Tax rates [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

Marmoot

21st June 2006, 19:31

YEA!
GO RED COMMUNIST LABOUR PARTY!!!!!!!

As I mentioned before, they're even more communist that Chinese Communist Party.

At least in China the tax rate is lower........Screw the welfare, I don't even get any.

Hitcher

21st June 2006, 19:33

You all voted Labour to qualify for some taxpayer-funded benefit or other, so stop moaning.

Flatcap

21st June 2006, 19:35

You all voted Labour to qualify for some taxpayer-funded benefit or other, so stop moaning.

Bollocks

Give me my money back you thieving commies

sAsLEX

21st June 2006, 19:43

You all voted Labour to qualify for some taxpayer-funded benefit or other, so stop moaning.

you assume we voted labour why?

Hitcher

21st June 2006, 19:49

you assume we voted labour why?
Please don't make me repeat myself. It's cold and I've got a little voice in my head...

sAsLEX

21st June 2006, 19:57

Please don't make me repeat myself. It's cold and I've got a little voice in my head...

Some of us work for a living and voting labour did not help!

avgas

21st June 2006, 20:08

I voted for anti-govenment.....turns out my vote didnt count.....along with with the other 13% of NZ

Flatcap

21st June 2006, 20:13

I voted for anti-govenment.....turns out my vote didnt count.....along with with the other 13% of NZ

I'm all for government, just not the bunch of losers we are forced to put up with at the moment.

Give me my money you thieving bastards!

Biohazard

21st June 2006, 20:16

You all voted Labour to qualify for some taxpayer-funded benefit or other, so stop moaning.

Utter DOG SHIT have never and never will vote labour.....

Finn

21st June 2006, 20:21

I voted for anti-govenment.....turns out my vote didnt count.....along with with the other 13% of NZ

That 13% could have made all the difference. You should vote because then and only then are you allowed to complain about stuff.

sAsLEX

21st June 2006, 20:24

That 13% could have made all the difference. You should vote because then and only then are you allowed to complain about stuff.

we all know you voted aye

Finn

21st June 2006, 20:30

we all know you voted aye

Not only did I vote, I ran a private campaign. I talked to staff about what they felt were the real issues facing NZ and showed which party would best look after their interests.

I managed to change several people's vote and fired the rest.

Flatcap

21st June 2006, 20:32

Not only did I vote, I ran a private campaign. I talked to staff about what they felt were the real issues facing NZ and showed which party would best look after their interests.

I managed to change several people's vote and fired the rest.

I'm suprised that anyone in Gore would vote labour...

Finn

21st June 2006, 20:38

I'm suprised that anyone in Gore would vote labour...

Fuck off mate, we're all red necks down here. Mt Albert fell to Labour cause of a deal between Helen Clark and Immigration.

Flatcap

21st June 2006, 20:42

Fuck off mate, we're all red necks down here. Mt Albert fell to Labour cause of a deal between Helen Clark and Immigration.

My point exactly.....you must come up so we can pay Auntie Helen a visit...

Finn

21st June 2006, 20:50

My point exactly.....you must come up so we can pay Auntie Helen a visit...

Would you be impressed if I made it to your house in 10 minutes from Gore?

Flatcap

21st June 2006, 20:53

Oh Christ - you're not in Jaffaville are you!

Finn

21st June 2006, 21:06

Oh Christ - you're not in Jaffaville are you!

fraid so...

paturoa

21st June 2006, 21:20

geez, $45k AFTER tax vs $43k BEFORE????? why are we still here?

and back to the first post..... huh?????

Crisis management

21st June 2006, 21:28

At a wild guess, something to do with tax comparison between NZ & Aussie tax rates (was on the news tonight).

bane

21st June 2006, 22:08

At a wild guess, something to do with tax comparison between NZ & Aussie tax rates (was on the news tonight).

How bout the fact that an Australian financial institution has released a report stating that at least 99% of NZers would be better off tax wise if they worked in Oz.

Officially, if you earn over $180k a year, tax situation is better in NZ (there you go Finn, a reason for ya to stay in NZ, well compared to Oz anyways)

onearmedbandit

21st June 2006, 22:26

Oh I doubt Finn pays himself that much.......

Mental Trousers

21st June 2006, 22:31

Utter DOG SHIT have never and never will vote labour.....

Think you'll find the Labour Party here is a bit different to what you're used to. Having said that, they have many similarities other than their name.

Virago

21st June 2006, 23:49

geez, $45k AFTER tax vs $43k BEFORE????? why are we still here?
Bye-bye.....:bye:

Biohazard

22nd June 2006, 09:52

Think you'll find the Labour Party here is a bit different to what you're used to. Having said that, they have many similarities other than their name.

True-but there manifesto's and ideals are extremely similar, which certainly doesn't make me a happy person. I never agree with a nanny and income support system, only f*ckwit lefties have this view... I grew up in The Thatcher era in UK, our armies had never been so busy :blip:

Seriously though - there is no room for romantic Robin Hood theries - it's all hog sh*t. If they can't earn it, then ya cant have it (using your social economic standing as an excuse is a joke tbh) -GET OFF YA LAZY ARSES AND GET A JOB. Its evolution people - 2nd is the first looser, hand outs from the government are frowned upon by good hard working tax payers.

Anyway enough of my ranting...............

Long live the far right :nya:

grandpa_dave

22nd June 2006, 10:00

placidfemme

22nd June 2006, 10:06

When is the next election?

sAsLEX

22nd June 2006, 10:10

When is the next election?

Get enough people together we can force one cant we?

Ixion

22nd June 2006, 10:14

Nope. Only by petition to the Governor General, but he can ignore it.

placidfemme

22nd June 2006, 10:16

Nope. Only by petition to the Governor General, but he can ignore it.

Do you think enough people would sign the petition? How many signatures do you thing it would need?

sAsLEX

22nd June 2006, 10:20

Nope. Only by petition to the Governor General, but he can ignore it.

Thats what i meant, but if say 60% of New Zealand wanted an election again would he/she say no?

ManDownUnder

22nd June 2006, 10:23

When is the next erection?

Now that's a pointed question!

Ixion

22nd June 2006, 10:24

Who knows. The residual power of the Sovereign to sack a government and/or disoolve Parliament against the wish of the government has never been tested in this country. And only tested in living memory in Australia when Sir John Kerr sacked Whitlam , and (I think) in Rhodesia when they rebelled.

I think you'd need more than 60% though.

placidfemme

22nd June 2006, 10:28

Now that's a pointed question!

lol I had to scroll up to check i didn't actually write that :blah:

ManDownUnder

22nd June 2006, 10:30

lol I had to scroll up to check i didn't actually write that :blah:

tsk tsk tsk - you make it sound like it'd deliberatly misquote you. Tammy - don't you trust me? :whistle:

sAsLEX

22nd June 2006, 10:30

Is it sacking the Government? I mean surely they are doing such a fine job they would just be reelected in to power ....tui anyone?

ManDownUnder

22nd June 2006, 10:31

Do you think enough people would sign the petition? How many signatures do you thing it would need?

You'd need about 500 signatories... each with a gun...

... and a LOT of luck

placidfemme

22nd June 2006, 10:33

You'd need about 500 signatories... each with a gun...

... and a LOT of luck

lol well I'm sure that maori dude who shot the flag would sign it... thats one... 499 to go

ManDownUnder

22nd June 2006, 10:33

Is it sacking the Government? I mean surely they are doing such a fine job they would just be reelected in to power ....tui anyone?

Tragically, it's a combination of
1) "Who would do the least worst job"
2) "What's in it for me - ooo look baubles!"

I don't hold much hope for the strategic prospects of many democracies. They only thing really pushing them along is the incentive of private business to make money as best they can - despite the moronic obstacles blocking the path.

Swoop

22nd June 2006, 10:45

10 characters.

Ixion

22nd June 2006, 10:47

D'y' realise that every poster in this thread could probably be charged with sedition?

Where are Hitcher and Mental Trousers when there's SERIOUS law breaking going down, eh.

chickenfunkstar

22nd June 2006, 11:19

There's a lot more to the tax rates issue than "cut taxes and then everything will be all good", as anyone who can do a bit of IS-LM-BP analysis will tell you.

Cutting taxes when you've got lower unemployment than the natural rate is going to do more harm than good. I suspect if National had won the election we'd all be moaning about high inflation and the prospect of economic downturn. Our net exports would be harmed as well. Notice how no other party said 'fair enough we'll cut tax rates but were gonna have to cut spending as well'? Not even ACT.

I'm all for tax cuts, provided they're implemented when needed instead of a Naive bribe to get people to vote for you in an election.

Marmoot

22nd June 2006, 11:24

Cutting taxes when you've got lower unemployment than the natural rate is going to do more harm than good. I suspect if National had won the election we'd all be moaning about high inflation and the prospect of economic downturn. Our net exports would be harmed as well.

That sounds familiar.....oh yea, right. The current inflation that I feel everyday IS high enough. Not according to the government figures, I know. But, hey, if petrol and food have risen by more than 20% in the last 2 years, I don't understand how inflation can be said as less than 3%. What are they measuring for that figure?

And as for exports, our high value exports: education and tourism has steadily declined during the past year and there is no sign of respite.

We ARE in the economic downturn.
Prospect of economic downturn is way better than being in one.

chickenfunkstar

22nd June 2006, 11:35

That sounds familiar.....oh yea, right. The current inflation that I feel everyday IS high enough. Not according to the government figures, I know. But, hey, if petrol and food have risen by more than 20% in the last 2 years, I don't understand how inflation can be said as less than 3%. What are they measuring for that figure?

And as for exports, our high value exports: education and tourism has steadily declined during the past year and there is no sign of respite.

We ARE in the economic downturn.
Prospect of economic downturn is way better than being in one.

Yeah, fair enough it is badish at the moment. If we were to further stimulate aggregate demand, its fairly obvious what would happen. Don Brash is (was) a smart guy but I get the feeling he's telling poeple what they want to hear in order to gain more votes, rather than promoting policies which would be good for the economy.

placidfemme

22nd June 2006, 12:06

D'y' realise that every poster in this thread could probably be charged with sedition?

Whats sedition?

Ixion

22nd June 2006, 12:11

Whats sedition?

Criticising the governemnt. A serious crime punishable by up to 7 years imprisionment.
Not kidding, dude got sent down for it a few weeks ago.

Sniper

22nd June 2006, 12:13

Criticising the governemnt. A serious crime punishable by up to 7 years imprisionment.
Not kidding, dude got sent down for it a few weeks ago.

Gotta love freedom of speech......... :shutup:

placidfemme

22nd June 2006, 12:13

Criticising the governemnt. A serious crime punishable by up to 7 years imprisionment.
Not kidding, dude got sent down for it a few weeks ago.

Well thats a little different. He put an axe through some PM's window... we're just talking and no-one is threatening to take action of a bad nature...

sAsLEX

22nd June 2006, 12:25

Criticising the governemnt. A serious crime punishable by up to 7 years imprisionment.
Not kidding, dude got sent down for it a few weeks ago.

Got to love that moan about the government 7 years

rape pillage and kiddie fiddle 6 years out in 3

justice for ya

Ixion

22nd June 2006, 12:32

Well thats a little different. He put an axe through some PM's window... we're just talking and no-one is threatening to take action of a bad nature...

don't need the axe, though, that was just icing on the cake. Talking is enough.

ManDownUnder

22nd June 2006, 12:36

Whats seduction?

A good one liner like ... "how YOU doin'"

ManDownUnder

22nd June 2006, 12:39

Criticising the governemnt.

Err no...

It's initiating or causing an uprising against the State.

Criticisng the Govt if fine, doing something that'll cause others to overthrow the govt isn't

Example
"Meeting 5:00 the pub near Parliament, bring petrol" would be sedicious.

Helen Clarke is a **** would be defamatory

Labour couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery would be true...I mean critical.

Marmoot

22nd June 2006, 13:07

A good one liner like ... "how YOU doin'"

If that's a seduction, you're hypersexed.........:blah:

ManDownUnder

22nd June 2006, 13:12

If that's a seduction, you're hypersexed.........:blah:

You make it sound like it's a surprise!

Marmoot

22nd June 2006, 13:15

You make it sound like it's a surprise!

because I thought you're celibate

ManDownUnder

22nd June 2006, 13:19

because I thought you're celibate

Close - I celebrate - you clearly misheard me

Biohazard

22nd June 2006, 13:46

Aww.....Come on.....Alll those people on the benefit probably pay more tax than those who work!!!! (Certainly as a percentage of their income)

Just think of all that Tobacco and Alcohol tax!!!

Save money....Bring back the Death Penalty
Why do prisons need Sky? Send someone to prison....Rehabilitate them (This means giving personal one-on-one tuition....Appartently chemistry is a favourite with inmates....)
Now THIS system works almost as well as Auckland public transport!

Sorry mate , but I dont agree. The amount of time they will spend under state medcial care out numbers there puny habit $ input. Smokers get cancer FACT Drinkers ruin there livers FACT, 2nd hand smoking is again a major money eater in healths services across the globe......

So i reacon spending $1 on a bullett and then using it on is the cheaper option all round....

I have completly forgotten, what I was going to type as i've been on the phone since i started the post...confused "not half as much as I am".