Tourist Trophy

[WRT]

Xtra's review of Tourist Trophy, the real riding simulator for Playstation 2:

http://games.xtra.co.nz/ps2/title/touristtrophy/reviews.php?id=3300

[sil3nt]

after reading a review and watching a video here: http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/touristtrophy/review.html

I would have to say its worse than gran turismo. I think the sounds are awful and only 3 bikes on track at a time?

[bugjuice]

no NZ release date?
might get my knee down on this game..

[Back Fire]

grrrr.... when are they going to release the bloody game....

[bobsmith]

Looks like 2nd of June. Look here: http://www.gpstore.co.nz/Games/1515032.html

[Mr. Peanut]

:laugh: Looks good to me :laugh:

Now you guys can pretend to have a bike like mine in the comfort of your own home :bleh:

[MidnightMike]

after reading a review and watching a video here: http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/touristtrophy/review.html

I would have to say its worse than gran turismo. I think the sounds are awful and only 3 bikes on track at a time?

Its a bloody ps2 what do you expect? <_<


:laugh: Looks good to me :laugh:

Now you guys can pretend to have a bike like mine in the comfort of your own home :bleh:

Do you really think the graphics are going to be that good?
If so your kidding yourself, because, once again, its a ps2 :eyepoke:
What they do is bring out pictures like that which make the graphics look better than they are so you buy it and then get disappointed. :stupid:

But I could be wrong.

[sil3nt]

As much as i hate consoles GT4 did look pretty good and this is built by the same people on what would have to be the same engine. Plus there is in game footage on the link i posted and it looks ok.

[GR81]

was playing my "backed up" copy of Tourist Trophy last night for the first time.
its pretty hardout... good fun tho :)

[bobsmith]

is your "backed up" copy in english?

[Sniper]

Release date is 3rd or 4th June now (Was July in a previous thread of mine). Get into your local games store and pop down a deposit on it. I have....

[GR81]

is your "backed up" copy in english?
yup, sure is.
apart from not having many other bikes on the track at the same time, its a great game.
thoroughly recommend it! :2thumbsup:

[L.L. Cool M]

Is the AI of the opponent riders any good? In other words if you are in front of them will they brake to avoid you, or just drive straight into you as if you weren't there (a la Moto GP 3 on Xbox) hence causing a ridiculous amount of crashes?

[GR81]

Is the AI of the opponent riders any good? In other words if you are in front of them will they brake to avoid you, or just drive straight into you as if you weren't there (a la Moto GP 3 on Xbox) hence causing a ridiculous amount of crashes?
yea, seems to be pretty good... i just enjoy wheel standing past them on my MV Agusta 1000 ;)
this game beats the pants off motoGP4 too!!! :nya:

if anyone on the shore wants to have a play with it before they buy it, you're more than welcome to PM me and cruise over for a beer and a race :)
im in hillcrest/glenfield

[bobsmith]

if anyone on the shore wants to have a play with it before they buy it, you're more than welcome to PM me and cruise over for a beer and a race :)
im in hillcrest/glenfield

Darn I used to live in Glenfield, but than, I've lived just about everywhere in the shore......

Working on getting my own "backup" copy at the moment... hopefully it's in english......

[UrbanMyth]

it looks like a awesoem game all my friends in the states say its fucking rad!
http://us.playstation.com/Content/OGS/SCUS-97502/Site/

check out all the bikes theres even a nc30 :D

[Sniper]

You c$#%ts. Stop posting about it till you get it

[GR81]

You c$#%ts. Stop posting about it till you get it
i do have it tho! ;)
peow peow!

[SimJen]

Okay I've been playing my ntsc copy on my modded ps2. It plays fine on my Pal Lcd tv, as my modchip auto forces it to play Pal.

I've been an avid sim gamer for 20 odd years and have played just about every sim out there......most aren't even worthy of being called sims.

Its an awesome game, and easily the best ever Motorcycle game on a console.

Takes a little while to get used to the physics, if you pitch it in too quick you can lose it big time. Also when getting on the power too suddenly the back end can light up out of corners.

You can jump straight in and drive just about any bike from scooters, 250's, 400's right up to 1200cc Buells and gixxer thous etc in Arcade mode. Race 1 on 1 against the computer or Battle against a friend in 2 player. Or race with up to 3 other bikes.

Or you can do Tourist Trophy mode where you must work your way through and earn new bikes/gear along the way in various ways:

Challenge mode - allows you to race a similar bike around a track and win it if you beat the opposition. You can pick the challenges yourself, so you get the bike you want.

Licence mode- you must sit and pass various challenges to progress.

The more you race it the better and more intuitive it becomes, there are 3 modes for controlling the bikes. Some of the higher modes allow seperate front/rear braking for really backing the bikes into turns.

Also your riding style can be altered to suit different bikes or tracks. A motard style is also available so you can try some foot out action on a Sportbike.....looks ridiculous :)

A cool feature is the ability to save pics from replays/races etc out to a standard USB drive.
See below for some pics I did the other night riding some different bikes.

If you like bikes this game is definately for you. The gameplay is awesome, it takes a while to become truly good (just like real bikes), and the graphics are top notch for ps2.

