250 to 1000cc jump

[Jinx3d]

Guy at work just crashed his 250. He reckons he not gonna buy another bike till his unrestricted comes through in 6 months, then he's gonna buy a GSXR1000. "I know how to ride now."

Hmmm, do I be cool, and say "yeah dude, thats a cool bike"

or

"mate you will be dead in a month making a change like that" and finish him off with a fatherly rant.

Interested to hear your thoughts

Jinx3d

[Motoracer]

Do you know how he rides? Its all got to do with the attitude. I'd do my best to ask him not to not get a thousand. There is no way in hell, he's gonna need all that performance.

Sure, if he's sencible and good enough, he'll putter around in it with out crashing/killing himself on it but he can save some money and do the same thing on a 600 as well.

I'd advise him to get the 600. It'll be a handfull for quite some time for him still.

[k14]

Hmm, thats a pretty hard choice. But I will not be going to a 1000 for sometime yet. Maybe 600 in the next 18 months, but no bigger.

Going straight from a 250 to a 1000 is a pretty stupid choice IMO. How long has he been riding for? How did the crash happen? If you feel you need to talk to him, then do it. I wouldn't want to not talk to him and then he gets killed after a few weeks on the 1000.

Although, on the other hand, a GSXR1000 wouldn't have as much power as my 250, so it will probably be safe. :2thumbsup :D

[Ghost Lemur]

As he just crashed his toofiddy I'd be definitely going with the latter.

He may roll his eyes at ya, but least if you end up having to attend his funeral/visit him in hospital, you can feel assured that you did all you can as his friend in trying to guide him in the right direction.

I'd also be curious as to why his is so impatient to get a beasty 1k.

[Motoracer]

Although, on the other hand, a GSXR1000 wouldn't have as much power as my 250, so it will probably be safe. :2thumbsup :D

You mean when the GIXXER is at 2,000 revs and your CBR is at 20,000 revs? :lol:

[James Deuce]

If he buys the 1000 after 6 months of not riding, he should make sure his first ride is a track day or a training course (preferably the latter), just to get used to the bike in reasonably controlled circumstances. 1000cc bikes are pretty user friendly these days, though things can go pear shaped pretty darn rapidly.

I wouldn't buy one, because I'm a wuss and prefer usable power and excellent handling to "OMFG I just hit warp 10 power", and oustanding handling.

His money at the end of the day.

[magnum]

unless hes extremly talented,an ex racer or done lots of track days hes asking for trouble.convince him to do some rider training on a 600 first.or buy lots of life insurance.

[Wenier]

Yea if he jus crashed his 250 i wouldnt advise him on gettin a 1000cc next. And now days as someone has said a 600cc is very adequate for road and track use.

[Two Smoker]

I wouldn't go to a thousand :crazy: imm going to a 250 next (be that an RGV250 which is like a 400cc....) then onto the 600.... i dont see myself riding a 1000 for quite some time, like 2-4 years away....... Assuming the crash was because of rider error only (no factors such as gravel desiel etc) he will probably die quite quickly if he doesnt have some self restraint and natural ability......

[MD]

Do your best to talk him out of it. Firstly there's the risk from being inexperienced- and no matter what he says, nothing makes up for old fashioned "time in the saddle" to learn the tricks and make your reactions instinctive.
Secondly, he's going to miss the fun from each step up. I remember the excitment from every new bike purchased. I went 100cc-110-125-175-400 and so on and each chane was awesome at the time. This Guy goes to a GXR1000, what the hells going to push his fun button after that??? :spudwhat: Hilary didn't climb Everest first then look for his second challenge.

[Big Dog]

Guy at work just crashed his 250. He reckons he not gonna buy another bike till his unrestricted comes through in 6 months, then he's gonna buy a GSXR1000. "I know how to ride now."

What a twat.

Depending on the circumstances of the crash......

If it was genuinely not his fault then maybe okay but going straight to a brand spankers Gsxr1000 would be one way to book his funeral.

See if you can get him to take out life insurance with you as a benificiary.

If not show him a printout of this thread, if your opinion does not amount to enough to sway this guy maybe a collective can get him to at least get some lessons.
If not f&*% him, but get him to do it overseas so its not F'ing up my acc levies. :stoogie: :angry2:

[Ms Piggy]

Guy at work just crashed his 250. He reckons he not gonna buy another bike till his unrestricted comes through in 6 months, then he's gonna buy a GSXR1000. "I know how to ride now."

