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sunhuntin
16th June 2006, 19:36
a photo on tardme....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Antiques-collectables/New-Zealand-Maori/photos/a-59854161/p-22835493.htm

Ixion
16th June 2006, 19:42
Nope.Before my time .Belt drive - must be a late model Harley or Buell, right.

crashe
16th June 2006, 19:43
Found a pic of it in my Classic British Bike book by Andrew kemp and Mirco De Cet
on the Introduction page...

I will look further in the book if I find out what it is.


Found it on page 34

Truimph 3 1/2 hp 1913

YEARS OF PRODUCTION 1906 - 1914
Engine type: single-cylinder side-valve four stroke

Bore and stroke: 85x88mm

Capacity: 499cc

Carburettor: triumph twin-barrel

Wheelbase: 49in

Tyres (front / rear) 2 1/4 x 26in - 2 14x 26in

Top speed: approx 55mph

Weight around 175lb

Nicknamed: 'Trusty Triumph'

cowpoos
16th June 2006, 19:47
looks like an old viller's engine....buggared if I know what type of bike it is...

Scouse
16th June 2006, 19:47
I think its an Indian there is somthing like that at Motomail

Ixion
16th June 2006, 19:57
I think Ms Crashe is right. My money's on Don R's Trusty Triumph, Model A or Model H. Definately Brit and around WW1.

crashe
16th June 2006, 20:02
The other one on page 14

Truimph 3hp (1905)

Year of Production 1905 -1907

Engine type: single cylinder side valve four-stroke

Bore and stroke: 78x76mm

Compression ratio: 4:1

Capacity: 363cc

Transmission: direct belt drive

Tyres: 2x22in both front and rear

Wheelbase:49in

Weight:125lb

Top speed: approx 50mph


PS: This is made a year before the other one.

Mr. Peanut
16th June 2006, 20:10
Compression ratio: 4:1 :gob: Bet that was an easy start....

50 mph for 3hp??

crashe
16th June 2006, 20:14
Both these models that I have mentioned had pedals on the bikes to start them off as well.

pritch
16th June 2006, 20:19
:gob: Bet that was an easy start....

I wouldn't bet on it, the spark plugs may not have been quite what you're used
to these days? Or the petrol?

And if you had to push start it there were only metal roads...

Everything is relative I guess:sherlock:

diggydog
16th June 2006, 20:35
it looks a little like my bike that i ride.

T.W.R
16th June 2006, 21:51
Crashe is on the money :yes: its a Triumph with the Schulte designed sv engine Triumph's 1st factory designed engine after using JAP & Fafnir engines.

Colapop
16th June 2006, 21:58
Woohoo that'd be a bone shaker! Classic piece of workmanship - very nice.

Ixion
16th June 2006, 22:11
:gob: Bet that was an easy start....

50 mph for 3hp??


That's RAC horsepower not brake horse power.

Roughly 2.75 RAC hp = 350 cc (the old two and three quarters)
3.5 RAC hp = 500cc , the three and a halfs

RAC horsepower was for taxation purposes had no correlation to brake horsepower.

sunhuntin
17th June 2006, 17:19
Crashe is on the money :yes: its a Triumph with the Schulte designed sv engine Triumph's 1st factory designed engine after using JAP & Fafnir engines.

i knew someone would know what it is! was thinking, if no one here knows, ill post it overseas and see what they say.

must admit, im surprised its a trumpy!! but then, the ones from 80-odd years ago never look the same as they do now.

Edbear
17th June 2006, 17:26
Everything is relative I guess:sherlock:



At least in theory...:innocent:

onearmedbandit
17th June 2006, 17:32
I wonder where the bike is today? Interesting to think that that would've been an impressive bike for its day, maybe the 'CBR600RR' of it's time.

Maha
17th June 2006, 17:46
earlier models perhaps?

onearmedbandit
17th June 2006, 18:26
earlier models perhaps?

See post #3.

T.W.R
17th June 2006, 18:36
i knew someone would know what it is! was thinking, if no one here knows, ill post it overseas and see what they say.

must admit, im surprised its a trumpy!! but then, the ones from 80-odd years ago never look the same as they do now.

Crashe had in the bag :yes: the emblem on the tank is definately the original Triumph logo which was used upto the early 30s. The 'trusty triumph' was the sv engine then became the 'Ricardo' ohv 4v. But the trusty triumph was basically the race replica of the day from successes racing in TT races.

The only disturbing thing though is Triumph (the great english marque) was founded by 2 Germans; Seigfried Bettmann & Maurice Schulte

Ixion
17th June 2006, 18:41
Incidentally, anyone notice the weight? 55kg.

onearmedbandit
17th June 2006, 18:54
The only disturbing thing though is Triumph (the great english marque) was founded by 2 Germans; Seigfried Bettmann & Maurice Schulte

Buwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....wait a second.....buwahahahahahaha!

You are frigging kidding right?? The great Triumph that represents Britains great placing in the motorcycle world has German heritage? Buy with British pride? Sure, they're British now as much as anything, but the company was founded by two Germans. I can understand why I've never heard that before!!