[Mr. Peanut]

When GT4 came out I dreamt of them doing a motorcycle simulator. This is awesome, I can take my NSR to the limit and not worry about dropping it :first:

Could be a good training tool, apparently Sonys GT4 tester did quite well when he hit the racetrack for the first time. :rockon:

[ZeroIndex]

Okay I've been playing my ntsc copy on my modded ps2. It plays fine on my Pal Lcd tv, as my modchip auto forces it to play Pal.

I've been an avid sim gamer for 20 odd years and have played just about every sim out there......most aren't even worthy of being called sims.

Its an awesome game, and easily the best ever Motorcycle game on a console.

Takes a little while to get used to the physics, if you pitch it in too quick you can lose it big time. Also when getting on the power too suddenly the back end can light up out of corners.

You can jump straight in and drive just about any bike from scooters, 250's, 400's right up to 1200cc Buells and gixxer thous etc in Arcade mode. Race 1 on 1 against the computer or Battle against a friend in 2 player. Or race with up to 3 other bikes.

Or you can do Tourist Trophy mode where you must work your way through and earn new bikes/gear along the way in various ways:

Challenge mode - allows you to race a similar bike around a track and win it if you beat the opposition. You can pick the challenges yourself, so you get the bike you want.

Licence mode- you must sit and pass various challenges to progress.

The more you race it the better and more intuitive it becomes, there are 3 modes for controlling the bikes. Some of the higher modes allow seperate front/rear braking for really backing the bikes into turns.

Also your riding style can be altered to suit different bikes or tracks. A motard style is also available so you can try some foot out action on a Sportbike.....looks ridiculous :)

A cool feature is the ability to save pics from replays/races etc out to a standard USB drive.
See below for some pics I did the other night riding some different bikes.

If you like bikes this game is definately for you. The gameplay is awesome, it takes a while to become truly good (just like real bikes), and the graphics are top notch for ps2.
wow.. that looks pretty good.. they should bring it out for PC..

[GR81]

ive done the 250cc/750cc and 1000cc class races at the beginning, now its becoming VERY hard :(
challenging for bikes to do some of the other races is very hard now.

struggling :(

[Bulldog]

Guys, I've been an avid gamer for years, sim racing especially. I've raced online for several teams including kiwiracing.co.nz.

All I can say is that if you're a biker and have a PS2....book your copy now from gpstore.co.nz for release June 2nd!

I'm hoping that when the PS3 will bring out more of this game and hopefully on the success of this title will spawn one where they bring out updates with the latest bikes / helmets online ALA Project Gotham racing 3 with xbox360 live.

[GR81]

Guys, I've been an avid gamer for years, sim racing especially. I've raced online for several teams including kiwiracing.co.nz.
"Server not found"
cant be very good then lol

[Drunken Monkey]

Ordered yesterday, out today...w00t! w00t!

http://www.gpstore.co.nz/Games/1515032.html

[Sniper]

Ordered yesterday, out today...w00t! w00t!

http://www.gpstore.co.nz/Games/1515032.html

I go pick mine up today as well.

[GR81]

i gots me a 636, 600RR, GSXR600 and 750 last night... battling my way to a Duc999 RM atm... tough task! :(

must admit the licences are pretty easy! much easier than GT4

[JWALKER]

I go pick mine up today as well.

Hhmm. . . i think i might have to go visit the sniper. . you do have trouble staying on your bike in motorgp though, you sure you want to get this game?, lol . . haha:yes:

[Sniper]

I only have trouble staying on the bike when you decide that riding into me at 250kph is great..... Plus your wheelies scare the bejesus out of me.... LOL

[IronicCapers]

I thought the picture in the review was a real bike when it was minimised that is sum seriously good graphics. Wunda if they have the Licences and you have to do the basic handling course first lol

[JWALKER]

I only have trouble staying on the bike when you decide that riding into me at 250kph is great..... Plus your wheelies scare the bejesus out of me.... LOL

HAHA:ride: , you do look funny flying off the bike at that speed.
imagine what my wheelies outside of the game are going to be like . . wobbly wheelies . . fun

[Sniper]

Your bike does wheelies fine....... :shifty: It just needs me on it.....

[GR81]

in the famous words of Chuck Yeager... 'it's the man, not the machine' ;)

[Sniper]

in the famous words of Chuck Yeager... 'it's the man, not the machine' ;)

The thing is, his bike sits in my garage with the key in it and Im dying to steal it, but too scared incase something happens.... you know the feeling.

[ZeroIndex]

in the famous words of Chuck Yeager... 'it's the man, not the machine' ;)
he's obviously never ridden my bike..

[GR81]

its not stealing if its in your garage and the key is in the ignition.
its more of an invitation than anything :P

[JWALKER]

LOL. sniper can ride my bike while its sitting in his garage if he wants. he is probably safer on it than me, lol.

[Sniper]

Cheers mate, but you know me..... Im too sensible to be on a bike

[Mr. Peanut]

Hi Chris,

Good news... your order has been shipped and is now on its way to you! Here are
the details:


The following products were shipped:

Tourist Trophy - Games - PlayStation 2 - New


You can track your order online a the following web site:
http://www.courierpost.co.nz/Cultures/en-NZ/OnlineTools/TrackYourPackages/
(Please note: Your parcel should be trackable from 5pm tonight).

Please allow 1-2 business days for delivery of this order. In the rare event
that your package does not arrive in the expected timeframe, you can call
Courier Post on 0800 COURIER (0800 2687437) and request a track-and-trace. You
will need your tracking number to speed things up:

Thank you for shopping at GPstore and we hope we can be of service to you in the
near future!

Kind Regards,

Rose
Customer Service
GPstore

:first:

[Drunken Monkey]

Yeeeaaaahhhhh! It's sooooo cool, and all I've done so far is watch the intro!!!!! :scooter:

[gav]

Hi Chris,

Good news... your order has been shipped and is now on its way to you! Here are
the details:


The following products were shipped:

Tourist Trophy - Games - PlayStation 2 - New


You can track your order online a the following web site:
http://www.courierpost.co.nz/Cultures/en-NZ/OnlineTools/TrackYourPackages/
(Please note: Your parcel should be trackable from 5pm tonight).

Please allow 1-2 business days for delivery of this order. In the rare event
that your package does not arrive in the expected timeframe, you can call
Courier Post on 0800 COURIER (0800 2687437) and request a track-and-trace. You
will need your tracking number to speed things up: 0800 NEWGAME4ME

Thank you for shopping at GPstore and we hope we can be of service to you in the
near future!

Kind Regards,

Rose
Customer Service
GPstore

:first:

Hey, thanks for that, I've used your tracking number and advised of change of address!!!! Looks like my new game will be a freebee, cheers, bro! :rockon:

[Mr. Peanut]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee RG500 :first: :first: all these cool bikes, my god im in heaven :gob: :gob:

[Drunken Monkey]

Don't let the gear Nazis play though - I see you can choose jeans as one of your gear options. Riding the 'busa around the Nurburgring in jeans...cool.

Does anyone else fall off lots? The crashes are spectacular, but over too quickly!

[Sparky Bills]

We got this game the other day.
So far so good!
Im not one to sit and play all day, but have enjoyed it so far.

[Mr. Peanut]

Hmmm. the menu system seems a bit slap dash, but those onboard cams are insane :gob:

The MT-01 sounds like a weedeater, WTF.

The NSR250 Owns everything, which is good and they descraibe the MC21 as being motorcycling prefection, which is also true :nya:

License test only improves your skill if you aim for gold though.

No kawasaki H1/H2 which is HORSESHIT. The RG500 feels like a pussycat and wont wheelie.

Bikes look awesome, but you dont pay for them, you take a challenge and earn it. Which seems far less gratifying. GT4 system would have been more fun.

It's almost as if this game was a bit rushed to the market, but its still realistic enough and it IS the best motorcycling game yet (I have motoGP4).

I'm gonna go play some more and see if it Improves :yes:

[Sniper]

Does anyone else fall off lots? The crashes are spectacular, but over too quickly!

I know what you mean, lots of fun though locking up the back and sliding into the nearest fence. I hate Laguna Seca corkscrew though, always falling off there. BASTARDS!

Though scooters are farking funny to ride, its hard to do challenges when you are pissing yourself so much.

[Toast]

Wow, it looks awesome, and if the GT series guys made it, it should have a nice feel to the handling.

No 929 though...next best thing would be the 954...oh well :p

It's got the NR750...hope it sounds as awesome in the game as it's reputed to in real life. Would love to win that bike if I had the game...or in real life would be even better.

[Buster]

Im really enjoying this game!!! Its so much fun scraping the shit out of the pegs going round corners, sparks flying! I played all the gran turismo games to death so some more tracks would have been nice. :rockon:

[Buster]

No 929 though...next best thing would be the 954...oh well :p


Theres an '02 954 in there bud, its one of the prizes. I wont tell ya which one though :nya:

[Mr. Peanut]

I'm as happy as this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtdYsd_QRmc

[fozz rock]

i killed my ps2
need new one before i can buy game, oh i miss her soooo much

[Toast]

Theres an '02 954 in there bud, its one of the prizes. I wont tell ya which one though :nya:

Yep, saw that the 954 was in the game, bit gutted that my 929's not in there though. They're pretty similar in the major areas anyway, so the 954 will do me.

Feck, doubt that I'll ever even get around to playing this game anyway...but if there ever was a reason for me to get a PS2, this is it.

[Toast]

I'm as happy as this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtdYsd_QRmc

haha, my flat mate showed me that the other day...that dude's the man :niceone:

[SlowHand]

You spliff smoking hippies, as far as I can tell, the game looks like its been developed by bunch of students that got told they can work on GT5 if they make this work.

The rider flops around like a big floppy donkey dick on the bike, and brakes feel crappy as fark.

Basically, it feels like they took GT4 graphics, and GT1 game physics. But with a bike shape in the place of a cage - but I still cant do powerslides..

Sheet negro, I need a fuckin foot massage.

[Mr. Peanut]

I have my reservations too, but I can powerslide :)

The sounds are a bit shite, nowhere near as much music as GT4, some bikes cant wheelie regardless of power, i.e. RG500??? MT-01 sounds like a weedeater... I dont like the extensive use of GT4 material either.

The bike modeling looks awesome though. I don't like the menu system.

