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Lou Girardin
22nd May 2004, 16:29
Has anyone struck problems with gas stations refusing to allow you to fill unless you get off the bike?
It happened to me at BP Birkenhead today. They actually turned the pump off while I was filing up. I even explained how the overflow sustem worked on a bike and that I have been filling vehicles twice as long as the pump jockey has been alive without immolating myself.
Needless to say, they've lost our business.
Is this the nanny state gone mad?
riffer
22nd May 2004, 16:34
Yes - the Shell of Featherston Street and the BP on the motorway have both requested I do this. None of them turned off the pump though.
It's a bugger when they do this as it's hard to fill up the bike totally unless you can move the bike around to get all the air out of the tank.
Exactly what I said to the guy who told me to get off at BP Riccarton last week. First time it has happend to me, but it is the policy of all service stations. If the attendant has any common sense, then they will not care, but just remember the society we are living in now. If some dumbass comes in and squirts petrol all over the exhaust of their bike and it catches fire the petrol station would get in shit for it. They are just covering their arses.
Quasievil
22nd May 2004, 17:06
Put it on the centre stand ??
ANd if thats not available then ask them to fill it up while you hold the bike straight ?? :doobey:
Skyryder
22nd May 2004, 17:19
Lou it's a saftey thing. Go to http://www.msgroup.org/DISCUSS.asp and find out why.
Skyryder
dangerous
22nd May 2004, 17:29
Has anyone struck problems with gas stations refusing to allow you to fill unless you get off the bike?
It happened to me at BP Birkenhead today. They actually turned the pump off while I was filing up. I even explained how the overflow sustem worked on a bike and that I have been filling vehicles twice as long as the pump jockey has been alive without immolating myself.
Is this the nanny state gone mad?
What is there reason? did you ask them to explain?
IMO I wont fill up while on the bike never have, I sooner have the bike on the lean so as to get the nosel in easier and witout the higher risk of spilling (having better control) and to.
Also the air gap is ment to be there fpr a reason I have found that in the past when I have over filled the tank that it will siefen(sp) out or exit the over flow if I have filled up on a center stand.
ps: I find that if you park to close to a pump then some dick will park so close to you that there door hits the bike when they open it hence I park out from the pump and move the bike on when finished filling.
FROSTY
22nd May 2004, 17:38
Ive never encountered that problem My response would be instant and top the point. Hand the attendant his gas nozzle start the bike and ride off.
I deal with idiots all day the last thing I need is another idiot in my own time
matthewt
22nd May 2004, 18:34
Has anyone struck problems with gas stations refusing to allow you to fill unless you get off the bike?
It happened to me at BP Birkenhead today. They actually turned the pump off while I was filing up. I even explained how the overflow sustem worked on a bike and that I have been filling vehicles twice as long as the pump jockey has been alive without immolating myself.
Needless to say, they've lost our business.
Is this the nanny state gone mad?
I've seen some signs at gas stations pointing this out. Can't remember which ones.
toads
22nd May 2004, 18:48
the worst petrol stn rule I've ever had was " no your kid can't use the loo unless you buy some petrol!", ( we happened to be on foot and the kid in question was 3 years old and needed to do #2), needless to say I was more than a little pissed off and I boycotted them for years afterwards
Ms Piggy
22nd May 2004, 19:08
This is a little :Offtopic: but a couple of weeks ago I was calling someone on my mobile when I was inside the petrol station (BP in Berhampore) and the bloke behind the counter told me that you're not actually allowed to use cell phones & that there were signs.
When I went back out onto the forecourt there were signs but they were for usage of phones on the forecourt. I couldn't be bothered going back in to argue the point b/c it's not a service station I normaly go to.
I think k14 is right - it's all about covering their arses in the case of a 'worse case scenario' occuring.