So how long has he been riding? And has he already got his restricted?

Sounds like a bit of a dumb arse with not a lot of respect for bikes or his own boundaries but then again that is a gross generalisation! :shifty:

[6Chris6]

Tell him not to be such a twat!
I went from a 2fiddy to a 6 and now i'm tryin to save up the money to fix my 6 but luckily not myself!
Trouble is it's to easy to get a bit carried away with the right wrist but when your not used to it this can be a very dangerous :Playnice:

[Skyryder]

Can not disagree with these comments. Suspect this guy has already made up his mind and nothing anyone can say will change it. If he can not handle a 250 sure as hell will come to grief on 1000. Anyone want to run a book on this guy to see how long he lives.

Skyryder

[Cajun]

i went from a 250 to a 1100 on paper, but i had had my lience for coming up 10 years, okay i was on my learners for like 6 of those years. But in that time i have riden 250/400/600/800/900/1000/1200/1500cc machines. and now i have gone back to an 600, the 1000cc bikes aren't all they really cracked up to be i don't beleive

But if thats what he wants to do, nothing you say will stop him, he will have to learn the hard way, and put up our ACC levy more again, or the road toll by 1, or nothing, but all you can do is sit back and watch and help out with what ever happens. Its all about countrol, how much control you have over your ego and your gas hand

[What?]

He would do just as well to move to Iraq and wear a t-shirt declaring that Mohammed was a camel shagger.

[6Chris6]

He would do just as well to move to Iraq and wear a t-shirt declaring that Mohammed was a camel shagger.
:killingme
Nice quote for the 666th post :devil2:

[Drunken Monkey]

yer, for most people it would be a baaaad choice. I know plenty of better riders than myself who have taken a gixxer thou for a run and come back saying its too fast. It can give experienced 600-900cc riders the heebie jeebies...White Trash has got a story or two about people test riding their demo gixxer thou and deciding against it.

[Marknz]

to give you an example, when I came back to riding in 2001 and bought the VTR250, that was going to do me for a long while. I did 16000km on it in the first three months and then got really crook. Doc told me it may have been the big C (turned out it wasn't, but then I still don't know what the problem was) and I decided feck this and wanted a bigger bike. :wacko: Sold the 250 after a year and was without a ride for 6 months while I saved for the VTR1000 which I bought brand new in November 2002. Now I do of course have the benefit of a little bit of age and CDF on my side, and we'll all agree that the difference between a 1 litre V-twin and a 1 litre 4 cylinder bike is nothing but remarkable... but as long as you treat the thing with respect and try and learn bit by bit then you'll be just fine. I did most of my learning on the Wakefield Park race circuit north of Canberra (yes, the same one that is causing all the grief in Aussie racing circles right now, bunch of poofters :whistle: ) ... I reckon that is the best environment to found out how the bike works and what your limits are, not what the bikes limits are.

So why do I have a GSXR1000 now? Well I ain't getting any younger and I figured that there was no time like the present. Yes, the feckin' thing scares the bejesus out of me out times, and I feel sorry for anyone who follows me up or down either side of the 'taka's in the coming months ( I probably frustrate the hell outa Jimbo750 just going over the Haywards :whocares: ) 'cause they'll probably be either wanting to get past real quick or turn around and go home. But I'm giving it the respect that it deserves, and in time will get better and find my own limits on it. And I'll be at Manfield on the 30th to stretch things out a little more too. But hey, don't be fooled into thinking just 'cause I wear full race leathers with a speedhump and all the gear that I'm some super quick race dude. I wear them simply 'cause I have them from my bucket racing days in 'stralia, and i can't afford to pay another 2 grand to have a good road set like everyone else.

So maybe we should cut the guy some slack... there may be more to it than meets the eye. But if he does get the Gixxer thou and has a biggy in the early days, feel free to :ar15: me down

:done:

[Racey Rider]

And who's going to insure the new 1000cc bike?

From the insurance companys point of view, he'ld be a Bad risk.
Been riding for six months,, Binned his first bike,, Now wants to jump on a 1000cc bike Thankyou for coming, There the door!".

And if he doesn't tell them he had this "OFF", and they find out when he next claims, (if he's still alive to do so), Then they just don't pay out. "Thankyou for paying all those premiums, But now that you need us, we've learnt that you had a previous incident you didn't tell us about. and if you'll read the fine print in our contract..... Have a nice day. There's the door." :bye:

[Lou Girardin]

Get the Gixxer and have bigger crashes. (Maybe just one crash)

[White trash]

Ummmmm, tough one but I know of a heap of guys in the States who have NEVER ridden bikes in their lives. Decide bikes look pretty cool, down the Honda dealership and get a brand new Blase delivered.

Spend three weeks teaching themselves to ride in a carpark then sit their licence and away they go.

Not sure how but the majority of these guys survive.

In the UK a few years back, a survey was conducted to find out exactly who was killing themselves on bikes. Turns out it wasn't the young yahoos on siper bikes. It was the 45 year old blokes who'd had a 15-20 year lay off for what ever reason, then got back into it on a new Gixxer or R1. It seems you can't ride these things like you ride a CB750F but no one was telling these "mature" riders.

Food for thought.

[Grumpy]

And who's going to insure the new 1000cc bike?

From the insurance companys point of view, he'ld be a Bad risk.
Been riding for six months,, Binned his first bike,, Now wants to jump on a 1000cc bike Thankyou for coming, There the door!".

And if he doesn't tell them he had this "OFF", and they find out when he next claims, (if he's still alive to do so), Then they just don't pay out. "Thankyou for paying all those premiums, But now that you need us, we've learnt that you had a previous incident you didn't tell us about. and if you'll read the fine print in our contract..... Have a nice day. There's the door." :bye:
Year, I think the insurance companies will pretty much make his decision for him. I binned my bike a few years ago and that bumped my premium up from $700 to $2300 with the company I was with at the time. The bike was a 1000cc.
And if they don't stop him, try... :bash:

[RiderInBlack]

Guy at work just crashed his 250. He reckons he not gonna buy another bike till his unrestricted comes through in 6 months, then he's gonna buy a GSXR1000. "I know how to ride now."

Hmmm, do I be cool, and say "yeah dude, thats a cool bike"

or

"mate you will be dead in a month making a change like that" and finish him off with a fatherly rant.

Interested to hear your thoughts

Jinx3dBoth: "yeah dude, thats a cool bike, BUT you could be dead in a month making a change like that."

What was the 250? I was luck to have the GSXR250. It set me up well for the VFR750. I am glad that I didn't go for the CBR1000FL straight from the GSXR250 for the following reasons:

The weight difference would have been too much. Just getting used to the difference between the VFR750's weight and the CBR1000FL has been enough to deal with (we won't even going into the difference between the GSXR250 and the CBR1000FL).
The power jump from the GSXR250 to the VFR750 was just OK. Put the VFR in to get a chain luber fit after the first week of owning it, and was given my old GSXR250 to run around on while the VFR got done. Hello, where's all the power gone:shit: The weight and power change to the CBR1000FL would have been too much.
My road usages have changed. When I got the VFR750, I was commuting innercity mainly (plus touring and rides). The CBR1000FL would not have been as suitable for that due to it's weight. Don't commute innercity now.
I would have missed out on all the enjoyment I had from riding the VFR750 (a top speed of 240KPM was quite fast enough).
By the way as far as speed goes, I have had my ass kicked on the CBR1000F by 600's around Puke (and by TS's 150 around the corners:Pokey: ). Nothing replaces exprience and training. Don't be in a hurry to "power up" until your ready.

Personaly I feel the jump from any 250 to the GSXR1000 is way too much. At least the CBR1000F's power is relitivily tame in comparison. Throttle up too quick on the GSXR1000 and he's going to have it on top of him:gob:

As for "I know how to ride now", that tells me he has a lot to learn yet (fu*k we all do). It like saying you can drive a F1 racing car, since you know how to drive now, having got your full lience in a Fiat Bambina 500:doh:

[Jackrat]

I know two guys that made a jump like this.Both of them pranged badly shortly afterwards.Who's taking the bets an what's the odds :no:

[FROSTY]

plain and simple really --if hes a young bloke or an older bloke --the jump is too much--Id talk running costs--tyres and stuff --If it was me looking at the thou -I'D buy it to prove everyone wrong.
You diddn't say what the prang was --the guys experience level and what 250 it is
Ive got a mate thats been poodling round on a 250 for a year now--um he got sprung after 15 years of riding without a bike licenc :spudwhat: e

[FROSTY]

holey cow jackrat--1005 posts --ure an addict

[scroter]

I jumped from a GSXR250 to a bloody heavy TL1000S. Once I got used to the whole roll on roll off thing it was easy. But this sounds like the guys got the wrong attitude. Like he thinks hes a good rider just after hes crashed. Ive also ridden the Gixxer thou and didnt think it was overly powered but did think it was incredibly easy to ride. but it had 140 average speed round 65s written all over it. My TL to get that shift your arse and pull yourself over the tank. So not as much fun unless you speed your arse off. got the 600 now and even easier to ride. everyone should ride one of these at some stage brilliant bike for the road.

[Cajun]

Yeah yeah scroter thats why i got the 600 they are so much fun to ride on the road.

[magnum]

I jumped from a GSXR250 to a bloody heavy TL1000S. Once I got used to the whole roll on roll off thing it was easy. But this sounds like the guys got the wrong attitude. Like he thinks hes a good rider just after hes crashed. Ive also ridden the Gixxer thou and didnt think it was overly powered but did think it was incredibly easy to ride. but it had 140 average speed round 65s written all over it. My TL to get that shift your arse and pull yourself over the tank. So not as much fun unless you speed your arse off. got the 600 now and even easier to ride. everyone should ride one of these at some stage brilliant bike for the road.
600s rock eh scroter :first:

[DEATH_INC.]

I think like most others he's already made up his mind.Hopefully it'll scare the shit outta him the first time he rides it and he'll putt around for the next two years oblivious to the fact he'd go faster on a 600........
Tell him what you really think,then at least you've tried to talk some sense into him.If you encourage him and it all goes pear shaped you'll feel like shit for a long time.
There are always exceptions to the rules too,he may be lucky and be one of them,but with his attitude I doubt it.

[vifferman]

He should get the GSXR1000, as he's obviously a great rider. And he has a very small penis to compensate for. Tell him to go for it.

[RiderInBlack]

Owning a Honda is like shagging another bloke,it's ok as long as yer mates don't find out! :buggerd:Death Inc.

Hey, Death Inc., aren't your worried that one of us Honda riders are going to give you a good fu*king next time we see you on Kawa-cum-see:buggerd: Think you better change your signature:msn-wink:

[vifferman]

Meh.

:whocares:

It's obviously just some inferiority complex or other mental condition. Just ignore it, and continue to feel sorry for him.

[Devil]

And he has a very small penis to compensate for.
What is it with this pathetic "argument"?
Are people who let fly with this missing out on something somewhere? Daddy didnt love you enough when you were a girl? what? what is it?

Firestormer: Not attacking you specifically here. I just dont understand why people would say something so stupid.

[vifferman]

Ooh - did I use a rude word? :Oops:

Did I forget to include some smiley icon to indicate I was being sarcastic or whatever? :sneaky2:

Never mind all that. You have to ask yourself why someone would feel the need to upgrade after a mere 6 months from a 250 to one of the more powerful production bikes on the market. It could well be compensation for an inferiority complex. Or it could well be that he has become such an expert rider that he is now ready for a 1000 cc machine. In light of his recent crash, I think not.

Look - like it or not, there is a culture among bike riders where there is a not-so-subtle link between stature and bike size. Maybe Mr X has succumbed to the insidious pressure of this...

Whatever...

[bungbung]

What is it with this pathetic "argument"?...

It's ok DWTKC, the argument should work in reverse too...

[RiderInBlack]

It's ok DWTKC, the argument should work in reverse too...
Mmm, does this mean if you have a bigger bike but want to get a smaller one, that you are trying to com'penis'ate for have one that is too big:confused:
Well I have been missing my little old GSXR250 and would love to have a CBR250RR:rolleyes:

[bungbung]

Its automated. Y'see if you've got a big bike and an average penis, buying a small bike will enlarge it proportionally.

[Big Dog]

I went from a 250 to a Gsx1100f. But that was because most of the 600's I could afford wallowed under my wieght or at least got some valve bounce pulling out in first......
How this is different.
A 89f has 105 ponies, not 180.
I was very apprehensive about such a big bike.
I am not a hoon anymore (I know this assumes he is).

What I have to say in retrospect.

Having such a big bike has held me back as far as learning goes as my confidence has not yet returned to where it was on the 250.
Far from being on a faster bike I now have to swallow my pride and be happy with tail end charlie.
I was faster on my old 250 because I was more confident and often found the limits of the bike before I found mine as a rider. Now I am the far outclassed by my bike and figure it will be a long time before I catch up to it. 3-4 years at least.

[Two Smoker]

See, size of the bike and lack of riding ability shows compensation.... it should be your riding style/the speed you are capable of doing a race track or certain roads which show the size of your balls......... (or ovaries since om very PC hehehe......)

[RiderInBlack]

Its automated. Y'see if you've got a big bike and an average penis, buying a small bike will enlarge it proportionally.:laugh: :lol: :killingme Fu*k that was good BB. Definitely quotiable.

See there's another reason not to go to a bigger bike before your ready. It'll shrink you penis:cold:

[jrandom]

it should be your riding style/the speed you are capable of doing a race track or certain roads which show the size of your balls

Unfortunately I don't think size of balls and riding ability are the same thing. You can be the most timid, weedy, pale, annoyingly whiny little guy around, and still get the best times around Pukekohe.

Also, it takes enormous brass ones to do 110kph through lanes of stopped traffic.

But the guy that gets impressive lap times around Puke is still the better rider.

[vifferman]

:innocent:

[vifferman]

Its automated. Y'see if you've got a big bike and an average penis, buying a small bike will enlarge it proportionally.
Of course, like all rules, there are exceptions that prove the rule.
Here are some:
1. You may need the power of a big bike to carry your equipment around
2. You might be a troll (trolls don't like small bikes, as the squeaky sound they make makes them agitated).
3. You might be VERY VERY fat, and have broken all the small bikes you've ever ridden.
4. You might buy a bike bike because you find the vibration er... um... 'interesting'.
5. Because you can.
6. Because you're very ugly, and all the small bikes were too cute.

[bungbung]

Speak for y'self mr VTR<b>1000</b>

...oh that means me too...

[Devil]

Ooh - did I use a rude word? :Oops:

Did I forget to include some smiley icon to indicate I was being sarcastic or whatever? :sneaky2:

Never mind all that. You have to ask yourself why someone would feel the need to upgrade after a mere 6 months from a 250 to one of the more powerful production bikes on the market. It could well be compensation for an inferiority complex. Or it could well be that he has become such an expert rider that he is now ready for a 1000 cc machine. In light of his recent crash, I think not.

Look - like it or not, there is a culture among bike riders where there is a not-so-subtle link between stature and bike size. Maybe Mr X has succumbed to the insidious pressure of this...

Whatever...
Glad you took it that way. I was waiting for the reply of doom.
Inferiority complex maybe, heh but associating that with penis size... rah.
Anyway. Pet peeve (errr nothing to do with penis size, hah).

Maybe after he rides one he wont be as confident about getting one.

[vifferman]

Also, it takes enormous brass ones to do 110kph through lanes of stopped traffic.

Be careful to differentiate between an over-abundance of testosterone and a lack of intelligence....

[vifferman]

Glad you took it that way. I was waiting for the reply of doom.

Meh.
I didn't take it any way, but I thought you sounded upset and needed a little placation.
As for me, I'm in a :ar15: mood....

[Devil]

Consider me temporarily placated!
:yeah:

Hey its Friday afternoon. Who needs a bitchfest.
:beer:

[FROSTY]

innit funny--I thjink theree are only what 3 guys in new zealand that can honestly say they have explored the limits of a gsxr1000's abilities
I guess its nice to know the bike is capable if you can just get your skill level up. :2thumbsup

[Two Smoker]

Unfortunately I don't think size of balls and riding ability are the same thing. You can be the most timid, weedy, pale, annoyingly whiny little guy around, and still get the best times around Pukekohe.

Also, it takes enormous brass ones to do 110kph through lanes of stopped traffic.

But the guy that gets impressive lap times around Puke is still the better rider.
I wasn't talking about looks, but balls........ With riding the bike generally out performs the rider, therefore the majority of the battle for going very fast around corners is a mind battle, just like braking, my mind tells me to start braking at the 125m mark...... but i force myself to brake at the 80metre mark...

Also i was tlking about the fact he couldn't ride a small bike well, therefore needed a larger bike to make up for that..... He wants the looks to go fast, but we all no it aint to do with looks at all......

[Big Dog]

3. You might be VERY VERY fat, and have broken all the small bikes you've ever ridden.

:Playnice: already stated.

[Wenier]

Either way im sure its too much of a jump for this guy and he jus wants to look cool. For all we know he might be doin this cus all the other 250 riders are quickier than him and he believes the way to fix that is get an 1000cc.

I no i can jump from my 250 to a 1000cc (ive riden a 1200cc) but i would much rather get a 600cc as if i go for the 1000 i will hold my self back in skill level. This is because i wont b giving it as much as i would a 600 because of the mind sayin no its gonna throw ya if ya do that and bein me it probably would.

So point out hes a fool for thinkin after he crashed he can jus b the best and ride a 1000 piece of piss and talk some sense into him and say bout 600s being a really good stage up.

[White trash]

Either way im sure its too much of a jump for this guy and he jus wants to look cool. For all we know he might be doin this cus all the other 250 riders are quickier than him and he believes the way to fix that is get an 1000cc.

I no i can jump from my 250 to a 1000cc (ive riden a 1200cc) but i would much rather get a 600cc as if i go for the 1000 i will hold my self back in skill level. This is because i wont b giving it as much as i would a 600 because of the mind sayin no its gonna throw ya if ya do that and bein me it probably would.

So point out hes a fool for thinkin after he crashed he can jus b the best and ride a 1000 piece of piss and talk some sense into him and say bout 600s being a really good stage up.

I was actually thinking of you when this thread was posted, Wenier. Remember when we first met up and you were wanking on about how you'd be da man if yopu had an R1 and we all laughed at you. Now that I've ridden with you some and got to know you, I have no doubt that you'd be right as rain on a litre bike. The fact you realise that a 600 is a better bet, speaks volumes for your maturity. Good skills.

Just so happens I know a guy with a 600 for sale........

[Wenier]

Just so happens I know a guy with a 600 for sale........

yea i no that guy to. im still trying to figure out if i can pull off gettin that bike to. Yea no i wouldnt b able to go as quick on a 1000 until im quick on a 600. Plus ill get myself in enough trouble with the law on a 600 :laugh:

[magnum]

most males seem to have a love of "bigger is better"which works fine at a drag strip,but not always on the road/track. :kick:

[Deano]

Consider me temporarily placated!
:yeah:

Hey its Friday afternoon. Who needs a bitchfest.
:beer:

I reckon, I get enough grief from the missus.

[DEATH_INC.]

Owning a Honda is like shagging another bloke,it's ok as long as yer mates don't find out! :buggerd:Death Inc.

Hey, Death Inc., aren't your worried that one of us Honda riders are going to give you a good fu*king next time we see you on Kawa-cum-see:buggerd: Think you better change your signature:msn-wink:
:laugh: I rest my case........

[Bandito]

He might want to get some advice from somebody who isn't trying to sell him a bike -like me Take your hand off your you know what and try a modern 600. If he chooses a GSXR1000 I am sure the motor can be put to good use by a happy sidecar racer after he has written the bike (and probably himself) off.

[headhoon]

There's alot more fun to be had building up to the bigger bike. Just tell him that it's the rider not the bike, I know guys and girls that can ride 250, 400 and especially 600's as fast as alot of peeps ride thous. He will probably do himself in on the thou if he doesn't have the restraint with the lack of experience. But then again if he really wants to increase our acc costs who's gonna stop him? :ride:

[FROSTY]

I agree with previous posts--You do need to at least try to talk him into a smaller bike-He might be talking shite after the accident.
I would ask myself the question--"what if he falls off and kills himself"
If you at least tried to make him see common sense you did your best .

[RiderInBlack]

:laugh: I rest my case........
Got you to change you Sigy but:niceone: Dam and I had got the Vaseline already for you too:doctor: :laugh:

[jimbo600]

to give you an example, when I came back to riding in 2001 and bought the VTR250, that was going to do me for a long while. I did 16000km on it in the first three months and then got really crook. Doc told me it may have been the big C (turned out it wasn't, but then I still don't know what the problem was) and I decided feck this and wanted a bigger bike. :wacko: Sold the 250 after a year and was without a ride for 6 months while I saved for the VTR1000 which I bought brand new in November 2002. Now I do of course have the benefit of a little bit of age and CDF on my side, and we'll all agree that the difference between a 1 litre V-twin and a 1 litre 4 cylinder bike is nothing but remarkable... but as long as you treat the thing with respect and try and learn bit by bit then you'll be just fine. I did most of my learning on the Wakefield Park race circuit north of Canberra (yes, the same one that is causing all the grief in Aussie racing circles right now, bunch of poofters :whistle: ) ... I reckon that is the best environment to found out how the bike works and what your limits are, not what the bikes limits are.

So why do I have a GSXR1000 now? Well I ain't getting any younger and I figured that there was no time like the present. Yes, the feckin' thing scares the bejesus out of me out times, and I feel sorry for anyone who follows me up or down either side of the 'taka's in the coming months ( I probably frustrate the hell outa Jimbo750 just going over the Haywards :whocares: ) 'cause they'll probably be either wanting to get past real quick or turn around and go home. But I'm giving it the respect that it deserves, and in time will get better and find my own limits on it. And I'll be at Manfield on the 30th to stretch things out a little more too. But hey, don't be fooled into thinking just 'cause I wear full race leathers with a speedhump and all the gear that I'm some super quick race dude. I wear them simply 'cause I have them from my bucket racing days in 'stralia, and i can't afford to pay another 2 grand to have a good road set like everyone else.

So maybe we should cut the guy some slack... there may be more to it than meets the eye. But if he does get the Gixxer thou and has a biggy in the early days, feel free to :ar15: me down

:done:

Here speaks the voice of reason. The bike won't hurt ya, only the rider and the throttle goes off as well as on.

And Mark, next time we go for a ride hurry the fuck up or I'm going home.

[White trash]

Here speaks the voice of reason. The bike won't hurt ya, only the rider and the throttle goes off as well as on.

And Mark, next time we go for a ride hurry the fuck up or I'm going home.

Coments like that'll win you no friends, mate!

Next time we go for a ride, hurry the fuck up or I'm going home. :2guns:

[jimbo600]

Coments like that'll win you no friends, mate!

Next time we go for a ride, hurry the fuck up or I'm going home. :2guns:

But I can't I'm going as fast as I can.

[Racer X]

Do your best ........ ..... I went 100cc-110-125-175-400 and so on and each chane was awesome at the time. This Guy goes to a GXR1000, what the hells going to push his fun button after that??? :spudwhat: Hilary didn't climb Everest first then look for his second challenge.

A Turbo Hyabusa?? ;)

[marty]

so is going from an RS250 to a busa a bit much????

[SPman]

so is going from an RS250 to a busa a bit much????
Nah - just leave it in top for the first week and she'll be right!

[Wenier]

still ud probably enjoy a 600 more as a busa is a bit of a whale compared to a 600

[marty]

still ud probably enjoy a 600 more as a busa is a bit of a whale compared to a 600

i rode a gsxr corona 600 the other day - very nice actually, but physically not much bigger in size than the RS, and i need a bike to ride 270k a day on a couple of times a week. blackbird - 7/10, cb1300, sv1000, tlr1000 - 8/10, cbr900rr and busa 9/10, but the cbr is too head down bum up and frantic.

i found the busa much easier to cruise on - sure it's fast, but it's stable as, and for me at 6'2 100kg i just don't have to muscle it. i'm all over a 600.

[Wenier]

i rode a gsxr corona 600 the other day - very nice actually, but physically not much bigger in size than the RS, and i need a bike to ride 270k a day on a couple of times a week. blackbird - 7/10, cb1300, sv1000, tlr1000 - 8/10, cbr900rr and busa 9/10, but the cbr is too head down bum up and frantic.

i found the busa much easier to cruise on - sure it's fast, but it's stable as, and for me at 6'2 100kg i just don't have to muscle it. i'm all over a 600.

Well in that case a busa would be fine and you are kind of using it as a above average cruiser

[Slim]

So what happened?

[danb]

ROFL I have had a good laugh reading this forum.

All I can say yelling out ""dumb ass"" if he still decides to get a 1000cc....

Do send him a copy of this forum or send him a link to it!!!

Good to here the 250's do so well. I have yet to still get one "Someday" :wacko: