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ManDownUnder

16th June 2006, 11:45

compare www.kellylane.co.nz/home.htm (http://www.kellylane.co.nz/home.htm)

with www.rainreviva.com.au (http://www.rainreviva.com.au)

Different font - it's buried in there somewhere and I want it. I guess it's in a style sheet.

How do I find out what font the .com.au site is using?
How/where do I install it
How do I make it active (default) on my kellylane pages?

Ta muchly
MDU

skelstar

16th June 2006, 11:51

Probably this:
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;

You using firefox? If not do so and ill tell ya the extenson to use thats VERY useful for web devs.

skelstar

16th June 2006, 11:52

More:
have this line for your default css file as the 'body {' definition..

A good place to learn about css is at www.w3schools.com
Its well worth it.

TerminalAddict

16th June 2006, 11:55

http://www.rainreviva.com.au/stylesheet/common.css
fonts defined in body {}

skelstar

16th June 2006, 11:56

Yeah, term explained it better than I did.:)

sAsLEX

16th June 2006, 11:59

Yeah, term explained it better than I did.:)

Yeah I had a look the same way I stole the KB stylesheet for an assignment at uni by viewing the page source, but missed it, wouldnt it be better to have it thier way and linked to a site instead of having it on every page?

skelstar

16th June 2006, 12:02

Linking is much better. Using:
< link href="home.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" >
Line in the header section.

note: syntax not quite right to get to display in thread.

TerminalAddict

16th June 2006, 12:16

skelstar is right linking is better than including

if it fucks up in different browser you'll have to use @import instead

(fucking IE)

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 12:28

Linking is much better. Using:
< link href="home.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" >
Line in the header section.

note: syntax not quite right to get to display in thread.

I'm not sure if I should be concerned by knowing exactly what all that means.

Leather pen holder anyone?

Mixing css with flash on this one
http://www.radiusresidential.co.nz/rrclnewsite/facilities.html
(only half built)

TerminalAddict

16th June 2006, 12:34

Leather pen holder anyone?

I get the feeling you're insulting my big forehead, and coke bottle style glasses ??

dadadaaaa
*goes off singing the extraordinary's theme song*

Lazy7

16th June 2006, 12:37

i was going to say. but looks like you guys got this covered.

lots of I.T geeks on motorcycles huh...

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 12:41

I get the feeling you're insulting my big forehead, and coke bottle style glasses ??

dadadaaaa
*goes off singing the extraordinary's theme song*

I still haven't got my head aroud defining table styles and backgrounds etc in CSS yet.

Maybe then.

WRT

16th June 2006, 13:04

Just been looking round that site - what happens if your tank runs dry? It mentions that it shuts down the pump if there is no water coming through to it, but then you got no toilets . . .

skelstar

16th June 2006, 13:08

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 13:20

Nice looking site BD. Always wanted to use flash more but some of my mates are principled anti-flash nazis and refuse to use my site. Besides its tricky having html-php-mysql-flash behaving (well it is for me as I dont kow how to do it).

Thanks - I've read all the 'flash is evil' stuff - and i just don't buy it.

But I do think rrcl site is a bit fat at the mo - my process is to give it all the bells and whistles then subjectively subtract.

It is tough to get the hang of flash at first - but when the penny drops - it's fun in a geeky kinda way.

My favourite is still the front page at www.motomail.co.nz - whose online shop is done and live very shortly

skelstar

16th June 2006, 13:46

I love this type of flash page: http://www.sabotaz.com/
Would love to have it for my rugby betting site, but tricky re: database integration.

Filterer

16th June 2006, 14:11

If you want your site at http://www.kellylane.co.nz/home.htm to be the exactly the same style then you have two options

1) Go to

and then go file, save page as and save the file as common.css in the folder sylesheet all in the folder that is the root of your webserver

or

2) if you want to steal their bandwidth open up the source code of the webpage and replace the line

<link href="stylesheet/common.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
with

<link href="http://www.rainreviva.com.au/stylesheet/common.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">

I think thats what you were trying to get at in your original post anyway, hope that helps

ManDownUnder

16th June 2006, 14:34

Just been looking round that site - what happens if your tank runs dry? It mentions that it shuts down the pump if there is no water coming through to it, but then you got no toilets . . .

LOL - so your suggestion is to keep pumping air to the toilets?

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 14:36

I love this type of flash page: http://www.sabotaz.com/
Would love to have it for my rugby betting site, but tricky re: database integration.

Yep - brochures and eye candy only - which is my business. cool stuff that page too aye

ManDownUnder

16th June 2006, 14:39

Guys - awesome awesome awesome!

Done and lookin' a whole heap better! Hee Haa. Happy camper at this end.
MDU

WRT

16th June 2006, 15:05

LOL - so your suggestion is to keep pumping air to the toilets?

Water, air, whatever - just keep pumping, so I can keep dumping!

Was more asking if it will switch over to mains water if you run the tank dry? Or do you have to put up with toilets that wont flush during summer?

BTW - I realise that you dont want the pump to keep going if its running dry. I grew up on an island where you had to make your own electricity and find your own water, so have a better understanding than most about alternative household systems.

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 15:09

. I grew up on an island where you had to make your own electricity and find your own water, so have a better understanding than most about alternative household systems.

Sounds like Auckland.

Seriously - Which one?

ManDownUnder

16th June 2006, 15:14

Water, air, whatever - just keep pumping, so I can keep dumping!

Was more asking if it will switch over to mains water if you run the tank dry? Or do you have to put up with toilets that wont flush during summer?

All good.

If mains water is available there is a thing called a "Water Switch" which does exactly as the name suggests, switches the souce of the water from the tank (running low) to street water... available 24x7, except in part of Auckland... espcially during power outages.

Anyone not on town supply will tell you it's nice to have a stream and bucket handy during summer. If the tank is dry there's nothing to remove those dumpies and you have to ring for the water truck... which is almost always busy with other people because (it seems) everyone uses the toilet during Summer...

WRT

16th June 2006, 15:33

Seriously - Which one?

Great Barrier Island. My mother still lives there, she has a few modern conveniences like a generator and a tv but doesnt use them often. A highly religious woman, she spends most evenings singing hymms and playing the piano by candle light, with just a black cat and a wetback wood stove for company. Seriously.

If mains water is available there is a thing called a "Water Switch" which does exactly as the name suggests, switches the souce of the water from the tank (running low) to street water.

That's what I was wondering. Just couldnt find mention of it anywhere on the website.

Anyone not on town supply will tell you it's nice to have a stream and bucket handy during summer.

We grew up rough - if you had a bucket and a stream, why would you need a toilet?

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 16:38

Great Barrier Island. My mother still lives there, she has a few modern conveniences like a generator and a tv but doesnt use them often. A highly religious woman, she spends most evenings singing hymms and playing the piano by candle light, with just a black cat and a wetback wood stove for company. Seriously.

Is she happy?

WRT

16th June 2006, 16:56

Is she happy?

Life is a struggle for her there, nothing is easy for anyone on the island - that's part of the attraction for the dedicated Barrierite however. I would have to say that Mum's choice in religious outlook doesnt aid her struggle. But she draws a strength from it that suits her lifestyle choice and she has a level of contentment that most people living in suburbia could only hope to attain.

Is she happy? Sometimes, yes. Life is tough for her, she has to work so very hard for day to day things that most take for granted, but I believe that she draws pleasure from that. Perhaps it is a form of penance? A show of worship? I'm not sure, but I know that it is the way she chooses to live her life (and she does have other choices available to her) and as her son its my duty to support her in that the best I can.

BTW - that simple question you posed has been the hardest for me to answer in all my time on KB.

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 18:03

good answer but.

Every time the biorythms catch up with me or the co-pilot it's 'Motueka and watch the fuckin' tide come in',

to paraphrase our occasional hankering for a simpler life. i don't know that it would make me as happy as the constantly looming deadlines, but stable full of nice bikes I enjoy now.

Maybe I just watched too many episodes of Grizzly Adams!

ManDownUnder

20th June 2006, 10:24

ok - two more questions

Question 1===========
http://www.kellylane.co.nz/how_it_works.htm has a link through to the parent site for a flash object.

http://www.rainreviva.com.au/how_it_works.asp serves up the image (and subsequent demo) fine... but I seems to have dropped or broken something... yet again.

Here's what I believe to be the offending code

<a name="animation"></a>
<div align="center">
<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,29,0" width="450" height="450">
<param name="movie" value="flash/how_it_works.swf">
<param name="quality" value="high">
<embed src="flash/how_it_works.swf" quality="high" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="450">
</embed>
</object>
</div>]

Question 2===========
Is there standard code (PHP or Java - whatever fits best on that page) that'll do the equivalent of the "print this page" function at the bottom of each page? Or am I best to just delete that function off there?

Cheers and beers!
MDU

TerminalAddict

20th June 2006, 10:34

printing:

<a href="javascript:print()">Print</a>

difference between sites:
kellylane doesn't seem to be loading the flash object ???

TerminalAddict

20th June 2006, 10:36

flash/how_it_works.swf may be loading an external flash movie.
Common technique to stop people stealing flash movies :)

skelstar

20th June 2006, 10:37

there are \" codes all the way through that quoted html text. The '\' character causes the browser (?) to ignore the character after it. In this case the '"' character. Perhaps its this site thats putting those '\' characters in maybe?

Cant remember how to print. Try having a look through www.w3schools.org

skelstar

20th June 2006, 10:38

Ah...it seems its this site doing the '\"' thing.

ManDownUnder

20th June 2006, 11:03

flash/how_it_works.swf may be loading an external flash movie.
Common technique to stop people stealing flash movies :)

ok - #1 - print problem solved... fucken awesome!

#2.... the flash objkect not loading (per the quote above) - I errr don't understand what you mean.

Do I need to ask the guys that currently own that movie for a copy, then host it locally? Or could I ask them to allow me to externally load it?

What do I want/ask for?

Cheers all.
MDU