Only in the U.S [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

SwanTiger

19th June 2006, 23:32

I carry a 9mm Taurus 24/7 4" with me most of the time. I use an inside the pants holster and carry in the small of my back or on my right side. It becomes visible most of the time, but that's ok. Most of the public assume people that carry guns are bad and stay away from you while you are riding. Its funny how many riders are hit because people never see them, but everyone notices the ones that are packing.

This guy might be on to something. A new LTSA safety campaign?

Quartida

19th June 2006, 23:36

You're right... It's weird to think that is IS just normal conversation. If someone said that here I'd be laughing my ass off. Or terrified.

I feel as though you could equally ask NZders "Do you carry a cabbage when you ride?" and you'd get the same look for both.

awesker

19th June 2006, 23:46

This guy might be on to something. A new LTSA safety campaign?

haha, where do I sign?

twinkle

20th June 2006, 00:00

I feel as though you could equally ask NZders "Do you carry a cabbage when you ride?" and you'd get the same look for both.

I pack vegetables all the time when i ride, never know when i'm gonna need a marrow to defend myself with. Had a pineapple this evening.

qldzxr250a

20th June 2006, 00:21

these guys have some serious screws loose..... i mean ffs guns under all your safety gear..... crazy yanks...

:2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :ar15: :ar15: :ar15:

gamgee

20th June 2006, 07:26

seppo's really are farked in the head, and those are bikers ffs, wonder what the cages are packing???

jazbug5

20th June 2006, 07:36

Hmm. Which do you reckon gives the better 'trouser profile', though: a Magnum or a foil-wrapped cucumber?

hazard02

20th June 2006, 07:37

WHEN 911 IS NOT AN OPTION, SMITH AND WESSON IS!

Pretty much sums them up. Wonder if it counts when your gun is just closer than your phone..

Squeak the Rat

20th June 2006, 07:42

Hmm. Which do you reckon gives the better 'trouser profile', though: a Magnum or a foil-wrapped cucumber?
I always go for a brocolli.

SARGE

20th June 2006, 07:50

Found this on a U.S CBR forum, thought of it as quite odd, or maybe Im just to sheltered in little NZ

http://www.cbrforum.com/m_112230/tm.htm

i find it funny how its just normal conversation...

discuss

y'all just remember this next time you star Yank Bashing..

Sniper

20th June 2006, 08:07

y'all just remember this next time you star Yank Bashing..

Hahahaha :niceone:

I dont know, maybe its because Im South African and there was always a firearm in the car or around us. Im all for it if you think you need it. Bit silly to carry one as a bling factor (I presume), but if there is a genuine reason for carrying it, I say go for it.

Lou Girardin

20th June 2006, 08:13

Someone cuts you off, so you kill them?
What if the cutter-offer had a bigger, badder gun?
Yep, only in Amurika.

scumdog

20th June 2006, 08:19

Someone cuts you off, so you kill them?
What if the cutter-offer had a bigger, badder gun?
Yep, only in Amurika.

Yeah,, at least in Newzuland we only use hammers eh?

bobsmith

20th June 2006, 08:40

Hmmm some of them pointed out quite well that guns under safety gear could be dangerous in crash (metal bits digging into you and breaking bones, etc...) I noticed that there was a link to a tank bag with gun holster... hehe cool.

Squeak the Rat

20th June 2006, 08:46

Forget carrying weapons, the big question on every ones mind: is it legal to mount guns onto the bike?

Sniper

20th June 2006, 08:53

Someone cuts you off, so you kill them?

Then you pop a cap in their ass!

Posh Tourer :P

20th June 2006, 08:55

I pack vegetables all the time when i ride.

Two potatoes and a big cucumber. Or a bratwurst, depends how I'm feeling at the time.....

scumdog

20th June 2006, 09:03

DMNTD

20th June 2006, 09:31

Forget carrying weapons, the big question on every ones mind: is it legal to mount guns onto the bike?
Not sure but a certain KBer turned up at my house a couple of weeks ago packing :whistle:
Was the funniest thing we'd seen in a longtime too! There are two mounted btw
And the call us mad up here!! :slap:

Lou Girardin

20th June 2006, 09:39

Amazing how the thought of "mad Yanks, carrying guns while riding their bikes, hate to live there" kind of stuff makes us feel heappps better.

While here twin babies get killed, school-girls kidnapped, security couriers robbed at gunpoint, power out for weeks due to snow, the leader of the country has a penchant for telling porkies... oh yeah, New Zealand is sooo much better.....

None of that, except the last, affects me. So I'd rather be here than shot by some mouth breahing NRA member who objects to my 'vigorous' lane splitting.
At least our drivers have to get close to kill us.

PS Do you know how to tell a pollie is lying?

Their lips are moving.

Quartida

20th June 2006, 09:48

Amazing how the thought of "mad Yanks, carrying guns while riding their bikes, hate to live there" kind of stuff makes us feel heappps better.

While here twin babies get killed, school-girls kidnapped, security couriers robbed at gunpoint, power out for weeks due to snow, the leader of the country has a penchant for telling porkies... oh yeah, New Zealand is sooo much better.....

At least people in NZ don't threaten to kill when someone cuts them off.

At least, not with any real intent.

Or, at least, not with a gun to back them up. :blink:

Biohazard

20th June 2006, 09:48

what a crazy world

Persoanlly id use a tank bag - Then there is room for a Sig p228 and a couple of white phos nades for added effect...:rofl:

jazbug5

20th June 2006, 10:05

what a crazy world

Persoanlly id use a tank bag - Then there is room for a Sig p228 and a couple of white phos nades for added effect...:rofl:

Or a nice big fish..?

Clivoris

20th June 2006, 10:07

While here twin babies get killed, school-girls kidnapped, security couriers robbed at gunpoint, power out for weeks due to snow, the leader of the country has a penchant for telling porkies... oh yeah, New Zealand is sooo much better.....
We can't deny that shitty things happen here every day. Those same shitty things happen everywhere, sometimes more often in other countries. Personally, I'm stoked that the emotionally immature people I run into (figuratively of course) most days, don't have access to firearms. That's a problem we don't need on top of the other shit. There are so many uplifting things occurring around us, that don't make the news, that deserve equal attention-time with the shit-stuff. We can't afford to ignore problems but we definitely need to remember balance and perspective. Let's not forget the good stuff like friends, family and motorcycles. Damn, I'll have to banish myself to an interior decorating site soon.
I do believe that New Zealand is the best place to be. It's why I'm here. Like most Kiwis I've looked around too. Finally, all politicians lie, all systems break down at the edges of their capacity, and in all seriousness, I honestly appreciate the work that the feds do to reduce the odds of bad guys getting away with shit. End of sermon.

twinkle

20th June 2006, 10:18

Or a nice big fish..?

and a couple of squid

WRT

20th June 2006, 10:47

Then you pop a cap in their ass!

If they had cut you off, there's a good chance that they just beat you to it by busting a nut in your ass, metaphorically speaking.

Or arse, if it didnt happen in the US.

scumdog

20th June 2006, 10:52

None of that, except the last, affects me. So I'd rather be here than shot by some mouth breahing NRA member who objects to my 'vigorous' lane splitting.
At least our drivers have to get close to kill us.

PS Do you know how to tell a pollie is lying?

Their lips are moving.

Neither does some gun-toting guy in the USA affect you...

And yet all the other items I mentioned affect somebody somewhere in NZ - but we still sit back smug-like and say "pah, ferkin' mad pricks, glad I live in NewZiland, don't get THAT shit here" - but hold on, what about the shit we DO get here?
Is it a "feel-good" thing to focus on the Yank gun-toting issue (knowing it will never be a problem here) so we can gloss over our own problems?

light

20th June 2006, 11:23

Crazy but I guess when every second person over there is a Gang banger its a needed add-on for ever biker.

Plus if you look at half the bikes they have posted they look like they have a lot of mods.

Plus its prolly harder to get a CBR over there?!? I know to get Jap cars is hard so is it the same for bikes?

iwilde

20th June 2006, 11:55

The most scariest thought is someone reading a Honda Forum!

imdying

20th June 2006, 11:58

Someone cuts you off, so you kill them?
Yep, you're on to it.

What if the cutter-offer had a bigger, badder gun?
Obvious solution is don't wait till they cut you off :lol:

pritch

20th June 2006, 13:29

Someone cuts you off, so you kill them?
What if the cutter-offer had a bigger, badder gun?
Yep, only in Amurika.

Not necessarily. I remember a headline about a road rage incident on the road north to Warkworth where a guy jumped out of his car armed with a machete. A Glock 21 would be a good response to that.

scumdog

20th June 2006, 13:55

Crazy but I guess when every second person over there is a Gang banger its a needed add-on for ever biker.
?

I guess you've been watching too many rap-crap (when do they start actually singing?) music videos and it's fried your mind??????

In many months and 10,s of thousands of miles I never saw road-rage (or any incident) that had a biker or *anybody pulling a gun (or anything).

And I went to some 'dodgy parts of town' over there.

* 'cept the cops, - and then it was a Tazer.

Big Dave

20th June 2006, 14:34

It's a different set of circumstances from the very beginning.

Bears, large cats, wolves and other large carnivores roaming around in the bush would make me far more gun friendly than the odd import possum.

Sure it's out of control with assault weapons etc - but they had different ground rules than here to start with.

ZeroIndex

20th June 2006, 15:53

Hahahaha :niceone:

I dont know, maybe its because Im South African and there was always a firearm in the car or around us. Im all for it if you think you need it. Bit silly to carry one as a bling factor (I presume), but if there is a genuine reason for carrying it, I say go for it.
if it was for bling factor you'd want this (pic #1) not a silly little glock..
but yeah.. convert your fairings so they have a retractable gun holster *think Robocop* (pic #2)

Sniper

20th June 2006, 15:54

$100 to the person who manages to fire a .50 IME DE one handed though..... :bleh:

Biohazard

20th June 2006, 16:15

Hmm i'd go for a Glock anyday over a Deagle...for a start the deagle has a shit sized mag compared to Glock (std mag). The Deagle cant survive a 5 story drop unlike the Glock and Sig, reliability over Hollywood favourites im afraid.

The Deagle is way too heavy for a pistol, if ya want weight for pistol whipping buy a fookin baseball bat :blip:

light

20th June 2006, 16:45

I guess you've been watching too many rap-crap (when do they start actually singing?) music videos and it's fried your mind??????

In many months and 10,s of thousands of miles I never saw road-rage (or any incident) that had a biker or *anybody pulling a gun (or anything).

Like i said "I guess" Having not ridden a Bike over in the states I wouldn't know.

As for watching rap-crap.... you got it right, its crap!

vs04

20th June 2006, 20:51

I log on to a cruiser site in the states quite often where one guy started a thread about guns and who carries them,i thought maybe 1/2 dozen would reply.Holy shit there was pages of posts about what gun goes best with what holster,guys posting pics of how and where they conceal them,how they would,nt hesitate to use them if needed,the whole thing was very matter of fact, comparable to a couple of mates down the pub discussing the last all black test,amazing.

qldzxr250a

20th June 2006, 21:05

ahhh wonderul land of AUS.....none of that stuff over here................:wait:

:chase: :chase: :chase:

and here it comes......

98tls

20th June 2006, 21:16

have a look at this then ........http://sandiego.craigslist.org/rnr/173188818.html

Oakie

20th June 2006, 21:32

I used to work with a woman who went out with a biker dude while she was on a working holiday in the States. It all went sour though when she found out he carried a gun when he rode and that he said he would use it "if he had to"

scumdog

20th June 2006, 22:06

ahhh wonderul land of AUS.....none of that stuff over here................:wait:

:chase: :chase: :chase:

and here it comes......

As you know - it does!!

Despite the toughest draconian (and most illogical) gun laws I have heard of.

Skyryder

20th June 2006, 22:13

Lovely people the Americans. They'll love you to death.............but criticise the second ammendment and they'll shoot you first.

Skyryder

Big Dave

20th June 2006, 22:19

As you know - it does!!

Despite the toughest draconian (and most illogical) gun laws I have heard of.

If we're talking aus - Nothing illogical about it. Unless you have to deal with vermin - Farmer or Cop - you can't have one. There is no reason to have one. You can deal with everything in the bush with a stick - so you don't need one.

Works for me.

imdying

20th June 2006, 22:36

If we're talking aus - Nothing illogical about it. Unless you have to deal with vermin - Farmer or Cop - you can't have one. There is no reason to have one. You can deal with everything in the bush with a stick - so you don't need one.

Works for me.So what happens when you come across a whole gaggle of Abo's? Can't possibly wipe em all out with just a stick!

Timber020

20th June 2006, 22:38

The US has a huge problem with guns and lawyers, and the problem is remarkably simular

You only need one when someone else might use one against you. And you dont know why or when this might happen. And for that reason there are so many paranoid and dangerous people about, its enough to make others paranoid and dangerous.

The us isnt full of gun nuts and gang bangers, actually I think per head of population its got no more of either than our nation. For the most part is full of good, honest and frankly wonderful people. But that doesnt make the news does it?

98tls

20th June 2006, 22:39

So what happens when you come across a whole gaggle of Abo's? Can't possibly wipe em all out with just a stick! :nono: why would you want to.

jazbug5

20th June 2006, 22:41

If we're talking aus - Nothing illogical about it. Unless you have to deal with vermin - Farmer or Cop - you can't have one. There is no reason to have one. You can deal with everything in the bush with a stick - so you don't need one.

Works for me.

Eh? We used to process loads of gun license applications every week when I worked in Brisbane- mostly rifles for pig hunting. Bloody confusing, and you did have to show you'd done an approved course within x time & then undergo a police check, but not impossible to get at all. Though if someone *really* wants a gun, not having a license generally does not stop them... the trouble is more that each person with a license etc owns at least one gun which can then be nicked and put into circulation...

imdying

20th June 2006, 22:47

:nono: why would you want to.Heh, don't make me add a smiley to that post :)

jazbug5

20th June 2006, 22:48

:nono: why would you want to.

Sarcasm... (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm)

Big Dave

20th June 2006, 22:49

mostly rifles for pig hunting. ..

Yeah, see - dealing with vermin.

Little johnny says - if you don't have a valid reason - you can't have one.

Still works for me.

Big Dave

20th June 2006, 22:53

So what happens when you come across a whole gaggle of Abo's? Can't possibly wipe em all out with just a stick!

The only thing Aboriginal people have tried to do to me when I came across them in the middle of nowhere was try to sell me artifacts or just say g'day.

I never hung around Redfern too much however. You guys reckon Manurewa is tough!

Ixion

20th June 2006, 22:59

But but but but --- that orstroyleen bush - it has SNAKES in it.

I mean SNAKES!. As in snakes!!!

Nasty poisonous sneaky SNAKES..

Sankes!

Did I mention that there are SNAKES.

Can hardly take on writhing hissing venom spitting poison-fang-dripping hordes of SNAKES with only a stick!

Need at least a machine gun! I mean, they're SNAKES.

I don't like snakes. (should be lotsa openings here for traffic cop jokes)

Big Dave

20th June 2006, 23:56

stomp every 10th step and they piss off before you get there.
and you can still deal with a stick.

Mind you - back home I wouldn't wander off into the long grass for a slash at a ride stop like the way i do here.

Circumspect we is.

Quartida

21st June 2006, 00:04

Gosh Ixion, you got a thing against snakes or something? ;)

Ixion

21st June 2006, 00:19

Well, I mean, they're SNNNNAAAAKKKES

Don't mind the non poisonous ones - cept the ones that try to squash you. But they don't have big signs on saying "I am poisonous", "I am safe". and even if they did, could you trust them? Sneaky little buggers, they'd probably think it was a great joke to switch signs.

I can just see it now, strolling through the Orstroylin bush armed only with a stick, and oh, look, there's a snake. Holding up a sign "Hi, I am a friendly harmless snake - honest I am".

So y' bend down to tickle it under the chin and PZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTT.

The sneaky buggers bitten you , and as you lie there writhing and dying, it wriggles away, off to the pub to chat up the busty barmaid (do snakes have tits? Well, whatever the snake version of hot totty is) and regale his mates with descriptions of the look on my face , laughing like mad.

While meanwhile the real harmless one is getting his jollies popping up in front of people waving the "Hi I am deadly poisonous kill you dead on the spot snake" sign, and watching them scream and turn somersaults trying to run away. Which must be rather a kick if you've grown up being the snake equivilent of the 65lb pipsqueak who always gets sand kicked in his face at the beach.(Prolly wears big spectacles too, and whatever the snake equivalent of a pocket protector is)

Not much consolation to me is it though? Being as I'm lying there, dead , like.

No, machine gun anything larger than an earthworm at sight I reckon is the only way. Sticks in orstorlyer be blowed. And sod Big Dave's little signs, I don't believe any of them.

Quartida

21st June 2006, 00:39

:rofl: That whole thing is hilarious, but this is the best:

But they don't have big signs on saying "I am poisonous", "I am safe". and even if they did, could you trust them? Sneaky little buggers, they'd probably think it was a great joke to switch signs.

Lol :D

Finn

21st June 2006, 01:16

stomp every 10th step and they piss off before you get there and you can still deal with a stick.

Is that the Abo's or the snakes? Do you still need a license for that?

Big Dave

21st June 2006, 01:30

Is that the Abo's or the snakes? Do you still need a license for that?

One of my best mates in Newcastle is as black an aussie as you can get.
Stevie 'black flash' Tapim and I dominated the local 'A' grade basketball comp for 3 seasons.
You couldn't kill him with a stick. I got in a few all-ins with him.

I have dealt to a red bellied black snake on my front path with a 9 iron however.

Up side is there are some cool reptiles - I had a neat Blue Tongue Lizard about a foot long lived in the same yard

NIKNAC

22nd June 2006, 14:33

haha, its funny coz like some of you's said its just normal conversation for them. there delemmar(hmmm do you recon i should put my glock on my shoulder harness or pants? ohw so hard to deside)

scumdog

23rd June 2006, 09:57

haha, its funny coz like some of you's said its just normal conversation for them. there delemmar(hmmm do you recon i should put my glock on my shoulder harness or pants? ohw so hard to deside)

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This post needs urgent help in all four of the above.

scumdog

23rd June 2006, 10:03

Yeah, see - dealing with vermin.

Little johnny says - if you don't have a valid reason - you can't have one.

Still works for me.

No problem with valid reason, THAT one is relatively common sense.

To go hunting, just like me.

Just bits like no semi-autos EVER, no pump-actions and at one stage in Queensland (may still apply) no calibres that are used by or have been used by the military anywhere (NO 303's 223's, 308's etc etc) WTF???

Their gun laws are only exceeded by their modified vehicl laws for being an ass.

Two reasons why I won't move to Aussie.