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Motu
12th May 2004, 09:57
This guy was a lost cause - even his mother gave up on him.Then she explains why he went wrong - appears he got a motorcycle at 15...it was all downhill from there.

Sell your bike now - you could hurt someone.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3565782&thesection=news&thesubsection=general&thesecondsubsection=

jrandom
12th May 2004, 10:06
"His troubles rose from being spoiled by older relatives, and having bought a motorbike when he was about 15."

Yup. It's a sad road, that is. In advanced cases, it leads to spending vast quantities of time on the Internet, posting nonsense with Every Word Having An Initial Capital. And then there's the 'killing people' thing.

I think we should ban motorbikes, and euthanise all older relatives. A very scientifical solution.

k14
12th May 2004, 10:21
Every Word Having An Initial Capital.

Yeah, I hear you, definately a sign of bad things to come.

Motorcycling is the worst thing in the world to do, its inevitable, everyone who rides one becomes a murderer.

But seriously, I reckon we should write a letter to the nzherald site and complain about that. I am pretty sure that if it was on the news worded like that you could take them to the broadcasting standards authority. What it implies isn't that great, it should be reworded.

Hitcher
12th May 2004, 10:22
"His troubles rose from being spoiled by older relatives, and having bought a motorbike when he was about 15."

Yup. It's a sad road, that is. In advanced cases, it leads to spending vast quantities of time on the Internet, posting nonsense with Every Word Having An Initial Capital. And then there's the 'killing people' thing.

I think we should ban motorbikes, and euthanise all older relatives. A very scientifical solution.

Then again we could stop reading newspapers and remain blissfully ignorant...

James Deuce
12th May 2004, 10:31
Then again we could stop reading newspapers and remain blissfully ignorant...
Especially Granny Herald

vifferman
12th May 2004, 10:33
It actually said:

His troubles rose from being spoiled by older relatives, and having bought a motorbike when he was about 15.

"It all started from there. He used to tear all over the place and he became car mad."

So the buying of the bike made him "car mad"? Now there's some logic for you...

k14 said:

Motorcycling is the worst thing in the world to do, its inevitable, everyone who rides one becomes a murderer.

That's quite true. We know this from the current ad campaign: if you speed, you're a vicious murderer, and no-one can ride a bike without succumbing to the thrill of speeding. Ergo, all motorcyclists are vicious, callous murderers.

The Police should arrest and imprison all motorcyclists to save the public from them, and indeed, to save the motorcyclists from themselves.

jrandom
12th May 2004, 10:36
Especially Granny Herald

I'm sure it's gotten worse in the last several years or so. The pinko tree-hugging editorial slant seems awfully blatant these days.

RiderInBlack
12th May 2004, 11:25
The way I read that is the "cage " was the problem. All the death caused by this "kid" was done with a "cage" after he became "Car Mad". He should have stuck to the bike (probabily would have only kill himself then, or became more aware of the hazards of driving/riding).

MikeL
12th May 2004, 11:34
I'm sure it's gotten worse in the last several years or so. The pinko tree-hugging editorial slant seems awfully blatant these days.

I assume that comment was tongue-in-cheek. We pinko tree huggers don't think Granny Herald loves us at all. And as for Garth George and his manipulation of the letters to the Editor...

Skyryder
12th May 2004, 11:46
I would not read too much of what the mother said. I actually feel a bit sorry for her. Can not be much fun knowing that your child has killed four road users. When things go wrong we all tend to blame someone or something else. In this case its the bike and the reli's. Let's not put in the boot when the she is down.

Skyryder

RiderInBlack
12th May 2004, 11:54
I would not read too much of what the mother said. I actually feel a bit sorry for her. Can not be much fun knowing that your child has killed four road users. When things go wrong we all tend to blame someone or something else. In this case its the bike and the reli's. Let's not put in the boot when the she is down.

Skyryder
I agree with you there SR. Dam good point. I should know better as I have work as a Nurse. People lash-out when their are greaving. It's the Media that need their asses kicked here.

jrandom
12th May 2004, 12:05
I assume that comment was tongue-in-cheek. We pinko tree huggers don't think Granny Herald loves us at all.

Granny Herald loves nobody. The gun-totin' beer-swillin' rednecks get upset and accuse it of tree-huggery. The tree-huggers get upset and accuse it of National Socialism. Nobody wins, but everybody gets an opportunity to have a good old Kiwi whinge. And they all keep reading the Herald.

Marmoot
12th May 2004, 12:22
It still has that damn good Alex cartoon and I still read the sideswipe looking for something funny. Oh well, since I'm not paying for my Herald then I can't complain :Punk:
Even if I get low wages, my job still has some good perks that I can't live without.

SPman
12th May 2004, 19:33
Then again we could stop reading newspapers and remain blissfully ignorant...
That option is becoming increasingly more appealing. I've done it with TV news and I'm sure my quality of life has improved.

maybe
12th May 2004, 19:57
Might have to put me a holder for an axe on me bike.

Two Smoker
12th May 2004, 20:11
Do you know........ that all people that ride bikes die :gob: .............. Simply astounding


LMAO:killingme

130wide
12th May 2004, 20:58
Quote:
His troubles rose from being spoiled by older relatives, and having bought a motorbike when he was about 15.


Geez, my son is 16months old, already has a LT50 and is riding it by himself. So what will that make him.....................I hope a well educated bike rider.

mangell6
12th May 2004, 22:47
That option is becoming increasingly more appealing. I've done it with TV news and I'm sure my quality of life has improved.

SPman - Oh so true.

Once upon a time there was an occupation called "reporter" that consisted of accurately reporting a subject, event, etc with little or no bias. Now it is about reporting an event to sell a newspaper, get people to watch TV news, etc. Price of progress I guess.

Mike

Marmoot
13th May 2004, 07:28
Yea mike, it's a bit ironic that the more information you have = the easier it is you get duped. Because, due to the availability of more "information" you are led to believe they are true, while they are actually a propagation of 1 source (normally).

One false source and good publication = very good lie and a dumbstruck society.

For example......umm......weapon of mass destruction :D sorry guys, i couldn't help it....

It's hard nowadays to tell which one is NEWSpaper and which one is Gossip-newspaper.

Motu
13th May 2004, 08:42
That option is becoming increasingly more appealing. I've done it with TV news and I'm sure my quality of life has improved.

Actualy I stay away from nearly all information - don't watch the news or read newspapers,my radio at work is on Cool Blue - they don't have DJs adds or news...I don't know what the hell is going on.But I have the Herald as my home page just to grab some headlines when I start my computer in the morning.

I'm happy to see most of the responses to be anti news spin.

marty
13th May 2004, 08:58
I would not read too much of what the mother said. I actually feel a bit sorry for her. Can not be much fun knowing that your child has killed four road users. When things go wrong we all tend to blame someone or something else. In this case its the bike and the reli's. Let's not put in the boot when the she is down.

Skyryder

well he is 41. some countries would hold the parents responsible. here in godzone the state will have to take that role. this clown would be a great candidate for preventative detention.

matthewt
13th May 2004, 10:12
I'm happy to see most of the responses to be anti news spin.

I spent 3 years on a project that for 3 months each year it got very heavy (all negative) media coverage (like 6pm news and front page stuff at least once a week). After hearing and reading quotes from "reliable" sources I now have a very dimm view of what is printed and broadcast on the news. A lot of it was taken out of context to make it sound worse than it really was and some of it was just wrong. This also told us we had staff feeding some of this stuff out when a manager was asked for comment about a problem before we'd even had a chance to talk to her (about 1 hour elapsed time).

Even when I contributed to putting a fraud case forward (provided an audit of fraudulant data) to convict a work colleague the report that appeared the the paper after the conviction had at least 5 mistakes in the details of what he'd done.

pete376403
13th May 2004, 10:14
I spent 3 years on a project that for 3 months each year it got very heavy (all negative) media coverage (like 6pm news and front page stuff at least once a week). After hearing and reading quotes from "reliable" sources I now have a very dimm view of what is printed and broadcast on the news. A lot of it was taken out of context to make it sound worse than it really was and some of it was just wrong. This also told us we had staff feeding some of this stuff out when the a manager was asked for comment about a problem before we'd even had a chance to talk to her (about 1 hour elapsed time).

Even when I contributed to putting a fraud case forward (provided an audit of fraudulant data) to convict a work colleague the report that appeared the the paper after the conviction had at least 5 mistakes in the details of what he'd done.

You worked on INCIS??

matthewt
13th May 2004, 10:15
You worked on INCIS??

Nope. IT side went better than INCIS but public perception was probably a lot worse.

Hitcher
13th May 2004, 12:27
Nope. IT side went better than INCIS but public perception was probably a lot worse.

Sounds like a tale from the Department of Sexual Warfare...

matthewt
13th May 2004, 16:30
Sounds like a tale from the Department of Sexual Warfare...

no such department. Maybe you mean the Department of Sexual Development. Now there's a place I'd rather of spent the last 6 years !!

But yes you're right it was a DSW/WINZ/DWI/MSD system.

Wenier
13th May 2004, 17:03
No the article is right! i mean look at me i own a motorbike and have already killed 4 people and im 19, least im on my way to success!

Big Dog
13th May 2004, 18:46
Might have to put me a holder for an axe on me bike.
Every murder that ever lived breathed air, ate food, and cosumed fluids. Should we ban all of the above activities?

Surley there is more evidence of a relationship?

It doesn't even say he still rode.

I bet he still eats, drinks & sleeps (however fitfully.)

Big Dog
13th May 2004, 18:49
Then again this is exactly why I won't waste $1.20 on a paper.
Often unfounded always obsolete by the time its published and then you have to work out how to dispose of it.