Hey Toads - I remember when I was working on a road gang & we were in a little town called Herbert (SI) and the town didn't have a public loo but the guy at the Service Station was really reluctant to allow me to use theirs! DH! :bash:
sAsLEX
22nd May 2004, 19:22
seen the signs at shell's, also state kids cant pump gas and about ten other things
dangerous
22nd May 2004, 19:36
This is a little :Offtopic: but a couple of weeks ago I was calling someone on my mobile when I was inside the petrol station (BP in Berhampore) and the bloke behind the counter told me that you're not actually allowed to use cell phones & that there were signs.
well thats cos in Oz there's been a few close calls like a fella whos phone rang when he was filling up the car, his phone was in his pocket and his hole leg and lower torso was badly burnt and another were a person was already talking on there phone and thay were badly burnt around the face..... not good realy.
youd not think it possible realy aye.
James Deuce
22nd May 2004, 19:58
The high voltage, low amperage static field generated by electronic broadcast devices is a known fact. Your cellphone is always talking to a cell site, so it is always towing a small electric field around with it. Cell phone batteries "leak" static as well. They aren't shielded and you could potentially touch off petrol vapour while using your phone.
There have been cases of people setting fire to themselves and the gas station whilst sitting on a 'bike. I for one always get off the bike when I'm filling because those first couple of steps may save my life if I have to run for it.
Riding bikes is about risk limitation. Why add another couple of risks?
Posh Tourer :P
22nd May 2004, 21:07
Anyone heard of the same in digital/film cameras? we got told not to use them on forecourt too.....
My 11 yr old loves to fill the car up,check oil and stuff,blow up the tyres - most stations won't allow him to,he get's a bit pissed off.Last week I had the boys at work with me on saturday morning - some guy came in from OSH and told me they weren't allowd in the workshop under 15yrs old.Bloody hell - going to work with Dad is an institution,how's a kid supposed to know what his father does all day....how can he follow in my footsteps if he can't follow me around.I went to work with my father on saturday mornings - drove around in trucks and motorscrappers,ran around in dirty pits...didn't hurt me...oh,hang on - scared me for life and I turned into a petrolhead!
Then there's the whole leaving without paying thing, which is probably why they turned off the pump. I've been in a group of bikes where one of the young fellas left without paying so I know where they're coming from (the service station contacted one of the other guys in the group, we worked out who it was, beat his money out of him (well, gave him a really stern telling off, actually), paid back the service station with a letter of apology including the remedy applied so it wouldn't happen again).
I've got a centre stand, so it's not a problem for me, but I noticed that Craig removes his helmet & then starts filling while he's sitting on the Duke & hasn't had a problem. The other remedy would be to give the attendant the key while you fill, to allay their fear of you doing a runner.
have many others been asked to remove their helmets before entering the "shop" in order to pay for the petrol. Mainly at BP stations.Is this a common occurance or just happen to me?? :confused:
RiderInBlack
23rd May 2004, 09:10
I feel that it is common courtesy to remove my helmet before going in to any shop. Shop owner need to be able to identify you. If you are wearing a helmet, they have every right to (and would be stupid not to) assume that you are about to rob them. It happens way too many times to be funny, try walking into a bank with your helmet on if you don’t believe me). Don't be a lazy ass and show the Shops and Gas Stations some courtesy by removing your helmet.
Always dismount my bikes while refuelling them. If you really need to rock them to fill properly, you can do this standing beside it as well as over it (so I can see your problem there, but can see their's).
<O:p</O:pIf you what to have burns (which are the worst to treat, ask a Burns Nurse) by all means use any electrical devise:mobile: while around a gas station (petrol vapour can travel a fare distants before dissipating), even better have a fu*ken smoke:gob:
FzerozeroT
23rd May 2004, 10:42
I don't mind getting off the bike to fill, have to walk in topay anyway, but taking off gloves, helmet, balaclava, earplugs,just to put themon 30 seconds later really pisses me off, Yay Pak'n'Slave eftpos at pump.
rodgerd
23rd May 2004, 11:00
have many others been asked to remove their helmets before entering the "shop" in order to pay for the petrol. Mainly at BP stations.Is this a common occurance or just happen to me?? :confused:
I always used to, but I haven't bothered for the last couple of months, and I've never encountered anyone looking nervous/upset/etc. I must just have an honest walk.
