The Flu [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

oldguy

24th June 2006, 19:22

Am just recovering from a bout of the flu, been feeling like I just want to die, 3 days off work and only just starting to feel alot better, sat on my front step and just injoyed the sun today.
Been the best day in a long while, would love to be out on the bike but better to stay home and warm.
Anyway went to the doctor's the other day, as he gave me the check over suggest next year I get a flu injection, come in around March that will give the vaccine time to do what it does before the colder winter weather.
I know some companys are paying to have there employees vaccinated, the people Ive spoken to that have had it say it works, this got me think if they can make a vaccine to protect you for a season, why cant they just make a cure, or is it just drug companys, if you make a cure than you cant make anymore money on that, but then they just create a new strain. what yous think.

Scorpygirl

24th June 2006, 19:30

Sorry to hear you haven't been well and I hope you get better soon. I have had a cough now for about two weeks and it is only today that I haven't had several major coughing fits.

The reason that they can't find cure-all vaccine is that there are so many diffferent strains of the flu caused by a number of different viruses. That is why you often hear about say the Hong Kong A virus or in 1918 it was the Spanish flu virus.

Hope this explains the reason why they only do a vaccine for one winter season.

Zed

24th June 2006, 19:36

I can sympathise with you old fella, I've been crook with it for several days now. It came on quite suddenly Thursday night and I was bedridden until this morning, no energy at all. Friday night was one of the worst I can remember coughing and spluttering and feeling extremely miserable. Still feeling sickly now but as experience has taught me I'll just have to wait it out...:bye:

chanceyy

24th June 2006, 19:39

James Deuce

24th June 2006, 20:30

James Deuce

24th June 2006, 20:32

hey guys ..

immunofort by thompsons is great to take on a daily basis, double up the dose if you feel the flu coming on .. really does stop it in its tracks ..

can get it at the chemist .. yeah its a natural product

What and rob us guys of a chance to moan pathetically while the womenfolk (who incidentally also have the flu) keep on keeping on?

Bloody girlies and their natural remedies. We burned you people at the stake and we can do it again.

chanceyy

24th June 2006, 20:39

What and rob us guys of a chance to moan pathetically while the womenfolk (who incidentally also have the flu) keep on keeping on?

Bloody girlies and their natural remedies. We burned you people at the stake and we can do it again.

Laffing typical blardy men .. would rather you healthy cause by gawd damn you the worst blardy patients ever .. we can burn you men at the stake too :D :nya:

oldguy

24th June 2006, 20:48

If you have the flu jab, you had better be in A1 condition, because the immune system response will leave you open to every virus your workmates leave on the toilet seat, door handle, tap, keyboard, mouse, or unwashed hand.

I personally think that all virus vaccinations do is breed a tougher, more deadly virus.
I sort a think that way,so your saying I should just tough it out, the only thing Ive taken for this F*****N flu is Brufen tabs for the massive headache, other than that been in bed trying to sleep it out but the older you get the harder it is to shake.

Street Gerbil

24th June 2006, 20:49

This year's strain was rather nasty. My temperature went upward of 101' (for the first time in quarter century) and stayed there for three days. I really hoped that a madman with an axe would break into my house and put me out of my misery.

merv

24th June 2006, 21:06

I hope that you are an oldie Street Gerbil and are talking fahrenheit and not that modern celsius stuff at 101'.

Insanity_rules

24th June 2006, 21:39

Yeah the latest flu really sux, I'm down with it too. I want to die!!!!!

Virago

24th June 2006, 22:48

The 'flu jab is well worth it. I've got it every year for the last 5 years, and been 'flu-free.

But be warned - it doesn't stop you from getting "Kiwi Flu" (also known as the Common Cold........)

Shadows

24th June 2006, 23:35

The 'flu jab is well worth it. I've got it every year for the last 5 years, and been 'flu-free.

But be warned - it doesn't stop you from getting "Kiwi Flu" (also known as the Common Cold........)

Second that

Skyryder

24th June 2006, 23:46

I'm not normaly against vaccinations but about three years ago I got the flu jab and got as sick as a dog. Never again. I usualy take a course of Buccalene Berna. This is a course of tablets. Been doing it off and on for years. What flue and cold symptoms I do get don't last long and are never very bad.

Skyryder

Skyryder

24th June 2006, 23:53

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I personally think that all virus vaccinations do is breed a tougher, more deadly virus.

That's antibiotics. A vaccination allows the immune system 'recognition' of a viruse. Antibodies are produced from the vaccine so when a full blown virus 'attack' occurs the appropiate arsanal from the immune system can be deployed so as to defeat the virus.

Skyryder

u4ea

24th June 2006, 23:54

usually get the flu jab every two years,found i get the flu if i have it every year..............?so anyhoo this year i have taken bukalene burner and so far so good.....................hope all you lot that have copt the loogie feel better soon:bye: :bye: :bye: :sunny: :yes:

Skyryder

24th June 2006, 23:54

.

I personally think that all virus vaccinations do is breed a tougher, more deadly virus.

That's antibiotics. A vaccination allows the immune system 'recognition' of a viruse. Antibodies are produced as a result of the the vaccine so when a full blown virus 'attack' occurs the appropiate arsanal from the immune system can be deployed so as to defeat the virus.

Skyryder

yungatart

25th June 2006, 09:36

I've never had a flu vaccine despite working in hospitals, rest homes and schools - breeding grounds for germies extraordinaire, all of them. I get offered a free flu jab every year but only the staff who get the jabs get the flu. Me, being a smoker and supposedly more likely to fall victim to the lurg, I've had the flu twice in my life, once at 7 and again at 23. Been flu free for 20 + years - must be from strong stock or summat....

James Deuce

25th June 2006, 11:18

That's antibiotics. A vaccination allows the immune system 'recognition' of a viruse. Antibodies are produced as a result of the the vaccine so when a full blown virus 'attack' occurs the appropiate arsanal from the immune system can be deployed so as to defeat the virus.

Skyryder

Err not quite. Antibiotics are for treating bacterial infections. Viruses are a completely different kettle of fish. They use your cells to reproduce and are capable of rapidly mutating in response to an immune system defense. They fool your immune system into making an infection response so they can utilise the extra energy you put into fighting infection to reproduce even faster. In the meantime you are open to secondary bacterial infections.

Then when you die, the virus doesn't, unlike bacteria.

The flu vaccine is an attempt to teach your immune system to recognise the virus. It can make you open to secondary bacterial infections, but viruses cannot be treated with anitbiotics, only the secondary infections that can result from the flu.

oldguy

25th June 2006, 11:30

yungatart

25th June 2006, 11:33

Thanks for that, I don't remember ever having been accused of "good breeding" before..LOL, hope you are feeling better soon

oldguy

25th June 2006, 11:47

Thanks, its a lovely day would like to get out on the bike but don't want to chance it

Motu

25th June 2006, 13:20

I seldom get the flu - but I sure got it this time! Maybe mowing the lawns in the rain last sunday was not a good idea after all.While I was still out there doing the edges the wife came home after a weekend in Auckland,and nearly fell out of the car,went straight bed and stayed there for 3 days.

My worst night was friday night with the cough that never stops - my boys have it too,and they cough until they vomit.I was very improved on saturday,but still sore all over and coughing.Today I'm much better and on the mend....but I'll stay inside and take it easy.It's been a tough few days,specialy as my boys have it too,the younger really bad.We had a lot of people around last night,and my daughter is down for the weekend....so some good things to keep my mind off it.No bikes though - I was supposed to ride in a trial today,and thought I might go up to watch and be a dogs body...but discression voted an inside day,although it was nice in the sun this morning with the frost still on the ground.

Virago

25th June 2006, 13:34

........only the staff who get the jabs get the flu........
I've yet to see it myself. However, you can still get a bad cold, and claim to have "the flu". It's fairly common for people who have a cold to think they have the flu. It's not until you get the real thing that you realise the difference.......

And to bury another myth - no you can't get the flu from getting the jab.

Skyryder

25th June 2006, 14:03

And to bury another myth - no you can't get the flu from getting the jab.

Perhaps not but I'm having a bit of a rethink on this.

http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=16717

Skyryder

Squeak the Rat

26th June 2006, 09:35

Perhaps not but I'm having a bit of a rethink on this.

http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=16717

Skyryder

aluminum hydroxide & parkinsons.

Aluminium Hydroxide is also in indigestion remedies (mylanta etc), anti-perspirants and some other things which i can't remember also contain Aluminium products. How many people with parkinsons used to gob back the gaviscon every night?

ps - don't ride the bike if you have the real flu. Motor skills, concentration and co-ordination are usually impaired....

MSTRS

26th June 2006, 09:59

It's fairly common for people who have a cold to think they have the flu. It's not until you get the real thing that you realise the difference.......
That it is...got a sore head, blocked nose & 'nasty' cough....*must be the flu*
I laugh at people like that. Had the flu only once in my life, somewhere around 1982/3 - everything hurt, was off work for 12 days, lost nearly 10 kilos and wasn't really 'right' for about 3 months. That's the flu.

Str8 Jacket

26th June 2006, 10:10

About 5 or 6 years ago I had my first (and last) ever flu jab... about 6 days later I was in Hospital with pneumonia, ive never been so crook in my life!
Now I cook dinner with at least 3 or 4 bits of garlic and have managed to avoid the flu so far, just wish I could get rid of the sinusitis now! :(

Motu

26th June 2006, 10:22

Yeah,it pisses me off when people say they've got the flu,when all it is,is a bad cold,it must sound better when they ring in sick.I've had the flu about 3 times in my life,you sure know you've got more than a cold! Every muscle,bone and joint in my body hurts,and it feels like someone has gone over my skin with sandpaper.On saturday morning my youngest boy was crying because his knees hurt,it was kind of a worry - but one of his sisters used to have the same thing...she was down for the weekend and was able to care for him,knowing his problem first hand.He had no other pains at all.Then at one stage I was getting shooting pains in my knees,only for a couple of seconds at a time,but quite painfull.If it was all concentrated in his knees the poor little bugger must of been in pain alright.

James Deuce

26th June 2006, 10:27

Been in hospital twice with the flu in the last 6 months, both times on top of tonsilitis. I had an influenza variant 6 times in the second half of last year. Each time was 4-7 days off work. Cost me a lot of money.

You can't do anything. Would go to the loo and stay there for a couple of hours because I couldn't get up. Pins and needles were a bastard.

Like Str8jacket, the only time I've had a flu jab I ended up in hospital with pneumonia.

6 of one, half a dozen of the other, as far as I'm concerned.