Still a good antidote for bike withdrawal symptoms

[GR81]

still a good game and great step towards the future :)

[SimJen]

You spliff smoking hippies, as far as I can tell, the game looks like its been developed by bunch of students that got told they can work on GT5 if they make this work.

The rider flops around like a big floppy donkey dick on the bike, and brakes feel crappy as fark.

Basically, it feels like they took GT4 graphics, and GT1 game physics. But with a bike shape in the place of a cage - but I still cant do powerslides..

Sheet negro, I need a fuckin foot massage.

The brakes feel fine, physics can be a little strange at times but overall are the best of any bike sim i've ever played, and I've played them all :)

If you can't do powerslides then somethings wrong....they spin up easily out of corners.
Also if you get it right you can back the bikes in beautifully.
Yes its basically GT4 to look at, but the physics are far more advanced as can be seen by the lack of bikes you can have on the track at once.....not enough power in the PS2 to handle the massive physics calcs of more than 3-4 bikes.

The next version of GT4/TT etc is called GTHD and will include both cars and bikes in a 1080i(hires) version for the PS3.

[Sniper]

Game feels great to me, better control and gameplay than GT3. Powerslides are easy, so are highsides, although you dont fly off the bike instead you fall gracefully and the bike carries on. Must admit that Im still getting used to (and cringe) the fact your rider can collect stationary objects with his head and that causes big accidents.

Just got the MV F4 last night....


The next version of GT4/TT etc is called GTHD and will include both cars and bikes in a 1080i(hires) version for the PS3.
Now thats going to be cool

[Toast]

The next version of GT4/TT etc is called GTHD and will include both cars and bikes in a 1080i(hires) version for the PS3.

OMFG that sounds glorious!!

Especially if they can race together!

We'll have to get used to being given the learn by the F1 and super GT cars though...still, there will be some mean battles between the street machinery.

[SimJen]

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=touristtrophy&message.id=4004

for some further info on GTHD :)

[Mr. Peanut]

This game gets better when you play by its rules, suddenly it'll seem a whole lot more realistic :yes:

You just need to practice. (rg500 is a devil, spins the tyres up like a mofo)

Shame about the wheelies and burnout though. Would be really nice to have a clutch up button like the clicky thing you do with the joystick :first:

[Mr. Peanut]

Vision/HD Gran Turismo is said to have real time damage as well :first: :gob:

[GR81]

Vision/HD Gran Turismo is said to have real time damage as well :first: :gob:
damage? id be screwed! :(

[Sniper]

damage? id be screwed! :(

LOL, Ditto

[bobsmith]

Ok, I've been playing the game for a little while, and I'm confused. I noticed that there are quite a few off road bikes, and there is a rider position mode for motard. - but is there any motard/off-road racing in this game? (TT) I haven't been able to find any... if not, why the hell would they put a motard riding position????

[Mr. Peanut]

:killingme For power-sliding the Hayabusa/RG500/GSXR1000 :devil2:

[Sniper]

And to look fucken funny and stupid doing it at 200+kph

[Sniper]

Has anyone else found out that if you win a bike if you can get any other upgrades apart from exhausts? Also, I have managed to win the MV Auguta F4 twice, but each time in a different colour, if you get all gold licenses do you get another bike or just gear?

[GR81]

Has anyone else found out that if you win a bike if you can get any other upgrades apart from exhausts? Also, I have managed to win the MV Auguta F4 twice, but each time in a different colour, if you get all gold licenses do you get another bike or just gear?
yea, weird about the MV... dunno whats up there!
as for mods... you can change the tyres from street to performance but nothing else. maybe that comes further down the track?
wtf is with all the different gears??? it doesnt make you ride any better lol

[SimJen]

No other mods can be done. Basically susp, gearing, exhaust, tires thats it. A bit like real life for most people I reckon....not everyone will get into doing full on engine mods.
Personally too many mods make it a bit "Fast & the Furious" ie: gay gay gay.

[Sniper]

yea, weird about the MV... dunno whats up there!
as for mods... you can change the tyres from street to performance but nothing else. maybe that comes further down the track?
wtf is with all the different gears??? it doesnt make you ride any better lol

Its so you and your bike can look sexy.

I have had a play with the suspension settings on a couple of the bikes with varied results. DONT harden up the suspension on deep forest raceway, thats bad......

[GR81]

Personally too many mods make it a bit "Fast & the Furious" ie: gay gay gay.
but thats the best movie ever! i wanna NAWS my VMAX and outrun the busa's in the game! :blip:

[Sniper]

No other mods can be done. Basically susp, gearing, exhaust, tires thats it. A bit like real life for most people I reckon....not everyone will get into doing full on engine mods.
Personally too many mods make it a bit "Fast & the Furious" ie: gay gay gay.

I was thinking more along the lines of suspension and choices of exhausts. Not just adding a sports exhaust, but choosing a different type of exhaust.

[Mr. Peanut]

If you look at the bike before and after the exhaust actually changes.. Cool :yes:

[SimJen]

Yeah on the Gixxer Thou K5 its now got a yummy stubby twin outlet yoshi in carbon :)
I don't really care for the modding too much, it would be fun I spose. But I prefer to race.

[Sniper]

Sounds change a bit too.

