Prick in a BMW rammed me bike and did a runner, I have his plate- help [Archive]

sugilite

31st May 2006, 20:10

I parked up my bike in fielding today and why I was away a prick in a BMW SUV backed into it, got out looked at it, then drove off. No real damage done, just a smashed indicator. A kind citizen saw it and took down the plate and left it with the bank I was parked outside of. The bank left a note on my bike to pick up the number from them which I did (bloody good types in fielding eh!) Anyways, I don't have the original witnesses name and I only have 3rd party insurance. I'm not so pissed at the damage, but more at the principle of it.:nono:
I went to the cops and they gave me a form to fill in. I kinda don't want to hassle them to investigate a pissy little matter like this (and the prob will not anyway, and fair enuff as they should be chasing real crims)
Soooo, does anyone know how I can get this guys details from his plate? I want to deal with the matter myself in a legal way, even though I'd like to put my motocross boots on and rain suit over leathers to bulk me up and see his face when a 6 ft 8 (with boots) bike rider shows up at his door. :devil2:
I just want to ring or send letter with the the quote from the local Kawasaki store and get him to send a check to them.
I'm pissed, and want to sort it out, so any help on how to do this would be appreciated.
I'm guessing a BMW SUV is like at least a 150 K car, so he should be able to afford the $70 for a new indicator eh.

Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)

31st May 2006, 20:18

https://transact.landtransport.govt.nz

Ixion

31st May 2006, 20:18

Post office can give you details for a few bucks , just fill in a form. But there's some on the site have direct access to that info.

M'self, I prefer the 6'8" biker knocking on the door deal, but each to their own. Don't be surprised if he just ignores your letter though.

Darryboy

31st May 2006, 20:21

-edit- What he said.

sugilite

31st May 2006, 20:28

Sorry BMW, that option does not give me name or addy

Ixion, I would go to his door if he ignores me, though I'm definitly in the gentle giant catagory and would need to fake being staunch...anyone with access to info, feel free to PM me, I know how to be VERY discreet.
Cheers

mdb

31st May 2006, 20:34

Wasp

31st May 2006, 20:39

heh, you jsut bet me to it mdb :( good on ya though!

like he said, they showd the fair go guy (forget his name) change a persons car into his name within 15 minutes, WITH ONLY THE NUMBER PLATE!

thehollowmen

31st May 2006, 20:44

I got rammed riding last week. Didn't get the plate of the guy.

good luck, will the witness stand up to defend you? Disputes thingy will let you take it up with them but will cost ya $50. Question is: is it worth it?

I'd probably replace with some $20 LED indicators, go get owners details from the post office and then crap in their mail box.

Big Dave

31st May 2006, 20:45

I would get a quote on the parts - then get his name and address via PO and send him a polite letter noting the witnesses and requesting rectification with a copy of the quote.

Then consider your options if he declines.

Grahameeboy

31st May 2006, 20:45

Hey..PM me the plate number and I will tell you within 5 mins as I have access to Motochek

texmo

31st May 2006, 20:47

I am some flares I am happy to give you they are great when ignited and placed in a letter box.

Big Dave

31st May 2006, 20:49

I am some flares I am happy to give you

Why are you talking like the Mexicans in the '3 Amigos'?

Canuck

31st May 2006, 20:50

Go down to the testing station and get a buyers report on the rego it should give you all the info you need..
I got one befor i bought my bike and it told me everything (how many owners its had there names and if any money was left to pay on it) should cost around $25
Hope you get your money out of the WANKER.

texmo

31st May 2006, 20:51

Why are you talking like the Mexicans in the '3 Amigos'?
because I failed 6th form engrish.

Grahameeboy

31st May 2006, 20:51

Why are you talking like the Mexicans in the '3 Amigos'?

Gracias Amigo..youzy wathcy toozy muchy tvzy....

diggydog

31st May 2006, 20:51

TygerTung

31st May 2006, 20:53

If you go to the post office there is a form you can fill out it will cost you $2 and it will tell you everything you need.

Big Dave

31st May 2006, 20:53

Long live Engrish!

http://www.engrish.com

Grahameeboy

31st May 2006, 20:54

because I failed 6th form engrish.

Me failed by just being born in London!!

Grahameeboy

31st May 2006, 20:54

If you go to the post office there is a form you can fill out it will cost you $2 and it will tell you everything you need.

I'll do it for nuffing......

ajturbo

31st May 2006, 20:55

because I failed 6th form engrish.

we have 6 forms?? :gob: how many is that??

u4ea

31st May 2006, 20:57

Hey..PM me the plate number and I will tell you within 5 mins as I have access to Motochek
good one gb,....................:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Grahameeboy

31st May 2006, 21:00

we have 6 forms?? :gob: how many is that??

How many is what?????

imdying

31st May 2006, 21:27

If she won't pay straight up, then court is your option. Easiest way is to pay for the repairs yourself, then go to the civil section and file a claim with the disputes tribunal. Will cost you approximately $40, but that's ok, you can claim that from them too. If they still don't pay (assuming the adjudicator find you to be in the right), then you can have a court order made, which they can only ignore at their peril. Have your day in court, it's your right, and mighty good fun!

pzkpfw

31st May 2006, 21:34

If you go to the post office there is a form you can fill out it will cost you $2 and it will tell you everything you need.

What he said.

But I think they also record your details as the person who asked.

So there is a paper trail back to you.

Unless I'm wrong.

Cheers,

Grahameeboy

31st May 2006, 21:37

What he said.

But I think they also record your details as the person who asked.

So there is a paper trail back to you.

Unless I'm wrong.

Cheers,

Except if I do it.........:innocent:

chanceyy

31st May 2006, 22:04

bugger that sugi .. get info fr GB, get the buggers .. teach them for leaving a scene. Esp when they drive a nice expensive cage they can damn well afford it

sugilite

31st May 2006, 22:05

A MEGA thanks to the "saint" who just helped me, I will be taking action...princible and all that...it's a company vehicle, so will be paying them a visit on friday.....I want to do this in person, I like to look people in the eye, much harder for them to lie, bullshit or weasal there way out. paying up will be the easy option for them, lets hope they take it.
Cheers one and all.:first:

sugilite

31st May 2006, 22:17

On Fair Go tonight they were talking about how with a car name and registration you can find out the legal owner. Apparently you can also change the ownership then do all sorts of other things (sell the vehicle, take out a loan etc)!
Yeah, I was told about that, so went to the site and clicked on suspend rego, they have already changed the site and it does not give you owner details anymore, I clicked one step to far and suspended his rego, opps, honestly did not mean too. 2 wrongs do not make a right and all that, so I got the transaction number and emailed land transport to cancel the process, apologised profusely for my error. As much as I would of liked to have left it.... why stoop to their level though. :doobey:

Colapop

31st May 2006, 22:22

Good. Sorted. Sorry, got here late. Could have helped - tomorrow....

sugilite

31st May 2006, 22:28

Cheers Big Dave. As I've found it is a business, I will go in person, I do polite real good. I've already got the quote from the bike shop. Unfortunately I do not have the witness name, but they do not know that. I'll try to appeal to the honor of the person I end up dealing with...heres hoping.

I would get a quote on the parts - then get his name and address via PO and send him a polite letter noting the witnesses and requesting rectification with a copy of the quote.

Then consider your options if he declines.

As an aside. I'm constantly amazed at the power of this online community. I try to add value where I can, but in the last 2 weeks I've been helped by some really awesome people. as I said, I'm just blown away. Thanks one and all for all the help and support.:yes:

Dadpole

31st May 2006, 22:28

I am some flares I am happy to give you they are great when ignited and placed in a letter box.

Bugger that - I am still wearing mine!

Big Dave

31st May 2006, 22:39

Unfortunately I do not have the witness name, but they do not know that.

Yeah - try the right way first - then flares, in corduroy preferably - or a safari suit.

After that we monster him. I can do 6'7" in me Johnny rebs:yes:

sugilite

31st May 2006, 22:50

I can do the 6.8 in my motocross boots, but need to bulk up with leathers and rainsuit, hey, they don't have to know I'm a rake underneath it all lol
Thanks for the help, I'll let you know if we need to do a bad cop, bad cop act lol

Insanity_rules

1st June 2006, 07:21

Well were all waiting with baited breath to find out how you went. I recond people don't have the same respect for other peoples stuff anymore. Have had my cage hit while parked a couple of times in my life and it sucks! No details left either. Kinda restores your faith in human nature that someone thought to take down the plate number eh?

Str8 Jacket

1st June 2006, 07:37

Except if I do it.........:innocent:

Hate to burst your bubble mate but ALL vehicle rego enquiries are noted and leave a trial for auditing purposes. If the guy complains and its investigated LTSA or the police can check and see who looked up the rego. NOt sure of the consequences though...

sugilite

1st June 2006, 08:22

I'm not going to give him a reason to complain. I'll not get nasty or agro for the sake of a indicator. I'll play the good cop I promise!

Str8 Jacket

1st June 2006, 08:30

I'm not going to give him a reason to complain. I'll not get nasty or agro for the sake of a indicator. I'll play the good cop I promise!

Oh no! Didnt mean it like that. Was just letting people know that there inquiries are not as anonymous as they would think...
I really hope you get it sorted the guy deserves to be confronted! My workmate had his bike backed over by a truck last week and the company that employs the driver are dicking him around no end, so I hope things work out for you! Good luck!

sugilite

1st June 2006, 08:50

Oh no! Didnt mean it like that. Was just letting people know that there inquiries are not as anonymous as they would think...
I really hope you get it sorted the guy deserves to be confronted! My workmate had his bike backed over by a truck last week and the company that employs the driver are dicking him around no end, so I hope things work out for you! Good luck!

Cowpoos the bastard, told me there is a open practice day at manfield tomorrow. So I've decided to pull out the stops and get the new bits I just got installed in the 750 and get my arse down to manfield, which is conveniently positioned near the company that owns the vehicle in question.

I have a suspicion (dream?) that it will go something like this, I'll walk into their office and a scantily clad receptionist will look over at me and say, Heeeey, is that a indicator in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me? To which I'll reply "your right on both counts, that is indeed an indicator that I am pleased to see you" opps wrong dream!

Will prolly go more like this one (I hope)... I'll walk in and tell the receptionist in a cool calm and collect way that their vehicle was seen by a witness to have backed into my bike breaking the indicator. She will say, that must have been naughty Bob, he was driving it at that time, right on queue naughty Bob will walk in and say, "sorry mate, I did not see your discreet bright green, white and blue bike, sorry about that" and then proceed to write out a check for the amount that is stated on the quote that I'll show them from the shop. ('Ill prob "accidently" also pull out the police complaint form I picked up yesterday as well. Just a dream? we shall see.:doobey:

imdying

1st June 2006, 08:50

Hate to burst your bubble mate but ALL vehicle rego enquiries are noted and leave a trial for auditing purposes. If the guy complains and its investigated LTSA or the police can check and see who looked up the rego. NOt sure of the consequences though...As an IT person, it seems to me that this would be the case. To add a trigger on the that table to record requests would be quite elementary. You'll have a login of some description GB that gives you access to that database, that login will be recorded. Of course if that login is shared across multiple users then the granularity of logging is diluted, but it's fairly minor detective work to figure out who dunnit.

sels1

1st June 2006, 09:10

Will prolly go more like this one (I hope)... I'll walk in and tell the receptionist in a cool calm and collect way that their vehicle was seen by a witness to have backed into my bike breaking the indicator. She will say, that must have been naughty Bob, he was driving it at that time, right on queue naughty Bob will walk in and say, "sorry mate, I did not see your discreet bright green, white and blue bike, sorry about that" and then proceed to write out a check for the amount that is stated on the quote that I'll show them from the shop. ('Ill prob "accidently" also pull out the police complaint form I picked up yesterday as well. Just a dream? we shall see.:doobey:

I hope it goes like that. Good luck.

My daughter had her car backed into in Gisb this week, but the bloke left his number on her screen and when contacted was happy to pay for the damage - there is still some decent people out there

Ixion

1st June 2006, 09:37

As an IT person, it seems to me that this would be the case. To add a trigger on the that table to record requests would be quite elementary. You'll have a login of some description GB that gives you access to that database, that login will be recorded. Of course if that login is shared across multiple users then the granularity of logging is diluted, but it's fairly minor detective work to figure out who dunnit.

However if GB (or whoever) is asked to provide details of a vehicle and does so, having no reason to suppose that anything illegal is intended, then it is hard to see what offence is committed (apart perhaps from an internal matter if the looker-up is not supposed to do so for outsiders).

The details on the register are a matter of public record, there is nothing at all improper about anyone requesting them. that is why you can do it through the post office.

Of course if hypothetical anyone does supply the details and the subject gets the bash, anyone may have to cough up to the plod who he gave them to . But , unless anyone knew in advance that the bash was intended (or could reasonably be expected to infer it) he is OK - apart maybe from internal issues.

After all, if "anyone" walked into the Post Office and got the details, and went round and gave the bash, would we say that the Post Office clerk was in the shit for supplying them?

It is perfectly possible that 'anyone"wishes to obtain the name and address so he can send a polite letter . As the OP here intends to do. Right.

There is much hypocritical bleating about this issue. I fail to see any reason why the identity of the registered owner of a vehicle should NOT be a matter of public record. The vehicle is used on the puiblic roads. Why should the operator be allowed to operate behind a cloak of anonymity .

Trucking firms have found that driver behaviouir is much improved when the name of the driver, and a contact phone number are painted on the lorry.

_Gina_

1st June 2006, 09:42

Except if I do it.........:innocent:
Same - I am as innocent as you Grahameeboy :innocent:

klingon

1st June 2006, 09:51

I can do 6'7" in me Johnny rebs:yes:

I can do the 6.8 in my motocross boots, but need to bulk up with leathers ... I'll let you know if we need to do a bad cop, bad cop act lol

Oh my goodness! :shutup:

If you want to get your $70 back real quick, just charge all the girls on this forum an entry fee to watch you two 'bad cops'. Can't you see us drooling already?

Paul in NZ

1st June 2006, 09:59

Oh my goodness! :shutup:

If you want to get your $70 back real quick, just charge all the girls on this forum an entry fee to watch you two 'bad cops'. Can't you see us drooling already?

I'm 4'7" 120kg and can do a mean as bad parking warden act?

No?

Darn......

imdying

1st June 2006, 10:01

For sure Ixion, I'm not suggesting that GB is breaking any laws by doing so (as you say, internal rules aside), just that requests against databases are generally logged.

chanceyy

1st June 2006, 20:05

I have a suspicion (dream?) that it will go something like this, I'll walk into their office and a scantily clad receptionist will look over at me and say, Heeeey, is that a indicator in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me? To which I'll reply "your right on both counts, that is indeed an indicator that I am pleased to see you" opps wrong dream!

laffing sugi .. thats definately in the fantasy realm :nya:.... but hey they have not found a way to tax dreams yet :innocent:

Pixie

2nd June 2006, 01:51

Trucking firms have found that driver behaviouir is much improved when the name of the driver, and a contact phone number are painted on the lorry.
The very reason I won't have personalised plates

Madmax

2nd June 2006, 10:52

bugger burning his/hers mail box just blow it up
(more fun)
:innocent:

sAsLEX

2nd June 2006, 11:08

bugger burning his/hers mail box just blow it up
(more fun)
:innocent:

have you Not seen Butterfly Effect?

Fatjim

2nd June 2006, 11:41

I'm in palmy this weekend, do you want me to go round and have a chat?

madboy

2nd June 2006, 13:51

Ixion, having owners details in public record is okay if the world were full of fine upstanding citizens like yourself who don't break into and/or steal people's cars/bikes/miscellaneous possessions or go around to people's places and beat them senseless in front of their kids because they didn't like the way they got passed. When that world arrives I'll gladly write my name and address on the side of my bike.

Historically when I've had highly modified little rice rockets I've usually registered them to addresses of my parents or friends too. Just to make damn sure that short of following me, no one could easily find out where the car/s lived. It only meant the cops needed to make two phone calls not one to track me down.

sugilite

2nd June 2006, 22:55

Rightio!
I payed them a visit today.
As a lead up, I worked on my 750 till 6am in an attempt to get it ready for the manfield day! I then slept till 7 am, wow a whole hour. The bike was not ready (needs bigger main jets)
I still went to pay poos and the othe rKB boys a visit at manfield in fielding where the business that owned the BMW resides. I walked into the office and it turns out the driver was a woman, who was shall we say, very shocked to see me, infact I knew it was her from the look on her face as I dismounted of the same bike she had hit right in frount of her office lol.
She could not write the check fast enough.
Apologised profusely, tries to say she took my details, yeah right.
Anyways, I'm sure she got a big enough fright and will take more care next time.
Matter resolved, justice is served, I'm a happy camper.:doobey: