Glock with drum mag

[Korumba]

Didn’t know they could do that!

[Sniper]

Glock 21 with custom Car15 mag mounts. Fucken awesome toy, but practicality wise is a silly idea

[Korumba]

What’s the one next door? on the mount, that looks practical

[Sniper]

What’s the one next door? on the mount, that looks practical
GPMG: General Purpouse Machine gun. Also known as the Gimpy

EDIT: Mean bastard of a weapon firing 750rpm of 7.62mm with a short range (Infantry carried) of 800 and long range (Dug in or tripod like you see) of 1800m. Can be belt fed, box fed or in some cases I hyave seen pics of a magazine set up

[scumdog]

Glock 21 with custom Car15 mag mounts. Fucken awesome toy, but practicality wise is a silly idea

As much use as a chocolate fire-guard but shee-it would be fun spraying the landscape!:nono:

I guess that's why the boss won't get me one, dang!!

[R6_kid]

that guy has a scary resemblence to cowpoos with short hair...

[oldrider]

One could change the government with that thing! Looks like a fun thing but how hot would the barrel be after that? :blip:

[onearmedbandit]

OMFG. That is very impressive,

[Sniper]

One could change the government with that thing! Looks like a fun thing but how hot would the barrel be after that? :blip:

Usually they are right on the verg or warping. Got to hand it to Glock though, they know how to build a pistol.

[Kickaha]

Why doesn't he get a real weapon

http://users.rcn.com/sitzkrieg/war/gatlinggun.wmv

http://www.backyardartillery.com/machinegun/

[onearmedbandit]

Oh yeah, now both of those links are cool.

[R6_kid]

Why doesn't he get a real weapon

http://users.rcn.com/sitzkrieg/war/gatlinggun.wmv



ME WANTS!!!

[Kickaha]

ME WANTS!!!

Get to the back of the line buddy

[onearmedbandit]

How about this then? (http://www.guncity.co.nz/40mm-bofor-anti-aircraft-gun-xidp119997.html)

I could probably get you a discount...

[N4CR]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_(gun)

Mmm and why they have been my most favourite guns of all time.. hehehehe.
I'm guessing every 6 or so bullets in that onboard chopper clip was a tracer.. go figure. That's literally a hail of bullets :D

Another interesting read http://yarchive.net/gun/vulcan.html

I have a short videoclip (off the tv tuner) of one of these puppies destroying an RX7 on monster garage. Least to say it don't take long. It is 67mb though I will crunch it down one day and post it on here if you wish.

A good one is the knob creek shoot.. bunch of redneck nutters with machine guns and the like. FUN!

http://www.knobcreekshoot.com/
http://www.machinegunshoot.com/
<img src=http://www.knobcreekshoot.com/images/more/DualMini-Gun.jpg>

And this video is crazy as hell, exploding drums of petrol strapped with dynamite getting hit by like.. 50 machine guns at a time. WOW.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6827679956771459066

[Sniper]

I love weapon threads :D

[Sniper]

http://www.hkpro.com/oicw.htm

I want one of these

[Korumba]

What gun would this be? Don’t think its 50cal because as I understand it you can no longer shoot people with one. .vehicles and objects with people in them are fair game though.

I R rated it, no ones gets naked, but the are knackered !!! So be warned its live footage and does involve death. the news shows stuff like this all the time so figure its ok to post...

[Sniper]

30mm chain gun on the nose of the apache. Thats jusdging by the sound. Could also be another 7.62 mini gun depending.

According to the Geneva convention you may not DIRECTLY shoot someone with a .50. If you were just shooting the vehicle they were in or in their area its a good grey spot. Although I do know someone back in SA who used a Barrett in the cops....... fun

[SlashWylde]

30mm chain gun on the nose of the apache. Thats jusdging by the sound. Could also be another 7.62 mini gun depending.

According to the Geneva convention you may not DIRECTLY shoot someone with a .50. If you were just shooting the vehicle they were in or in their area its a good grey spot. Although I do know someone back in SA who used a Barrett in the cops....... fun

That's a curious distiction. Correct me if I'm wrong but a .50 cal is 12.70mm right? So you can directy shoot someone with a 30mm projectile but not a 12.7mm one? Judging by the video the 30mm just rips a person to bits.

I seem to recall from reading 'Black Hawk Down' and 'Sabre Squadron' that 0.50 cal weapons were used extensively and I don't remember reading any thing about the operators not shooting directly at people with them.

Another piece of trivia for you. The audio from this video was used by NZ band 'Subtract' in in the bridge of their song 'War' from the album 'Formula One'.

[Sniper]

That's a curious distiction. Correct me if I'm wrong but a .50 cal is 12.70mm right? So you can directy shoot someone with a 30mm projectile but not a 12.7mm one? Judging by the video the 30mm just rips a person to bits..................snip...............album 'Formula One'.

Im tired, but I'll try recall as much as I can. I spent so much of my life learning about reptiles and weaponry (Strange I know) but its been a while since I had to discuss it so please forgive me if I mix things up or am incorrect.
Dont believe what you read in books...If you have read Bravo Two Zero, you would know what I mean.

If you were to follow the Geneva Convention rules to the letter, you would be back in the 1900's lining up on feilds and firing muskets at one another. Basically the convention was just held becasue of war camps, POW torture and all sorts of evil shit the the swiss didnt want. Shit, there is even a clause saying that if a battle shall cause harm to the enviroment for a period exceeding 5 months then the commanders shall be brought to trial.

Regarding the usage of .50 in Black Hawk down. They were getting shot to peices by fuckers that had no respect for their own or injured. You are not meant to shoot at vehicles who carry wounded or medics or anything with a medical symbol on the side. I would shoot at those bastard too.

I cant remember the exact terms, but I believe shooting someone with a round where it is more likely to kill painfully (Ie: .50 hitting you in the leg and you bleeding to death) than hit you and turn your body in to mush. Same reason you cannot use dum-dums or explosive rounds on infantry.....

I think I got it, but Im dog tired, apologese if I screwed up

[Sniper]

EDIT: I stand corrected. I cant find any clause in the Geneva Convention on the usage of .50cal on personal. I got it mixed up with the usage of the types of rounds that can be used....

[N4CR]

http://www.hkpro.com/oicw.htm

I want one of these


Hmm reminds me of this puppy, mabey they just redesigned it to take the explosive rounds and not the caseless whacko firing rate ones of the g11, I think it could get a burst 3 round out without recoil due to design.. that's a rather high 1st round hit probability.

http://remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/g11/g11.htm

[Sniper]

Hmm reminds me of this puppy, mabey they just redesigned it to take the explosive rounds and not the caseless whacko firing rate ones of the g11, I think it could get a burst 3 round out without recoil due to design.. that's a rather high 1st round hit probability.

http://remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/g11/g11.htm

I have read up on those. They look farking cool. Do you know if those do use electrical pulses to fire the rounds? Its either the G11 or something else H&K make

[N4CR]

I have read up on those. They look farking cool. Do you know if those do use electrical pulses to fire the rounds? Its either the G11 or something else H&K make

400MHz computer if thats what you are getting at haha, they are caseless so I'm guessing electronic ignition, dunno what mechanics can sustain that crazy rate of fire without seriously fucking the recoil-less design anyway.

[Sniper]

Lol, that is the one then.....

[Mr. Peanut]

Mental Note:

STAY IN THE TRUCK :gob:

[Korumba]

I have a video somewhere from a AC130 and those dudes are using a 105mm gun to take out individual people on the ground so I guess the 50 cal rule is a crock of shit when applied to that.

[oldguy]

Didn’t know they could do that!be alot of fun, but shit couldn't fit it under my coat. :ar15:

[jahrasti]

If the 50 is your crew served weapon (mounted in a hummer for example) then you can go for gold on anything you want but if you have a smaller weapon as a coax 7.62 for example then you have to use that but if you were to have a problem with the coax then you can use the 50 again. clear as mud ?

[oldguy]

I seem to recall from reading 'Black Hawk Down' and 'Sabre Squadron' that 0.50 cal weapons were used extensively and I don't remember reading any thing about the operators not shooting directly at people with them.

I think in that situation the 50 was used for suppression, were you have to move through narrow streets, don't think you would want to stick your head up when one of those was being fired in your direction.

[Sniper]

If the 50 is your crew served weapon (mounted in a hummer for example) then you can go for gold on anything you want but if you have a smaller weapon as a coax 7.62 for example then you have to use that but if you were to have a problem with the coax then you can use the 50 again. clear as mud ?

Where did you hear that?? In a combat situation you use the Gimpy as a movable supression platform where the .50 will fuck anything up that it tends to shoot at. You cannot find cover with a .50 firing at you cause there is fuck all that stops it.

I do like the clear as mud statement

[Sniper]

I have a video somewhere from a AC130 and those dudes are using a 105mm gun to take out individual people on the ground so I guess the 50 cal rule is a crock of shit when applied to that.

Called the AC130 Spectre gunship. Now I would love the feeling of being in one of those.

<img src=http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130-15.jpg></img src>

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm

[onearmedbandit]

You cannot find cover with a .50 firing at you cause there is fuck all that stops it.



That's, just, friggin' awesome.

[jord]

thats a bit freakin awesom isnt it

[scumdog]

Saw avideo where a .50 is used to shoot up a 1970 Buick at the end, do any of you muzzle-heads recall such a video and the name of it??

The whole video was on different calibres and there effect on different targets etc. - petrol tanks, bullet-proof vests, cars, etc.

[Sniper]

Seen it. I have it on CD somewhere and I'll dig it out for you SD

[Swoop]

According to the Geneva convention you may not DIRECTLY shoot someone with a .50.
That would make a mockery of the snipers 1600yd confirmed kills in gulf war (1&2) then. It also dosen't apply to US forces, as I have been led to believe that they have never signed the convention...???


EDIT for post below: No worries Sniper.

[Sniper]

That would make a mockery of the snipers 1600yd confirmed kills in gulf war (1&2) then. It also dosen't apply to US forces, as I have been led to believe that they have never signed the convention...???

It was 1654yd kill if I remember. But you are right Swoop, and I did correct myself earlier in the thread

[scumdog]

That would make a mockery of the snipers 1600yd confirmed kills in gulf war (1&2) then. It also dosen't apply to US forces, as I have been led to believe that they have never signed the convention...???

Well it certainly DOESN'T apply to the 'other side' that's for sure.

Sauce for the goose and all that i.m.h.o.

[Lias]

How about this then? (http://www.guncity.co.nz/40mm-bofor-anti-aircraft-gun-xidp119997.html)

I could probably get you a discount...
How much ammo does it come with?
I'd be tempted to sell my bike to buy that if its a working weapon and comes with a good supply of ammo.. I wonder how hard it would be to find out what flight helen clark was on and get the gun in place in time *grin*

I still want to get one of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_XM109

Particularly the BORS system on it.. It gives me wood :-)

To enable the shooter to engage targets out to 2,500 meters, Barrett has developed an integrated ballistic computer/ riflescope system known as BORS (Barrett Optical Ranging System). Historically, long range shooting has been a highly technical endeavor in which the shooter had to make a number of calculations before the trigger could be pulled. These calculations included range to the target, the effects of barometric pressure and air temperature, and the type of ammunition loaded. BORS automatically calculates all these variables, and adjusts the sight reticule accordingly. All the shooter needs to do is enter the ammunition type into the BORS (using touch pads on the BORS console) determine the range (either mechanically or through a LRF) and crank the elevation knob on the scope until the proper range appears in the BORS display. The BORS automatically determines the temperature and barometric pressure, as well as the cant or tilt in the rifle itself, and incorporates these enviro-physical factors into its calculations. Once the proper range has been entered, the shooter need only put the target under the crosshairs and pull the trigger.

The Block I version of BORS is available now, while Block II (which will include an integrated range finder) is expected to become available in '05 with Block III (new optics, Night Vision capable, wide angle, stabilized image) becoming available in '06. Lastly, Barrett believes that the BORS system will be completely compatible with the 200mm air-bursting grenade featured on the OICW and that similar ammunition could be developed for use in the XM-109, as well as adapting the BORS to the OICW, to provide ranging and environmental information to the 20mm grenade launcher.

[Lou Girardin]

There's nothing new anymore.
Luger had a snail mag for the P08 artillery model with a 6" barrel. Not full auto though.

[Swoop]

Luger had a snail mag for the P08 artillery model with a 6" barrel.
Worth as much, if not more than, a decent luger these days. Most of the snail drum mags were thrown away by the owner/s since they were awkward to carry, store, etc.


Well it certainly DOESN'T apply to the 'other side' that's for sure.

Sauce for the goose and all that i.m.h.o.
Exactly right!

[James Deuce]

I'm thinking the GLock 18 with the 31 round long mag would be a bit more manageable.

[Sniper]

I'm thinking the GLock 18 with the 31 round long mag would be a bit more manageable.


Not as fun though :blip:

[James Deuce]

3 rnd burst from a hand gun makes me scream like a girl. Full auto would DEFINITELY make me cry.

[Sniper]

3 rnd burst from a hand gun makes me scream like a girl. Full auto would DEFINITELY make me cry.


I would cry to if I was on the dangerous end, but definetly have fun firing it. :)

[jahrasti]

Where did you hear that?? In a combat situation you use the Gimpy as a movable supression platform where the .50 will fuck anything up that it tends to shoot at. You cannot find cover with a .50 firing at you cause there is fuck all that stops it.

I do like the clear as mud statement


I am talking about about vehicles, If you have a 50 in a groung mount then you can use it at what eva you want, you will have a Hmg team operating with your SF(7.62). In a veh then then you may have more than one weapon and if you do have a weapon smaller than a 50, then you cant use a 50 on troops in the open.(I am talking about a machine gun not a sniper rifle)Dug in troops and light skinned vehicles and anything else you can go for gold, and seen as a box of 50 ammo only contains 100 rnds and fires at 550 rnds per/min even slower in the ground mount you could fair chew through your X amount of ammo.BUT if you are in a built up area and the badies are useing buildings as cover then you could use your heavy machine gun to punch through the walls. Anyway as long as your side wins does it really matter? Are we led to believe that the allied forces in WW2 were angels and didnt do any bad things as oposed to the Germans. It is easy for me to sit here and comment when when someone is in that suitation they would use whateva it takes to stay alive.

[Sniper]

In a veh then then you may have more than one weapon and if you do have a weapon smaller than a 50, then you cant use a 50 on troops in the open

Where did you hear that? I was under that same impression until I actually researched it, but it turns out you can fire whatever you want at whoever fires at you regardless of what weapons your team carries

[scumdog]

Peace through superior firepower, you use what it takes to win.