What's odd is the difference in attitude I encounter depending on my clothes: if I'm wearing my round town riding gear (armoured jacket, gloves, boots, and regular jeans), I tend to get friendly treatment. If I'm wearing my open road gear - same, but with armoured trousers - I tend to get a lot more stand-offish and even hostile behaviour in shops.
Deano
23rd May 2004, 11:01
I would rather pay at the pump if it came to removing the gloves, helmet etc every time.
I take the helmet off before going into a bank, but consider paying for your gas to be in the attendants interests, so instead of making it an inconvenience to us, and considering how often we have to fill up, they should provide an alternative if they don't want helmets worn in the shop. Its called good customer service.
mangell6
23rd May 2004, 13:14
have many others been asked to remove their helmets before entering the "shop" in order to pay for the petrol. Mainly at BP stations.Is this a common occurance or just happen to me?? :confused:
This has only ever happened once when I was the only one in a group of six riders that didn't take their helmet off. When I got to the counter (with a queue behine me) I was asked to remove my helmet, so I carefully took my helmet off putting all my gloves, balaclava (winter time) helmet on the small counter and paid my petrol bill.
I figured that the person must have felt threatened and needed to go on a self image course and stop watching the news.
Other comments - Was asked to get off the bike to fill the tank (BP) as fuel could spill from the nozzle onto the hot motor, I then jump off and petrol spills out of my tank and catches fire. It was OK as the person said it was company policy, OSH blah blah blah.
Static electricity has been known to casue petrol fires, mainly from individuals getting out of or into cars. :)
And as for OSH - one day they will work out what they should be doing and that is not protecting people but educating people and holding dumbarses who do stupid things accountable for their actions, you know the lead a horse to water proverb - but thats off topic.
Mike
Skyryder
23rd May 2004, 13:24
Riding bikes is about risk limitation. Why add another couple of risks?
Got it in one Jim2. There's enough dangers out there without our own adding to them.
You gota get off the bike and go pay so why not before the filling. Do youself a favour and maybe save your arse not to mention the bike. For those of you who think that this is just to save the attendent or the Gas station I'll ask one question. Can any of your tell me where the fire extingisher is kept at your 'local' gas station. I'll bet very few can if any. If you do not know where it is guess how long it would take for attendent to put 'you' out. That's if he can find it without having to ask someone.
Skyryder
RiderInBlack
23rd May 2004, 14:29
Thanks Skyryder, that was kind of what I was trying to get across. Would have added to your rep., but apparently it is to good already.:2thumbsup
Big Dog
23rd May 2004, 14:48
I would rather pay at the pump if it came to removing the gloves, helmet etc every time.
I take the helmet off before going into a bank, but consider paying for your gas to be in the attendants interests, so instead of making it an inconvenience to us, and considering how often we have to fill up, they should provide an alternative if they don't want helmets worn in the shop. Its called good customer service.
Well I can tell you from experience that a good way to dirty a clean pair of undies is to work at a gas station (particularly when it is dark) and a non regular walks in wearing a helmet. If I want to leave my helmet on for any reason I go to a station I am known at and go to the nightpay window. I can also tell you from experience the police respond fairly rapidly to "a biker with his helmet on is walking around the shop" at 2am. Dog squad and all. :eyepoke:
Lou Girardin
23rd May 2004, 15:42
Has anyone had personal experience of a bike catching fire while filling, or cars for that matter? I've been connected to the motor trade for years and have never heard of it.
To spill gas on the engine, you'd have to pour it over the outside of the tank. Any fuel slopping over the filler hole drains away to the ground through the drain tubes.
What really annoys me though, is that my safety is my concern, not theirs. Are they going to refuse to sell gas to boy-racers next because they might do something illegal?
If the bike did go up, the result for the gas station would be the same whether I was on it or not.
Big Dog
23rd May 2004, 15:48
the result for the gas station would be the same whether I was on it or not.
Yes but their liability would be higher due to the fact they had not taken all practical steps to protect you from yourself. As such they would be liable for your hospital care. As there is no way of determining your ability with a pump before you make a mistake they are obliged to be proactive.
Would you let someone test drive your bike without determining that they had a license?
Big Dog
23rd May 2004, 15:58
Has anyone had personal experience of a bike catching fire while filling, or cars for that matter? I've been connected to the motor trade for years and have never heard of it.
Yes. And it would have been a whole lot more complicated to put it out if the rider had been astride, especially if he / she had been wearing synthetics.
flames came belching out of the cap of a freinds Yamaha (?) cruiser (warning here it was, in my opinion because they left their ignition in the on position and just used the kill switch. Because it happened when the fan came on.)
My first reactiuon was to pull the bowser out. Luckily for said freind In my panic I forgot to release the handle. The petrol smothered the flames. End of story.
Would my reaction have been the same with someone I knew astride? Would a nylon shirt have gone Puff?
Could said friend have riden home safely having been soaked in petrol? :confused2
Yamahamaman
23rd May 2004, 16:06
Long Gone
We have Supermarkets/Cafe's with petrol dispensing equipment.
Many a time I have waited in line (sometimes long) while Mrs Jones from up the road buys her bread, milk and newspaper or Mr Smith on his way to work buys his Port Royal Tobacco, slim filters and box of matches or Pie, fries and coffee. That was all they were there for.
dangerous
23rd May 2004, 19:01
I put the question to a mate of mine today that used to work for BP, and he said that he remembers a time were they were showen a film of what goes wrong at Servo's and there were a couple of bikes on fire situations 2 were the rider was sitting on the bike........ makes sence aye regardless of how rear it would be for this to happen nothing to do with doing a runner.
As for me I prefure both hands on the pump and not have to worrie about ballencing the bike at the same time and slipping on spilled diesel the side stand is cool by me.
MikeL
23rd May 2004, 21:21
I must admit I never used to think about it, but I almost always get off the bike to fill up. After all you have to get off to go and pay. But I never take my helmet off. To take my helmet off, I have to take my glasses off. To take my glasses off, I have to take my gloves off... You get the point.
But since even with full gear on I obviously look totally unthreatening and completely harmless, I've never been asked to remove my helmet, ever...
pete376403
23rd May 2004, 23:53
You should look at the labels on the gas station doors more closely. Most of them have a "remove helmets before entering " sign of some sort.
I don't always take mine right off, but I open it up - it's a BMW flip front so they (or the cameras) can get a clear view of my face.
Lou Girardin
24th May 2004, 21:04
I spoke to BP customer services today. The response was as I expected. The interesting thing was, when I asked if they actually refused to serve people with cellphones turned on, she said yes. Has anyone been asked if they have a cellphone on? I haven't.
Yamahamaman
24th May 2004, 22:08
After a logical analysis, I suspect that Cell Phones would have more effect on Gas Stations/Supermarkets (with Petrol Dispensing equipment) electronic reporting systems than producing a spark. The power supply in my cellphone is around 3.6 volts at full charge - current somewhere around 200ma (Ben Franklin would be disappointed). More chance of creating a spark from putting down your kickstand. :wacko:
Cajun
25th May 2004, 07:57
Okay i use to manage a bp a few years ago, and i worked at gas stations, including night shift(18 months of it) for a total of about 5 years.
This policy of stoping pumps is crap,i have noticed it is mostly bp i had one a bp stop the pumps on me and i took off, i was also on a demo bike so that didn't worry me. but when they won't give me a straight anwser why, or won't let me speak the manager what they expect. Some bikes i have found make it really hard to full up from the side, due to the huge air box coming out of the tank. makes it easyest to come in from the back.
Also regarding helmets i hardly ever take my helmet off when going to pay for gas, but i also already have my wallet out visor WIDE open before i walk in the door, never had a problem with that before. I pretty much don't full up at bps any more due to there ruling of not allowing to sit on bike why refuelling, yes they are allowed there rules, just means i won't full up with them
Cajun
James Deuce
25th May 2004, 08:08
Did some reasearch last night.
Found two points that explain the mystery flash fires and banning of cellphones.
It appears that women explode at gas stations more than men. This is because they tend to start the pump running and then get back in the car. If the car has a different potential from the pump then you can earth the static build up back through the pump handle igniting the vapour coming out of the filler neck to your petrol tank. If you get out of the car/off the bike to start pumping stay out/off and you should be fine.
Cellphone usage is banned because if you drop it the battery contacts can separate and reconnect and possibly cause a spark. It has nothing to do with static or low wattage electrical fields.
There was also a thread running through the research that early high output cellphones interupted the radio transmission betwixt pump and till, thereby potentially creating a false reading in terms of litres pumped. Sounds apocryphal to me.
pete376403
25th May 2004, 08:59
Did some reasearch last night.
Found two points that explain the mystery flash fires and banning of cellphones.
It appears that women explode at gas stations more than men. This is because they tend to start the pump running and then get back in the car. If the car has a different potential from the pump then you can earth the static build up back through the pump handle igniting the vapour coming out of the filler neck to your petrol tank. If you get out of the car/off the bike to start pumping stay out/off and you should be fine.
Cellphone usage is banned because if you drop it the battery contacts can separate and reconnect and possibly cause a spark. It has nothing to do with static or low wattage electrical fields.
There was also a thread running through the research that early high output cellphones interupted the radio transmission betwixt pump and till, thereby potentially creating a false reading in terms of litres pumped. Sounds apocryphal to me.
Women explode more than men at just about anything. But it has a lot to do with the synthetic fabrics they wear - pantyhose and legs rubbing together can build up a good static charge.
Dunno about the radio links to the pump - why would they bother when the pump can be cabled, either under the ground or via the overhead canopy?
RiderInBlack
25th May 2004, 09:31
Another good reason for Leathers, hey:bleh:
Big Dog
25th May 2004, 18:38
Some bikes i have found make it really hard to full up from the side, due to the huge air box coming out of the tank. makes it easyest to come in from the back.
? I don't get this statement at all. If you are too short to comfortably fill your bike surely you are too short for the bike in general?
I fill from the side (as stated earlier if there is a fire I would prefer it was not my sausage being flame grilled). I fill left handed if approaching from the right (usual as this keeps my right hand free to rock the bike). I dunno about you but the filler cap is just about my waist height. A tad low but very comfy.
I would have thought filling from the rear would be very awkward, what with you being on the seat? It certainly would be awkward for me unless I got up on the back seat.
Big Dog
25th May 2004, 18:40
Another good reason for Leathers, hey:bleh:
Becaise we would look bloody silly in a body stocking. :killingme Not to mention it offering little or no protection. :blink:
Big Dog
25th May 2004, 18:43
Dunno about the radio links to the pump - why would they bother when the pump can be cabled, either under the ground or via the overhead canopy?
Way too expensive to radio, not to mention too easily tampered with.
Most stations are still being fitted out with eighties technology copper wire controllers. :killingme
It is not a big enough field to justify reasearch on something that would be expensive offer little or no return and as a result be less accurate.
RiderInBlack
25th May 2004, 19:43
Becaise we would look bloody silly in a body stocking. :killingme Not to mention it offering little or no protection. :blink:
Especially from exploding women:killingme :killingme Always wore my leathers (with the ammour and back protector in of course) around my ex-wife. Blood dangerous her. Talk about EX-plosive:angry2: :shit: :killingme (just joking).
James Deuce
25th May 2004, 20:36
Way too expensive to radio, not to mention too easily tampered with.
