and the riders confidence have more impact on chicken strips than anything
Yep i know that :niceone: my question about his chicken strips was in direct relation to his riding capabilities, not the handling. When i was talking about the suspension set up, it was in relation to the so called "dodgy handling" of the FXR.... Man im constantly looking like a screw up for not explaining my posts fully :doh: ......

[Motoracer]

I have said my bit (in there). Couldn't be bothered with reading more than a few posts of that crap.

[Coldkiwi]

I have said my bit (in there). Couldn't be bothered with reading more than a few posts of that crap.

good on ya.. i read about 20 posts of whiney feckin prima donnas and closed the window!!! :whocares:
I couldn't take no more pain!!! :kick:

Three Cheers for Kiwibiker!!! (we don't know how lucky we are)

[Two Smoker]

good on ya.. i read about 20 posts of whiney feckin prima donnas and closed the window!!! :whocares:
I couldn't take no more pain!!! :kick:

Three Cheers for Kiwibiker!!! (we don't know how lucky we are)
Three cheers alright, shows how great this site is :niceone:

[curious george]

Awww, jezz, you sensible people came along and stopped a perfectly childish argument from attention seeking tossers. http://www.fxr150.ws.net.nz/view.php?topicID=80

Heehee. Go the Kiwi Biker!!!

[Antallica]

I've been chatting to the owner of the site and he's sick of the FXR bashing as well. I might end up helping him make his site look better.

[Big Dog]

Never Ridden one but that won't stop me putting my 2c in.


I see them being ridden by wanna be stunters in heavy traffic, they appear to be having fun (the main objective?).

They seem to handle really well given the design parameters and although I shudder at the thought of being seen on one (I make my bike look small) for the target demographic they look to be ideal and anyone who would criticise based on displacement or girth has some serious issues and needs their head read as they clearly base all thinking in the lower head.

Diversity is cool.

by the way which would you be prouder to own,
A 15 second fxr150 or a 1300 Hayabusa doing 9s? :Pokey:

[Two Smoker]

I would be proud of whatever bike i owned because it would be MY bike and i would be having fun on it hehehe (although the CT110 scares me :crazy: )

[bane]

Standard tyres pretty scary in the wet and bit dodgy in side winds.
Otherwise a great starter bike.
- keeps up with cars (generally)
- cruises okay at 100kph
- so light and flickable
- 25 km/L (~80mpg) easy
- so cheap to maintain

unsafe? imo, only a rider can make a bike unsafe :yes:

[Antallica]

by the way which would you be prouder to own,
A 15 second fxr150 or a 1300 Hayabusa doing 9s? :Pokey:

Nope, I wouldn't have the 1300... for one thing I probably can't lift it up ;)

[speedpro]

I've got a little supercharger. Done properly it would scare a few 400s I reckon, not to mention the pilot of the 150.

Didn't Dennis Charlett race a FXR150 and get respectable sorts of results recently??

[Kickaha]

I've got a little supercharger. Done properly it would scare a few 400s I reckon, not to mention the pilot of the 150.

Didn't Dennis Charlett race a FXR150 and get respectable sorts of results recently??


I saw Dennis racing and winning the 150 class at the first Liquor King 500 but that was on a RG150.

Hows the supercharger project going? we hope to have the turbo XL100 up and running in about a month

[moko]

We dont have either on sale in the U.K. but from what I`ve picked up they`re starter bikes mainly bought by young guys.In my experience that means that they probably have got shit brakes,suspension e.t.c. but for the simple reason that they`re not maintained properly,either through ignorance or being bought by people on a tight budget in the first place.125 trail bikes are very popular here with learners and without exception from the showroom they`re great little bikes but you need to take a lot of care buying used as more often than not they`ve been totally abused.I see gangs of young guys with them and often they`ve got designer gear on,expensive Helmet because that looks good and shagged tyres and a knackered chain,never looked too close but I suspect the suspension and brakes are in a similar state.I know a couple of guys with KMX125 Kawasakis that have had serious miles out of them and plenty of off-road fun too,mature blokes that look after their machines.More typically you`ll see 2 or 3 year-old versions that look about 5 years older than that and aren`t worth touching because they need a total overhaul.Young guy scrapes up his life savings for one of the latter and yes the brakes are shit,it rattles like a bitch,the handling`s all over the place and the suspension bottoms out,isnt the bike`s fault though.

[jrandom]

We dont have either on sale in the U.K. but from what I`ve picked up they`re starter bikes mainly bought by young guys.In my experience that means that they probably have got shit brakes,suspension e.t.c. but for the simple reason that they`re not maintained properly

Good points... however, the FXR is actually a decent little machine, light and rigid, good brakes. With nice rubber on it handles rather well.

And *I* change my oil every 3000km and get the Colemans Suzuki workshop here in Auckland to go over the bike every 6000. Dunno about all the other FXR riders.

But then I probably don't quite fit your demographic of the idiot poser teen with no money.

[jrandom]

I see them being ridden by wanna be stunters in heavy traffic, they appear to be having fun (the main objective?).

Plural? There's more than one of me? :p



They seem to handle really well given the design parameters and although I shudder at the thought of being seen on one (I make my bike look small) for the target demographic they look to be ideal

You're welcome to have a go on mine for giggles any time, you know. Might have to change the settings on the rear shock, though :whistle:

And yes, it does the getting-me-around job remarkably well.

[moko]

But then I probably don't quite fit your demographic of the idiot poser teen with no money.

I think you just backed up my point mate,the 2 guys I mentioned that had KMX`s that were looked after,one had his from new,maintained it meticulously and had it for 8 years with no problems at all,the other was 25 and likewise maintained his bike religiously,did amateur off-road events at the weekend and rode it to work through the week.Most however are mercilessly thrashed by young lads,great little bikes but only so much abuse a bike will take.

[Antallica]

I loves mah FXR, LOVES MAH FXR.

/fin

[Two Smoker]

I think you just backed up my point mate,the 2 guys I mentioned that had KMX`s that were looked after,one had his from new,maintained it meticulously and had it for 8 years with no problems at all,the other was 25 and likewise maintained his bike religiously,did amateur off-road events at the weekend and rode it to work through the week.Most however are mercilessly thrashed by young lads,great little bikes but only so much abuse a bike will take.
I keep my RG well maintained, and the big difference between the bikes you refer to and the RG is that the RG is a sport/road machine..... Brakes a pretty damn good because it is so light, when im doing 180kmh down the backstraight of Pukekohe i leave braking for the hairpin to the 80 metre mark, so they haul up pretty well.....

Can completely understand about the so called bikers, with flash gear and bikes in very poor states....

[Big Dog]

Plural? There's more than one of me? :p




You're welcome to have a go on mine for giggles any time, you know. Might have to change the settings on the rear shock, though :whistle:

And yes, it does the getting-me-around job remarkably well.
Point one. Yes, there is a little shit who rides around k-road a lot. Every time he gasses it when I am on my bike the front wheel comes off the ground and every time he brakes the back comes up. :moon:

When I am not on the bike he is gentle as :killingme

Point two, you might need to rename it a Suzuki G-String 150 :killingme

I can't anyway.... I'm uninsured at the mo.

Point three, I guess that makes it a better buy than someone who spent twice as much on a second hand 15yr old bike they can't afford to service or put gas in (especially at $1.29 a litre for unleaded :spudwhat: ), or the gear to protect them on it. :not:

:edit: Point one- He is on a black one with black gear.

[Sk8r_Boi_]

Not my being rude or anything, but i would never thats right never own a suzuki fxr150 it my whole life spain i they are unsafe yes unsafe they have like the smallest back wheel and a even smaller front one jesus man and ppl say they are safe :laugh: i say watch out for the :scooter: you may see some pass you :buggerd:

[aff-man]

I am a bit skittish about thin tyres/bad rubber due to some interesting experiences. But wouldn't ming giving one of them a go. I know my zxr is pretty agile but would like to find out how the fxr compares. As to racing them ok who will be the first to buy a cheap fxr and add a supercharger,turbo,nos,larger rear wheel, modified fuel injection system, Fully customised fairings. I would love to see the face of a guy who thinks he is the shit being hammered by an fxr . As to chicken strips it is all to do with the tyres i think. More radial = harger to get to the edge, and it also depends on riding position. So in conclusion all you 150 owners = :Punk: . You could teach us fella's a thing or two.

[Big Dog]

Not my being rude or anything, but i would never thats right never own a suzuki fxr150 it my whole life spain i they are unsafe yes unsafe they have like the smallest back wheel and a even smaller front one jesus man and ppl say they are safe :laugh: i say watch out for the :scooter: you may see some pass you :buggerd:
Would that be penis envy or just plain balls envy?

Don't have the Nards to go that hard?
Anyone can ride a ZXR well. They are designed that way, to conceal the bad habits and poor skills of the learner rider.

Anyone who can keep up on a FXR has my respect :not: over someone who keeps up on a ZXR.

Are they unsafe? Depends on the rider and their attitude to safety.

I have been passed several times by mr Random and feel no shame at all, however I have felt more than a little embarrased by a few ZXR riders and their obvious inability to ride safely despite a package containing all the neccesary goods.

Also if you want to know how safe a bike is try to insure it.

You will find the ZXR costs a lot more to insure. This could be becuase it has more ponies but more likely it is because more people have written off ZXR's. On this Forum alone (purely anecdotaly) we have more FXR's, nad more doing stunts, and yet they report less bins and even less write off's coincedence?

A bikes best safety feature should always be its rider.

[Big Dog]

As to chicken strips it is all to do with the tyres i think. More radial = harger to get to the edge, and it also depends on riding position. So in conclusion all you 150 owners = :Punk: . You could teach us fella's a thing or two.
Totally, My front sides are warn out but not the centre or the chicken strips. This could be because my Pillion pegs touch the road before I get to the strips (front hero blobs not far behind).

[Menial]

i really wouldn't call it a poser bike at all. If I were a poser i'd be a mod and go for a vespa, or a cbr...

[Posh Tourer :P]

I am a bit skittish about thin tyres/bad rubber due to some interesting experiences. But wouldn't ming giving one of them a go. I know my zxr is pretty agile but would like to find out how the fxr compares. As to racing them ok who will be the first to buy a cheap fxr and add a supercharger,turbo,nos,larger rear wheel, modified fuel injection system, Fully customised fairings. I would love to see the face of a guy who thinks he is the shit being hammered by an fxr . As to chicken strips it is all to do with the tyres i think. More radial = harger to get to the edge, and it also depends on riding position. So in conclusion all you 150 owners = :Punk: . You could teach us fella's a thing or two.

Give it a go, it'll certainly improve your riding skills....I have not really ridden with road tyres (CB125T, MZETZ 250 and beemer - all have "touring" tyres or as KK said "mate you dont even have real tyres on that!") but at some point I might post my chicken strips on the beemer...I guess it'll be mainly balls on the dangle angle once I get a go on the ZXR400 with "real" tyres... I'm fairly confident i can identify the edge of grip though, and gas it just up to that point.... great fun when you are almost countersteering on the beemer

[speedpro]

Not my being rude or anything, but i would never thats right never own a suzuki fxr150 it my whole life spain i they are unsafe yes unsafe they have like the smallest back wheel and a even smaller front one jesus man and ppl say they are safe :laugh: i say watch out for the :scooter: you may see some pass you :buggerd:
I've said it before, and not always in relation to bike tyres, big is not always better. Wide wheels/tyres can really affect handling adversely, especially as the tyres wear. I've raced with 90 section wheels front and rear and they were fine, on a 100.

[FROSTY]

well Im gonna find out it seems--Im doing a deal trading a fxr in on a car
as i recall skinny tyres are better on dirt roads too

[speedpro]

I've also done a few laps of the full Manfeild circuit in very close company to some guy on a ZXR400 with wide wheels, slicks, smooth bores, etc. All this on a little 100cc bike with 1.6" wide rims and little skinny Yokohama slicks. Size does matter but big is not always better. Having said that the bike does now have 2.15" rims but that is just to fit modern tyres which require wider rims. The actual tyre sizes are still almost the same.

[FROSTY]

sounds like thats one bloody fast bucket. Heck we used to run yoki sprints at about 18 psi -almost rolling off the rims just to get enough heat into em

[speedpro]

sounds like thats one bloody fast bucket. Heck we used to run yoki sprints at about 18 psi -almost rolling off the rims just to get enough heat into em
Back in the good old days! I can go back further than that - Yokohama World Tours or if the budget wasn't a problem then French TT100GPs. You could actually wear them smooth on the edges but have 90% tread still in the middle. I think 75 or 85X18 were the sizes, tiny but STICKY.