[Mr. Peanut]

Hahahhaha WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I just hooked it up to my massive stereo

MT-01 sounds better now... :devil2:

[Motoracer]

How does the physics compair to Superbikes TT?

Anyone in Auckland got one? If yes, can I please come and have a go? If I like it, I'll rush out and buy one.

I held a copy in my hand today at the store but thought I better play it safe as they don't do refunds.

Cheers.

[sil3nt]

How does the physics compair to Superbikes TT?

Anyone in Auckland got one? If yes, can I please come and have a go? If I like it, I'll rush out and buy one.

I held a copy in my hand today at the store but thought I better play it safe as they don't do refunds.

Cheers.not quite the same as playing it but you might get a fair idea from
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7443354410698167413&q=tourist+trophy

[Toast]

not quite the same as playing it but you might get a fair idea from
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7443354410698167413&q=tourist+trophy

Looks cool. Good sense of speed. 100mph looks like 100mph.

Handling seems to have weight and not be overly arcade like either.

EDIT: the dude does seem a bit hard on the brakes at big lean angles though...

[Mr. Peanut]

It's a good game, get it. You need to be prepared for a big learning curve if you havent played GT4 and MotoGp...

[ZeroIndex]

It's a good game, get it. You need to be prepared for a big learning curve if you havent played GT4 and MotoGp...
they should bring it out on PC it looks good..

[Drunken Monkey]

How does the physics compair to Superbikes TT?

Anyone in Auckland got one? If yes, can I please come and have a go? If I like it, I'll rush out and buy one.

I held a copy in my hand today at the store but thought I better play it safe as they don't do refunds.

Cheers.

Yo man, any time. You got my number? PM me.

[erik]

I hired it out today and borrowed the neighbour's PS2.

The physics disappoint me.

I think I'm not going to be satisfied until they make a motorcycle game where the motorcycles handle like bikes. Tourist Trophy seems pretty much the same as MotoGP2 in the basic way the bikes respond and move - flopping around about the tyre contact patch and requiring you to push the joystick over and hold it depending on how far you want the bike to lean. It's closer to driving a car than riding a bike.

Other complaints are I couldn't figure out how to make the bikes wheelie, do burnouts or do stoppies... :o

[Mr. Peanut]

Ride a sports bike like a cbr 600/1000 and you ll do wehllies stoppies powerslides etc no prob
Burnouts are not possible but you can drag the front wheel for smoke :)

Noobs rubbish the physics but they're pretty spot on once you play properly.

[ZeroIndex]

on the video replay thingy (the google one), bottom left, you've got brake on the left, accelerator on the right, what's the middle thingy?

[onearmedbandit]

It would seem wheelies and stoppies are possible. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8537425269561037117&q=tourist+trophy)

[erik]

Ride a sports bike like a cbr 600/1000 and you ll do wehllies stoppies powerslides etc no prob
Burnouts are not possible but you can drag the front wheel for smoke :)

Noobs rubbish the physics but they're pretty spot on once you play properly.
I tried a cbr600rr in one of the licence tests and a gsxr1000 on a track in arcade mode. Neither of them wheelied or stoppied. Obviously I'm doing something wrong game wise, but with either bike, jamming on the front brake would send you over the handlebars in real life. Similarly, wacking the throttle open on the gsxr1000 in 1st should have lifted the front wheel a bit at least.

The cornering physics might work well for a game once you learn to play it, but they're far from an accurate simulation of how a real bike handles.

On a real bike you apply pressure to the bars to turn them left, the front wheel starts to track left and the bike leans to the right, and you adjust the pressure on the bars so that the bike balances in the turn - this balancing only requires a small amount of pressure on the bars. Towards the end of the turn, you apply pressure to turn the bars right, the front wheel tracks more to the right and the bike stands up and you release the pressure on the bars.

If it were an accurate simulation, the joystick would have to take the place of the bars and the bike would have to respond similarly.

If the handlebars on a real bike made it respond like the bikes in Tourist Trophy and MotoGP2, then to turn right, you would turn the bars to the right and hold them at a fixed position applying a constant pressure. This would make the bike turn right and at the same time lean over to the right. Throughout the turn you would have to maintain the pressure on the bars to keep turning and leaning. If you wanted to lean further and turn sharper, you'd turn the bars further right and hold them there with even more force. At the end of the turn, you could release the bars and the bike would pop upright and go in a straight line.

The above description is not how real bikes respond, it's far more like a car responds (minus the leaning) than a bike.

[ZeroIndex]

I tried a cbr600rr in one of the licence tests and a gsxr1000 on a track in arcade mode. Neither of them wheelied or stoppied. Obviously I'm doing something wrong game wise, but with either bike, jamming on the front brake would send you over the handlebars in real life. Similarly, wacking the throttle open on the gsxr1000 in 1st should have lifted the front wheel a bit at least.

The cornering physics might work well for a game once you learn to play it, but they're far from an accurate simulation of how a real bike handles.

On a real bike you apply pressure to the bars to turn them left, the front wheel starts to track left and the bike leans to the right, and you adjust the pressure on the bars so that the bike balances in the turn - this balancing only requires a small amount of pressure on the bars. Towards the end of the turn, you apply pressure to turn the bars right, the front wheel tracks more to the right and the bike stands up and you release the pressure on the bars.

