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I think NZ on Air needs to fund a motorcycle show.
It could promote the motorcycle "seen" in a different light, I guess?
Sorta like that performance car show on sundays.
You could have ole WT hosting the show with regular guess spots of mates talking about bikes.. Heh
I reckon it would be a bloody good show
Won't work. "motorcycle show' has white man written all over it.
NZ On Air doesn't fund majority viewing
Won't work. "motorcycle show' has white man written all over it.
Whats that got to do with the price of sex?
Whats that got to do with the price of sex?
A banana how long?
A banana how long?
Purple monkey bathtub
You're onto me
Sorry, didn't see you there!
SkOrM
14th May 2006, 22:18
would be nice... but finns right TV NZ wont find majority stuff.
KB Forums and KB rides are entertainment enough
would be nice... but finns right TV NZ wont find majority stuff.
KB Forums and KB rides are entertainment enough
Who's gunna suck that Ralston fullas huha?
Bags not me!
But seriously would be worth a try? Even some other telly production companies?
bobsmith
14th May 2006, 22:36
I think its a great idea!!!
Hmmm though, I haven't see a good idea on tv in a long time and definately not in something that was made in NZ. (the only tvshow I like at the moment is House and that only because the character House, must be the only person I've ever seen who's as cynical and realistic as me most of the time)
So I don't know about the likelyhood of it becomming reality but hell, it's a great idea.
limbimtimwim
14th May 2006, 22:51
I've watched TV on Sundays as well (Bike in bits and I'm poor) and thought about it too. That Performance Car TV show is mainly strung together by that Performance Car (PAH!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE NOT PERFORMANCE CARS!! THEY ARE PENIS COMPENSATORS!!! But I digress...) magazine. So their journalists (...) are already at the events (Drifting, drags, whatever) already covering it, so they bring along some cameras. Also there is a bigger industry spending money on cars. Seems part of the 'performance car' mentality involves spending money on your ride, rather than having the skill to use it properly. The stereotype asian student with lots of money. The westie with debt up to his ears and a habit of five finger discounts.
So yeah, my point is, there is more money and interest in a show like Performance Car TV than there is in "Talking shit about bikes".
But is 'Performance Car TV' funded by NZ On Air? TVNZ? Prime (It played there first) I doubt it. Like 'Back of the Y' it is probably exactly what it appears, folks with DV cams making a TV show about what they find interesting.
Mind you, I have this 'build it and they will come' thought nagging in the back of my mind whenever I think about it. I've put some thought into it. Also, you'll note on TV3 today at 5:30 they had a show on about mud-plugging in 4WDs, which was quite cool to watch as you were waiting for it to roll over. Which they did. At low speed. So fun for all the family. But, the mud-plugging would be much less popular than motorcycles. So there is hope for us..
Anyway, if someone gave me a camera and a microphone, I'd do something. Chicken and egg situation. Always been interested in creating that sort of content.
I am rambling.
oldrider
14th May 2006, 22:56
I think its a great idea!!!
Hmmm though, I haven't see a good idea on tv in a long time and definately not in something that was made in NZ. (the only tvshow I like at the moment is House and that only because the character House, must be the only person I've ever seen who's as cynical and realistic as me most of the time)
So I don't know about the likelyhood of it becomming reality but hell, it's a great idea.
Any idea is a good idea, all you gotta do is find a way to make it happen.
Finn is not going to make it happen, he is right but only from his perspective.
I have no idea how you should proceed but I think you should keep going.
So, where to from here? Have you got any contacts in NZ on air?
Beemer might be able to give you a lead, she is very resourceful!
IT is a good idea, make it happen. Cheers, John.
I would want to do a Scrapheap Challenge - send us into bike wreckers and we all make a bike out of scrap and ride it from Cape Reinga to Bluff.That's my kind of thing....
Squeak the Rat
15th May 2006, 08:35
Having a show about bikes could be potentially dangerous. Do we really want the PC crowd to find out things like:
Modern sportsbikes can get close to 320km/hr
They can get to 100km/hr in 3-4 seconds
This is quicker than 99% of cars on our roads
These bikes are readily available, costing as little as $12,000
Kids aged 18 can and are buying these bikes
They are on a road near YOU
Most of the general public don't quite comprehend the performance of a modern sports bike. They would shit themselves if they found out and there would be calls to ban or restrict bikes etc etc etc. Campbell would do a piece, then legislation would be passed to increase registration to deter people from riding these dangerous machines.......
Don't do it!!!!
Depends if you want to show off or not - but I guess there are a lot of exibitionists out there....they are not that far removed from Boi Racers,just 2 less wheels.Motorcycle enthusiasts might be harder to find...
White trash
15th May 2006, 09:05
So I'd get to do a wheelie on TV?
Ixion
15th May 2006, 09:17
Any TV show about street motorcycles will focus on Harley Davidson.
So I'd get to do a wheelie on TV?
That would be a yes...lol
It would cover all the small events that don't get TV time, Gladstone hill climb, the rapa sprints? you know just to help the funding of the events.
:pinch: :eyepoke:
Any TV show about street motorcycles will focus on Harley Davidson.
knuckles
15th May 2006, 09:30
Any TV show about street motorcycles will focus on Harley Davidson.
Fuck ,your a wanker..
Recon this is one of the better ideas ive heard for a while...kiwi bike culture over the last 100 years.
Squeak the Rat
15th May 2006, 09:35
Fuck ,your a wanker..
Recon this is one of the better ideas ive heard for a while...kiwi bike culture over the last 100 years.
Yeah, but you probably don't have that many ideas do you.....
He wasn't putting down harleys he was making a comment that most bike shows tend to focus on them.
Yeah, but you probably don't have that many ideas do you.....
He wasn't putting down harleys he was making a comment that most bike shows tend to focus on them.
Bike shows would focus on them cause they are twice the price of a fucken mint jappa.
But not this one, the sports bike market is building up to explode, and a show would be a great idea to help get the bike seen out there, giving advice on safe riding etc gear blah blah
Nicksta
15th May 2006, 09:42
I think its a good idea....
probably hard to get in motion tho...
yell if you need me to host a "from the pillion seat" segment for ya...
Nicksta
15th May 2006, 09:44
oh... and you could do segments with overseas bike shows like the one i'll be at in a few weeks in the states.... bike week is so much fun....
Colapop
15th May 2006, 09:44
Given the number of bikes on the road currently and the number of bikes that will be purchased (no doubt due to fuel prices) I think this is a bloody good idea. You only have to look at the number of diffent types of bikes out there to see this programme will appeal to a wide demographic. There's no reason why it cannot be based around a Top Gear type format with a presenter or two who aren't between 16 and 21. Big Dave would be a perfect producer (not volunteering anyone) and Sarge could do voice overs for it (He does them already).
Adventure riding, trials, quads, scooters, tourers, sports... there is just so much programme content available. Not to mention bike reviews - "GN250, They're everywhere". A season of 10 half hour or hour long shows on a Sunday arvo would be quite good.
Given the number of bikes on the road currently and the number of bikes that will be purchased (no doubt due to fuel prices) I think this is a bloody good idea. You only have to look at the number of diffent types of bikes out there to see this programme will appeal to a wide demographic. There's no reason why it cannot be based around a Top Gear type format with a presenter or two who aren't between 16 and 21. Big Dave would be a perfect producer (not volunteering anyone) and Sarge could do voice overs for it (He does them already).
Adventure riding, trials, quads, scooters, tourers, sports... there is just so much programme content available. Not to mention bike reviews - "GN250, They're everywhere". A season of 10 half hour or hour long shows on a Sunday arvo would be quite good.
Hell yeah, specially if you have old fullas on there that know what the hell they are on about :)
The Kiwibiker Show?
LOL Gottah have WINJA on the show, FHM has Mark Brandon Reed:laugh:
Ixion
15th May 2006, 09:48
..But not this one, the sports bike market is building up to explode, ,,
Is it? I'm not so sure. In fact the bike market that is exploding in NZ is the scooter market. With midline all rounders like the EL6N coming on strong.And big cruisers and Harleys doing well. Pure sportsbikes seem to me to be holding their own, but no more .Maybe if you include Buells as sportsbikes, but not otherwise.
Oh, and the minichoppers and such like. In the eyes of the public they're all motorcycles.
And the biggest single bike market by far in NZ is the off road one.
Is it? I'm not so sure. In fact the bike market that is exploding in NZ is the scooter market. With midline all rounders like the EL6N coming on strong.And big cruisers and Harleys doing well. Pure sportsbikes seem to me to be holding their own, but no more .Maybe if you include Buells as sportsbikes, but not otherwise.
Oh, and the minichoppers and such like. In the eyes of the public they're all motorcycles.
And the biggest single bike market by far in NZ is the off road one.
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Hitcher
15th May 2006, 09:55
Didn't Jonathan Bentman host something on Sky a few years ago? I seem to remember seeing something -- and enjoying it.
Didn't Jonathan Bentman host something on Sky a few years ago? I seem to remember seeing something -- and enjoying it.
Really? I'm not too sure?
It would have to be qwerky :)
Badcat
15th May 2006, 09:59
Didn't Jonathan Bentman host something on Sky a few years ago? I seem to remember seeing something -- and enjoying it.
yep - it was produced by Visionary TV - richard driver (ex radio with pictures). i think the FTA TV stations were not interested, but it was a good show. I think both Suzuki NZ and BMW NZ were sponsors.
K
snuffles
15th May 2006, 10:03
Talking of Bike shows, a mate of mine and me have formulated a format for a new bike show. It is currently with production company for serious rework and consideration.
qustion is how much support do you think we would get from manufacturers to produce a series?
And we will take any suggestions for format or guest appearances.
Colapop
15th May 2006, 10:04
Hell yeah, specially if you have old fullas on there that know what the hell they are on about :)
The Kiwibiker Show?
LOL Gottah have WINJA on the show, FHM has Mark Brandon Reed:laugh:
WINJA - You mean the show would be shot with a wide angle lens????
My wifes cousin is a producer for TVNZ and there's another one who's a film maker....
Squeak the Rat
15th May 2006, 10:05
this programme will appeal to a wide demographic. There's no reason why it cannot be based around a Top Gear type format with a presenter or two who aren't between 16 and 21. Big Dave would be a perfect producer (not volunteering anyone) and Sarge could do voice overs for it (He does them already).
Adventure riding, trials, quads, scooters, tourers, sports... there is just so much programme content available. Not to mention bike reviews - "GN250, They're everywhere".
Good point - defining the target audience would be the key. If it is bike enthusiasts that your after, then that means having the harleys in with the gixxers, in with the GN250's, in with the adventure bikes.
Sounds good to me, but would die-hard sports bike nuts or cruiser-only types be into it? Who cares - make it and I'll watch :)
Colapop
15th May 2006, 10:05
Thats really good. How come you didn't post this in the other thread....?
WINJA - You mean the show would be shot with a wide angle lens????
My wifes cousin is a producer for TVNZ and there's another one who's a film maker....
Oh oh You have a mission to put this idea to her :D
snuffles
15th May 2006, 10:07
scared of people stealing my thunder........
my mother used to keep me in a cupboard.......
oh no I've wet myself.....
any of the above reaseons will do
Colapop
15th May 2006, 10:12
If it helps - I think you're thunderful, Puddles!
Colapop
15th May 2006, 10:15
Yeah, I was thinking about that...
You remember "The Holidaymakers" band "sweet lovers" song? She was the lead singer, first cousin to King Kapisi (his sister is the fillum maker), first cousin to my missus... who doesn't sing in public.
James Deuce
15th May 2006, 10:16
qustion is how much support do you think we would get from manufacturers to produce a series?
None. Contact Ssangyong. They do most of the motorcycle sport name sponsorship in NZ.
Blue Wing Honda will laugh at you. And say mean things, so make sure you have your incontinence trousers on.
How about:
1. Road condition report - roadworks, fallen trees, wire rope strung across the road, etc, etc.
2. Economy comparisons between old and new bikes of similar roles and cubic capacity.
3. Legal issues - LTNZ, Police, and Legal experts in a panel discussing issues that affect motorcyclists - lanesplitting, filtering, parking, vandalism, theft, criminal negligence of other road users, ACC fees, graduated licensing limitatiosn (70 km/hr speed limit, CC, training, time lengths for each license step).
4. Investigate unsolved accidents like Stonechucker's.
5. Tour reports.
6. Bike reports (obvious that one)
7. A home mechanics segment.
8. Local race reports
9. International race reports
10. Finance advice for buying your first bike, trade in advice from Bike Shop Owners.
11. In depth analysis of different motorcycle shops servicing practices and methodoogies.
12. History reports, like a documentary on the Cust races.
blah, blah, blah.
jimbo600
15th May 2006, 10:21
Forbes and Davies may be supportive. Not sure about Suzuki NZ
Insanity_rules
15th May 2006, 10:31
Well KB TV maybe? I'd watch. Depends on how it was done I guess. The moral majority probably wouldn't watch a show about antisocial leather (and sometimes cordura) clad hoons like us anyway would they?
I often tell the 4 wheel tossers in my office my OLD 250 could make mince of their bump and thump toss pot machines and I prove it regularly.
I think they may be starting to catch on..........
Agree winja should be on the show, just to scare off the PC a$$holes.
R6_kid
15th May 2006, 10:34
I reckon it could be really awesome. If you go down the route of the "kids kings/knights" show that is done for NZ soccer.
Each time they have a player profile, practicing skills, event highlights and talk about boots/gear etc.
So for us we could a have a random biker each week, which would give a good cross section of NZ motorcyclists, have a skill to try each week (counter-steering, weaving, emergency breaking etc.), keep tabs on the club racing series, nationals, sprints, hill climbs, a bit of MX (not too much, they get heaps anyway), bike and gear reviews... the list goes on.
I know of a lot of people, especially from the boy-racer/wank wank/rich asian student/whatever you want to call it side of the fence that are actually really interested in bikes. It's amazing the amount of questions you get asked when you show up to a party on a bike.
Personally i'm all for it, im shit with a camera, but im not bad at editing/sound matching (hey i got Excellence in Level 3 for it!) so if it does go ahead i'd more than love to be a part of it, even if i do have to work with WT.
Well KB TV maybe? I'd watch. Depends on how it was done I guess. The moral majority probably wouldn't watch a show about antisocial leather (and sometimes cordura) clad hoons like us anyway would they?
I often tell the 4 wheel tossers in my office my OLD 250 could make mince of their bump and thump toss pot machines and I prove it regularly.
I think they may be starting to catch on..........
Agree winja should be on the show, just to scare off the PC a$$holes.
He should blow up bikes that we hate, like goldwings
R6_kid
15th May 2006, 10:35
and dont forget WT's skills as a tele salesman - "im 40 years old, and im in the best shape of my life"
and dont forget WT's skills as a tele salesman - "im 40 years old, and im in the best shape of my life"
:killingme
Pixie
15th May 2006, 10:41
There was a show on Triangle TV last year.I think it was called The Motorcycle Show ( who'd have thunk?)And was available on DVD.
There was a show on Triangle TV last year.I think it was called The Motorcycle Show ( who'd have thunk?)And was available on DVD.
I thought that was the gay channel?
MSTRS
15th May 2006, 10:52
Good idea - as long as there are not too many 'secrets' given away, you know? Big brother and the great unwashed are watching....
Good idea - as long as there are not too many 'secrets' given away, you know? Big brother and the great unwashed are watching....
That's the unspoken rule :)
White trash
15th May 2006, 11:25
and dont forget WT's skills as a tele salesman - "im 40 years old, and im in the best shape of my life"
"41"
10 whatsits
dawnrazor
15th May 2006, 11:30
A mate of mine made a pilot motorbike show to show TVNZ and TV3 and PRIME, although PRIME and TV3 where the most interested, it was a case of not at this time. TVNZ couldn't be arsed.
Wait until petrol prices hit $2/L and more people buy bikes, might see a little more bike orientated tv (probably all be focused on the evils of bikes though!)
How about starting it out as a Website with a TV name, look and feel? Build it up to a point that you've got sponsors, advertising etc, etc, then you will find it easier to get funding to move it to TV or just keep it on the net and make money.
Racey Rider
15th May 2006, 12:42
Just like 'Derek the Chief' shows how to cook fish on 'Gone Fishing', there could be a 5 minute 'Maintenance' bit on each show. Some mechanic showing how things work. (This is a vacuum shutoff fuel valve. this is how it works.... If your motor won't start, this is one thing to check .... etc. etc.)
Smorg
15th May 2006, 12:48
shut up....
Big Dave
15th May 2006, 12:49
Didn't Jonathan Bentman host something on Sky a few years ago? I seem to remember seeing something -- and enjoying it.
Thank you!
Kiwi Rider 'Born to Ride' in 2003.
I was on it too - how soon they forget.....
It's in that pile of derelict vhs tapes over there.
SARGE
15th May 2006, 12:51
I think NZ on Air needs to fund a motorcycle show.
It could promote the motorcycle "seen" in a different light, I guess?
Sorta like that performance car show on sundays.
You could have ole WT hosting the show with regular guess spots of mates talking about bikes.. Heh
I reckon it would be a bloody good show
I've tried to get one produced by Greenstone productions for the past year .. apparently, the NZ motorcycle community is too small to have a show for that audience..
plenty of Boi Racer dickheads to watch that shit and who thought up Camp Jim and the Biggest Loser???
Hitcher
15th May 2006, 12:56
The content could be prepared with both a biker and non-biker audience in mind. Don't forget that lots of non-bikers watch and enjoy MotoGP and SBK. Promoting motorcycling is about selling the sizzle, not (just) the sausage.
For example: "being safe on the roads" could help make cagers more aware of bikers, as well as increasing biker awareness; "roads fondly travelled" is as much about the experience as the mode of travel; bike reviews help sell bikes and get more people on and enjoying them; yada yada yada.
Insanity_rules
15th May 2006, 13:32
He should blow up bikes that we hate, like goldwings
It could have a segment, blow up a pig! We should start with a goldwing and go from there. Or we could see how long it would take to burn into nothing. And we could do a segment called smoke a boy racer where we cruise around looking for a boy car and video it getting beaten.
Am I being facetious, thats for me to know and you to decide!
Insanity_rules
15th May 2006, 13:40
I've tried to get one produced by Greenstone productions for the past year .. apparently, the NZ motorcycle community is too small to have a show for that audience..
And there's a large audience to watch performance car tv?????? Sorry being facetious again.
Jeez TV exec's must live in a constant state of anal cranium insertion. Sarge you must have to shout loud for them to hear your ideas with their heads that far up their asses.
SlowHand
15th May 2006, 13:40
I vote for a 'pimp my biker' sigment, where you have singles that whore themselves on national tv. and then at the end of the series, the people that 'hook-up' go into an island or summin for reality tv 'jizzle'.
whos gonna talk all bleck tho?
could always start off with a dvd, and gauge interest from there. - a best of motocycling type. stunts, road riding, racing, hoo-ha'ing
oldguy
15th May 2006, 22:27
TV show based around motorcycles would have to be like a Motorcycle magazine say each week you would have a bike test, there are a lot of bikes so you could have 2 test a week say a road bike and MX or trail, product reviews, cover local events, road/track/dirt,Helpful tips on riding etc. would be a great idea. put my name forward as a tester.:laugh:
oldrider
18th May 2006, 21:18
The content could be prepared with both a biker and non-biker audience in mind. Don't forget that lots of non-bikers watch and enjoy MotoGP and SBK. Promoting motorcycling is about selling the sizzle, not (just) the sausage.
For example: "being safe on the roads" could help make cagers more aware of bikers, as well as increasing biker awareness; "roads fondly travelled" is as much about the experience as the mode of travel; bike reviews help sell bikes and get more people on and enjoying them; yada yada yada.
The Burt Monro movie did a lot to make motorcycling "respectable" in NZ and elsewhere, we should be able to pick that up and carry on the interest in bikes.
I have not heard of one person who didn't take old Bert into their hearts with pride after watching that movie.
So many people wanted to identify with him, I found it quite amazing, you could try to pick up from where Donaldson (There's an idea, Donaldson) left off.
Pixie
19th May 2006, 02:54
The TV heads would insist the show had a "professional presenter" such as Phil Dark - Mr "This jet engine has 23,000 foot/pounds of thrust"
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