Most stations are still being fitted out with eighties technology copper wire controllers. :killingme
It is not a big enough field to justify reasearch on something that would be expensive offer little or no return and as a result be less accurate.
I didn't just research NZ by the way. There is a huge amount of oil company, oil distributor and private owner information about static discharge on a forecourt. Some of case studies had radio (local not bought off a telco), microwave (the most likely candidate for cell phone interference), fibre optic, copper (analogue, SDLC, HDLC, proprietary X.35 RS448), coax, and dark fibre linking pump to till.
Tight band radio works fine.
Cell phones causing fires etc... Well I never would have thought.
Good thing my CP gave up on me the other day..
Oh another funny thing happened. Some Asian woman in Hair Dressing Dept @ MIT was txting in class, Apparently the cell phone all of a sudden started getting warm and changed colours etc. The next min there was an explosion and the whole cell phone was splattered all over the room. The battery must have exploded or something. The cleaner from out Dept (Electronic Engineering) had to go over and help clean up the place. (How I found out). The Woman had to be sent to hospital for burns etc to her hand. And then there was the hole in the floor from the acid :blink:... That will teach her for not listening in class :lol:
Next terriest Weapon????
Hitcher
26th May 2004, 21:27
Are you guys serious?
I spent several weeks once in the Hutt Hospital burns and plastic reconstruction ward and shared a room with a guy who had seen the ugly face of burning petrol up close and personal. So you've never dropped your bike while filling it up. So you like to get that extra 125mL in the top. Big deal! The worst case scenario at service stations has some pretty serious consequences -- particularly when your cordura and polarfleece bursts into flame and melts all over you at 300-plus degrees...
Get off and stand alongside when filling up, you eggs!
Kickaha
26th May 2004, 21:40
Are you guys serious?
Get off and stand alongside when filling up, you eggs!
I always get off and use the centrestand to fill up and always take off my helmet when I go inside,I don't really see it as much of a problem.
Quasievil
26th May 2004, 21:53
Are you guys serious?
I spent several weeks once in the Hutt Hospital burns and plastic reconstruction ward and shared a room with a guy who had seen the ugly face of burning petrol up close and personal. So you've never dropped your bike while filling it up. So you like to get that extra 125mL in the top. Big deal! The worst case scenario at service stations has some pretty serious consequences -- particularly when your cordura and polarfleece bursts into flame and melts all over you at 300-plus degrees...
Get off and stand alongside when filling up, you eggs!
WELL SAID :apint:
I have never filled up my bike sitting on it, I imagine it would be very akward to do? (specially not having overly long arms to reach the pump).
Used to put my bikes on the mainstand but now only have a sidestand and that's fine.
Usually leave my helmet on (hassle with earplugs etc etc) but always make eye contact and usually have my wallet in my hand.
Lou Girardin
27th May 2004, 06:58
Are you guys serious?
I spent several weeks once in the Hutt Hospital burns and plastic reconstruction ward and shared a room with a guy who had seen the ugly face of burning petrol up close and personal. So you've never dropped your bike while filling it up. So you like to get that extra 125mL in the top. Big deal! The worst case scenario at service stations has some pretty serious consequences -- particularly when your cordura and polarfleece bursts into flame and melts all over you at 300-plus degrees...
Get off and stand alongside when filling up, you eggs!
Was he burnt while filling up? Or something like putting gas on a BBQ to start it.
From what I've seen, if enough fuel vapour ignites it won't matter if you're sitting or standing, you will get flash burns at the very least. You sure won't outrun it.
Holy Roller
27th May 2004, 07:03
All stations have the little pix of not sitting or straddling a bike on the pump. Though at times I have remained sitting on the bike but rarely now. What I have had is my boy being stopped filling up as he is too young :disapint:
Hitcher
27th May 2004, 08:57
Was he burnt while filling up? Or something like putting gas on a BBQ to start it.
From what I've seen, if enough fuel vapour ignites it won't matter if you're sitting or standing, you will get flash burns at the very least. You sure won't outrun it.
What generally happens as a result of a vapour flash during filling (and this doesn't necessarily have to be a consequence of anything you've done either -- petrol vapour, especially in frosty calm condistions, lurks with menace) is that the person doing the filling panics and drops the gun... I imagine that in the process of leaping off a bike some people may also neglect to cap the tank and put down the side stand...
About the cell phone etc business I would that thought that starting up an engine just after filling would be the biggest cause with the sparks etc in the starter or even in the key switch as that is very near the fuel tank...
Coldkiwi
27th May 2004, 13:23
WELL SAID :apint:
bloody oath. I worked for Shells engineering branch a few years ago over the summer and they are WELL paranoid about the fire danger of fuel vapours... why? because it makes a bloody big mess when they go off! Its a bit like aircraft where 99.9% of aircraft flights are uneventful, but when they go wrong, a whole lot goes wrong at once.
Read the freakin signs and if you don't like it, go somewhere else (and read their signs and then run out of fuel trying to find some hick station that doesn't understand safety) :mobile:
as for helmets, i always take mine off unless going to my regular haunt of Gull on Reeves/Ti Rakau drive. They all know me and my bike becuase I'm in there about twice a week (damn traffic making me lane split in 2nd gear!)
mangell6
27th May 2004, 20:37
I got sent this on Tuesday with a notice about petrol fires, etc, etc. I do not know if it is staged or what but it looks very effective. The discharge of static electricity causes a large amount of fuel fires.
It is a reasonably large avi, (1,704KB), for those of us that are on dialup and lasts about 1m20sec.
Enjoy
Women are capable of filling there own car (http://www.angellandassociates.co.nz/lifestyle/kiwibiker/gasfirec.avi) :D
Coldkiwi
28th May 2004, 13:21
whoa! I wonder if the video stops there because the car exploded and took out the camera? (the tank is still smouldering!)
oh, and I think you can safely say it wasn't staged. No gas company wanting to stay in business would even laugh about the idea of a fire on the forecourt.
Coldkiwi
28th May 2004, 13:40
ahh, this is what I was trying to find. The video referred to may well be the one posted above.
Its a safety warnign from Shell and shows a van that got a little more flambe'd... actually it could be the one from the video if the fire took hold after the video stops. :shutup:
This is worth reading guys (and its only 142 kb!)
vifferman
28th May 2004, 14:04
I always fill my bike by standing next to it. It was OK with my last two bikes, as they had centre stands, but it's a pain on the VTR as it has a very small fuel range, so I like to get it as full as possible. Becuase of this, I have been tempted to sit on it while filling it, so I can get it more upright, but I've read too much and have too vivid an imagination to do so. Sometimes I lean it up off the stand a little to get a bit more in, but it's very awkward.
I used to leave my helmet on when paying for petrol at the local Caltex station, but one day went to a BP, and they asked me to remove it. Since then, I've always removed it, as I twigged to why they'd asked me too.
I've never seen any signs about this, but just figured it was courteous to do so, alleviating the staff of any fears I might be a bandito! I was tempted to get a flip-front helmet like my wife's one, just so I didn't have to remove my helmet, and may still do so. Yes, it's a pain having to take off gloves, sunglasses and helmet, but too bad.
That reminds me - once a bee hit me on the nose while riding up our road, and I had to stop in a hurry, take of my gloves, sunglasses and helmet to get it out of the helmet. :eek: It seemed to take forever! Luckily, it stung me on a part of my nose where the skin is thin and there's cartilage underneath, so it didn't hurt much. Either that or the impact with my hard conk stunned it! :laugh:
vifferman
28th May 2004, 14:09
It's interesting that the woman fiddles her jersey around a few times, and seems to have pantyhose on under her pants, by the way she keeps adjusting her pants leg. Those two things and sitting in the car fidgeting around would have built up quite a static charge, which arced to the metal dispensing nozzle when she reached for it ....
Lou Girardin
31st May 2004, 21:07
Went to fill the LPG bottle on Sunday. I happened to notice a guy get an old plastic container out of the car and start filling it. Wife and kids patiently waiting. He finished the job and the put the bloody thing on the floor by the front passengers seat, paid and drove off. I wonder if BP have a policy about that.
Lou
PS. Who saw the gas station scene in Zoolander?
Kickaha
31st May 2004, 21:12
Went to fill the LPG bottle on Sunday. I happened to notice a guy get an old plastic container out of the car and start filling it. Wife and kids patiently waiting. He finished the job and the put the bloody thing on the floor by the front passengers seat, paid and drove off. I wonder if BP have a policy about that.
Lou
PS. Who saw the gas station scene in Zoolander?
If the container being filled isn't an approved fuel container I think you will find the gas station can be fined big time.
Coldkiwi
1st June 2004, 12:13
Went to fill the LPG bottle on Sunday. I happened to notice a guy get an old plastic container out of the car and start filling it. Wife and kids patiently waiting. He finished the job and the put the bloody thing on the floor by the front passengers seat, paid and drove off. I wonder if BP have a policy about that.
Lou
PS. Who saw the gas station scene in Zoolander?
hehe, I was wondering if someone would mention that scene!! :punk: damn funny
I thought the LPG dispenser could only be operated by staff and would only connect to a proper gas valve? sounds flippin scary!
Dr Bob
1st June 2004, 16:26
have many others been asked to remove their helmets before entering the "shop" in order to pay for the petrol. Mainly at BP stations.Is this a common occurance or just happen to me?? :confused:
My biggest problem is having cash handy, leaving my helmet on and waiving it around waiting for the attendent to come and collect it. Fortunately most stations have a night pay slot and I stick the money in that.
vifferman
1st June 2004, 16:38
Mmmmm..... steammmm....
scumdog
1st June 2004, 17:26
Mmmmm..... steammmm....
No problems down here, always sit on the bike while filling, when you ride a Sporty you need to get every last drop in - the tank ain't THAT big!!!
I stay on the bike while Mrs S-D (a.k.a. Chrissy-Bimbo) goes into the office and pays. At the odd time I have been solo I have walked in with helmet on and no worries - of course the fingerless gloves make it easier on those occassions to get the cash out of the pockets :niceone:
Big Dog
1st June 2004, 18:50
Who saw the gas station scene in Zoolander?
When I was working in security I was shown footage of a guy who goes into the gas station, picks up a new petrol can, fills it up goes up to the counter, orders cigs and matches.
When he recieved the matches he promptly poured pertol all over the attendant and asked him if he wanted to die, realk calm like.
He then told him flipping the panic alarm might be enough electricity to set him alight. Fill the bag with cash and ciggies or die.
Talk about low cost robbery, but one hell of a risk, the tape clearly shows slops going all over the offenders legs.
Would you co-operate?
dangerous
1st June 2004, 19:33
If the container being filled isn't an approved fuel container I think you will find the gas station can be fined big time.
Well at the end of last year I ran out of fuel on the bike and had to sit pillion (once the bugger came back to look for me) to a servo were I asked for there fuel can that they lend out...... They dont have one as it keeps getting nicked, I said well what the bloody hell do I do now then cos they dident even have one to sell to me.
Well the two behind the counter muttered a bit and then went and got a expired 1-1/4 coke bottel drained the coke out went out side filled it up I paid for the petrol only shoved it down my frount and we headed back to my bike.
Yes a bit dodgy but I realy appresiated it as what else could I have done but push the damn thing to the servo.
Big Dog
4th June 2004, 18:30
Yes and given enough "thermal encouragement" most pet products are spontaneously combustible when mixed with petrol.
As a one of for a short distance no prob bob.
Put the same bottle (without a suitable ventilation hole) under your house in summer od in the boot of your cage and you stand a pretty good chance of claiming on your insurance.
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