"Noise Off" web site

[bernardf]

this is scary and is coming to a town near you
http://www.noiseoff.org/motorcycles.shtml

[Waylander]

They can go and get fucked. Stage a protest at a bike shop my ass, wouldn't slow anything down.

[Quartida]

"The intense roaring vibrational noise of a motorcycle can travel long distances through walls and windows. It is a low frequency noise that cannot be localized. People who are exposed to this type of noise on daily basis suffer from hearing loss, sleep deprivation, chronic fatigue, anxiety, hostility, depression and hypertension." (from link)

..."However, other people who are exposed to this noise every day experience heightened senses of reality, extreme pleasure, freedom and carefreeness. They are more likely to be happy and are less likely to be stuck in noisy traffic and cancer-inducing fumes. They is believed to lead to a more exciting and fulfilling life.:scooter:"

[Madness]

Do not approach or attempt to reason with loud bikers. When possible, take down their license plate number and call the police. Speak to police officials and demand stronger enforcement on noise from illegally modified pipes.

This planet is becoming untolerable, I'm getting off.

[terbang]

Fuck em.......

[bernardf]

Check out the whole site they want everything that makes a noise stopped even lawnmowers and weedeaters/leafblowers just a bunch of killjoys who don't have a life

[Big Dave]

More like 'jerk off'.

[Motu]

''In America''...explains it all - who gives a fuck what they think.

[bernardf]

they aren't just in America matey they are here alive and plotting right now

[Waylander]

''In America''...explains it all - who gives a fuck what they think.
Western Springs mate.

[MSTRS]

These brainwashed tossers are indeed here. Does show that a 'united stand' can work. The unfortunate part is that in countries subject to this bullshit, the prevailing system is democracy. Yea right.

[bernardf]

yep Western Springs are just the start of the wowzer brigade ,these shitheads want everyone to be very quiet and peaceful and not live life

[The Pastor]

But who says that loud pipes are right, and people who want quite pipes are right? They are just as entitled to thier opion as you are to yours. Try living next to a gang hq and you will quickly see there POV, Although I like loud bikes I can understand where they are coming from, How ever The western springs saga was a very clear example of the labour government (they have infulenced the way of thinking in mainstreme media, local government and schools) bending over backwards for the minority and ignoring the majoirty. Time for us to follow fiji and have a coo (No idea how to spell that one)

[eliot-ness]

UK, mid 190s a group who called themselves the Lord's Day Observance Society tried to have all sports banned on Sunday. They were treated as a joke until they teamed up with another group, the Noise Abatement Society. Together they had the numbers to lobby parliament and came very close to getting their way. Sustained lobbying by motor sports groups stopped them but it was a close call. Never underestimate fanatics. They can be very determined.

[u4ea]

fuck them!!!!!!!!when i had my 250 with quite pipes cages pulled out in front of me.at give ways........got an 850 with some scorpions and the buggers gave way..............i am all for a bit of rumble and am keen to know who voted for noise nanas..........was it a sick joke??????????:headbang:

[gamgee]

"People who are exposed to this type of noise on daily basis suffer from hearing loss, sleep deprivation, chronic fatigue, anxiety, hostility, depression and hypertension." (from link)

isn't it convenient how it's difficult to actually diagnose a person with any of the above... and the ones that are detectable, how can they possibly prove that loud exhausts are a contributing factor??
then i read this on the boom cars part:
"If you see a car audio shop opening up in your community, organize with your neighbors and stage a protest. Make picket signs and send a media alert to local newspaper and television news outlets so they can cover the event."
this tosser if off his rocker!

[Maha]

Hardly's sound way better with unmodified pipes, they sound fucken sweet, unlike the ' look at me, im the coolest prick on this road ' sound. :no:

[Hitcher]

This issue isn't as simple as a "yes" versus "no" response to a poll.

Bikers need to acknowledge that they live in a wider community. While, for some the deep bark of an unmuffled Harley or the howl of an inline-four stirs their soul in a manner similar to the plaintive cry of a timberwolf or some other primeval urge, others like a quieter life.

The politically-correct move amongst us with the patience of a glacier. They need to be vociferously resisted where applicable. Their cause will be greatly enabled by red-necked, unmuffled bikers.

In the case of noise controls, the "truth" will lie somewhere between the extremes of "yes" or "no".

[u4ea]

Hardly's sound way better with unmodified pipes, they sound fucken sweet, unlike the ' look at me, im the coolest prick on this road ' sound. :no:
granted but motorcycling is about being out there and doing it..............??????i know someone whos done that to his 1200 harley and it is loud but he does it for his own enjoyment and both he and his wife are not out to bring negative attention,are loved by their neihgbours and i will ride with them anyday...........

[crazyxr250rider]

Fucken PC pussies Like the idiots who complained about the possum that was killed at school....

[Hitcher]

Like the idiots who complained about the possum that was killed at school...
And those who don't like seeing sportspeople spitting.

Or no scores being kept during primary school sports games.

Or people who think that SUVs are safe.

[Swoop]

"having a protest outside a bikeshop"....

Darwin in action...

[myvice]

I'll try and help by going past them as fast as possible to keep the duration time down...
Anything to help them sleep at night, wankers, don’t they have bigger problems in there sorry little lives?
What’s next? Sorry you can’t have a red bike caus it’s too bright and shiny, might disturb the kids ya know.
If they can push this through why cant we ban cell phones in cars and tell them to shove the ACC theft?

[Big Dave]

''In America''...explains it all - who gives a fuck what they think.


Sadam Hussain.

[sels1]

This issue isn't as simple as a "yes" versus "no" response to a poll.
In the case of noise controls, the "truth" will lie somewhere between the extremes of "yes" or "no".


Hear hear! (:laugh: )

[Mr. Peanut]

:mellow: And we're hiding weapons of mass destruction... :tugger:

[Quartida]

In the case of noise controls, the "truth" will lie somewhere between the extremes of "yes" or "no".

While I completely agree with you, Hitcher, I think it's more the blatant extremism that's got everyone up in arms. :mega:

After all, a bike can be noisy, and oftentimes they probably are too noisy (especially late at night). But part of the world is learning to negotiate. This site puts up a "not-negotiable" front which is at odds with a peaceful, give-and-take society.

You can't just look for a blanket ban on something because it annoys you and a select group of your comrades. After all, if that was the case, then half of KB would try to ban cages on the roads.

Like you say, the truth lies between "yes" and "no". It's just too bad that this group appears to be a little too keen on the "yes".

[What?]

Whilst they do make one or two valid points, they are just another bunch of politically correct tossers who truly believe it is their right to have their cake and eat it, too.
Unfortunatley, we have politically correct governments who listen to them...

[Insanity_rules]

Who in their right mind would take on bikers?????

If you believe that a bike is illegally loud and its bothering you, deal with it via the appropriate authorities. Don't feckin tar us all with the same brush. Don't we have a little thing in this country called freedom? These guys are trying to stamp on ours. They have the right to say whatever they like but hells teeth! PC thuggery at its finest.

[Squeak the Rat]

"People who are exposed to this type of noise on daily basis suffer from hearing loss, sleep deprivation, chronic fatigue, anxiety, hostility, depression and hypertension." (from link)isn't it convenient how it's difficult to actually diagnose a person with any of the above... and the ones that are detectable, how can they possibly prove that loud exhausts are a contributing factor??
It's called depression. My guess is this person's mental illness causes his/her obsession with noise, not the other way around....

I'm going to email them suggesting they talk to a psychologist.


[Edit:] for the record, I suspect they do have a few more bikers running around on VERY loud bikes over there, not talking same league as a gixxer with a yoshi pipe.

[Lou Girardin]

Unfortunately this is a fact of life in Merika now. Harley have a campaign going to discourage loud pipes. On the '06 models you can't do a debaffle without fitting a PC3. Earlier models just needed a download to the ECU.
And working at a Harley shop as I do, I know how annoying a Harley with straight pipes is. Imagine what the plebs think of it.

[Paul in NZ]

We had a thread like this the other day?

As I mentioned then, Vicki and I took doggin's for a trot up the hill the other day and appart from the trum of tyres that you get on shw 1 at any time the most noticed noise was... HD's with big kick arse straight pipes... Now i reckon my Guzzi is loud, loud enough where I would not fire it up after 9pm during the week but it is nothing compared to these things, they are LOUD!

It's just bloody stupid! Most everyone likes a nice note from the ole CO2 drainpipe but there are limits FFS.

When I'm in the mood for a ride, I love letting the Guzzler rip but when I'm not riding I like peace and quiet... Much like all the other people not riding as you ride past.. Just a matter of degrees..

In my opinion....

[jonbuoy]

Why can't they make some kind of powervalve system in the exhaust to kick in a baffle? either operated by a switch or on a certain throttle setting? If youre in a built up area or you want to sneak outta the house in the wee hours you can have stealth mode on, then when you get out on the road kick in the full noise. Wouldn't be too hard to tell the ECU that its on free flow or baffled exhaust.

[Hitcher]

If youre in a built up area or you want to sneak outta the house in the wee hours you can have stealth mode on, then when you get out on the road kick in the full noise.
Or the other way around. At highway speed I've never been able to hear the exhaust note on what I'm riding -- including my ZRX1200R that had a lovely throaty Neptune can on it. I had the most personal pleasure from a modified exhaust by making it gurgle and pop around town, delinquent that I am...

[Ixion]

Back when I had my Jawa, the noisiest motorcycle in the history of the planet (until the local snake made me put the original zorst back on :headbang: ) people (usually old or boring ones) were always coming up and complaining abut the noise. I found an effective response was to look blankly at them , and then say in a very loud voice, while shaking my head from side to side "Eh, what? Sorry, can you speak a bit louder, I can't hear you. This damn thing makes so much noise that I can't hear anything for hours afterward". Repeat until they go away.

What I would like is what old time cars had - an exhaust cut out valve.So normally the bike is very nice and quiet. Enables you to sneak up on people, them unsuspecting. Then open the cutout and it's really noisy. If anyone complains to the plod, just show them your nice quiet bike.

A spud does the same trick, but it's too fiddey taking it in and out.

Harleys aren't that noisey, try a big two stroke on expansion chambers. Very antisocial and environmentally irresponsible are two strokes. I like them .

[Mr. Peanut]

Just a thought... :mellow:

What happens when one of these noise activist's kids gets run over by a silent electric car?

[Lou Girardin]

Why can't they make some kind of powervalve system in the exhaust to kick in a baffle? either operated by a switch or on a certain throttle setting? If youre in a built up area or you want to sneak outta the house in the wee hours you can have stealth mode on, then when you get out on the road kick in the full noise. Wouldn't be too hard to tell the ECU that its on free flow or baffled exhaust.

It's illegal here. How you'd get on with vinning a new Aston will be interesting. That's what they've got.

[crash harry]

It's illegal here. How you'd get on with vinning a new Aston will be interesting. That's what they've got.

Well, it's mostly illegal. Basically any circumvention device is illegal, so you can have the valve in your exhaust, but it still has to comply with the noise regulations with the valve open or shut. I was looking at doing a similar thing to my car a while back - it's not that loud, but the exhaust drones a bit and it gets annoying on long trips. Would be nice to have a butterfly valve to open up the full muffler when on power and have a little quiet one for cruising. AFAIK R33 Skylines have exactly that in the standard exhaust...

[bernardf]

as was said before noise is subjective
i worked with an ex traffic cop a few years ago and he told me that one day back in the 70's one of his brethren was screaming over the radio that this bike was cruising making all sorts of noise ,so when he saw it he duelly pulled it over , turns out it was a CB350 honda 4 with a stock exhaust

[Waylander]

But who says that loud pipes are right, and people who want quite pipes are right? They are just as entitled to thier opion as you are to yours. Try living next to a gang hq and you will quickly see there POV, Although I like loud bikes I can understand where they are coming from, How ever The western springs saga was a very clear example of the labour government (they have infulenced the way of thinking in mainstreme media, local government and schools) bending over backwards for the minority and ignoring the majoirty. Time for us to follow fiji and have a coo (No idea how to spell that one)
Have no p[roblem with peaple that have thier own opinions. It's when they try to force thier opinions into controling my lifestyle that causes conflict.

[The Pastor]

Have no p[roblem with peaple that have thier own opinions. It's when they try to force thier opinions into controling my lifestyle that causes conflict.


Ah yes BUT if you are keeping somone awake because of you said "loud" pipe, are you not controlling THERE lifestyle?

I think the valve idea is a marvellous idea, there are just as many times I want my bike quite as I want it loud, I think it would work best on half throtle quite full throttle loud.

[Waylander]

Ah yes BUT if you are keeping somone awake because of you said "loud" pipe, are you not contoling THERE lifestyle?
I'm polite enough to roll down to the end of the drive (appartment type place) so as not to bother the others in the area since I leave here at 6:30am. But be damned if I'll make my bike quieter. I've compromised a bit so can they.

[Quartida]

Good call. Compromise goes both ways. No-one should expect you to completely change YOUR lifestyle to fit in with their world view. There's got to be some give and take.

[The Pastor]

I'm polite enough to roll down to the end of the drive (appartment type place) so as not to bother the others in the area since I leave here at 6:30am. But be damned if I'll make my bike quieter. I've compromised a bit so can they.


Have they complained?

[outlawtorn]

They can go and get fucked. Stage a protest at a bike shop my ass, wouldn't slow anything down.
hear hear!!!!! To quote an old mate of mine : "fuck 'em all, 'cept for me an my dawg, and when i die you can fuck him too!!!!"

[Waylander]

Have they complained?
Yes.

and more words

[Free Rider]

screw them.. just makes me want to get a louder exhuast! lol :headbang: