Motomail Store Online [Archive]

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 17:13

Just had a call from Chris.

www.motoretail.co.nz

is live and running

I'll update the links so you can get to it from motomail.co.nz tonight

but for now - if you want a bit of a shop use the direct link.

Fabuloso and more to come over the next few days.

Kendog

16th June 2006, 17:39

Fantastic. Awesome. Wicked. About time. Yeah.

cowpoos

16th June 2006, 17:48

they farkin expensive!!!!

nice site though!

The_Dover

16th June 2006, 17:54

They wont deliver to the 'rapa Poo's and they don't barter for livestock either.

imdying

16th June 2006, 18:08

Awesome... and they said it couldn't be done :)

Motig

16th June 2006, 19:21

Yahoooo!!!!! Ive been waiting months,years for this to finally happen. Makes things a lot easier for those of us who are non city dwellers but live in the snowy wonderland of the nearly deep south:doobey: . Mind you I do miss the tactile feel of a good pussylogue.:blip:

Ixion

16th June 2006, 19:40

Excellent. I've been waiting for that. Well done all round. Jolly good.

But there's still lots of stuff that isn't there. Hopefully coming soon?
And where's the two smoker oil? The only ones listed say "for intown or off road". My two smokers are neither.

Motig

16th June 2006, 19:52

Jesus ! Just had a look and the helmet I was planing to get next summer is a $100 dearer than the RRP in the mags. The dollar must have struck already.
I agree there must still be quite a bit of stuff to go on going from what the catalogue used to have in it. I hope so anyway.

Zapf

16th June 2006, 20:04

may I suggest they need to improve the quality of the "large images" of the product. Specially in the clothing section.

anyway...

"D" FZ1

16th June 2006, 20:12

Congrats Chris & Team. Looking GOOD :yes:

WINJA

16th June 2006, 20:16

that site has taken a hell of a long time getting here and its sucks , poorly laid out and poor quality large images

TerminalAddict

16th June 2006, 20:22

yay ! shopping

Smokin

16th June 2006, 20:22

Is the $20 South Island freight charge standard for all items?
It would be ok for a one piece suit but a bit over the top for a visor or gloves.

Badcat

16th June 2006, 20:28

welcome to 1998 motomail.

....oh shit! it's 2006.

crashe

16th June 2006, 20:36

Homepage too big for my screen......
Like I have to use the curser to go right over to the right of the page by about 2 inches....

It cant be cause I have a 14 inch monitor... cos it dont happen on other homepages.. so can it please be made smaller...

Thank you

Genesismatrix

16th June 2006, 21:08

Great to see a good online selection of riding gear betting then pouring through peoples overpriced seccond hand gear on trademe.

Good Site

Quasievil

16th June 2006, 21:19

WOW 1.1 mm Jacket for only $549.00,, fark any thinner might as well use paper.

DougB

16th June 2006, 22:31

What use is this new site. I e-mailed them about a helmet last week and have had no reply.

Darkman

16th June 2006, 22:39

What use is this new site. I e-mailed them about a helmet last week and have had no reply.

and the question is ...do they have the helmet or are you gonna have to wait 8 weeks for it. They are advertising the helmet I want, but shoei NZ is only bringing the medium it in the end of next month..and its more expensive than what I'm paying for it.

WINJA

16th June 2006, 22:50

welcome to 1998 motomail.

....oh shit! it's 2006.
I THINK IT WAS 98 WHEN THEY HAD A LINK TO THE SITE AND IT SAID UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR 8 YEARS OR SO

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 23:34

Some of you people are like my mother. You can complain about anything.

Ixion

16th June 2006, 23:36

Yith. I took a course in that.Now whaddabart me two stroke oil.

Big Dave

16th June 2006, 23:39

Yith. I took a course in that.Now whaddabart me two stroke oil.

Mr Ixion and the other unanswered email helmet query - if you PM me the relevant info i will see to it personally.

The plugs, oils and other consumables will be 'coming shortly' is my understanding.

Gremlin

17th June 2006, 00:17

I THINK IT WAS 98 WHEN THEY HAD A LINK TO THE SITE AND IT SAID UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR 8 YEARS OR SO

The plugs, oils and other consumables will be 'coming shortly' is my understanding.
sooooo..... 8 years or so?? :killingme

meh, I still get to go to the shop, nothing beats browsing, touching, trying on etc.

good on em for going where no-one has gone before tho, I hope it works for them

Big Dave

17th June 2006, 00:38

sooooo..... 8 years or so?? :killingme

meh, I still get to go to the shop, nothing beats browsing, touching, trying on etc.

good on em for going where no-one has gone before tho, I hope it works for them

Yeah- me too.

You won't find better bikers or people than Chris and Mick - i'd much rather go there and shoot the breeze - as I do often, than point and click.

No such luxury for non dorklanders and the agorophobic.

Badcat

17th June 2006, 07:39

Some of you people are like my mother. You can complain about anything.

sorry dave, but it's incomplete, ugly and years late.
you'd think a mature player with mail order at the core of it's business model would have been running a full web catalogue for years.
so please excuse us if this attempt doesn't get a standing ovation.

ken

Lazy7

17th June 2006, 09:00

been there and had a look around. the shop is great.

and dont give them too much of a hard time about the online stuff - looks like they are using a pre-packaged system. they are always kinda lame.

WINJA

17th June 2006, 11:19

sooooo..... 8 years or so?? :killingme

meh, I still get to go to the shop, nothing beats browsing, touching, trying on etc.

good on em for going where no-one has gone before tho, I hope it works for them
SAME, I LIKE TRYING ON THE LEATHERS WITHOUT WEARING MY UNDIES,NOTHING LIKE PREMIUM DRUM DYED LEATHER AGAINST THE OLD FELLA

Big Dave

17th June 2006, 11:20

sorry dave, but it's incomplete, ugly and years late.
you'd think a mature player with mail order at the core of it's business model would have been running a full web catalogue for years.
so please excuse us if this attempt doesn't get a standing ovation.

ken

Bull - see my response to winja

WINJA

17th June 2006, 11:28

Bullshit - for the size of the business and the budget they have - It's fucking great.
THEY STOPPED SENDING CATALOGUES YEARS B4 THIS SITE WAS UP AND RUNNING AND THE CATALOGUE WAS NICE TO LOOK AT ,THEY SHOULDA STUCK TO THE CATALOGUE ,I KNOW SOMEPEOPLE OUTA TOWN WHO WILL LOOK AT A CATALOGUE BUT NEVER EVER LOOK AT THE NET , BET THEY SAVED LOTS NOT PRINTING THE CATALOGUE AND THEY SHOULDA PUT THAT MONEY INTO THE SITE, YOU KNOW I LIKE THE MOTOMAIL GUYS SO DONT TAKE THESE COMMENTS THE WRONG WAY

Big Dave

17th June 2006, 11:44

[QUOTE=WINJA]

Fair enough.

My take.

The are many, many internet retail disaster stories for every happy one.
Particularly in limited interest fields like motorcycling.

Rightsizing and not creating a potentially bankrupting black hole of constant upkeep costs is more important than the bells and whistles of the site. (a more complete inventory follows)

What you see there is an expenditure that will keep a growing business solvent and provide a service that some customers have requested.

I also quite like the design and functionality. The bling is on the front end.

so yeah - it's not flyingpig.co.nz, but look where that is now.

This might just work. I hope so because I have some best friends behind the counter.

Badcat

17th June 2006, 11:52

Bullshit - for the size of the business and the budget they have - It's fucking great.
Bullshit?
it's average at best.
if that's your idea of a great online catalogue, i seriously suggest you start browsing some others.
for someone like motomail, they should have years of experience in this, hence my 1998 comment.
i know they are a customer of yours dave, i'm not attacking you.

ken

Ixion

17th June 2006, 11:54

Well, it is certainly a major advance over what is available from any other NZ bike shop.

As to the dropping of the cataglog, hard copy catalogs are still important if your target market is old people or other non Web savvy demographics.

But, a bike shops market is bikers. And surely of all sectors of society bikers might be expected to be among the most web aware? So I think there would be few who would lament the passing of the hard copy, provided the web site is up to scratch (and up to date).

I think it's good - or will be once everything else is there

Big Dave

17th June 2006, 12:00

Bullshit?
it's average at best.
if that's your idea of a great online catalogue, i seriously suggest you start browsing some others.
for someone like motomail, they should have years of experience in this, hence my 1998 comment.
i know they are a customer of yours dave, i'm not attacking you.

ken

SORRY - that read much harsher than I meant it to be (there was no scowley face) - edited - see response to winja.

Ixion

17th June 2006, 12:02

I've just come up a wonderful new marketing tool. The catablog. An interactive blog and catalog combined!

Big Dave

17th June 2006, 12:10

I've just come up a wonderful new marketing tool. The catablog. An interactive blog and catalog combined!

Not bad. I looked down that path with product testing stuff. Hard yards, the widget.

Squeak the Rat

17th June 2006, 12:13

Big Dave

17th June 2006, 12:23

So what if it aint perfect - websites aren't cheap and I suspect that Motomail are like most other bike related businesses in that they don't make extortionate profits. Sod it, it's shed loads better than what we had.

Re the 1998 thing, I thought ownership changed a couple of years ago? So it's really only been a couple of years.... :)

[Edit:] maybe I'm easy to please but i like the site! Good work....

Nice work squeaky.
Chris Hyland took over from Phil Scott 3 years ago. Respect to both of them, but it's now a completely different business, stock, locations, staff, personality.

The makings for the cafe are all done too - soon us arklanders can head to motomail for a latte as well - mmmmmmmm chocolate sprinkles!!!! - what web?

I know where my ride meet up point will be.

WINJA

17th June 2006, 12:32

Finn

17th June 2006, 12:35

I've been banned from Motormail. That girl that I helped out on Ponsonby Rd after her spill took exception to some of my humourous comments about the incident. She now works there and wants to bash me.

However, now they are online I can safely purchase my goods without risk of grievous bodily harm.

SwanTiger

17th June 2006, 13:09

Big Dave

17th June 2006, 13:11

Sounds like you need a Body Guard. PM Me.

Can the Brutale be my work vehicle?

He needs a body 'double'.

Big Dave

17th June 2006, 13:34

just bring back my catalogue in the old book format please , it had pride of place next to the pornos in my toilet since 1990ish, ive collected loads of them , sometimes the tried and true old fashion stuff like books/mags just work well

Aye - Still an ad in Kiwi Rider every month :blip:

Just keep the web site with the e-porn links! The glowing screen helps as you get blinder too.

Ixion

17th June 2006, 13:36

just bring back my catalogue in the old book format please , it had pride of place next to the pornos in my toilet since 1990ish, ive collected loads of them , sometimes the tried and true old fashion stuff like books/mags just work well

So where's the problem. Do what everyone else does, take the laptop , or iPod, into the toilet. Unlimited pron AND web catalog.

Pixie

17th June 2006, 17:13

Well,actually,they didn't poineer on-line shopping for bike stuff in NZ.
www.bikesport.co.nz
Have been on-line for over a year

btw they've moved into their big,new premises in Helensville today

imdying

17th June 2006, 17:52

Wow, lotta angst against what is arguably the best attempt at online motorcycle accessory shopping in NZ.

Websites are expensive... between building the database, building the web front end, and a decent administration section that allows for updating the catalogue with ease, credit card payment system, testing, it'd take me about 200-300 hours to build something like that from scratch. That's $16-24k, a big investment for any small business.

The screen size thing, it does appear to be built to a funny width, and even today it's bit off not to cater for an 800x600 screen. Having said that, 800x600 is horrible and you should upgrade asap.

The images... bit of a pet hate of mine is large pictures that in fact are not. The large pictures aren't all perfect, but they're not too bad. The owners will have to pay for the bandwidth, so the quality of those pictures is always a tradeoff... I've seen worse (much much worse).Bikesport.co.nz is missing pictures in placs, and that's even worse imho.

The layout isn't total arse, but browsing for categories isn't as easy as it could be. Text is still the win in many cases.

Catalogue contents, I think it's fair to assume that it's a work in progress, and there's more to come.

Just my opinion of course.

WINJA

17th June 2006, 19:28

Well,actually,they didn't poineer on-line shopping for bike stuff in NZ.
www.bikesport.co.nz
Have been on-line for over a year

btw they've moved into their big,new premises in Helensville today
CLICK ON PARTS AND ACCESORIES, NOTHING THERE WASTE OF TIME AS USUAL

Dooly

17th June 2006, 22:42

Just ordered a few things off the Motomail site, I'll give them a go.

Motu

17th June 2006, 23:09

www.dirtbike.co.nz http://www.dirtbike.co.nz/default.asp?pageid=1

has been online for much longer than a year,a bloody good site,heaps of products,reward points and quick delivery - they have given me great service....but sometimes I like to look at things in the flesh.The Motomail site looks good,maybe better than their new store because I've never seen it.What a dumb move - it takes more than a bike shop to get me into the city centre....I've only been up College Hill once since they moved and didn't see it.That area is not on my to do list ever.But I still go to the old shop,plenty of bargins there....that always gets me back.

Big Dave

18th June 2006, 01:19

I've only been up College Hill once since they moved and didn't see it.That area is not on my to do list ever.But I still go to the old shop,plenty of bargins there....that always gets me back.

Not only are you dirty - but you are cheap.
If you were a chic I'd ask you out.

Ixion

18th June 2006, 11:44

I'm even dirtier than he is. And I'm cheaper. He goes to the Motomail outlet store looking for bargains. Spendthrift. Wanton extravagance. I just make the previous bargains last a bit longer. You could ask me out .

Big Dave

18th June 2006, 11:46

Dooly

21st June 2006, 11:50

Kudos to Motomail.

First time I've ordered online bike stuff.
And since I'm a returning road rider after 6 years, I needed all kinds of bits and pieces, gloves/jacket/bike stuff etc.
Ordered some things on Sunday night, Monday, they all arrived today, in good order.
A jacket I ordered was'nt in stock so they offered a refund/another jacket/or wait a week or so till stocks arrived.
I'll wait the week as I'm not medically cleared for the bike yet for 3 more months, so no big deal.
Might just have to try a quick blast up the road this weekend maybe.

Well done MM, I'll be back!:first:

Devil

21st June 2006, 11:58

Websites are expensive... between building the database, building the web front end, and a decent administration section that allows for updating the catalogue with ease, credit card payment system, testing, it'd take me about 200-300 hours to build something like that from scratch. That's $16-24k, a big investment for any small business.

Thats why you buy a pre-built "e-commerce" site and teach your staff-plebs how to upload items and images.

imdying

21st June 2006, 12:12

Thats why you buy a pre-built "e-commerce" site and teach your staff-plebs how to upload items and images.They're often a less than ideal fit for the business. Most of those require (including CSS and design/image work) about a weeks effort minimum to bring them up to scratch before the staff could maintain them, which is still a few thousand dollars.

WickedOne

21st June 2006, 12:39

Big-ups to Motomail.

sAsLEX

21st June 2006, 13:26

holy shit fast service from a NZ company I must be dreaming!

Used it again today to have a looksee at some things I need/want, mainly a small hard tankbag to put the celly wallet and maybe a small jacket in, was expecting around 50-60 dollars, but $100 thats a bit rich, might have to go see whats at the outlet store