Windshields on gn...can it work? [girls stuff, but boys welcome]

[sunhuntin]

has anyone done this? noticed on my last two long distance hauls [from wangas to welly and back] ive had a very painful cold right in between my breasts....seemed it was in the bone it hurt so bad. ive never ever had that before, and am seriously considering a sheild to prevent it. by the time i arrived at either destination, it was almost unbearable.
numb toes and fingers i can handle...but not a cold right there.
i had on 2 jackets [one being leather] knitted jersey, tshirt and a thermal, so how the hell wind penetrated that i dont know, but it did.
both times was travelling in colder temps [early morning, and early evening] so that may have had something to do with it, but as i say, ive never had that before. plus i sometimes travel with much less layers on.
girls....could it have something to do with the underwires in my bra? thats mums theory, but i dunno?

so, do givi or someone make screens that can be fitted to a gn, and what are the pros and cons? wouldnt need to be high, just enough to stop the wind getting at my chest, and it would only be used long distance [welly, or longer] and generally only in the winter.

cheers :yes:

[sAsLEX]

Wind would get through the zips of the jackets

Get a black sack rubbish bag, cut a head hole and two arm holes and wullah a wind and water proof out layer

[Madness]

My old jacket used lo leak like a sieve and let the cold go right through my sternum like a ray-gun.

I ditched the jacket and bought a new R-Jays Evo jacket. One word, toast.

Oh, and maybe you should rub your breasts occasionally, maybe every time a male biker approaches, that would be a good frequency to start with.

[Highlander]

Yes Givi make an assortment of screens that would do the job. Most fit to the headlight mounts and some have other struts for added support.
Can't think why they wouldn't fit a GN and should deflect the wind like you suggest. Prices start about $120 for a basic smoke tinted jobbie.

Have not tried one myself but hear they are well worth while (am looking at getting one for my CB, but have been pondering that for a year now).

[sunhuntin]

cheers highlander...will have to look into that. :first:

max....i tried that, but its hard to rub through that many layers when you have numb fingers, harder when those numb fingers are covered by thinsulate gloves, lol. maybe i need me a man on the back to rub em for me?

saslex..through that many layers? lol. the rubbish bag sounds like the go. if it was under my gear, would it work the way some say rubber gloves under normal gloves work, and keep the warm in? [must get some rubber gloves.]

[WINJA]

sunhunting, old trick is to stuff a news paper down the front of your jacket

[Highlander]

I knew a guy who reakoned a wetsuit under the jeans and jacket was just the ticket. Stopped the wind and was only cold for a few minutes once it started raining...

[crashe]

Put a plastic Foodtown bag or Pak n slave bag or even your BP garage plastic bag down the front of your jacket.. it helps takes the wind factor away..

Also if extra cold put a newspaper down the front of the jacket as well.

:scooter: :scooter: :scooter:

I put a screen on the front of my bike for a little while (lent to me by scorpygirl - cheers mate) and I tried the screen. I ended up taking it off as I didnt like it...



So if possible try and borrow one first before going to the expense of buying one...


Gloves - someone told me once to put surgical gloves over your bike gloves...

There is also silk gloves that fit under your gloves as well... not sure on the cost thou.

[sunhuntin]

WINJA, IVE THOUGHT ABOUT NEWSPAPER DOWN THE LEGS OF MY JEANS, SO NO REASON WHY IT WOULDNT WORK DOWN THE JACKET. WILL TRY BOTH NEXT TIME.

highlander, another good idea.

crashe....thats a tip...dont know anyone with a screen though...and certainly not one that would likely fit a gn. so will try the newspaper and plastic garbage bag and see what happens.

[Madness]

Maybe i need me a man on the back to rub em for me?


I'm sure you would find plenty of volunteers for any such research you may want to conduct in this area. :innocent:

[sunhuntin]

hmmm, your in lower hutt i see......*thinks* :blip:

[Skyryder]

sunhunting, old trick is to stuff a news paper down the front of your jacket

Man that is an old one. Done that myself years ago. It works. Use to ride with a guy that used a thin layer of foam rubber for the same purpose.

Best bet is some sort of wind shield. It's when you are cold and uncomfortble (fatigue) that mistakes occur.

Skyryder

[sunhuntin]

luckily no mistakes....could have ended badly though. i hate riding at night. damned cars dont dip their lights...means i might as well shut my eyes. but thats another bitch, lol.

foam rubber sounds like a plan...will try the paper first and see how that works. if all else fails, a sheild it is.

do they catch the wind [side wind?] as thats the reason i removed my visor...kept catching the wind if it was up, or if it was down it funneled wind right into my face. and do scratches show up/impair vision etc? spose that depends on height too?

[Madness]

Best bet is some sort of wind shield.
Skyryder

Shuddap man!!!

I think I might be on the verge of being involved in some kind of ground breaking research program here. FFS

Oh, and any such research would have to be discreet. Mrs MAXIMUS probly wouldn't approve.

According to rfc85, screens can be a bitch in glare conditions, such as those on the Pahiatua Track yesterday.

[sunhuntin]

max...thats a good point about the glare...and any scratches would likely maximise that too.

ground breaking research....i found that letting things defrost naturally worked best. lol.

[crashe]

do they catch the wind [side wind?] as thats the reason i removed my visor...kept catching the wind if it was up, or if it was down it funneled wind right into my face. and do scratches show up/impair vision etc? spose that depends on height too?

Thats the reason I didnt like the borrowed screen.
For me it seemed to catch the wind side on... and tended to catch me out more on cornering. I had to have my visor down at all times as the wind coming up and over the screen would catch my visor... Yep I tend to ride heaps with the visor up. The wind would hit me hard on my helmet... Hard to explain..

For straight road riding it did keep the rain off the front of me but my arms still copped some rain and wind.

The screen I used was a clip onto the handlebars type.

I guess after riding for almost six years at the time I was so used to getting the full wind factor on my front... Even thou I tried using the screen at different heights on my bike... it just wasnt for me.

I tried out the screen on open roads and also city riding... same conclusion for me.

If I had used a screen from day one then I may have a different opinion on them.

[Pixie]

I'll let you in on a secret-you can get jackets that will take any cold that NZ can throw at them.
Forget about the leather-next to useless
See Mr Spidi's wares

Talk to Lou at AMPS,he may be in a good mood when he gets back from Milano,and give you a discount.

In the meantime- if you really must stuff something down your jacket for insulation,bubble wrap is the very best

[Gremlin]

There is also silk gloves that fit under your gloves as well... not sure on the cost thou.
$29.95 retail, for spidi silk gloves from Lou at AMPS.

Not so much the warmth I don't think, but much easier to pull off your gloves without the liner trying to come out as well. Also easier to wash, if you have 2 pairs.

[Oakie]

I'll enter this conversation and try not to get sin-binned.

It's to do with the size of your girlie bits and how they're positioned when you ride. If you have a reasonable gap between left and right breast and then again between your sternum and your clothes it means there is a vacant space where the contact of clothes and skin doesn't happen so no warmth is trapped. Depending on where zips and things are located you may even have a slight draft there which over a period of time will cause the chill you feel.

Try whatever is comfy to take up that airspace. A pair of socks? Or you could try a wee strip of sheepskin, fluffy side in, between your boobs. Or if they're ample enough ... something to squish 'em together perhaps so there's no gap. OK. Have I pushed my luck far enough?
Good luck with it. Oh, and yeah, a Givi screen may fix it but try the cheaper solutions first.

[number33]

Sun, you'll need to post a pic, as the affected area will need closer scrutiny. We don't want to give a wrong prognosis. A couple of side views would help also.

[Shadows]

I knew a guy who reakoned a wetsuit under the jeans and jacket was just the ticket. Stopped the wind and was only cold for a few minutes once it started raining...

And if you get really cold, just pee.

[Pixie]

Try whatever is comfy to take up that airspace. A pair of socks? Or you could try a wee strip of sheepskin, fluffy side in, between your boobs. Or if they're ample enough ... something to squish 'em together perhaps so there's no gap. OK. Have I pushed my luck far enough?
Good luck with it. Oh, and yeah, a Givi screen may fix it but try the cheaper solutions first.
Or one of those stuffed snakes that Granny used to put against the door to keep the drafts out,perhaps?

[Madness]

A Guinea Pig??

[Pixie]

A Guinea Pig??
I suggest one of the mustelid famly.
Rangeing in size from the weasel to the badger,depending on the size of the cavity that needs to be filled.

[sunhuntin]

I'll enter this conversation and try not to get sin-binned.

It's to do with the size of your girlie bits and how they're positioned when you ride. If you have a reasonable gap between left and right breast and then again between your sternum and your clothes it means there is a vacant space where the contact of clothes and skin doesn't happen so no warmth is trapped. Depending on where zips and things are located you may even have a slight draft there which over a period of time will cause the chill you feel.

Try whatever is comfy to take up that airspace. A pair of socks? Or you could try a wee strip of sheepskin, fluffy side in, between your boobs. Or if they're ample enough ... something to squish 'em together perhaps so there's no gap. OK. Have I pushed my luck far enough?
Good luck with it. Oh, and yeah, a Givi screen may fix it but try the cheaper solutions first.

oakie...was thinking of stopping to stuff something there, but would have required stopping, removal of gloves and a very cold set of fingers to stuff anything down there. so i put up with it. but next time i will give myself a 3rd boob in the way of socks, or grannys door snake. something that would sit comfortably in my bra i think, so it doesnt slip.
only the one zip, in my leather jacket that runs down the middle. i wear a denim vest that buttons down the middle over top.

amps is in auckland, yeh? lil outta my league, lol. will try whats been suggested, and if no joy will maybe get a different jacket, and maybe a screen if the worst comes down to it.

[WINJA]

motomail used to sell an electric vest ,it was like a 12 v electric blanket , get one of those , you just need to put an accesory ciggy lighter socket on your bike

[WINJA]

fucken useless motomail , 2 years now i been clicking on their shop icon on their website and it still says under construction

[FROSTY]

sun--The fairing you need is the GS450s or z 1000 styled fairing
They bolt on to the GN pretty easily and definitely defrflect a lot of the wind.
They affect handling stuff all -The only negative is that the engines sounds get amplified

[sAsLEX]

fucken useless motomail , 2 years now i been clicking on their shop icon on their website and it still says under construction

and thats why fat lazy people click to the american websites. Stuff gets here quicker as well from the states than central Auckland go figure.

[GB-Canada]

Hey just wondering if electric vests and pants are available there in NZ,they are common here. You just add a cord from your battery and plug it in .Just a thought, and more comfortable than paper I would think :yes:

[Highlander]

Not as intersting when you stop for a break though.

[vs04]

Sunhuntin.Give bruce and sue a ring [triumph club]i,m pretty sure they still have a screen you could try out,sue use to have it on her speedmaster before it was totalled.With the seating position on a gn it,s highly unlikely you,ll be looking through it and i think you,ll find that once you,ve ridden with a sheild you wont go back,go and see joe lett if you decide to buy.As far as the jacket,s concerned,use the leather for summer and get a decent jacket with an inner liner for cooler months,might cost a few dollars but worth the investment.My wife bought one through joe for around $260.00 and she just wears a t shirt underneath with no problems.With a sheild you may experience some helmet buffeting but ear plugs will sort that out.BTW did you go on the may triumph ride,was coming back from palmy last sunday after picking up the new bike and saw the guys coming through that way.Cheers.

[Sniper]

I knew a guy who reakoned a wetsuit under the jeans and jacket was just the ticket. Stopped the wind and was only cold for a few minutes once it started raining...

Rode to a dive in Picton once with my wetsuit on (Little 2mm job) and farking hell, it was warm, but felt really odd. And yes I did have clothes over the top of it.....

[number33]

Yes, breasts are not on our minds at all. Tit's important we take our health seriously.

[Jantar]

has anyone done this? noticed on my last two long distance hauls [from wangas to welly and back] ive had a very painful cold right in between my breasts....seemed it was in the bone it hurt so bad. ive never ever had that before, and am seriously considering a sheild to prevent it. by the time i arrived at either destination, it was almost unbearable.
numb toes and fingers i can handle...but not a cold right there.
i had on 2 jackets [one being leather] knitted jersey, tshirt and a thermal, so how the hell wind penetrated that i dont know, but it did.
both times was travelling in colder temps [early morning, and early evening] so that may have had something to do with it, but as i say, ive never had that before. plus i sometimes travel with much less layers on.
girls....could it have something to do with the underwires in my bra? thats mums theory, but i dunno?

At a recent first aid refresher course we were discussing hypothermia, and why is it that females appear to succumb more quickly than males. The course instructor mentioned some research that indicated that indicated women's underwear did have a large part to play, so your mum may be partially right. Rather than the underwires, have a look at the material that your bra is made from. Nylon and other such lacy synthetics are great for conducting heat away from the body. And although us guys love how you girls look in such gear, I'm sure you have no intention of putting on a show while you are riding. So wear warm wollen underwear, even if that means NO BRA.

The other reason for feeling extreme cold in the chest area has nothing to do with your clothing, its just that you are breathing in very cold air, and your own body is unable to metabalise fast enough to keep you warm. This is more likely if you are underweight as most young females are. The only solution to this cause is to ensure that you wear a warm scarf between jacket and helmet, and if possible cover your mouth and nose area so that you breathe through the scarf. This will help prewarm the air slightly and also reduce the amount of heat lost through your breath.

[sunhuntin]

jantar...thats a good point....btw, im far from underweight, lol. rode down with a thin bandanna over my face, but didnt bother with it coming back, and it didnt seem to make much difference.

vs....no, didnt go on the ride. im stuck working sundays and have a heck of a time getting someone to cover it, even just the one shift a month.

cheers guys!

[Oakie]

Hey let us know what steps you finish up taking and how it works. With the temperatures dropping dramatically this is obviously a situation we need to keep abreast of.

[Insanity_rules]

Buy a thermal! I used to suffer cold badly but a thermal under a shirt, under a double zipped nortech cordura and I'm toastie. Breasts are close to my favourite thing in the world and its mean to let them suffer!

[sels1]

A cordura jacket (and pants) is a good investment - leather and denim are just not warm enough at this time of year. Rjays are a good value for money brand, available in many bikeshops. (TSS in Lower Hutt if you cant find them in Wangas) Neck warmers and thermals underneath help.
(I find a warm jersey or polar fleece is enough under cordua, the only time I've used themals was on the Cold Kiwi)

[Pwalo]

A cordura jacket (and pants) is a good investment - leather and denim are just not warm enough at this time of year. Rjays are a good value for money brand, available in many bikeshops. (TSS in Lower Hutt if you cant find them in Wangas) Neck warmers and thermals underneath help.
(I find a warm jersey or polar fleece is enough under cordua, the only time I've used themals was on the Cold Kiwi)

Second that one. I've just got a Teknic Sprint jacket, and rode in to work today wearing just a dress shirt underneath. Warm as toast. Well until I stoped in Petone and took my gloves off.

Feck that was cold.

A small screen will also help.