anti-lemon law

[WINJA]

wouldnt it be good if we had an anti lemon law in nz , like a real good one to protect consumers ,it could be like this , if a new bike is sold and it has a combined total of just 3 recalls or warranty claims within the warranty period the consumer is entitled to at the consumers choice a brand new replacement or a full refund
and if any warranty repair takes longer than 1 week to complete a full refund or replacement is necessary
we still get trampled on with consumer law in nz id lke to see improvement

[Skyryder]

wouldnt it be good if we had an anti lemon law in nz , like a real good one to protect consumers ,it could be like this , if a new bike is sold and it has a combined total of just 3 recalls or warranty claims within the warranty period the consumer is entitled to at the consumers choice a brand new replacement or a full refund
and if any warranty repair takes longer than 1 week to complete a full refund or replacement is necessary
we still get trampled on with consumer law in nz id lke to see improvement

Sounds good Winj but I think you find that there would be very few bikes or anything else for that matter imported into God'szone.

Skyryder

[WINJA]

Sounds good Winj but I think you find that there would be very few bikes or anything else for that matter imported into God'szone.

Skyryder
ID SAY THE FIGURE WOULD BARELY CHANGE CAUSE ALL THOSE GREDDY COMPANYS THAT IMPORT AND SELL SHIT WILL STILL WANT THE SAME TURNOVER ,SOME PEOPLE WILL BE MORE LIKELY TO BUY A NEW BIKE OR CAR BEING ASSURED THE NEW ONE THEIR BUYING IS NOT A LEMON OR RUBBISH COMPARED TO THE ONE THEIR TRADING IN IT WILL RAISE THE STANDARD OF AFTER SALES SERVICE ITLL PUT EVERYONE ON EQUAL FOOTING WHEN IT COMES TO PROFIT, PEOPLE 5 YEARS AGO LAUGHED AT THE SMOKING LAWS WE HAVE TODAY BEING A REALITY

[Skyryder]

ID SAY THE FIGURE WOULD BARELY CHANGE CAUSE ALL THOSE GREDDY COMPANYS THAT IMPORT AND SELL SHIT WILL STILL WANT THE SAME TURNOVER ,SOME PEOPLE WILL BE MORE LIKELY TO BUY A NEW BIKE OR CAR BEING ASSURED THE NEW ONE THEIR BUYING IS NOT A LEMON OR RUBBISH COMPARED TO THE ONE THEIR TRADING IN IT WILL RAISE THE STANDARD OF AFTER SALES SERVICE ITLL PUT EVERYONE ON EQUAL FOOTING WHEN IT COMES TO PROFIT, PEOPLE 5 YEARS AGO LAUGHED AT THE SMOKING LAWS WE HAVE TODAY BEING A REALITY

I'm not taking the piss Winj but the fact is that if you had a law that allowed consumers the right of refund for their personal product based on a defect on someone elses item you would find that manufactures would not ship here.

There's a lot of shoddy stuff out there no question, but consumer protection is a lot better than it used to be. The sad fact is the kiwis dont know their rights under consumer law..............in fact that would hold true with citizen rights.......... right across society's spectrum.

Skyryder

[texmo]

I agree with you again WINJA I can see this thread going on for ages... your good like that.

[limbimtimwim]

Some of these states (http://www.carlemon.com/lemons.html) are smaller than NZ. I bet very few pulled out of those states.

Some of them seem pretty reasonable to me. Winja's proposal of 3 repair attempts and 1 week could be pretty rough on the importers though. Give them a month and 5 repairs within the warranty period.

After that, I'd be really fucked off if I didn't get a new bike. If I had got a new one, which I probably never will.

[limbimtimwim]

Oh hey, look at this (http://www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz/businessinfo/cga/motorvehicles.html#serious)
Damn, never read that before.

Winja, they should have replaced your fireblade...

[WINJA]

Oh hey, look at this (http://www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz/businessinfo/cga/motorvehicles.html#serious)
Damn, never read that before.

Winja, they should have replaced your fireblade...
NAH I WANTED MY MONEY BACK , ILL NEVER EVER BUY ANOTHER HONDA AFTER THEY COULDNT FIX MY BRAND NEW BIKE PROPERLY OR GIVE ME A REFUND, FUCK BLUE WING HONDA BUNCH OF USELESS CUNTS AND FUCK CYCLESPOT

[limbimtimwim]

That site says you could have rejected repairs and asked for all your cash back.

It also says you have 6 years to make a claim. Not too late is it?

[chickenfunkstar]

Wouldn't this have the effect of making new bikes alot more expensive?

[WINJA]

Wouldn't this have the effect of making new bikes alot more expensive?
ONLY THE ONES WITH A HISTORY OF RECALLS AND FAILURES, BIKES WILL BE PD'D BETTER, SERVICES WILL BE DONE PROPERLY , WARRANTYS WILL BE DONE PROPERLY THE FIRST TIME OR IT WILL START COSTING THE DEALERSHIP/IMPORTER , IT WONT COST A BEAN FOR THOSE DEALERS/IMPORTERS DOING A GOOD JOB

[Lou Girardin]

Define warranty fault.
Chipped paint?
Misaligned wheels?
Carbs out of synch?
I'd rather see importers forced to have a minimum parts stock level for all the models they import.

[SARGE]

Define warranty fault.
Chipped paint?
Misaligned wheels?
Carbs out of synch?
I'd rather see importers forced to have a minimum parts stock level for all the models they import.



they way the Lemon Law works in the States is 3 trips to the repair shop for the same problem ( mechanical or electrical) and its a lemon

[WINJA]

they way the Lemon Law works in the States is 3 trips to the repair shop for the same problem ( mechanical or electrical) and its a lemon
SO IS THERE A WORKING MODEL IN HE STATES ,IF SO DID IT EFFECT SALES?
IF MANUFACTURERS CAN TOLERATE IT THERE THEY CAN TOLERATE IT HERE

[Ghost Lemur]

I'd rather see importers forced to have a minimum parts stock level for all the models they import.

I'd hate to see that. There's already a crap selection as far as different bikes go in NZ.

If anything I'd like to see someone (or group) step up and start bringing in some variety. Maybe piggybacking on Aussie would make it more affordable.

[SARGE]

SO IS THERE A WORKING MODEL IN HE STATES ,IF SO DID IT EFFECT SALES?
IF MANUFACTURERS CAN TOLERATE IT THERE THEY CAN TOLERATE IT HERE


not one bit bro.. actually go here (http://www.yourlemonlawrights.com/state_laws/Ohio.htm) to see Ohio's law.. works nice


Section 1345.73

It shall be presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken by the manufacturer, its dealer, or its authorized agent to conform a motor vehicle to any applicable express warranty if, during the period of one year following the date of original delivery or during the first eighteen thousand miles of operation, whichever is earlier, any of the following apply:

1. Substantially the same nonconformity has been subject to repair three or more times and continues to exist;


2. The vehicle is out of service by reason of repair for a cumulative total of thirty or more calendar days;


3. There have been eight or more attempts to repair any nonconformity that substantially impairs the use and value of the motor vehicle to the consumer;


4. There has been at least one attempt to repair a nonconformity that results in a condition that is likely to cause death or serious bodily injury if the vehicle is driven, and the nonconformity continues to exist.