Shell petrol on Fair Go now! (21 June) [Archive]

T.W.R

21st June 2006, 19:54

its a two parter .. first car on 12 litres of mobil fuel has done 174 ks ... shell is on later

same car two tanks :yes: 1.7lt civic

two completely empty tanks which are filled with equal amounts of mobil & shell

moneys on the mobil, cause they are running the car to empty on each attempt, but they didn't drain the fuel line at the start, yet they will on the 2nd run :blip:

Lazy7

21st June 2006, 19:57

they running 98 or 95 mobile gas?

that would be the only difference.

hardly a fair test - only way to do it would be to set it to cruise control 100kms around an overal track. It is false advertising however if shell are suggesting their fuel will make a car go significantly further.

chanceyy

21st June 2006, 20:03

sAsLEX

21st June 2006, 20:05

Same course, same distance, same driving conditions, shell went 7 kms further ... BIG savings ... yeah right ...

still opposite to what everyone on this site has returned with real world driving conditions wont touch the stuff, mainly as there is none on my normal routes, cept the clevdon one

Edbear

21st June 2006, 20:06

NUTBAR

21st June 2006, 20:07

I wonder how much gas you would use getting to a shell station?

T.W.R

21st June 2006, 20:07

:cry: bugger ! sweet F/A difference :whocares:

Hitcher

21st June 2006, 20:09

Same course, same distance, same driving conditions, shell went 7 kms further ... BIG savings ... yeah right ...
What's that as a percentage difference?

Just guessing here, but assuming that a Civic has a 45 litre tank and returns 16km/l, that's a range of 720km. A 7km variation on this is 1%. That, gentle readers, is fuck all difference.

sunhuntin

21st June 2006, 20:10

I agree. It was so close that any slight variable could make the difference. I don't doubt Fair Go's integrity, I think they really tried to be even, but yeah, as Ian said, not worth going too far out of your way to fill up with Shell.

haha....i go furthur to by bp gas....theres a shell about 10 mins from my house that i ride by every single day. theres also a bp about 5 mins from my home, but the staff there are wankers and treat me, another bp staff member, like shit, so i wonder how they treat other customers.

sAsLEX

21st June 2006, 20:22

but the staff there are wankers and treat me, another bp staff member, like shit, so i wonder how they treat other customers.

your not really a customer but an employee of the firm so .......

Madness

21st June 2006, 20:25

It's enough of a difference that they can't be sued or slagged off yet reel in the $$$ from poor unsuspecting motorists. I bet there are (were) plenty of codgers out there driving for miles just bo buy $10 worth of the stuff.

oldrider

21st June 2006, 20:29

Hardly worth the fuss true but add on fly buys and credit card cash backs etc and you are still right on a Tui savings moment. Yeah right.
OK it suits me because I was doing it anyway where it suits. :yes: Cheers John.

Jantar

21st June 2006, 20:33

What's that as a percentage difference?

Just guessing here, but assuming that a Civic has a 45 litre tank and returns 16km/l, that's a range of 720km. A 7km variation on this is 1%. That, gentle readers, is fuck all difference.

They used a completely dry tank and put in 12 litres of Mobil for 174 km. When it ran out they rteplaced the tank with another completely empty tank and filled with 12 litres of shell for 181 km. 7 km difference works out at 4% difference.

Madness

21st June 2006, 20:35

theres a bp about 5 mins from my home, but the staff there are wankers

Same here. I had a moment with a staff member at my local BP. They no longer enjoy lining their till with my money. I told the guy to go fuck himself as I left that day, He took down my rego as I drove away. Retard.

Flatcap

21st June 2006, 20:37

I never use Shell - there are hardly any about and their service is shite.

Caltex is the way to go, and the nice Indian man who runs my local lets me fill up without prepaying

Karma

21st June 2006, 20:42

Mobil is good stuff...

98 octane, and pay at pump... can't beat it.

chanceyy

21st June 2006, 21:44

As I use diesel, petrol is not a concern .. & yes loyalty cards play their part, we have two shell servo's here one offers damn good service, the other shit .... the former is a newer brighter bigger shop, as for the other brands service is a high priority in one but not in others .. so I get my diesel where i can get loyalty points as well ;)

skidMark

21st June 2006, 21:56

i don't give a rats ass how i'm treated as long as i get the best value for money..... and i generally don't go out of my way for a servo

but i always seem to run out of gas in my local area so 19 times out of 20 i end up at the local bp .....they give good service.....and i also go out of the way cus i like going for longer rides why go direct when you can detour?

but in saying that even if they gave shit service i would still go there....because most times i'm well onto reserve before i bother going near a servo and pushing a 160+ kilo bike to the nearest servo is not my preffered option, instead of going 1 km off course and knowing ill get where i want to and i get that extra little bit more of a ride....ipod cranking sunny's and a balaclave...ohhh the luxury...hate having to take all the shit off to go into a servo you can't have a helmet on so you have to take off your helmet...which means i have to take off the balaclave or it looks like i'm robbing them..

i spose thats another reason i always end up at the local bp because since they know me they don't mind me leaving all my helmet etc. on

crap babbling over... as you were

The Stranger

21st June 2006, 22:07

Same course, same distance, same driving conditions, shell went 7 kms further ... BIG savings ... yeah right ...

Yeah, but seriously you would not expect a big gain would you?

Any gain by rights should only be incremental.

James Deuce

21st June 2006, 22:11

Tinfoil hat's in the post swanny.

chanceyy

21st June 2006, 22:13

Yeah, but seriously you would not expect a big gain would you?

Any gain by rights should only be incremental.

Big savings .. no that would be pure fantasy, but it still free to dream..

Mind you was damn pleased to see price drop today just prior to me filling up the truck, esp when i was going to fill up last nite :D

Karma

21st June 2006, 22:17

Mind you was damn pleased to see price drop today just prior to me filling up the truck, esp when i was going to fill up last nite :D

three price increases, one price decrease.

Nothing to get excited about.

skidMark

21st June 2006, 22:21

just a really stooooopid thought.....

in theory it is putting in the exact same amount of gas so for shells gas to make you go further you would have to get more power out of the same amount of fuel.....to use less throttle or watever therfore using less fuel.....ummmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

:scratch:

chanceyy

21st June 2006, 22:30

three price increases, one price decrease.

Nothing to get excited about.

nope but after being away on holiday i take the savings where i can .. :D

R6_kid

21st June 2006, 22:39

even if said fuel did give you more power or economy it probably wouldnt be that much better for you at the end of the day unless you were conservative about it.

When broadband came out a lot of people were conned by the 'its faster so you spend less time' kinda line, which is bullshit. Everyone knows that at the end of the day you did more for longer.

Same with better fuel for the same price, if it did work, you'd probably end up riding harder knowing that you'd have more fun for the same price and economy as the other stuff.

Ixion

21st June 2006, 23:11

Assorted posts of pointless drivel moved accordingly

ZeroIndex

22nd June 2006, 07:05

I'm not fussed which petrol station I go to.. I'll go to Shell if it's the only thing near me at the time(DX Mail).. I know where the petrol stations are when I'm working (my route), I'll always go to the closest one (don't care which brand).. just won't go to BP (98 fuel for the ct isn't worth it, I run it on 95, which actually goes further than 91)..

Proven theory (for the ct at least)..
if you use 91, you need to fill up more, if you use 95, the gas lasts longer (long enough to make about $1 difference every fill up (that's a $5 fill up)..

James Deuce

22nd June 2006, 07:24

Proven theory (for the ct at least)..
if you use 91, you need to fill up more, if you use 95, the gas lasts longer (long enough to make about $1 difference every fill up (that's a $5 fill up)..

Uh-huh.

Let's see the proof. That's an anecdote.

Lazy7

22nd June 2006, 09:15

does anybody run their bike on 91 anyway?

Hitcher

22nd June 2006, 09:19

does anybody run their bike on 91 anyway?
Yep. Times two. And all previously-owned bikes as well.

Sniper

22nd June 2006, 10:26

Fair Go is a waste of time. They couldnt even get the bosses name right or our website when they did a story on us...

Besides, I dont pay for petrol, thats what the company is for.

22nd June 2006, 10:41

Hey how come they dropped the octain level on 96 to 95?

Motu

22nd June 2006, 10:49

It takes 0.0037% more ink or paint to produce a 6 than a 5 - by changing the 6 to a 5 over the course of the financial year there should be a 0.004% increase in profits....

oldrider

22nd June 2006, 11:36

Mobil is good stuff...

98 octane, and pay at pump... can't beat it.
Is that right, I thought only BP have the 98 octane fuel.?

Karma

22nd June 2006, 11:38

Nah man, it's like Mobil 8000, the purple stuff... is supposedly 98.

merv

22nd June 2006, 12:20

does anybody run their bike on 91 anyway?

Yep the book says my VFR can run on it so it does. No problems and ride at near enough legal speeds it does 20km/litre.

sunhuntin

22nd June 2006, 12:24

your not really a customer but an employee of the firm so .......

i am a customer when im in street clothes putting petrol in mums car. they know me as a staff member though, as we rotate sites. plus, since im an employee, doesnt that mean i should get at least polite responses? lol.
i also run scuffy on 91...was going to experiment with the higher octane, but the price when too high for me to bother. 91 gets us from a to b with no hassle. lol. if i run outta gas, i will use whatever is closest...i once hit reserve getting back into turakina, where the only station is a caltex [i think?] so i had to use that. i did use to use shell, but the staff and site all got a makeover....they are way less helpful there now.

ManDownUnder

22nd June 2006, 12:33

does anybody run their bike on 91 anyway?

100% of the time and she doesn't miss a beat
MDU

Flyingpony

22nd June 2006, 15:41

does anybody run their bike on 91 anyway?
Always have.

Bend-it

23rd June 2006, 08:56

They used a completely dry tank and put in 12 litres of Mobil for 174 km. When it ran out they rteplaced the tank with another completely empty tank and filled with 12 litres of shell for 181 km. 7 km difference works out at 4% difference.

That's right. While we're groaning about 2 cent increases, 4% fuel saving is like having 6.5 cents off each litre of petrol. Not bad when you think about it that way...

On a 16litre tank that's all of $1.04!! Woohoo!! :doobey: I'm grabbing all I can get, but don't ride more than 500m each way out of your way to get it! :nya:

Str8 Jacket

23rd June 2006, 09:08

does anybody run their bike on 91 anyway?

I have to otherwise my bike kicks up a stink...

Marmoot

23rd June 2006, 12:29

mainly as there is none on my normal routes, cept the clevdon one

Makes you go further, isn't it? :yes:

Pixie

25th June 2006, 13:50

I agree. It was so close that any slight variable could make the difference. I don't doubt Fair Go's integrity, I think they really tried to be even, but yeah, as Ian said, not worth going too far out of your way to fill up with Shell.
Fair Go's integrity?
Hah!
On the same programme,they put a camera in front of a TV screen,on an angle,to show that viewers couldn't read the fine print on a TV ad.
Rather than show the actual ad on screen and prove themselves fools.

Jantar

25th June 2006, 14:03

Fair Go's integrity?
Hah!
On the same programme,they put a camera in front of a TV screen,on an angle,to show that viewers couldn't read the fine print on a TV ad.
Rather than show the actual ad on screen and prove themselves fools.

When the ad was live it was still impossible to read the fine print. Also, the fine print was not on screen long enough for anyone to read it right through even if it was legible.

scumdog

25th June 2006, 14:14

does anybody run their bike on 91 anyway?

I thought it was sold just for washing greasy engine parts??

Highlander

25th June 2006, 14:20

I fill my bike at Shell nearly all the time, as I ride past a couple between home and work regardless of which way I go.

Used to get 340 - 350 Km from FULL to reserve every time.
Now get 310 -320 Km before reserve.
Don't think my riding style is changed in the last month or so.

Makes it about 10% reduction is fuel economy on the "Go further" formula.
Was surprised to see the Fair Go result, not at all what I have experienced.

sunhuntin

25th June 2006, 14:22

When the ad was live it was still impossible to read the fine print. Also, the fine print was not on screen long enough for anyone to read it right through even if it was legible.

is this the ad for the ringtones? cos i could read those, easily.

Highlander

25th June 2006, 14:26

is this the ad for the ringtones? cos i could read those, easily.

But Jantars old enough to be your dad and spends all day surrounded by computers :nya:

avgas

25th June 2006, 14:45

I have to otherwise my bike kicks up a stink...
Try motul oil, worked for me.
5000 or 6000 or something (i cant remember anymore).

sunhuntin

25th June 2006, 19:16

But Jantars old enough to be your dad and spends all day surrounded by computers :nya:

needs to get himself a big screen tv with BIG PRINT, lol.

Jantar

25th June 2006, 19:47

But Jantars old enough to be your dad and spends all day surrounded by computers :nya:

Come on now Highlander. Don't make me out to be younger than I really am. My youngest son is still a year older than Sunhuntin. But I still pass my pilots licence eyesight test each year. :rockon:

sunhuntin

26th June 2006, 20:29

Come on now Highlander. Don't make me out to be younger than I really am. My youngest son is still a year older than Sunhuntin. But I still pass my pilots licence eyesight test each year. :rockon:

lol. nicely done, sir. lmfao.

pilots license? you for real, or joking around? ive got a friend whod like to learn to fly....any advice?

Jantar

26th June 2006, 20:34

lol. nicely done, sir. lmfao.

pilots license? you for real, or joking around? ive got a friend whod like to learn to fly....any advice?

yes, I do fly. As do quite a few others on here. Terbang likes planes with large jet engines under each wing, whereas I prefer either a single engine in front, or better still, No engines at all.

sunhuntin

27th June 2006, 12:08

yes, I do fly. As do quite a few others on here. Terbang likes planes with large jet engines under each wing, whereas I prefer either a single engine in front, or better still, No engines at all.

ooo, gliders! must admit, i have wondered how the hell you land those?
went to ohakea over the weekend....was not what i expected. actually, was a waste of time and money! best bit was the two planes on the runway, lol. inside it was nothing but photos and stuff.

ZeroIndex

27th June 2006, 17:50

Where can i buy mothballs from? i watched mythbusters last night, and the nepthylane in the mothballs jumps up the octane rating of the petrol a fair amount (used to put it in my Renault back in South Africa)

Hitcher

27th June 2006, 18:53

Where can i buy mothballs from?
There's a moth castration place somewhere in Cuba Street. Failing that, most hardware stores should be able to see you right.

ZeroIndex

27th June 2006, 19:51

There's a moth castration place somewhere in Cuba Street. Failing that, most hardware stores should be able to see you right.
hahaha, very funny.. will check out the hardware store tomorrow (if i remember).. will let everyone know how it goes..

scumdog

27th June 2006, 23:41

hahaha, very funny.. will check out the hardware store tomorrow (if i remember).. will let everyone know how it goes..

Be sure and do that - if an engine can be destroyed by putting mothballs in th petrol then I would rather it was not mine....

SARGE

27th June 2006, 23:51

i wouldnt use Shell t wash my tools in

Jamezo

27th June 2006, 23:52

is this the ad for the ringtones? cos i could read those, easily.
Is there anybody who paid for those who isn't mentally retarded?

NSR-Dan

28th June 2006, 03:05

ZeroIndex

28th June 2006, 06:59

Be sure and do that - if an engine can be destroyed by putting mothballs in th petrol then I would rather it was not mine....
They Mythbuster tested it.. the only thing that would blow up an engine was putting bleach in the oil.. pretty much nothing in the petrol 'made it go boom' and the mothballs you could hear a 'vroom vroom' style change in the engine..

ZeroIndex

28th June 2006, 07:00

i recon it would be more accurate if you took 2 of the same car, brand new of the ship, get a good garage to tune the cars exactly the same. then fill both cars up with say $20, and then idle them both at 4000 rpm, and see which one runs out of gas first
they won't do that, because Shell have paid a lot in advertising that their petrol lasts longer.. could you imagine the negative publicity when they lose? :D