Petrol Prices bah talk about Bike Prices

[IronicCapers]

Looking at buying my first road bike and of course i have to get a 250 or less but i know what a want and its a CBR only problem is that the prices for these bikes are ridiculus im looking at nearly 20yr old bikes getting prices of 4-6grand. Dam i hate markets supply and demand shite. Some of the bikes seem to have more than 30,000km and still asking stupid prices not that i care because i dont really look at bikes with more than 30,000km especially if its 250 or under.

But hey i understand the sellers opinion cause i wanted $3000 for my 95 KDX and only got what i paid for it plus a lil more.

I just want a bike with sum fun factor not to mention kool factor that a inline4 brings.

So what im saying is that i want a CBR250R for under $2000 with less than 30,000 , few problems would be helpful but i am a apprentice mechanic so i dont mind the work. also less around the '89 mark.

Any takers im a nice guy and know how to do a few odd jobs if need be. Don't mind hard yakka.:blip:

[Madness]

So what im saying is that i want a CBR250R for under $2000 with less than 30,000

And I want to trade my 93 ZZR for a brand new ZX12-R. I'm prepared to pay cash for the difference so long as it's less than $100.

You a Tui drinker?

[diggydog]

those GBR'S aint half bad bike's at all, i went 4 a ride with roadrash on sunday, talk about go!!! & could handle the corners as well.
you r right with those prices 4 second hand bikes, and i don't think it will get cheaper, especially with petrol going up.

[IronicCapers]

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DAMMMMMM you are a funny guy but im gonna fill you in on an extra detail im a dutchman so im gonna bitch and moan about the price of anything.

Tui drinker thank god i am or i wouldnt know what you were talking about thumbs up for that one.

Really a more effective way of executing that would be to take away your sarcastic comment and simply say "Are you a Tui drinker?"
But hey im gonna try give you sum rep points for it

[Madness]

your sarcastic comment

But I am deadly serious.

Oh, and sorry to hear you're Dutch. Life can be a bitch sometimes. :nya:

[IronicCapers]

You a Tui drinker?



King of comedy im in stitches

[IronicCapers]

But I am deadly serious.

Oh, and sorry to hear you're Dutch. life can be a bitch sometimes. :nya:

My uncle has a saying "If your not dutch your not much"

He teaches this to all his nieces and nephews(his children inherited it).
He specifically tells us to say it to Delis and considering i work for some it creates an interesting moments.

And that would be a nice trade up deal.

BTW are you a Deli?

[cruxis]

Tell me about it, 250cc bikes are rip offs especially cbrs,zxrs gutless things too,. I just sold my RF900 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=57202344 for $4000 and its far better buy than $4000 250 in my opinion. Although the guy hasnt paid so I might be relisting it. If I was you screw the 250cc limit and get a bigger bike they are better value for money.

2 months before I had sold a VT250 on trademe for $1000 which I had purchased in 5 years ago for $500.

But yeah I have been looking for over 2 months for a sub 30000km runabout bike thats for less $2000. Closest Ive come to a purchase was those FXR150s on trademe. But the good ones are still fetchin $2000+ a tad overpriced I reckon.

Even those 80s FZRs and GSXRs still going for $4000 , they where that price ten years ago geez.

The good second hand buy is getting harder to come buy these days.

[Madness]

I'm a Pakeha bro, 100% pure Pakeha.

Actually I admire the Dutch. They manage to retain their place in modern Europe whilst producing S.F.A but Tulips and Marijuana Cafe's. That has to be respected.

[ZeroIndex]

And I want to trade my 93 ZZR for a brand new ZX12-R. I'm prepared to pay cash for the difference so long as it's less than $100.

You a Tui drinker?
Tui drinker remark get's green rep NICE :yes:

[IronicCapers]

LOL dam and you crack another one i luv it. Im a born kiwi but luv da heritage.
Not to mention the jokes.

Skip the whole 250 thing aye.
I could use a loop hole but im not sure of it.

Register the ownership in the name of the workshop i work at and say its a runabout. I cant do WOFs yet but i know i could get my full license almost straight away saying that i need it for doing WOFs(Got to be qualified though). And i could always borrow a KBr bike for licence tests i guess.
A 400 would be nicer since i am 6'2" and 250s are a lil small for me.

:sherlock:

[slopster]

Why limit yourself to 30,000km or less - Those bikes are good for 100,000 or more if looked after and that will drive the price down.

[IronicCapers]

Why limit yourself to 30,000km or less - Those bikes are good for 100,000 or more if looked after and that will drive the price down.


Yeah but when your buying a 2nd hand bike how do you know how many people owned it before the seller and can you trust the seller.
High revving fours are exactly that high revving machines and thatequals addtiional stress to the system and i realize they are made for it but after years of fatigue and i dont just mean the km but the weather damage however people say it. And ethanol content can be a factor. So many things can be a factor so its why i prefer to have the km low so its a factor that is less of a factor

[SlowHand]

ill give you 500 dollars for the gas gas, now you have 2500 to shop with!

oh and if you buy a bike Im keen on, i shall dutch oven your ass.

at least yer not a ginga!

[Postie]

instead of buying an expensive 250cc, i bought an old CBR400 for very little cash, did it up and that was perfect, fast enough but still looks like a 250 for the police. ride sensible and you should be ok, if you get caught, you'll be paying tax, but it will still probably work out cheaper then buying a 250. have a look for a cbr 400 and weigh up the difference in cost from purchasing a 250 and paying fines if you get stopped.
FYI, i never got stopped but then again, i'm a very lucky cunt, in many ways

[Lou Girardin]

Buy a cheap, less popular bike till you're on a full. Then put the money you've saved towards a litre bike.

[IronicCapers]

ill give you 500 dollars for the gas gas, now you have 2500 to shop with!

oh and if you buy a bike Im keen on, i shall dutch oven your ass.

at least yer not a ginga!

$500 i dnt even have 2grand yet let alone $200. Yeah did a bit of dutch baking last week sisterts were disgusted good smell.

Yeah Bigger bike sounds primo. Yeah my cousins a ginga but i was blessed with normal hair

[Gremlin]

Buy a damaged bike... they are cheap. If you're an apprentice mechanic, it will make the fixing of it good practise, and extremely cheap. Thats how I got onto an OK 250 (well, bar the physical mechanical work myself - wouldn't trust myself on that).

Just make sure what you get is repairable for relatively cheap dollars. You don't want to be looking at stuff that has a cracked frame etc.

[IronicCapers]

Yeah tht the general idea. But usually people fix their bikes up a sell em the bastards!!

[grego]

I honestly cannot figer it out why secondhand bike prices have to be so high. My last bike, a 4 year old gs 500 now stands :gob: for sale in a Bike shop for more than it was sold brand spanking new. Admitedly the price had been reduced from recommended retail but then suzuki always does this.
One side of the coin I spouse we are happy that our rides keep their value so nicely but on the flip side I have no idea why and nobody has ever managed to give me a satisfactory explanation. They do crank them out by the 10s of thousands surely and I never heard about a world wide shortage of bikes.

So go figure .................

[madboy]

It's real simple why 250s are so overpriced, or any bike that appeals to "new" riders in general. Because "new" riders don't know enough about the market to know what is value. Many also have a deathly fear of their license conditions, and so believe that a) they must buy something under 250cc, and b) that grossly overinflated price must be the going rate so I must therefore pay it. And they do pay it. So that means most other people in the market including you (unless you get real lucky) will have to pay it too.

Personally, I started on a 1990 FZR400 with 24k on it that I bought from a mate who'd had it since 12k many years before. I paid $3k. I sold it for $2k a year later, not because I couldn't get higher, but 'cos I could give some KBer a good deal and didn't care about losing a grand in return for having a line of buyers waiting to throw cash at me. But for $3k I had a bike that whipped the 250s, handled 2-up riding with my partner on the back, looked like a "real" bike, and cost me less than some thrashed and crashed old 250 would.

I never got stopped in the 8k(?) I did on it, and only got chased 3 times. Even as a learner I was no angel. 1 was a deliberate wind up and the other 2 were 'cos I was speeding. So the moral is had I not been doing something obvious I never woulda have had a problem. Even obtained an exemption from the then LTSA to do my CBTA restricted and full on the 400c.

I'm 5'11, 80kg. I loved the 400.

Not as much as I love the 636 though - but you gotta do your time somewhere :devil2:

[IronicCapers]

Thats a some really valid points you both have there and im now lookning at 400 but even some of them are overpriced but you get tht in any market. Im not gonna buy a 250 if its overprice. the point of a bike is cheap transport that is fun. So maybe after this there will be a drop in the market.....to optimistic i reckon

[Motig]

On the brighter side you shouldn't lose any money when you onsell it to the next gullible newbie.:blip: Personally I would just take a while and see whats around, that bargain will be out there waiting (just after you've given up and brought one:yes: ).

[IronicCapers]

LOL i was offered a VT250 the one with fairing. For $600 all i had to do is replace the sprocket bearing(take the motor apart to reeplace one bearing. But i said no, was i smart?
Yeah since i have no money its easy to wait

[IronicCapers]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/trader.php?do=showad&postid=619103

It maybe only for the track but at least this guy aint asking for an arm a leg and an extra nut