If it were an accurate simulation, the joystick would have to take the place of the bars and the bike would have to respond similarly.

If the handlebars on a real bike made it respond like the bikes in Tourist Trophy and MotoGP2, then to turn right, you would turn the bars to the right and hold them at a fixed position applying a constant pressure. This would make the bike turn right and at the same time lean over to the right. Throughout the turn you would have to maintain the pressure on the bars to keep turning and leaning. If you wanted to lean further and turn sharper, you'd turn the bars further right and hold them there with even more force. At the end of the turn, you could release the bars and the bike would pop upright and go in a straight line.

The above description is not how real bikes respond, it's far more like a car responds (minus the leaning) than a bike.
you haven't noticed the main problem? the game is built by the same people that made GT4.. meaning a whole bunch of cagers are gonna play this, and get pissed off if they can't "hold left to go left", they don't want realism.. stupid stupid cagers

[bobsmith]

I held a copy in my hand today at the store but thought I better play it safe as they don't do refunds.

Cheers.

I believe EB (electronic botique) has a 14 day return period.

I just noticed yesterday that the rider's right hand moves with throttle, - cool.

[Drunken Monkey]

I tried a cbr600rr in one of the licence tests and a gsxr1000 on a track in arcade mode. Neither of them wheelied or stoppied. Obviously I'm doing something wrong game wise, ....

Indeed, it's patently obvious. Shift your weight forwards to stoppie, shift it back. Just like in real life. Duh.

If you still can't get the front end up, you never will. Trade that playstation in for something more suitable for your skillset, like snakes and ladders.

[Drunken Monkey]

you haven't noticed the main problem? the game is built by the same people that made GT4.. meaning a whole bunch of cagers are gonna play this, and get pissed off if they can't "hold left to go left", they don't want realism.. stupid stupid cagers

You're both assuming right stick means turn handlebars right. Right stick simply means turn the bike right. If you choose Lean In or Motard as your riding style, you will see right stick will also shift the riders bum off the seat and (in motard) stick the leg out...Or is that not good enough for you? Do you need a 'move my bum' button and a 'stick my leg out' stick as well?

Pfffft. Turkeys.

[SimJen]

Its an easy game to pick up, it has the best physics so far in a motorcycle game. They will never be perfect though, how can they market a game with absolutely perfect physics but a real bitch to control. Most of the Playstation generation don't know how to ride bikes so would have no idea how to counter steer to get the bike on its side???? Its made accessible for a reason, but its still a great game and easily the best on the market.

Did you have it set to pro in the game settings ERIK? if you didn't then thats why it wouldnt wheelie. You use the left stick for leaning left/right and moving bodyweight fore and aft. Just pull back on the left stick and forward (accelerate) on the right stick for a wheelie....most bikes in the game will wheelie fine, some require a stoppie first then pull back. Some are just plain underpowered (as in real life).
As Mr Peanut said, most newbies are quick to dis the physics as they take a bit of getting used to........this ain't no ridge racer. Learn the controls, ride a while to get used to them, then your opinion will change.

[Sniper]

Jesus Erik, talk about hen picking. The game is a damn sight better than GP3 (Havent played GP4) You can wheelie just about any of the bikes plus stoppie any of them. You cannot wheelie in the license tests.

Its a damn good game and for the first of its type (not including GP's) they did a farking good job of it

[erik]

After some more testing I've found out that having the Failure Conditions turned on seems to stop you from being able to shift your weight forwards and backwards.
With failure conditions off, it's easy to wheelie and stoppie. It doesn't seem to matter if you have manual or automatic transmission or pro or standard control setup.

I wouldn't have persevered and found that out if SimJen hadn't specifically said the left stick should make you lean forward and back, so cheers.


I don't think that a game with physics that I'm talking about would be more difficult to play. I think if you made the left joystick control the pressure on the bars rather than the bar/steering position you wouldn't need to push the joystick in the opposite direction to where you want to go. Controlling it would be different, but I think people would get used to it.

[SimJen]

Cool Erik, I've never altered that setting, mine has always been off.
Possibly your idea could work, but remember the majority of people who would buy the game are probably kids, and they wouldn't know the difference.....either way :)
Having said that, this is the first bike game I've seen that has had such a big hit on all the motorcycle forums I frequent. Must be a good thing.....
The Polyphony boss has always liked bikes, but thought a game like this wouldn't sell. Obviously after the success of the GT series he thought he could take the risk. I think its paid off, but only sales will dictate wether we get updated versions etc. I can't wait for TT2/3/4.....

[dveus]

The failure condtions thing is a pain. I like racing with the stricter rules but not being able to do wheelies kinda ruins it.

Has anyone managed to get all gold's in any of the license tests? I'm stuck on a couple and want to know if you unlock bikes or just more riding gear by getting all golds.

[Sniper]

Yes, you unlock more helmets and other gear. I only have all gold on my Junior test and got more gear when I bettered from silver to gold

[ZeroIndex]

You're both assuming right stick means turn handlebars right. Right stick simply means turn the bike right. If you choose Lean In or Motard as your riding style, you will see right stick will also shift the riders bum off the seat and (in motard) stick the leg out...Or is that not good enough for you? Do you need a 'move my bum' button and a 'stick my leg out' stick as well?

