Same roundabout, different moron!

[Wolf]

(Rant warning)

Well, I'm home and safe - no thanks to a bloody retarded truckie.

Coming along the short bit of Killarney Road from the lake. Stop at the roundabout as cars are going through. Then a car comes through the roundabout from the other side of Killarney Road towards the lake, blocking traffic from Greenwood Street. I take my cue and move out into the roundabout. Well and truely on the roundabout but not yet at Kahikatea Drive where I would signal my intent to turn off the roundabout to go up Killarney Road towards Dinsdale. A truck and trailer unit that was stopped at the roundabout on Kahikatea Drive elects to release the clutch and pull out in front of me.

The truckie looks straight at me and gives me the "thumbs up" as if to say "it's all good, you don't mind me pulling out in front of you while you're leant over in the midst of a turn, do you, bro?"

While my hands and feet found brakes, clutch and gear lever and I tested out the XT's emergency braking capacity, my thumb found the horn.

I came to a halt in the midst of the roundabout while a truck and trailer lumbered by in front of me and a car that was on Greenwood Street prior to all this was now stopped behind me (thankfully) - mind you he did have visible and audible cues that I was stopping.

The truckie's still doing this cheesy "thumbs up" so I selected neutral and extended a digit of my own.

What's the bet that if the prick had splattered me he'd try to claim he never saw me?

Regrettably I was so annoyed I failed to get the trucking company's name or the truck's number so I am unable to phone them up and offer to come down an personally explain to the retard why you don't pull out in front of motorcycles that are in the midst of a corner and just expect them to magically stop. Out of respect for my knuckles I would see no need to remove my gloves for the duration of this explanation.

I strongly suspect the truckie had been smoking too much of something. Most likely cock.

This is the second time some truckie has pulled out in front of me from a standing start at that intersection. The last time my wife was driving the car and we had our three kids in the car.

Bloody morons. Seems the only qualifications you need to drive a big rig are an IQ of 3, scruffy clothes and a predilection for Country "music". You certainly don't seem to need any knowledge of the road rules, common courtesy or the ability to think about the consequences of your actions.

They are arrogant bastards that think they can do whatever they like because they're bigger than everyone else. There's a special word for people who think their size and capacity for damage grants carte blanche - "Bully".

I'm generally opposed to retaliatory violence but I'm beginning to understand why that bloke bashed a truckie with a hammer after being bullied off the road by the arrogant in-bred bastard.

A couple more incidents like this and I'm likely to take to carrying a 3/4-sized baseball bat on the bike. Providing the mental bastards don't kill me first.

And that, Fluffy Cat, was a rant.

**SEETHE**

Yeah, I know a lot of KBers drive trucks and are very much "biker aware" so this rant does not intend to besmirch them. However, unless their rigs have large KB stickers on them, I'm not likely to recognise them as fellow bikers on the road and I am going to act as if they are brain-damaged thugs trying to kill me.

[Waylander]

Oddly, I read all that and all I can think is, You have a bike now?

When did that happen?!?!

Anywa... Sorry to hear about that shit mate. Might be small bike they ignore. Get a big cruiser and wear lots of black they tend to notice you, or so has been my experiance.

[Wolf]

Oddly, I read all that and all I can think is, You have a bike now?

When did that happen?!?!

Anywa... Sorry to hear about that shit mate. Might be small bike they ignore. Get a big cruiser and wear lots of black they tend to notice you, or so has been my experiance.
Mate, I already wear black and since I'm on a Road-Trail if I pulled up alongside you on your cruiser I'd tower over you, despite you being a long lean streak of weasel piss and me being a card-carrying short-arse.

Bastidge wasn't ignoring me, he was looking directly at me with his thumb up like "It's cool, bro, I'll just pull 18 squillion tons of retard-mobile out in front of you, no probs, eh?"

As to when "it" happened: Looketh here. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=641998#post641998)

[Waylander]

Ah, well the difference of you on your bike and me on mine is you don't look like a Filthy-Few member lol.

And congrats. Maybe should get over that way for Carver's ride, if so you'll have to come and Ando if he gets his fixed.

[Hitcher]

Whoever named the suburbs of Hamilton? That's what I want to know.

[Macktheknife]

Damn good save there Wolf, glad to hear you are in fine form too! lol. I dont recommend the hammer or the bat though, you can buy some excellent 'tools' at super-cheap etc that no-one will ask why you are carrying. If you should 'accidently drop' one into a truckies side window, "sorry didnt see you" seems to work for everyone else. lol
Ride safe mate

[Wolf]

Whoever named the suburbs of Hamilton? That's what I want to know.
DINSDALE! DIIINSSDAAALE!
- Spiny Norman.

[TerminalAddict]

that's gotta be one of the worst round abouts in hailton I reckon

[Wolf]

that's gotta be one of the worst round abouts in hailton I reckon
You won't get any argument from me. When I was walking to and from work it was a bitch to get across there.

K-Drive is one of our busiest roads and K-Drive/Greenwood Street is a major route for trucks. Killarney road is heavily industrial between the roundabout and the lake and densely populated up to Dinsdale - all in all, it's a hive of activity at that hub.

And the insane things I've seen trucks do down Greenwood/Kahikatea make your hair turn white. Running lights at speed, exceeding the speed limit, the incidents at the roundabout.

There's a perfectly servicable railway line less than a kilometre closer to the lake, we don't need the trucks.

Every town in NZ should have rail access and a shipping yard. All large consignments should be freighted by rail from town to town to be split up and delivered to the places in town they need to be by courier van or small lorry.

Then we can get rid of the ugly diesel-fume-belching rigs - preferably shove them up their drivers arses.

If it needs more than 4 wheels, it shouldn't be allowed on the road (and as a die-hard biker I'm being extremely magnanimous in acknowledging that there's some need for four-wheelers)

[bobsmith]

Here is an excellent article you should read:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/motorcycle_firearms.htm

You should get a walking stick and mount it on the bike like on "house", make it a metal one with weight at the tip for the extra Ooomph

[sunhuntin]

gotta hate tossers like that...specially since he was looking right at you, as you know. lucky you stopped ok and kept her upright. didnt have a yak to any passersby who mayve got the name for you?

honestly, ive had nothing but good experiences wih trucks, but reading threads like this remind me some are tossers and to always be wary. i hate being inbetween two of them, and like to at least have a car between me and them.

ride safe

[bobsmith]

Last night I had an idiot do a U-turn right in front of me without indicating.... Now I've had that done to me before but.... This guy didn't even have lights on!!!!! (it was dark around 9.30pm)... Idiots everywhere......

[RT527]

Bloody morons. Seems the only qualifications you need to drive a big rig are an IQ of 3, scruffy clothes and a predilection for Country "music". You certainly don't seem to need any knowledge of the road rules, common courtesy or the ability to think about the consequences of your actions.

Ok bud I agree that this guy was a moron, but if you gonna class all us truck drivers as the same , then you`d better think a little differently.
I`m sorry that this retard hurt your feelings, and am aware that he could have hurt a lot more than feelings!!!.

I`ve learnt to accept the Idiots that pull out in front of me (bikes included) and then expect me to stop as the norm .

If i was to stress then i`d be ded from said stress!.

Well done on the save tho.

And if I`m ever down that way and i see you on said roundabout , I`ll get the stop go signs out and stop traffic just for you then I`ll sit at the roundabout for about 45 mins while waiting for a slot just so i dont upset another of you sensitive types down their.
Hey anyways what happened to you is just one of many things that needs a clean up, that and speed , dont know why so many truckies insist on going everywhere on the speed limiter usually around 105-110 average kmph.

Am just a little upset tho at you`re reference to ALL truckies being the same !!!

[Ixion]

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Every town in NZ should have rail access and a shipping yard. All large consignments should be freighted by rail from town to town to be split up and delivered to the places in town they need to be by courier van or small lorry.
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They did. They were . That's why so many small towns have a rail line right down the middle of the main street. Until a market-forces government decided to hand the whole deal over to private exploitation

[Wolf]

Quote:

Bloody morons. Seems the only qualifications you need to drive a big rig are an IQ of 3, scruffy clothes and a predilection for Country "music". You certainly don't seem to need any knowledge of the road rules, common courtesy or the ability to think about the consequences of your actions.

Ok bud I agree that this guy was a moron, but if you gonna class all us truck drivers as the same , then you`d better think a little differently.
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Am just a little upset tho at you`re reference to ALL truckies being the same !!!
You seem to have missed some important words in the text you quoted so I have highlighted them.

You also may have missed this, being so upset that I had tarred all truckies with the same brush:



Yeah, I know a lot of KBers drive trucks and are very much "biker aware" so this rant does not intend to besmirch them.


And if I`m ever down that way and i see you on said roundabout , I`ll get the stop go signs out and stop traffic just for you then I`ll sit at the roundabout for about 45 mins while waiting for a slot just so i dont upset another of you sensitive types down their.
Just stay stopped like that plonker should have and that will be sufficient. After nearly 25 years' experience on motorcycles I'm capable of riding through a roundabout and signalling my intent to leave. It's only when I have to straighten the bike on a short curved road and stop within the constraints of wherever I happen to be pointed at the time that things get hairy.

It's not as if he couldn't stop in time when approaching the roundabout. He was already stopped, saw I was on the roundabout and decided to deliberately pull out anyway because "fuck it, I'm in a truck and I outweigh everything else on the road. They can't harm me." I'm quite serious about wanting to give him a demonstration that I can cause him personal damage.

Plenty of people turn off onto K Drive to stop traffic and cover his entry onto the roundabout in a safe fashion. I had to stop for three cars coming from my right and going down K-drive to my left before I could move. He could have gone while they were blocking me rather than waiting for me to get out on the roundabout. Even at the limbering snail's pace of his piece of shit diesel wankmobile he could have been almost off the roundabout by the time I was free to go. It's his own fault he was too busy playing with himself to take advantage of the opportunity.

His lack of patience after he missed his chance is his issue, he chose to try to make it my problem by directly threatening my life - something about which I must admit I am "sensitive about".

You seem to be sensitive about people getting pissed off with truckies.

The retard that directly threatened the lives of my kids lost his job because my wife complained to the company and it appears that he already had a record of dangerous driving complaints. Seems the warnings he had already received were insufficient to drive basic road safety concepts into his thick skull. I hope the dole queue has a more profound effect.

[Wolf]

Here is an excellent article you should read:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/motorcycle_firearms.htm

You should get a walking stick and mount it on the bike like on "house", make it a metal one with weight at the tip for the extra Ooomph
I'm familiar with Chuck Hawks - read his treatises on both motorcycles and firearms and even exchanged emails with him on his assertion that .243 should be the standard military calibre rather than the toy .223 or the heavy, expensive 7.62mm.

What I'd like is a forward-facing fixed paintball gun loaded with pellets containing bright fluoro pink automotive enamel to tag vehicles that pull out in front of me. Proof positive that the bastard's car/truck was where it shouldn't be and once the word gets 'round other road users can note the bright pink tag marks and have fair warning the driver's a tosser.

I get really annoyed with Hamilton drivers and roundabouts - we've got so many of them and have had them for a long time yet so many people do not know how to use them. Driving straight through without looking, checking the wrong direction before proceding, not indicating, all manner of insanity.

You'd think, since in Hamilton you can scarcely visit your neighbour without going through a roundabout, people would have sussed it out by now.

[Karma]

despite you being a long lean streak of weasel piss

Huh? :gob:

[RT527]

You seem to be sensitive about people getting pissed off with truckies.
Nope...more pissed off with the truckies who cause people to have a go at us.......one point I`d like to make .....even with my I.Q of 5.5 and my cloths which incidently only have 3 holes today, is that I dont tar all bike riders with the same brush if i see one of them doing a hairbrained thing.just think you could have ranted at just him not all of us, and yeah Sorry i didn`t see the bit about
Originally Posted by Wolf
Yeah, I know a lot of KBers drive trucks and are very much "biker aware" so this rant does not intend to besmirch them.
Actually i get real pissed at the drivers, cars trucks bikes busses etc etc that drive into a roundabout as if their life depended on them getting onto it first,if every one slowed down a little if they see a bigger vehicle or someone having trouble getting onto the roundabout and let them out then there wouldnt be a problem.
I aint perfect and I make mistakes, we all do!.

[Wolf]

.....even with my I.Q of 5.5 and my cloths which incidently only have 3 holes today,
My comment was on what I perceived the bottom entry criteria to be - based on those I had encountered doing hair-brained manouevres. Nowhere in my rant did I state that all truckies have an IQ of 3, wear scruffy clothes or listen to Country.

Please re-read my original rant and you will see that I was referring to specific truckies - those two and a few other arrogant sons of bitches (like the one who shot the Greenwood St/Massey St lights in excess of 60km/h and sped by us (parked at said red lights) close enough to shake the car), not all truckies.

There are, as you have acknowledged, arrogant truckies who use the fact they are in something huge to do what they please, as there are arrogant or inorant car drivers and bikers. I've known more than a few "squids" in my time ("Temporary New Zealanders" dad used to call them) and like you I am angered by their stupidity and carelessness.

Dad and mum both drove trucks, taxis, buses and motorcycles so I figure I have more of an idea of most what courteous drivers/riders should behave like.

Had it been a car that had pulled the same manouevre I would have still been pissed off - even though the car is less of a threat and would not have taken so long to get through. Some bloody squid pulling a similar boneheaded manouevre would have had me really fucked off because he should know better.

Had the truck commenced his manouevre before I started onto the roundabout while I was still blocked by cars and was not yet fully clear of my route out of the roundabout by the time I made my move I would have noted his presence, made allowances for the physics of getting a large rig off the line and adjusted my speed so that he would be clear by the time I came to turn off. it was the fact that he waited until there was traffic coming and then started, forcing me to stop suddenly that annoyed me.

He was indeed scruffy - I didn't get the truck details, but I have his image etched on my mind as his driver's door came out into the lane into my path - and I did not see any evidence of even basic intellect in his driving.

The Country music I surmised based on other truckies I've known who're big on checked cotton shirts and baseball caps.

[RT527]

my comment was aimed more at dry humour not at all serious......Ya know-Tounge in cheek.

[Squeak the Rat]

That twirly wirly roundabouty thing seems to be quite dangerous for you.

I've heard a rumour that the cops target black spots for traffic violations to prevent further accidents - not for revenue gathering at all apparently.

Write the coppas a letter, see if they come and stake it out one morning, then bait people to pull out in front of you by riding your bike around the roundabout.



Bloody truckies on party pills! (p/t)

[Lias]

Last night I took my old bike (lil Gn250) out for only my second ride since my big bin. I was driving like a total nana (as you do after a bin) and I still nearly got taken out at this roundabout.

Was heading south into the round about then right onto Killarney. There was a northbound car sitting waiting for me to go past as I had right of way, when some fuckhead boy racer came flying north at 90-100k, past the other stationary car and through the round about about 4 feet in front of me. I planted foot on the brakes (not fun to do when you have a sore ankle), and then sat in the middle of the roundabout for a good 10 seconds thinking "holy fuck I'm alive" before trundling off home, only shaking ever so slightly.

[Wolf]

That twirly wirly roundabouty thing seems to be quite dangerous for you.
Face it, roundabouts and Hamiltonians don't mix. They chose the wrong town to populate with roundabouts given the distressingly high percentage of the population who lack the intellect to use them.

Rip out that roundabout and the seriously fucked-up one at Dinsdale and replace 'em with traffic lights - it's obvious that too much of Hamilton's population is incapable of making rational decisions and needs to be told what to do at every intersection.

It's almost at the point that when I see a person signal correctly and use the roundabout properly I nearly fall off the bike in sheer shock at the novelty of it. I certainly feel like going and having a lie-down to compose myself and contemplate the sheer "alieness" of it.