Power Outage - Fucking third world cuntry

[Finn]

What a useless country. Widdle bit of bad wedder and the whole Auckland CBD down. On a positive note, this goes to show how fucking useless this council is. Without traffic lights, the commute to work was 10 times faster. Proof that they are all morons and should commit mass suicide. The city just doesn't need them.

If this offends anybody, fuck off, it's my birthday.

[Freakshow]

What a useless country. Widdle bit of bad wedder and the whole Auckland CBD down. On a positive note, this goes to show how fucking useless this council is. Without traffic lights, the commute to work was 10 times faster. Proof that they are all morons and should commit mass suicide. The city just doesn't need them.

If this offends anybody, fuck off, it's my birthday.

Well Happy Birthday, Classic to hear most of the city is out!

Newlands was out last night as well!

[GR81]

i agree. the tristram lights have been out a couple of times recently... so much smoother!!! no hassles and no backlog. no accidents either!

does the inner city have radio? its fuxed on the shore!


Newlands was out last night as well!
yea, SA workmate just said cape town was naffed.

[Finn]

does the inner city have radio? its fuxed on the shore!

Radio? We can't even use the coffee machine!

[Finn]

UPDATE

Auckland is currently experiencing a significant power outage affecting the Auckland City and Manukau City areas except for parts of Wiri, Otahuhu, and Takanini.

The cause is a fault on the Transpower Network where a earth wire has snapped and fallen across the 110 kv feeder from the Otahuhu substation. All efforts are focused on restoring power as soon as possible.

North Shore and Waitakere cities are unaffected.

For more information please contact:
Philippa White
External Communications Manager Vector Limited
Mob: 021 579 522
DDI:09 978 7638

[TerminalAddict]

that just the rest of nz getting back our road taxes :)

bloody auckland thieves !!!

:nya:

[Str8 Jacket]

that just the rest of nz getting back our road taxes :)

bloody auckland thieves !!!

:nya:

Would seem that way... Bummer for you Aucklanders eh!

[terbang]

You only just figured the third world thing Finn..?

[Joni]

Its snowing quite heavy here in Chch... The only thing we do have right now is electricty ==> Insert touch wood smilie here...

Internet is on and off, sky is down.... damn air con/heater has shat itself... ah the pleasantness of bad weather in NZ.

I feel for you Finn - on your B'day and not even a cuppa...:cold:

[Karma]

Yep, unfortunately work has backup generators so I'm working today :(

Ride to work was fun, overtaking a million cages and smiling the whole way!

[Squeak the Rat]

Fuck it, I brought the car in today, it had better be sorted by home time......

Just booked some diesel to top up the generator this afternoon. Cuppa time :)

[DMNTD]

Looks like someone blew ya candles out too hard big fulla
Oh well,put on ya Hugh Hefner smoking coat,stoke your pipe and make the most of your day...:sherlock:

[Krayy]

Radio? We can't even use the coffee machine!
You think that's bad.....our damn building has a generator, so we have to work!!!! :gob:

(the damn lifts and carpark gates/lightsweren't going though)

[Karma]

Oh... and if your broadband isn't working, just give it some time eh...

[inlinefour]

What a useless country. Widdle bit of bad wedder and the whole Auckland CBD down. On a positive note, this goes to show how fucking useless this council is. Without traffic lights, the commute to work was 10 times faster. Proof that they are all morons and should commit mass suicide. The city just doesn't need them.

If this offends anybody, fuck off, it's my birthday.

However the above post just reinforces that most AKLers are mere muppets. Anyone who can not cope with no power for awhile has issues. Best excuse for a BBQ that Ive ever come accross...:nya:

[Squeak the Rat]

However the above post just reinforces that most AKLers are mere muppets. Anyone who can not cope with no power for awhile has issues. Best excuse for a BBQ that Ive ever come accross...:nya:
You've been lighting the barbeque??? So this weather is our bloody fault then.
:)

[Badcat]

What a useless country. Widdle bit of bad wedder and the whole Auckland CBD down. On a positive note, this goes to show how fucking useless this council is. Without traffic lights, the commute to work was 10 times faster. Proof that they are all morons and should commit mass suicide. The city just doesn't need them.

If this offends anybody, fuck off, it's my birthday.

yep - i rode to onehunga from sunny northcote this morning, and the traffic flow was actually much better with no traffic lights.
makes you think.

K

[Quasievil]

Bad luck for your birthday Mr Finn, hope youre making the most of it anyway dude

[Ixion]

Yes, the ride in today was wet and windy, but no traffic problems. Did have pointsmen on duty at a few of the traffic lights though.

[Matt Bleck]

Happy B'day Finn.

[Wytch]

However the above post just reinforces that most AKLers are mere muppets. Anyone who can not cope with no power for awhile has issues. Best excuse for a BBQ that Ive ever come accross...:nya:

So you're up for BBQ'ing in the rain eh? No thanks matey.. the weather here in Sth Auck is so bad it's blowing rain past my office window.. horizontally.

We have power at the moment.. but it's surging and carrying on.

This Muppet is just pleased that she doesn't have to go out anywhere until lunchtime. ;)

[idb]

We've switched you off, that's all.

[Finn]

Just went home to pick up a generator to power emergency services at the office. Namely, the beer fridge, Sky in my office and of course my computer so I can share my birthday with you guys.

Burp.

[scumdog]

What a useless country. Widdle bit of bad wedder and the whole Auckland CBD down. On a positive note, this goes to show how fucking useless this council is. Without traffic lights, the commute to work was 10 times faster. Proof that they are all morons and should commit mass suicide. The city just doesn't need them.

If this offends anybody, fuck off, it's my birthday.

Well happy fuckin' birthday then!!!

[scumdog]

Its snowing quite heavy here in Chch... The only thing we do have right now is electricty ==> Insert touch wood smilie here...

Internet is on and off, sky is down.... damn air con/heater has shat itself... ah the pleasantness of bad weather in NZ.

I feel for you Finn - on your B'day and not even a cuppa...:cold:

Whereas down here in the Riviera of the South I haven't got around to putting on any socks, that's how warm it is.

And everything still works - can watch Christchurch snow on TV!:yes:

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah, happy birthday Finn.

[Finn]

Whereas down here in the Riviera of the South I haven't got around to putting on any socks.


You know you're in the Riviera of the South when the cops run around in bare feet.

[SwanTiger]

You know you're in the Riviera of the South when the cops run around in bare feet.

Riviera of the South, the South Auckland of New Zealand.

Happy Birthday Finn.

[idb]

According to the radio just now there are 300 traffic lights down in Auckland!!!!
300!!!

[SwanTiger]

However the above post just reinforces that most AKLers are mere muppets. Anyone who can not cope with no power for awhile has issues. Best excuse for a BBQ that Ive ever come accross...:nya:

BBQ? You fucken racist bastard!

Its a Hungi or nothing.

Cuzzy Bro.

[Brett]

Hmm, seems that power is back on now...looks like it is time to head back into the office. GUTTED.

[Swoop]

What a useless country. Widdle bit of bad wedder and the whole Auckland CBD down. On a positive note, this goes to show how fucking useless this council is. Without traffic lights, the commute to work was 10 times faster. Proof that they are all morons and should commit mass suicide. The city just doesn't need them.

If this offends anybody, fuck off, it's my birthday.
Happy Birthday Finn!

btw, we are NOT a third world country... they get assistance from other nations! We are a - see my location...:blip:

[TerminalAddict]

fuck I shouldn't have said anything .... karma is a bitch.

I just got a phone call from the wife, saying the bike is on its side, been blown over :(

[scumdog]

According to the radio just now there are 300 traffic lights down in Auckland!!!!
300!!!

Wots a traffic light????

Are they good to have?
Do I need one
Do I need 300?

Oh the decisions!!

Oh the anguish of indecision.

[Swoop]

Wots a traffic light????

Are they good to have?
Do I need one
Do I need 300?

Oh the decisions!!

Oh the anguish of indecision.
If you would like one, I am happy to post a set down to you. We have ample here.
Some assembly required - batteries not included.

