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Winston001
1st June 2006, 16:36
New book just been released to remind shrinking liberals just what Saddam got up to over 35 years. Here is a review: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=12218&R=EC643701F

"The book's editor, veteran French journalist Chris Kutschera, concludes that while "the American war may not have been the ideal way to put an end to Saddam Hussein's dictatorship," there was no better one, because overthrow was simply no longer possible from within a savagely repressed society. So: No invasion, more Saddam. And that was an outcome these authors--an array of Middle Eastern, European, and American journalists, academics, and activists--could not bear."

One of the points made is that only the West suffers moral agonies. No-one speaks of the choices made by human beings in other places to use guns, poison gas, genocide etc. The fault always comes back to the West.

And our thinkers and commentators simply forget the murders committed in totalitarian regimes.

Lou Girardin
1st June 2006, 16:50
I think you'll find more Iraqis have died since the invasion than Saddam killed.
Besides, if they're so happy, why are they trying to kick the hated US out?

Winston001
1st June 2006, 17:08
I think you'll find more Iraqis have died since the invasion than Saddam killed.
Besides, if they're so happy, why are they trying to kick the hated US out?

Ah, well actually Lou, that's the point of the book. Many more have died under Saddam. These writers aren't American hawks - they are European journalists which tend to be a lefty lot normally.

As for Iraqui resistance? There are 22 million people. If as few as 200,000 of them are politically motivated and armed - then that is more than enough to cause mayhem.

SwanTiger
1st June 2006, 17:08
Winston, from what I gather you are suggesting that two wrongs make a right?

SPman
1st June 2006, 17:09
And our thinkers and commentators simply forget the murders committed in totalitarian regimes.

I don't think so. Most commentators are very aware of how bad Saddam was. I don't think it justifies ripping Iraq back to the stone age to remove him though.
And how many western and Arab pockets have been deeply lined, while the average Iraqi, once again, continues to suffer - at least under Sadam they had food, power and running water!
The murders are just as bad under the "liberation". Doesnt matter who is pulling the trigger. The torture centres are back into full production and it isn't safe to go out, nor are you safe in your homes. Iraq is being torn apart for the sake of the Idealogues pet theories.
For the Iraqis, it's "heads you win, tails I lose!"

Lou Girardin
1st June 2006, 17:17
Try reading Robert Fisks, "The War for Civilisation"
It goes into more than the last few years, it will show you that the current problems in the Middle East go back to at least the 19th century.
And will also show the futility of Bush's latest escapade.
The US and Britain should be the last nations invading any part of that region, they are universally hated for their duplicity and treachery.