Pfffft. Turkeys.
wow.. ok.. so it's better than i thought.. dammit.. tell them to bring it out on PC..

[Sniper]

wow.. ok.. so it's better than i thought.. dammit.. tell them to bring it out on PC..

Unfotunatly they wont. Same reason they didnt bring GT series on any other platform......... Secret under the table payeouts from Sony..... :gob:

[gav]

I bought TT tonight. I've already got pretty much every road racing game on PS2. You guys played Riding Spirits 2?
First up, its too similiar to GT4 (which I was kinda disappointed with). Bear in mind that so far I've played for about 20 minutes in Arcade mode. Only 4 in a race? That sucks, rolling starts? ditto, whats with the ghost image when restarting after a crash? ditto. I set the option to Pro rider and to "lean off" option and wheelies seemed pretty easy, however you cant seem to lean the bike over far enough or climb off the bike enough.
Personally at this stage it seems a bit over rated, the graphics are OK, but I think I prefer MotoGP4 for being able to drift, slide, stoppie and race a decent size field. TT Superbikes also offers a better racing feel to it, I think Riding Spirits 2 offers more opportunity to "tune and modify" the bikes.
Maybe it will improve with further play, but I think I might be expecting too much from the game.

[Mr. Peanut]

Go through the licence tests and you skill will go up. Get used to using the lean in button. Youll enjoy this game when you get better at it.

Im enjoying it much more now. I know what your talking about, but it really does get better.

[Marmoot]

if you like SH22, you simply need to do Nurburgring North Loop on your favourite bike. I just did with the blue/white busa.......the replay is amusing to watch, especially the tankslap at 302kph which threw me off. They should have added the options for 'fatality' there.....sort of giving you more responsibility not to fall off too hard.

Anyways......how do I powerslide (if possible at all)?

P.S.
Damn polyphony makes a bike game without ZX7, RC45 and RC51.....I mean, what the he..?

[ZeroIndex]

if you like SH22, you simply need to do Nurburgring North Loop on your favourite bike. I just did with the blue/white busa.......the replay is amusing to watch, especially the tankslap at 302kph which threw me off. They should have added the options for 'fatality' there.....sort of giving you more responsibility not to fall off too hard.

Anyways......how do I powerslide (if possible at all)?

P.S.
Damn polyphony makes a bike game without ZX7, RC45 and RC51.....I mean, what the he..?
i would guess it would be the same on most games.. lock up the back, then accelerate while holding the front brake (after letting go of the rear)

[Mr. Peanut]

As you lean into the corner, shift the weight forward while still turning (press the crouch button as well if you wanna get real wide :D)and give it some gas. The busa lights em up real well...

If you wanna get real tricky, do a stoppie and land on a slight angle, then give it some gas:devil2:

Turning the brake control to pro (non linked) also helps and makes the game a shit load more rewarding. Takes a bit of getting used to though.,

[Marmoot]

ah....that explains. I'm not on pro yet.

A tips for the players, instead of using the buttons, use the right analog stick for gas + brake. Damn more realistic and cuts your lap times if you use it well.

[montsta56]

Just got the new playstation gane TT, Which is basiclly Gran Turismo for Bike's an it is soooo coool Perfect for a day like today(crap weather) there's all sort's of bikes on there from beast's from the 70's to new sportsbikes.:first:

[SimJen]

Glad you like it see below:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=29462

Its a shame it doesn't have some of the best bikes though....
RC30's, SP1's, ZX7's, RC45's etc etc :( Still awesome though.
Would also be nice to have a few older models of the ones it does....I'd love to fang around on my own bike in the game :)

[Back Fire]

TT is a mad fun game.... My godly skills are unknown!!! If only I was as good in real life as I am in TT.... oh well.... off to do more races :first:

[Mr. Peanut]

Just to amuse yourself. When the bike isn't moving flick the lean joystic back and forward quickly... Watch his leg :rofl:

[DingDong]

Greatest graphics, enough bikes to keep me happy, pretty good game play and at the moment the best bike game out.

Dont likes:
the frickin 10second pens when ever you go off the track or bump another rider.
It wont do stunts (not even a power mono) like the other games! It wont hit the limiter over jumps either...

I've only had it for a couple of days... does it get better? If it dont I would recomend NOT buyin it

Tip:
Race with a manual box... the auto is not aggressive enough and you need the box as a kind of wieght shift forward/back and use seperate front/rear break controls so you can back the bike in if you go in too hot.

The most exciting bike on the game: 05 R1 street Hairy Man!:scooter:

[Darryboy]

I've got the NTSC version and was very disappointed at the acceleration of the bikes (litre bikes taking... can't remember but it's a lot longer than they should and thats with quick ratios) and it's also almost as if the bikes all have traction control with no apparent way of turning it off. Only way to highside is under braking.

I seriously think it takes about 6 seconds to get to 100 (yes KPH not MPH) on a litre race bike.

So is the PAL release the same?

[John]

After all the waiting I was dissapointed also, maybe just the high expectations - I knew it would be average but not easy, its to fucken easy - and I want to turn traction control completely off not half off I want my 190hp bikes to power wheelie etc still it has kawasakis and that I applaude.

[sil3nt]

and at the moment the best bike game out.maybe on the ps2 but when i can race with 23 other bikes on real tracks and take out half the field by crashing (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-339106346764630239)i think i'll stick to my PC game :nya:

[Sniper]

Bloody hell, you madman

[The Pastor]

what is the computer game? it looks mean....

[Sniper]

Greatest graphics, enough bikes to keep me happy, pretty good game play and at the moment the best bike game out.

Dont likes:
the frickin 10second pens when ever you go off the track or bump another rider.
That is my pet hate.


It wont do stunts (not even a power mono) like the other games! It wont hit the limiter over jumps either...
Yea it does, done it more than once on Deep Forest. Most the 1000 Superbikes will lift the front up in first. Not high mind you.


I've only had it for a couple of days... does it get better? If it dont I would recomend NOT buyin it
It does get alot better once you learn and get used to the controls

[sil3nt]

what is the computer game? it looks mean....superbike 2001. Probably wont find it in stores. I had to look elsewhere....

[Clivoris]

After all the waiting I was dissapointed also, maybe just the high expectations - I knew it would be average but not easy, its to fucken easy - and I want to turn traction control completely off not half off I want my 190hp bikes to power wheelie etc still it has kawasakis and that I applaude.
No Tuono though. Makes me cry into my latte that does. :crybaby:

[Sniper]

Errrr guys..........

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=29462&page=8

[Sniper]

I've got the NTSC version and was very disappointed at the acceleration of the bikes (litre bikes taking... can't remember but it's a lot longer than they should and thats with quick ratios) and it's also almost as if the bikes all have traction control with no apparent way of turning it off. Only way to highside is under braking.

I seriously think it takes about 6 seconds to get to 100 (yes KPH not MPH) on a litre race bike.

So is the PAL release the same?

Nope, Im fairly certain its alot faster than 6 seconds. I know that the acceloration doesnt change much from 0 to 200 on the race bikes.

[Les]

Try these to unlock the rest of the features, etc.

TT SUPERBIKES CHEATS:

Cheat Mode:
At the main menu, press R1, R2, L1, L2, R1, R2, L1, L2 to display the cheat entry option. Then, use the onscreen keyboard to enter one of the following codes to activate the corresponding cheat function:

All bonuses:
Enter WORLD CHAMP as a code to unlock all bonuses.

Auto-pilot:
Enter AUTO PILOT as a code. Press R3 during a race to activate it.

Boost in all events:
Enter BOOST as a code. Press L3 during a race to activate it.

All bikes:
Enter FUNKY MOPEDS as a code to unlock .

All collection book items:
Enter GOODIES as a code to unlock all bikes.

All helmets:
Enter BONE DOME as a code to unlock all helmets.

All leathers:
Enter GRAVEL RASH as a code to unlock all leathers.

Most events and full TT course:
Enter SPEEDFREAKS as a code to unlock most events and the full TT course. Note: This will not unlock the Mad Sunday events.

All wheels:
Enter HOOPS as a code to unlock all wheels.

Mega-boost in all events:
Enter ENERGY as a code. Press R3 during a race to activate it.

Mad Sunday events:
Enter WINGS as a code to unlock the Mad Sunday events.

Note: These codes are applied to the European version of the game.

Full Nitro:
During a Mad Sunday event, hold L2 + R2 + X to smoke the tire. Then, release R2 + L2, press Left or Right then press L3 to activate the nitro. This will give you full nitro quicker than riding the course.

[Sniper]

Cheats arent the best for a game like this. You get your kicks from winning races and getting rewards

[erik]

Dont likes:
It wont do stunts (not even a power mono) like the other games!
Turn Failure Conditions off and it'll let you shift your weight forwards and backwards with the left stick and you'll be able to wheelie and stoppie.

[Mr. Peanut]

Nope, Im fairly certain its alot faster than 6 seconds. I know that the acceloration doesnt change much from 0 to 200 on the race bikes.

Pull back on the joystick to put your weight backward. Then slowly throttle on just keeping the front wheel off the ground. MUCH faster :niceone:

[DingDong]

Great thread (thanks for mergin who ever done it), wiked game now... havent tried the cheats... the game is brilliant, no complanits apart from it being too easy to kick arse now I have full control.

I can bump and crash without the 10sec pens and can wheelie or stoppy as far as I dare... shit I can ride the game almost as well as I can ride my RF (bull-shitter):gob:

[onearmedbandit]

'Twas me who merged the threads, no problem. I think however you will find the above mentioned cheats are for the 'Isle of Mann' TT game, not the one based on Gran Turismo (which is what the thread is about).

[DingDong]

sorry to dredge this up... I have 100%'ed the game, I feel like it needs more... is there any more? those cheats dont work as OAB said (seen ya vid too, nice work)

I want to go 500kph... but can only manage 418kph (hehe), beat that:yes:

[Indiana_Jones]

I got it today, waited till it dropped from $100, to $34 lol :D

-Indy

[Motoracer]

I got it today, waited till it dropped from $100, to $34 lol :D

-Indy

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=43449

Get cracking then.

[Chrislost]

i found the bikes sledge like cars do rather then throwing you off as was the experience on the real bike...

[Jeaves]

I got it today, waited till it dropped from $100, to $34 lol :D

-Indy

Sweet $34 , i think i'll do the same .