[BuFfY]

Well due to there being no power uni was closed :) so now I get more time to do all my assignments!

And luckily I live in Whangaparaoa where there is power!! yay1 for me!

[kickingzebra]

Just went home to pick up a generator to power emergency services at the office. Namely, the beer fridge, Sky in my office and of course my computer so I can share my birthday with you guys.

Burp.

You know the generator runs better outside... the fumes will go to your head...

What am I saying? bah, Happy birthday....

(Hook the MV up to the generator, and you might be able to power more exciting office appliances, like shredders, and Waffle machines....)

[inlinefour]

So you're up for BBQ'ing in the rain eh? No thanks matey.. the weather here in Sth Auck is so bad it's blowing rain past my office window.. horizontally.

We have power at the moment.. but it's surging and carrying on.

This Muppet is just pleased that she doesn't have to go out anywhere until lunchtime. ;)


We have one massive garage (with bikes in it ) and 2 carports with cages in it. I cant see any reason what so ever to have it in the rain. Geeze, is a lack of kiwi ingenuity becoming common place in AKL or what?:nya:

Hey swanny cuss, nar dunt ave da hungi bra, have ta make do wif da BBQ, stink eh!

[idb]

Wots a traffic light????

Are they good to have?
Do I need one
Do I need 300?

Oh the decisions!!

Oh the anguish of indecision.
Typical greedy Aucklanders hogging all the T R A F F I C L I G H T S.
Just like they keep all the T R A F F I C J A M S to themselves.

I think they have something to do with something called a M O T O R W A Y.
But then again I don't really know.

[BuFfY]

Weather shouldn't hinder a BBQ!! I grew up in Gore and we used to have BBQ's in the middle of winter... when it was snowing! Ya just need to toughin up!

[idb]

The sun's out here now.
Coronet Peak is looking ready to go!

[SPman]

Traffic always runs smoother with no traffic lights!
Want to fuck up the traffic flow, put in lights.
Want to fuck up roading traffic flows - put a couple of police cars amongst the traffic
anyway - high of 21 today - clear blue skies ....can we have some rain please.

[NodMan]

Only one thing worse than a cage!!
I just heard the 8am train from out wild west just got in to Britomart 12:30pm
(bit late for sons 9am exam)
only one thing for it...fire up the beast an get him home in record time
sure he prefer two/one wheel ride home...(just lucky I was too lazy to pull clutch out this morning)

[Brett]

Yay...just got the text from the director...'dont bother coming back' now all that i have to do is figure out whether he meant ever, or just today...oh the decisions.

[Jantar]

This just isn't fair. Canterbury gets the snow... We got none.
Auckland has a power cut.... We have to find other excuses for a BBQ.
Auckland has 300 traffic lights that don't work.... We don't even know what a traffic light is.
Auckland has traffic jams... We only get fruit jams.

Now I see why so many people want to live in Auckland. :shutup:

[ZeroIndex]

Hippo Birthday Finn :D
That is classic with those traffic lights..

[Two Smoker]

Thank fuck the power is back on....

Happy bday finn...

[Brett]

The good thing is that i have power here at home, hence instead of studying for an exam on thursday, i am sitting in front of a heater wasting time on this forum!!!

[Swoop]

I'm gonna say it again... WHEN is Auckland getting its NUCLEAR REACTOR???
C'mon people, we could throw some greenie, hippy, sandal-wearing pricks into the core and get plenty of entertainment value from it as well!!!
Hmmm, helen Clunk could open the facility and OOPS!! slips and falls in:blip:

[Jantar]

I'm gonna say it again... WHEN is Auckland getting its NUCLEAR REACTOR???
C'mon people, we could throw some greenie, hippy, sandal-wearing pricks into the core and get plenty of entertainment value from it as well!!!
Hmmm, helen Clunk could open the facility and OOPS!! slips and falls in:blip:

This outage has nothing to do with generation, its a transmission fault. No amount of generattion will be sufficient if the power can't be transmitted from the generators to the substations.

South Africa are in deep shit at the moment because one of their two nukes is out of service. Some one left an 8 cm long bolt inside the turbine after maintenance, and really f...ed it up.

[_Gina_]

Well we still don't have power here at my work in Panmure/Mt Wellington.

But boy has it been fun!! :zzzz:

I have just drained diesel from an ERF (well I directed someone to do so) so that we could top up the emergency generator, which by the way only runs the stupid server room! On start up it fires up the emergency lighting, but then the lights run on battery packs, which incidently only ran for 2 hours and only run in the main orifice. People love to go to the toilet in the dark (note to self to recommend upgrade to the bank)

Everyone is starting to whinge about going home, but if I let them go I know the power will start up again within 15 minutes or so, so fuck them they can clean the fridge and rearrange my filing draws and such like.


Oh and Happy Birthday FINN. Love your work ;)

Gg

[Motu]

What time do you pen pushers start work!? I had been at work for 1 1/2 hrs and we had been open for business for 3/4hr before the power cut hit - and you lot were still commuting! No wonder you complain about the traffic - you are the cause of it!

We could still work,if somewhat in the dark.But my hoist didn't work and no computer to do WoFs.Nobody came in anyway,I guess they figured they'd give it a miss.My phones didn't work,the non power phones had dial tone but wouldn't make calls....couldn't transfer calls to my mobile.Just another hic cup in life.

[Karma]

fuck them they can clean the fridge and rearrange my filing draws and such like.

And make me some eggs!

I'll be there in 5.

[Squeak the Rat]

According to the radio just now there are 300 traffic lights down in Auckland!!!!
300!!!
A few more than arrowtown eh?

I was just out in the car, stopped at the lights and wham something hit the side of the car. Gave me scat marks in the suit, looked around and realised it was just a gust of wind. The wellingtonians out there might be used to this, but i'm starting to be glad I brought the tintop in today (bring it on hecklers!).....

Power is now on here in Aucks, so you guys can get all your made-in-Auckland produce delivered tomorrow. Speaking of every one paying for Auckland's roading, I'm sick of paying the same price for a loaf of bread as Joe Wheatgrass the hill billy cow cocky who for some reason pays the same price for a loaf as I do yet his loaf gets transported into the middle of nowhere using shitloads of gas and part of the price I pay is to cover this. Roads my arse. User pays, I want cheaper shit.......

Man i need some food......

[scumdog]

A Speaking of every one paying for Auckland's roading, I'm sick of paying the same price for a loaf of bread as Joe Wheatgrass the hill billy cow cocky who for some reason pays the same price for a loaf as I do yet his loaf gets transported into the middle of nowhere using shitloads of gas and part of the price I pay is to cover this. Roads my arse. User pays, I want cheaper shit.......

Man i need some food......


And the wheat etc for the loaf came from where and arrived how???


Nice troll anyway.

[Brett]

And the wheat etc for the loaf came from where and arrived how???


Nice troll anyway.

What has that got to do with the price of bread? bread just arrives in a shop from a factory...no questions asked. Like eggs, they dont come from anywhere do they? Thats right they come from a shop!:doobey: :blip:

[Finn]

I just heard the 8am train from out wild west just got in to Britomart 12:30pm

So even the trains were quicker this morning.

[idb]

Power is now on here in Aucks, so you guys can get all your made-in-Auckland produce delivered tomorrow.
The radio says that large parts of Akld are still off.
You must be in one of the lucky spots.

The sun is streaming in my window now.

[Squeak the Rat]

And the wheat etc for the loaf came from where and arrived how???


Nice troll anyway.
Us Aucklanders prefer low-GI gluten-free rice bread. The rice comes from china.

Heck, I'm just jealous - some friends are moving down south Alexandra way. $450,000 for a big 3 bedroom house on a large section. Daily commute of microscopic proportions. Where a crime wave constitutes some one stealing a surfboard. And bread is only $2.50 a loaf.... :apint:

[Joni]

The sun is streaming in my window now.Be carefull matey.... no no in fact keep going, because when this shit hits your side of the world you will hear a collective Mwaahahahaaaa from the rest of NZ!:blah:

[Gremlin]

Power is now on out in Howick area, came back at 1330-ish

Power goes off... fine... can't access uni resources for exam study (and notes are all electronic anyway)... power comes back, but bluetooth accesspoint doesn't... everytime something happens, the bluetooth takes a few extra minutes to auto config itself.

Occasionally there must be spikes or something, as randomly I can't get web pages... meh... roll with the punches I guess :yawn:

edit: HAH! Auckland Uni put up a message on the student page saying it is officially closed for today. I feel quite sorry for those with exams today tho...

[Squeak the Rat]

The radio says that large parts of Akld are still off.
You must be in one of the lucky spots.

The sun is streaming in my window now.
Lucky is a subjective opinion of my plight. Do I feel lucky (well do I?, punk :)) sitting here having to work and looking so much forward to sitting in my car for 7.5 trillion light years to drive 6km? Yep, it's my choice and I feel so :stupid:

What am I going to do without TV tonight? Yeah, ok, that's 2 minutes gone, but eeegads........ [Edit:] If only Sylvia Park was open tonight.....

[Karma]

edit: HAH! Auckland Uni put up a message on the student page saying it is officially closed for today. I feel quite sorry for those with exams today tho...

Bit pointless if you havn't got the power to view it.

[Gremlin]

Bit pointless if you havn't got the power to view it.
That must be your fault then. Stop posting on KB and start giving me my internet...

Here I am, sitting in a black room, with a dying laptop battery, AND I CAN'T GET ANY INTERNET YOU FOOL!!

Bloody hell!!! :nya:

[idb]

Be carefull matey.... no no in fact keep going, because when this shit hits your side of the world you will hear a collective Mwaahahahaaaa from the rest of NZ!:blah:
Did I mention how lovely Coronet Peak is looking from where I'm sitting?

[SARGE]

I'm gonna say it again... WHEN is Auckland getting its NUCLEAR REACTOR???



keep letting terrorists loose and im sure the US will supply all the nukes you will need,,,

[Dafe]

What? The council are morons you say!!!

Why not solve the problem once and for all........

Move out of Auckland.

[idb]

We're bored now.
We'll switch you back on.

[NC]

Happy Birthday :)

[The_Dover]

Maybe Mr Poos decided that the flyswatter needed a bigger kick and his nuts of steel fired the network?

[Smorg]

Pointless drivel who gives a fuck

[yungatart]

happy Birthday Finn, look on the bright side, you may be another year older - but your day could only get better
Cheers

[Lou Girardin]

Happy Birthday you old prick. You don't look a day over 50 either.
What'd you get for a pressie?
Something to last you for the next 3 1/2 weeks?:blip:

We gave up at AMPS around 11.00. I went home, put my feet up and settled down to have a nap in front of F1, when they rang to say the power's on and come back to work.
Fucking Transpower, can't even do outages properly.

[sAsLEX]

edit: HAH! Auckland Uni put up a message on the student page saying it is officially closed for today. I feel quite sorry for those with exams today tho...

Tell me about it!

Oh well two week break before i get to sit it now

[_Gina_]

Everyone is starting to whinge about going home, but if I let them go I know the power will start up again within 15 minutes or so....

Well, thanks to Murphy my predictions were right, 15 minutes after I let them go the power started...go figure!

[Finn]

Happy Birthday you old prick. You don't look a day over 50 either.
What'd you get for a pressie?
Something to last you for the next 3 1/2 weeks?:blip:

Thanks Pops.

My pressie is the 3 1/2 week break. When she asked me what I wanted, I said 6 weeks?

[Lazy7]

traffic WAS heaps better.

still pretty scary crossing a major intersection on a bike with no lights, high winds and pouring rain.

i felt like a real hard man riding to work today.

haha. the scared little boy was screaming his head off deep inside but i shut him up!

[chanceyy]

Happy birthday finn


just curious .. aucks with no power affects you how ? when your location say Gore !!

know several things when it storms good, aucks always loses power, along with other pockets of the country when they lose power, do we hear from them .. NO ..but aucks with no power for 30 seconds and OMG the phones go crazy ..

all I know is that there is a god ...cause I am on holiday

(yippeee does the happy dance) :D

[Finn]

traffic WAS heaps better.


Yeah it's amazing the diff it made. Some PR person in the Council quickly made the media believe there were major traffic problems. There weren't. They just didn't want people knowing the truth - that the system is inaffective.

I read the bit about 300 traffic lights. No wonder our grid is overloaded!

Aaron Slightly pissed...

[BuFfY]

Gore never has power.... part of its charm :)

[Finn]

Happy birthday finn


just curious .. aucks with no power affects you how ? when your location say Gore !!

know several things when it storms good, aucks always loses power, along with other pockets of the country when they lose power, do we hear from them .. NO ..but aucks with no power for 30 seconds and OMG the phones go crazy ..

all I know is that there is a god ...cause I am on holiday

(yippeee does the happy dance) :D

Gore is my main residence. I just come to auck to see my mistress.

[idb]

Has the power come through yet?

[kickingzebra]

Gore is my main residence. I just come to auck to see my mistress.

Something to do with infectious disease isn't it?? When the rash goes down she lets you visit...

[chanceyy]

Gore is my main residence. I just come to auck to see my mistress.


then get ya mistress to come down to gore .. then you won't suffer aucks woes :nya:

[Finn]

Pointless drivel who gives a fuck

I don't appreciate your tone young man.

[Finn]

then get ya mistress to come down to gore .. then you won't suffer aucks woes :nya:

And how would I explain this to my wife?

[Gremlin]

Has the power come through yet?
I'm good... maybe thats what delayed my emails??

Only received an email from uni at 3pm, telling all that uni was closed, exams were cancelled etc. Of course, all exams for the day would have started by 2:15pm I think...

Perhaps it would be nice if you let through the emails?? I mean, surely uni wouldn't have been that slow to act?? :wait:

[BuFfY]

They closed our campus at 10.30 but we only knew because we were there... I guess if we had a later class we would have been anoyed cause we don't get emails or anything even though we are now part of Auckland Uni...

[chanceyy]

And how would I explain this to my wife?


tell her how it is .... or put the mistress up in some sordid accomodation that must be around gore

[Karma]

It's ok... I'll fax you some power now...

[Maha]

Gore is my main residence. I just come to auck to see my mistress.
Yeah but isn't your mistress battery operated?........power shouldn't really effect you..........:killingme
HaPPy BirTHdAy Finn...........:drinkup:

[idb]

It's ok... I'll fax you some power now...
You obviously know nothing about power - fax machines need electricity to work too.
You'll have to courier it up there.

[Karma]

Do you accept pidgeon post?

I've got a team of fully trained hamsters generating power right now.

[The_Dover]

Do you accept pidgeon post?

I've got a team of fully trained hamsters generating power right now.

Are you certain they are not Rock Badgers?

[Karma]

Do you know how hard it is to import rock badgers from Israel...

[The_Dover]

I have some Palestinian contacts that may be able to help with that.

[Karma]

Hmm...

Not sure I'd want them spreading negative vibes amongst the existing hamster residents.

Wouldn't want any suicide bombings or anything... you'd smell burnt fur for days...

[Indiana_Jones]

Radio? We can't even use the coffee machine!

Dear God, not the coffee!

But yeah, no coffee was a bitch for us too. But we have lots of windows so we kept on with our studies =P

-Indy

[Drunken Monkey]

.... Some PR person in the Council quickly made the media believe there were major traffic problems. There weren't. They just didn't want people knowing the truth - that the system is inaffective.....

Not true. Traffic was banked up from East Tamaki to town because of a 4 car pile up on the New Market fly over. There was also gridlock going from town to the shore.
City streets were good though.

[SlashWylde]

Hmmf, don't know what all the fuss was about. We had plenty of power here in East Tamaki. All day. :yawn:

Does seem a bit silly to have only one line feeding a major center of business tho.

Then again this sort of thing is controlled by the same people who allowed the Sylvia Park malls to be built then act surprised when traffic comes to a standstill as thoudands of pea brained morons, oh sorry, 'consumers' try and all go to the same shop at the same time. Next they'll have to widen the Mt Wellington highway to cope with the traffic.

Seems common sense and foresight go out the window when there are short-term dollars to be made (or saved).

[Ixion]

Next they'll have to widen the Mt Wellington highway to cope with the traffic.


Yep.The plans are drawn up. Links to the new "Eastern Highway that isn't"

[Finn]

Not true. Traffic was banked up from East Tamaki to town because of a 4 car pile up on the New Market fly over. There was also gridlock going from town to the shore.
City streets were good though.

Yeah, I was referring to crossing the city which is normaly a nightmare because of all the traffic lights that aren't sinc'd. Take em out and it's fine.

[Drunken Monkey]

Yeah, I was referring to crossing the city which is normaly a nightmare because of all the traffic lights that aren't sinc'd. Take em out and it's fine.

They are synched! Just synched to annoy = I got every farkin red light between Ponsonby Rd and Grafton bridge at 7pm on a Sunday night. I think it took me almost 10 minutes to drive 3km.

[Ixion]

They are sync'ed. Problem is they are sync'ed around the speed that Mabel drives at. So any sane person gets to the next light way before it is green.

[Scorpygirl]

I was home sick today.... bloody flu.... arrrrchoooo!!! But power was not restored to Mt Eden today until 4.30 pm!!!! :gob: 8 hours!!!! :shutup:

Happy Birdday Finn!!!! Have a good un!!

[Jonny Rotten]

dam why couldnt the power be out in albany... then i would have had to work.. which means i wouldnt have had to ride over the bridge in 140kmh winds

[paturoa]

Power was out for about 20 secs this morning b4 the generators started up. From my desk I can see the Queen St / Mayoral drive intersection and it was sweet all day except for the fire engines and ambulances which a couple of times had to give way to each other. They had the biggest shit day of anyone, hope they had a generator to power their diesel pumps otherwise they would have run dry.

Biggest bitch was at lunch time there was no hot food anywhere for first lunch.:angry:

[Scouse]

happy birthday Finn

[raster]

Spent the morning trying to figure out where the outages were, then try and figure what we were supposed to be doing this morning, then travel to where they are to check they were OK and that we won't be able to fix their computer system because of the minor problem.

Traffic was fine as long as the motorway was not involved on the trip, people were so helpfull at intersections, whole lines of traffic would stop to allow a vehicle to pull out of an intersection.

Then when penrose power came on at 3:07 all brown stuff hits the whirly thing, thats when many of our customer attempted to startup their systems, had one with a failed raid set and corrupted exchange database, AAAAHHHHH

Finish that off in the morning!!!!???? :shutup:

[raster]

OH happy birthday FINN:doobey:

[WINJA]

no coffee ? just light a fire at work ya loser , harpy burfdey finn

[ZeroIndex]

Was watching some news program, and two bright uni students ditched studying for the day, and were selling steak rolls on some main street with their bbq.. damn brilliant entrapranuers

[Sniper]

Bloody winey Aucklander, happy birthday.

Anyway, now you know what its like in some of the less fortunate countries in the world. Now stop wining about being powerless and start building fires and wandering naked.

[DemonWolf]

.....

Then when penrose power came on at 3:07 all brown stuff hits the whirly thing, thats when many of our customer attempted to startup their systems, had one with a failed raid set and corrupted exchange database, AAAAHHHHH

Finish that off in the morning!!!!???? :shutup:

What no UPS on their servers? idiots (though in sayin that... Large Exchange systems take forever to shutdown properly)

[Timber020]

A loss of power for a little while and everyones in tears, makes me worry what happens when something really bad hits.

what ever happened to the real men?

[oldrider]

You guys got some shocking weather up there but we have just got our Brass Monkey issue about a week too late.
Thought you might like to see what you missed.
If I got it right, pics should be.
1) Out our window this morning.
2) Looking at our house.
3) Entertaining the kids in the "old school yard".
4) Road conditions.
Cheers John.

[James Deuce]

Pic 3 = "YAAAAHHH, GINGAS!"

[Maha]

If you live in Auckland, harden up, you live the NZ's biggest city, you have the biggest building, you have the biggest bridge, you have the biggest motorway, you have the biggest mall, so when something is gonna go wrong, its gonna be the biggest........:nya:
Helen still loves ya.........:love:

[Jantar]

Bugger, even "Oh my tomata" had snow, and we missed out again. Paddocks are still green, and i still had no excuse for not working outside today. Damn.

[Mr. Peanut]

Thames lost its power as well. Had to light a fire for dinner :D

[aff-man]

Well that was interesting. Did an exam yesterday... an the computers at tech. Power would randomly turn off and reset the computers so had to save like every 3 seconds just in case I lost anything...

Shouldv'e been cancelled like auckland uni

[Finn]

A loss of power for a little while and everyones in tears, makes me worry what happens when something really bad hits.

what ever happened to the real men?

You're lucky your job only requires a chain saw and pruning gear.

[Squeak the Rat]

I was standing in the office listening to the coffee machine gurgle as the generator purred away, and I listfully gazed out the window to see if surrounding businesses were once again being given the privilege of receiving electricity from the powers that be...

when a train went past!

Aha, the power must be on then, I thought to myself.

But then I remembered, we had to buy our train carriages from an Australian MOTAT because we still run an antiquated diesel system. I had a slight chuckle as I remembered our rail does not run on electricity.

Bloody good planning though - they kept the trains on diesel for 50 years after every one else because they knew there'd be power cut!

:scooter:

[Finn]

I had a slight chuckle as I remembered our rail does not run on electricity.

Actually, they do run on electricity that is generated by a big smelly diesel engine. I recall the media saying that Britomart is the worlds first underground train station for diesel trains. I wonder why? Dumbasses.

[The_Dover]

I think all of the hicks in the sticks are missing the point about yesterdays power cut.

It wasn't a great hardship for anyone in Auckland, apart from maybe the fags on Ponsonby Rd that had to drink cold lattes and mince about in half darkness.

It was just a fucking huge embarassment to a country that is struggling to haul itself into the 21st century with piss poor power distribution, tranport and communication networks.

I hope the tourists don't lose interest in The Lord of The Rings bullshit cos there is no other sustainable industry that can't be replicated more cheaply and efficiently elsewhere in the world. After all, cows and sheep only need grass and water. And maybe tender loving from Poos.

[ManDownUnder]

I think all of the hicks in the sticks are missing the point about yesterdays power cut.

It wasn't a great hardship for anyone in Auckland, apart from maybe the fags on Ponsonby Rd that had to drink cold lattes and mince about in half darkness.

It was just a fucking huge embarassment to a country that is struggling to haul itself into the 21st century with piss poor power distribution, tranport and communication networks.

Agreed - and I would add the hardship was felt by business owners (y'know - the ones that had the balls to put their saving on the block, and actually get out there and do something - rather than just enjoy the safety of a "secure job"

I hope those in the power industry have at least identified any single points of failure and are cutting them out of the system... This is pathetic.

[James Deuce]

You imports have to realise something. For a country with the population of Hampshire, we've done pretty fucking well with our infrastructure. The ROI on any infrastructure work we do is shit compared to the UK, because the UK is a similar geographical size and 55 million more people live there. Our GDP is crap compared to all the Scandinavian countries but we have more kilometres of sealed road per head of capita than they do.

We used to sustain high comparative standards of living by borrowing heavily. When the UK closed their market for primary produce to us in the'70s, we couldn't pay back the loans, then the US effectively closed its markets to us in the '90s, just as we started making money, by subsidising every local US primary produce and niche fodd and alcohol industry that we were exporting there. Then Argentina couldn't pay for our exports in the early 00's any more because their currency tanked - it goes on, and on. If you want better infrastructure, pay more tax.

[ManDownUnder]

If you want better infrastructure, pay more tax.

A good point - but wouldn't/couldn't that have come out of the budgetary surplus? I realise Transpower needs to operate under it's own financial mandate, but someone of this impact should be entitled to a hand out of sorts... Auckland City kissed $59m+ bye bye yesterday.

I understand there is an option of using a 110kV line and upgrading it to 220kV. I hope that gets through the ever restrictive RMA....

[The_Dover]

Do you think Southampton would be without power for 8 hours if a fucking cable snapped?

You can fire all the shithouse historical excuses you want but the fact of the matter is that NZ sees itself as a western, developed country and Auckland is the economic hub. The infrastructure is poorly developed and fragile.

Maybe if it wasn't a socialist nanny state giving hand outs to refugees and wastrels then more could be invested on infrastructure? It's not like our tax rates are particularly low.

[James Deuce]

A good point - but wouldn't/couldn't that have come out of the budgetary surplus?

No, because that would send a message about Government ownership of infrastructure at a time when they are trying to shed responsibility for all NZ infrastructure.

Road, rail, power generation and telecommunications are the things that I would argue SHOULD be Government owned. Commercial organisations don't do anything until they absolutely have to, and then it is usually the cheapest bid. Government on the other hand plans to dot the "i"s and cross the "t"s, irrespective of cost.

[James Deuce]

Do you think Southampton would be without power for 8 hours if a fucking cable snapped?

You can fire all the shithouse historical excuses you want but the fact of the matter is that NZ sees itself as a western, developed country and Auckland is the economic hub. The infrastructure is poorly developed and fragile.

Maybe if it wasn't a socialist nanny state giving hand outs to refugees and wastrels then more could be invested on infrastructure? It's not like our tax rates are particularly low.

Missed the point by a mile mate.

[Swoop]

Got home to find the power still off due to a local fault (yay).
Had a really pleasant few hours sitting in front of the fire with candles going, glasses of red wine, and making soup on top of the firebox!
Bloody brilliant! Even managed to miss the first items on the news which was a bitch-fest about no power!
Electricity is greatly over-rated!

[The_Dover]

Missed the point by a mile mate.

Care to clarify your point then?

Other than saying we are small but we're doing ok compared to so and so?

[WickedOne]

Apology from Transpower

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[Paul in NZ]

Care to clarify your point then?

Other than saying we are small but we're doing ok compared to so and so?

This country had a pretty good infrastructure base when it was built by central government. Unfortunately, that was all paid for by heavy borrowing and eventually, after a few bad projects most of the vital infrastructure was sold off, privatised or turned into an SOE. The govt needed cash and wanted to reduce it's footprint in the technical areas.

My own feeling was that the political landscape had become dominated by failed teachers and lawyers who felt threatened by engineering types so the deliberately sold off anything technical and grew the 'social' side of govt.

In the old day, infrastructure was planned in cycles with the aim of being ahead of the demand curve at all times. It was pretty well done in the main and while people talk about the high cost of everything then, that was more to do with the technology of the time and people taking a long term strategic view.

These days the view is more 'commercial' but not particularly good from an engineering point of view. ie - yes we can connect you very quickly but the thing we are connecting you to is - erm - creaky - BUT LOOK! We will give you a free mouse and its BLUE.... The face of all this technology has been buffed up, but the core has not developed much from the 70's.

So, to answer the question, NZ has a world class commercial infrastructure. ie, Private industry runs these systems and you get what you pay for.

Paul N (disgruntled ex NZPO tech)

[Winston001]

I kind of agree Paul. There is an argument (which appeals to me) that a skinny mountainous country with a small population needs one integrated electricity supplier. We used to have one - the New Zealand Electricity Department. They ran dams and high voltage lines. They also educated electrical engineers.

Now we have Transpower and at least 5 different major generating companies all competing in the same small market. The irony is that Transpower, Meridian, Mercury, and Genesis are all owned by the Government. That leaves only Contact and Trustpower as the private enterprise businesses.

Frankly I think the government should buy these out and revert to a national system.

[Motu]

Agreed - and I would add the hardship was felt by business owners (y'know - the ones that had the balls to put their saving on the block, and actually get out there and do something - rather than just enjoy the safety of a "secure job"


Zero income yesterday - and yet I still have to pay my guys for doing nothing,pay my rent...and...and...and.It's like going to the supermarket,filling up your trolley,then going through the check out and paying for it....and walking out with nothing.

[Pixie]

No, because that would send a message about Government ownership of infrastructure at a time when they are trying to shed responsibility for all NZ infrastructure.

Road, rail, power generation and telecommunications are the things that I would argue SHOULD be Government owned. Commercial organisations don't do anything until they absolutely have to, and then it is usually the cheapest bid. Government on the other hand plans to dot the "i"s and cross the "t"s, irrespective of cost.
Transpower is state owned.
You may remember,that whenever an upgrade is proposed some group of new age nimby arseholes go out protesting.It's happening in Helensville at the moment.They don't want a powerstation,but they whinge when there are power outages.
If they don't like living under a powerline,they should get jobs and move somewhere better

[ManDownUnder]

No, because that would send a message about Government ownership of infrastructure at a time when they are trying to shed responsibility for all NZ infrastructure.


Gotta disagree there - the message they want to send and the truth are 2 different things. They bailed out the BNZ, they bailed out Air NZ.

This is effectively Power NZ...


Road, rail, power generation and telecommunications are the things that I would argue SHOULD be Government owned. Commercial organisations don't do anything until they absolutely have to, and then it is usually the cheapest bid. Government on the other hand plans to dot the "i"s and cross the "t"s, irrespective of cost.

Agreed. NZ is too small to have anything other than a natural monopoly on those assets. Natural Monopolies, given a profit motive, will naturally abuse a competitive market.

This power outage has affected the whole of NZ (to a greater or lesser extent)... it needs looking at!

[Paul in NZ]

And this is the argument for centrally controlling things like power distribution and generation. One small group cannot hold the whole country back because the govt can legislate and MAKE it happen.

No one wants power lines in the back yard and obviously, compensation comes into it but... We all want power.. Bit of a problem really! Sometimes you have to make shitty decisions that adversely affect a small group for the greater good of the country. Not something the current crop of popularist pollies want to do under any circumstances...

The hidden goodies that came with the old days are only just becoming apparent. Govt agencies trained world class engineers from school leavers on and now? Train yourself and there might be a job and will certainly be a massive student loan.. sad....

[James Deuce]

Transpower is state owned.
You may remember,that whenever an upgrade is proposed some group of new age nimby arseholes go out protesting.It's happening in Helensville at the moment.They don't want a powerstation,but they whinge when there are power outages.
If they don't like living under a powerline,they should get jobs and move somewhere better

Yah I know, but it's subject to commercial goals and drivers, and it would take a "Cunliffe Event", a la Telecom to get them to change.

[James Deuce]

Gotta disagree there - the message they want to send and the truth are 2 different things. They bailed out the BNZ, they bailed out Air NZ.

This is effectively Power NZ...

Err, yeah, that was my point - sarcasm man, sarcasm :)

[ManDownUnder]

Err, yeah, that was my point - sarcasm man, sarcasm :)

:niceone:

To early for me, not enough caffeine err... looking for excuses...!

Top man

[Squeak the Rat]

NZ$1,600,000,000 for Working For Families next year.

Lets encourage more people to have kids and stretch our infrastructure further.

[oldrider]

I find this amazing.
Auckland has an electrical outage and everyone cries "Nationalise".
The part of the power system that failed "is" nationalised! (Government owned)
So how in the hell will "Nationalising" a government owned enterprise fix the problem?
Since "deregulation" of the power system in NZ the government has a larger % of it under their control than they had before!
There lies the problem.
Because of deregulation the government is making a mint out of the re-organised SOE structures. They wont change anything.
Wake up NZ you are being fed :bs: on this subject. :blip: John.

[Paul in NZ]

I think it's the way the SOE's are run John. They are expected to 'make a profit' and be commercial yet the market is not actually open.. So you get all these nitwits that think they are free enterprise types stuffing things up.

No matter who runs it, there WILL be outages, it's technology and technology breaks sometimes.. hell, even my Starlet needs a tune up once a decade or so...

I was kinda lookin at a bigger picture.... and probably wrong.. again......

[sAsLEX]

It was funny to see that some intersections would give no rights to certain people trying to get through if people followed the give way rules! Where by a steady stream of traffic held the give way rule in its power for the 5 mins I watched!

[placidfemme]

What a useless country. Widdle bit of bad wedder and the whole Auckland CBD down. On a positive note, this goes to show how fucking useless this council is. Without traffic lights, the commute to work was 10 times faster. Proof that they are all morons and should commit mass suicide. The city just doesn't need them.

If this offends anybody, fuck off, it's my birthday.

lol & happy birthday (even though its late)

Traffic in Parnell (Stanley Street) was flowing smoothley... no lights meant to waiting, saw a few dodgy moments, but nothing that would be considered a "close call". Only bad part is being a pedestrian trying to cross those roads lol

[Finn]

I find this amazing.
Auckland has an electrical outage and everyone cries "Nationalise".
The part of the power system that failed "is" nationalised! (Government owned)
So how in the hell will "Nationalising" a government owned enterprise fix the problem?
Since "deregulation" of the power system in NZ the government has a larger % of it under their control than they had before!
There lies the problem.
Because of deregulation the government is making a mint out of the re-organised SOE structures. They wont change anything.
Wake up NZ you are being fed :bs: on this subject. :blip: John.

Well said that man! I'd also like to point out that Auckland contributed most of the now $7 - 8 billion dollars in tax surplus that will be wasted on utter bullshit and finally, just before the election they will make all sorts of promises to catch more votes.

It's time to say enough is enough.

[Squeak the Rat]

$1,600,000,000. Working for Families.

[chanceyy]

I think all of the hicks in the sticks are missing the point about yesterdays power cut.

It wasn't a great hardship for anyone in Auckland, apart from maybe the fags on Ponsonby Rd that had to drink cold lattes and mince about in half darkness.

It was just a fucking huge embarassment to a country that is struggling to haul itself into the 21st century with piss poor power distribution, tranport and communication networks.


gezzzz now i distinctly remember not that many yrs ago when half of the states was without power for approx hmm was it four days to one week ... !!

guess ours is not that big of an embarrassment after all if the part of the good ole USA can lose power for an extended period of time .. whats 4-5 hours for one of our cities .. due to a winter storm .. (not like its the whole darn country)

[Str8 Jacket]

(not like its the whole darn country)

Depends where you live, to some people "the whole damn country" is only North of the Bombays...

[The_Dover]

When one broken earth wire can cause such a failure I'd say it was pretty fucking embarassing.

Unless you're proud of living in a third world country.

[chanceyy]

Depends where you live, to some people "the whole damn country" is only North of the Bombays...


yeah good point .. guess some ppl need to expand their horizons a little further south ..

Quite frankly a situation like this has been building for quite a few yrs with population growth, and networks not being upgraded fast enough.

But alot of aucklanders really need to get their heads outta their asses and realise they are still not as hard done by as others .. thinking of ppl down south still snowed in still without power on the 2nd day ... their business are taking a major hit as well !!

[Badcat]

Unless you're proud of living in a third world country.

it's pretty funny all the "third world country" comments going around..i wonder if any of the people comparing us to the third world have lived in a third world country?

kinda like the Herald reporting last year that "junk food was as addictive as heroin". bet that journo had never even TRIED heroin.

[Finn]

yeah good point .. guess some ppl need to expand their horizons a little further south ..

Quite frankly a situation like this has been building for quite a few yrs with population growth, and networks not being upgraded fast enough.

But alot of aucklanders really need to get their heads outta their asses and realise they are still not as hard done by as others .. thinking of ppl down south still snowed in still without power on the 2nd day ... their business are taking a major hit as well !!

The South Island snow problem occured naturally, in other words we have no control over the weather. The power issue in Auck was caused by "she'll be right" and too much red tape by Government. They didn't learn their leason when it was out for 5 weeks in 1998.

Auckland is the power house of NZ. No denying this. We need infrastructure!!!

[chanceyy]

When one broken earth wire can cause such a failure I'd say it was pretty fucking embarassing.

nah shit happens .. the way it fell, wind, still can not be predicted


Unless you're proud of living in a third world country.

proud to be living in nz? Damn straight !!

ppffffttt if you think nz is a 3rd world country ... the infrastructure is 50 times better than the 3rd world countries ... travel to a 3rd world country .. you then may be grateful to live in nz ..

or simple you can leave for another country that you think is world class !!

[The_Dover]

it's pretty funny all the "third world country" comments going around..i wonder if any of the people comparing us to the third world have lived in a third world country?

kinda like the Herald reporting last year that "junk food was as addictive as heroin". bet that journo had never even TRIED heroin.

Yeah, I've lived in Nigeria. Don't ever remember losing power for 8 hours during the daytime, the odd blackout for an hour or so at night but that was about it.

As for heroin:shutup:

[Karma]

nah shit happens .. the way it fell, wind, still can not be predicted

That has gotta be the funniest thing I've heard all year.

NZ... wind... rain... and you couldn't predict this?

[The_Dover]

nah shit happens .. the way it fell, wind, still can not be predicted


What a progressive attitude you have. Ever thought of becoming a politician?

[chanceyy]

What a progressive attitude you have. Ever thought of becoming a politician?


lmfao .. hell no ..having you lot on ya back all day ... nah .. i like the simple quiet life :nya:

[chanceyy]

That has gotta be the funniest thing I've heard all year.

NZ... wind... rain... and you couldn't predict this?

isn't a bit like binning the bike .. can you predict when thats gonna happen ?

[Squeak the Rat]

But alot of aucklanders really need to get their heads outta their asses and realise they are still not as hard done by as others .. thinking of ppl down south still snowed in still without power on the 2nd day ... their business are taking a major hit as well !!

Auckland is New Zealands major city, like it or lump it.

Foreign investors don't say "hmmmm, looks like Alexandra got some snow, we might not invest after all". They will look at Auckland having two major power outages in 8 years and think that this is a country who can't plan, who doesn't learn, and why the **** should I invest my billions here......

Sure, the US had some power outages. Once. But do people trust the US economy? On the whole yes. Do people trust the NZ economy? Not without evidence, and we've just provided the wrong sort of evidence.


PS - Quote of the day from last nights news about the power in the sth island "if your power is still not on then it won't be fixed until tomorrow morning". How the feck would those people be watching????

[Karma]

Can't predict it, but that's why I wear a helmet...

Shouldn't the power cos have similar backup systems?

[Badcat]

Sure, the US had some power outages. Once.

once?
dude - i lived in san fransisco.
once my ass.
ask any californian about power outages.

[chanceyy]

Can't predict it, but that's why I wear a helmet...

Shouldn't the power cos have similar backup systems?

probably .. but who would fund that ?.. since govt de-regulated, and they are run to make a profit for shareholders .. hmmmmmmm can we see shareholders investing back into infrastructure or wanting to line their pockets ??

[The_Dover]

once?
dude - i lived in san fransisco.
once my ass.
ask any californian about power outages.

Yeah, but they've got more arse bandits per square kilometre than Ponsonby, therefore the latte consumption will be exponentially higher. The net result is a "brown out" when all the fags need a nice warm latte after a spot of up hill gardening.

[chanceyy]

Auckland is New Zealands major city, like it or lump it.



Lump it thanks .. its a known fact that NZ economy starts with the agriculture industry .. once farmers stop spending, it filters through to eveyone else including aucklanders ... when farmers start spending, everyone benefits ..


feild days will be a class in point .. how many millions will be generated in 4 days .. ohh yeah thats not auckland is it !

[Squeak the Rat]

once?
dude - i lived in san fransisco.
once my ass.
ask any californian about power outages.
Hey, don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant. :innocent:

But good point. Ask the general non-US publics opinion of California ... looting, gangs, violence, earthquakes, civil unrest, movie stars etc etc etc.....

[Squeak the Rat]

Lump it thanks .. its a known fact that NZ economy starts with the agriculture industry .. once farmers stop spending, it filters through to eveyone else including aucklanders ... when farmers start spending, everyone benefits ..


feild days will be a class in point .. how many millions will be generated in 4 days .. ohh yeah thats not auckland is it !
True, but fieldays aren't a MAJOR CITY now are they?

[Badcat]

Hey, don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant. :innocent:

But good point. Ask the general non-US publics opinion of California ... looting, gangs, violence, earthquakes, civil unrest, movie stars etc etc etc.....


yep - cali is a living testament to all that is wrong in modern US culture.
BUT....
no -one says "oh that dirty old california, we'll do no business with them - they can't keep the lights on....

[Str8 Jacket]

Field days you say?
Check out this story, they dont need electricity...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3699306a3600,00.html

[onearmedbandit]

PS - Quote of the day from last nights news about the power in the sth island "if your power is still not on then it won't be fixed until tomorrow morning". How the feck would those people be watching????

Ahh, I thought the same thing myself. Then I remembered seeing in the same story some hardy type South Islanders with their 12v battery and 12" TV. Once those people had seen the story, they would've sent smoke signals out.

Just saw at the bottom of the screen the members viewing this page. 'britneys underpants' is/are watching this page. I checked their profile, and apparently I can send a private message to britneys underpants. Not that I'd want to...

[Maha]

Auckland dwellers get over your poor selves, seems everyone else has, fact is the CBD is only worth a visit for a laugh, it smells really bad, ironicly i dont mind the outta bits, if it up to your standed then do what i did, move out. Theres so much more NZ out there, really there is......:shutup:

[idb]

I think it's the way the SOE's are run John. They are expected to 'make a profit' and be commercial yet the market is not actually open.. So you get all these nitwits that think they are free enterprise types stuffing things up.

No matter who runs it, there WILL be outages, it's technology and technology breaks sometimes.. hell, even my Starlet needs a tune up once a decade or so...

I was kinda lookin at a bigger picture.... and probably wrong.. again......
I think that it's been acknowledged that Transpower took the attitude that a good way to maximise profits was not to carry out maintenance.

Now I understand (and John might know more about this) they are looking to increase line charges on a localised basis to pay for upgrades and maintenance that should have been carried out as a matter of course by a prudent operator anyway.

[idb]

Auckland is the power house of NZ. No denying this. We need infrastructure!!!
And the SI hydro lakes are the power houses of Auckland.
Bow down and give us respect you latte drinkers!

[Lou Girardin]

once?
dude - i lived in san fransisco.
once my ass.
ask any californian about power outages.

The ones caused by Enron manipulating power supplies to line their pockets?

[The_Dover]

And the SI hydro lakes are the power houses of Auckland.
Bow down and give us respect you latte drinkers!

If we could just get rid of the fucking hippies we could build our own nuclear power plant in Otahuhu and leave you sheep shaggers to enjoy your parochial ways.

[Badcat]

If we could just get rid of the fucking hippies we could build our own nuclear power plant in Otahuhu and leave you sheep shaggers to enjoy your parochial ways.

nah - leave them. they're funny.

[idb]

If we could just get rid of the fucking hippies we could build our own nuclear power plant in Otahuhu and leave you sheep shaggers to enjoy your parochial ways.
How many hippies are there in Otahuhu?

[The_Dover]

How many hippies are there in Otahuhu?

I thought there were a few, judging by the smell of weed in the air last time I was brave enough to venture that far south.

Mind you, they didn't look like the friendliest, peace lovers in the world.

[Finn]

And the SI hydro lakes are the power houses of Auckland.


I would have said "And the SI hydro lakes provide the power for houses in Auckland" but that's just me.

On that note, we need a reason for the South Island so best keep quiet.

[idb]

On that note, we need a reason for the South Island so best keep quiet.
If we weren't here what would you call your island?

[Finn]

If we weren't here what would you call your island?

North Island. Stewart Island would be promoted.

[MacD]

nah - leave them. they're funny.

You know what's really funny? The North Island has supplied more power to the South Island over the past three months than vice versa.

See the red line in the attached figure - net northward HVDC transfer on a 7 day moving average. It's mostly negative, a southward flow! ;)

(Source: Energylink Market Review (http://www.energylink.co.nz/mr/mr.htm))

[Lou Girardin]

You know what's really funny? The North Island has supplied more power to the South Island over the past three months than vice versa.

See the red line in the attached figure - net northward HVDC transfer on a 7 day moving average. It's mostly negative, a southward flow! ;)

(Source: Energylink Market Review (http://www.energylink.co.nz/mr/mr.htm))

Facts like this are not helping.
If they can't feel superior to us by supplying power, what have they got left?
Oh that's right, empty roads, good weather, fewer dole bludgers.

[idb]

You know what's really funny? The North Island has supplied more power to the South Island over the past three months than vice versa.

See the red line in the attached figure - net northward HVDC transfer on a 7 day moving average. It's mostly negative, a southward flow! ;)

(Source: Energylink Market Review (http://www.energylink.co.nz/mr/mr.htm))
I don't doubt you're right, but why is the HVDC north shown running at zero and the HVDC south as maximum when the net northward transfer is at it's maximum to the south (bearing in mind it IS a 7 day average)?

[terbang]

If we weren't here what would you call your island?

New Zealand

[Jantar]

I don't doubt you're right, but why is the HVDC north shown running at zero and the HVDC south as maximum when the net northward transfer is at it's maximum to the south (bearing in mind it IS a 7 day average)?
The graph is correct. HVDC transfer is either in north flow, or its in south flow. So when the North flow is averaging close to zero, and the southflow is high, then the Nett North will be at a high negative value. It is interesting that Energylink are only showing the last 3 months. This is at the end of one of the South Islands driest summer-Autumn periods. Over the past 12 months there has been a high nett North flow on the HVDC, despite the extremely dry period.

Maybe Oldrider can remeber the HVDC Pole 2 commisiioning when we had "round power". That is transferring north on one pole while transferring south on the other. Maximum north transfer was close to 820 MW and maximum south transfer was 580 MW.

[MacD]

Yes, I realise that the net flow is seasonal, it just was a useful graph for a retort. ;)

However, you may be able to confirm whether we Aucklanders really have the Waikato and Huntly systems to thank for our power, rather than South Is generation?

[Flatcap]

If we could just get rid of the fucking hippies we could build our own nuclear power plant in Otahuhu and leave you sheep shaggers to enjoy your parochial ways.


I agree with you Dover - Nuclear power is the way to go - One should be built at Marsden Point as the landacape is rooted by the Refinery anyway, and if the thing melts down the radiation cloud will blow into the Pacific.

If only we could do something about those damn hippies.......:ar15: :2guns:

[Karma]

I agree with you Dover - Nuclear power is the way to go - One should be built at Marsden Point as the landacape is rooted by the Refinery anyway, and if the thing melts down the radiation cloud will blow into the Pacific.

If only we could do something about those damn hippies.......:ar15: :2guns:

Build an eco friendly housing development between the power plant and the pacific?

Problem solved.

[Jantar]

Yes, I realise that the net flow is seasonal, it just was a useful graph for a retort. ;)

However, you may be able to confirm whether we Aucklanders really have the Waikato and Huntly systems to thank for our power, rather than South Is generation?

That is correct. Auckland draws most of its electrical energy from Otahuhu and Huntly, with the Waikato helping out. When the HVDC is in north flow Wellington takes the lot.

But the New Zealand grid is an integrated system and electricity generated at any one point can't really be said to be sent to any specific location. Rather its as though all generated electricity goes into one big pot called the grid, and all electricty demand is taken from that pot.

[sAsLEX]

But the New Zealand grid is an integrated system and electricity generated at any one point can't really be said to be sent to any specific location. Rather its as though all generated electricity goes into one big pot called the grid, and all electricty demand is taken from that pot.

And we are an Isolated system so an outage like that could send us in to a rather large blackout like what the states had not that long ago on the east coast!

[Karma]

Hmm... what would Brian Boitano do if he was here today? he'd make a grid for the power to go through, that's what Brian Boitano'd do...

[Jantar]

How many here remember the big blackout of 1987?

At 7:05 pm on Feb 6th 1987 the entire top half of the North Island went black. A circuit breaker at Whakamaru in the Central Waikato exploded, and the flying debris disabled the protection that should have isolated the fault. Whakamaru, Maraetai and Waipapa power stations all shut down and were isolated from the grid. All power lines into and out of Whakamaru were disconnected at their remote ends. Huntly, Karipiro and Arapuni tried to carry the entire top half of the north Island. It was a losing battle, Karapiro tripped off, Huntly which had been picking up went out in sympathy and poor Arapuni with 120 MW of generation tried for almost 60 seconds to supply the 1200 MW of demand in Hamilton, Auckland and the far north. It was a cascade failure, and every place north of Taupo went black. It took 3 hours and 20 minutes to restore power. Back then all power station and substations were fully manned and all controllers were trained in fault handling and system restoration.

In 1992 Transpower moved the North Island Control Center form Whakamaru to Hamilton, substations were de-manned and a new computer control system was installed. The experienced controllers warned that in any future cascade failures restoration of supply would be compromised. 5 Controllers out of 13 resigned in protest against the move. By 1995 ECNZ de-manned and remote controlled most of their power stations and most experienced Operators were made redundant.

In 1996 Max Bradford spilt up ECNZ into competing companies, Transpower was made sole operator/owner of the grid, and the electricty market was established. Transpower no longer controlled the power stations, but could dispatch them as result of the market offer and bid process.

Whereas, under the old system Transpower could control which stations generated to maintain efficiency and security, that control was now lost. However Transpower still had to maintain grid security.

Today Transpower use an N-1 contingency system to maintin grid security. That is they dispatch electricity in such a manner that they can lose any single transmission circuit, or any single generator and still maintain supply to all parts of New Zealand at the correct voltage and frequency.

What happened yesterday far exceeded these parameters. An earth wire above a 110KV tower failed in the wind. Normally this would not cause any issues at all. However in this instance the wind blew the wire across, not one, but two circuits. Both circuits take power from Otahuhu to Central Auckland. If it had have taken out two separate circuits, (eg Pakuranga - Otahuhu and Penrose-Otahuhu) then no outage would have occured. But this fault took out two parrallel circuits. The resulting surge also shutdown the country's largest generator, which just happens to be at Otahuhu. So now we have not one, but 3 simultaneous faults, ie a cascade situation.

There is not a city in the world that can sustain a cascade fault. Auckland shut down.

Remember all those substations that were de-manned? No longer are there trained staff on the ground ready and able to restore this type of fault. Auckland went withgout power for over half a day. Just think how much longer it would have been if a circuit breaker at Whakamaru had exploded.

[Karma]

What happened yesterday far exceeded these parameters. An earth wire above a 110KV tower failed in the wind. Normally this would not cause any issues at all. However in this instance the wind blew the wire across, not one, but two circuits. Both circuits take power from Otahuhu to Central Auckland. If it had have taken out two separate circuits, (eg Pakuranga - Otahuhu and Penrose-Otahuhu) then no outage would have occured. But this fault took out two parrallel circuits. The resulting surge also shutdown the country's largest generator, which just happens to be at Otahuhu. So now we have not one, but 3 simultaneous faults, ie a cascade situation.

There is not a city in the world that can sustain a cascade fault. Auckland shut down.

But this my point...

Why was the system set in the first place that two lines run so close together like that? isn't the point of a parallel line supposed to be that it will run if the other is taken out? Not if they're both in the same place...

[Jantar]

But this my point...

Why was the system set in the first place that two lines run so close together like that? isn't the point of a parallel line supposed to be that it will run if the other is taken out? Not if they're both in the same place...

Such a fault is so rare as to be treated as extremely unlikely, yet similar faults have happened in the past, and for some reason seem to affect Mt Roskill and Penrose more than any other substations. I can no longer remeber the exact years, but ther was a cas of a chicken coop being blown into the Mt Roskill substation and blacking out most of Auckland in the late 1970's. A circus erecting a tent under the Penrose circuits in the early 1980's took out most of Auckland.... etc, etc. All of these made national news.

Last week a fault at Otira, similar to yesterday's, shutdown the entire west Coast of the South Island. Who heard anything about it?

[sAsLEX]

But this my point...

Why was the system set in the first place that two lines run so close together like that? isn't the point of a parallel line supposed to be that it will run if the other is taken out? Not if they're both in the same place...

here is my solution in MS CAD

[Jantar]

In addition to your new link, all the other circuits would need to be upgraded to handle the potential loading. The possible short circuit currents would require new earth mats, and ALL circuit breakers in the loop to be upgraded.

A new substation (Mangere or Henderson area) )would be more efficient, quicker to establish and cheaper. Half of all current circuits from the south to go directly to the new susbstation.

[Karma]

here is my solution in MS CAD

Quality mate, pure quality...

You didn't do any work on Toy Story did you?

[sAsLEX]

Quality mate, pure quality...

You didn't do any work on Toy Story did you?

Lead animator in Cars, you can see the subtlty of the ray tracing in the above diagram!

[Pathos]

And the funny thing is Auckland probably lost more in productivity than they would because of a v8 race.


:/ just to rub it in.

[inlinefour]

I agree with you Dover - Nuclear power is the way to go - One should be built at Marsden Point as the landacape is rooted by the Refinery anyway, and if the thing melts down the radiation cloud will blow into the Pacific.


I think those who want Nuke power can sod off to where ever they came from, or go to the far que. I was up Marsden Point way last week with the boy on the z50 down on the beach. Nothing rooted at all, bloody great area in top condition. I find this whole issue rather amusing and how some people cannot cope with power. Anyone would think its a natural disaster the way that some AKLers are still preforming. Watched Cambell Live last evening, fark I laughed! Imagine the preformance if AKL had to endure what they are going through down the South Island.

[idb]

Put a nuclear station on the Maui platform off New Plymouth when it finishes up.
That would be an ideal place!

[far queue]

I think those who want Nuke power can sod off to where ever they came from, or go to the far que.

You called :doobey:

[Jantar]

We are currently experiencing severe gales (force 9 on the beaufort scale). The result being that the power has been intermittant all night, and finally went out at 07:08 this morning. it came back on at 09;45. Thats two and a half hours without power. I was sure that such a long ouutage would make the national news as during that time I could't watch TV or check my email, or even have a latte. Instead I checked that our roof was holding, nailed up some timber that was working loose in the shed, had an orange juice and read a book.

But I've checked, and there has been no mention of our power cut on the news. Apparently outages have to happen in Auckland to be deemed significant. :whistle:

[sAsLEX]

We are currently experiencing severe gales (force 9 on the beaufort scale). The result being that the power has been intermittant all night, and finally went out at 07:08 this morning. it came back on at 09;45. Thats two and a half hours without power. I was sure that such a long ouutage would make the national news as during that time I could't watch TV or check my email, or even have a latte. Instead I checked that our roof was holding, nailed up some timber that was working loose in the shed, had an orange juice and read a book.

But I've checked, and there has been no mention of our power cut on the news. Apparently outages have to happen in Auckland to be deemed significant. :whistle:

Your work mate was outside at 4 in the morning nailing his wondow back on lol suprised he didnt get blown away.

[Lou Girardin]

But I've checked, and there has been no mention of our power cut on the news. Apparently outages have to happen in Auckland to be deemed significant. :whistle:

Doesn't fruit still grow without power?

[Jantar]

Your work mate was outside at 4 in the morning nailing his wondow back on lol suprised he didnt get blown away.

I warned him last week that he should have his house guy wired down this time of year. :yes:



Doesn't fruit still grow without power?

It should do so. The only thing is that the trees are being uprooted by the wind. :bye: