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classic zed
26th June 2006, 14:55
The complete restoration of my Kawasaki Z1300 from a basket of bits to a bike ready to ride.
Fortunes spent on eBay then loads of re-chroming (even the nuts and bolts).
Powder coated frame, swing arm and lots of brackets.
Engine stripped, re-painted and re-assembled with new parts as needed, dynojet kit for the carbs, Mitsubishi V6 ignition coils (nice big spark).
Repainted in Kawasaki Lightning Blue over a silver base, with original style decals made in silver not gold.
King and Queen seat re-trimmed courtesy of In-Car Upholstery.
Just need to get it vinned and I'm ready to go.:done:
Str8 Jacket
26th June 2006, 14:59
Wow! Awesome job you've done there... I love the seat(s). Bet you cant wait to get it on the road?!
SimJen
26th June 2006, 14:59
Nice bike man, very well done. Colour is noice :)
classic zed
26th June 2006, 15:06
Hopefully going in tomorrow, VINZ said they cant find any record of the frame number ever being registered in this country so have to do the usual Police check and then Interpol:gob:
Hope its ok, as for the seat its damn comfy, and it took me months to settle on a colour that I felt suited it.
Now thats finished I am allowed to start the next project, A supercharged Z1300, Iv got most of the bits so have to get it dont quick:ride:
kickingzebra
26th June 2006, 15:08
Mmmmm 6 cylinders of goodness!! Loving it, and I don't even go for classics!!
Edbear
26th June 2006, 15:14
And not before time, eh, Tim? Been waiting for this moment! I'll be around to see it ASAP!:scooter:
sAsLEX
26th June 2006, 15:16
Hopefully going in tomorrow, VINZ said they cant find any record of the frame number ever being registered in this country so have to do the usual Police check and then Interpol:gob:
yEAH HOPE IT GOES WELL FOR YOU BUT THEY WOULDNT LET ME PUT MY xr ON THE ROAD AFTER SAYING THAT
ps sorry caps
phantom
26th June 2006, 15:17
that's awesome, wish I had the patience and stickability to see a project through like that:first:
classic zed
26th June 2006, 15:24
yEAH HOPE IT GOES WELL FOR YOU BUT THEY WOULDNT LET ME PUT MY xr ON THE ROAD AFTER SAYING THAT
ps sorry caps
If the worst happens and they say no, I have a frame I recently bought from the States (has original docs), so all I have to do is powder coat it and swap everything over, again:angry:
Hitcher
26th June 2006, 15:24
Wow! Really nice work on a wonderful classic.
classic zed
26th June 2006, 15:27
And not before time, eh, Tim? Been waiting for this moment! I'll be around to see it ASAP!:scooter:
Hey Ed I'll put the jug on ready
slowpoke
26th June 2006, 15:34
Hey Ed I'll put the jug on ready
Sounds like something stronger than a cuppa is called for!
As a youngster I remember hearing a big zed with a 6 into 1 exhaust and the thing sounded absolutely mint.
riffer
26th June 2006, 15:39
It's beautiful.
Well done.
classic zed
26th June 2006, 15:43
When I stripped the engine down I found a nearly blocked oil strainer.
Cases all painted and ready to go, and in case anyone has not seen inside the engine there is a shot of that too:rockon:
And it sounds great on the standard pipes so a 6 into 1 should be wicked.
Biohazard
26th June 2006, 15:49
:gob: a fantastic job you did on that..
Love the Z'ds, a pure classic..enjoy riding her
MSTRS
26th June 2006, 16:14
Gorgeous...hXc will be keen on that 'cos of the colour. Nice job.
kickingzebra
26th June 2006, 16:37
That cases photo makes the engine look like a 10 tonner!!
Wolf
26th June 2006, 16:37
You've done a great job. It's hard to believe that it's the same bike as in the first pic. My old Zundapp was in a sorry state before I restored it but it looked mint by comparison with how your Z looked. Talk about resurrecting something from the dead!
Cheers, thanks for sharing.
Dooly
26th June 2006, 16:40
Excellent work.
I know a guy who has one of those in original condition in his shed. Has'nt been ridden for years.
Kickaha
26th June 2006, 16:40
Very nice work
what did you clean the cases up with or have you painted them?
Clivoris
26th June 2006, 16:42
Hey man,
that is bootiful. Big ups for all the effort. :first:
Wolf
26th June 2006, 16:55
That cases photo makes the engine look like a 10 tonner!!
If that bike is as wide and as big as it looks, I doubt I'd be able to touch the ground. Definitely not a bike for pygmies like me.
Paul in NZ
26th June 2006, 16:57
Awesome work!!!
I read in one of the turgid english classic mags that these bikes are getting into the unuseable stakes because you cannot purchase the internal chains? ie non stocked by kawasaki. I guess thats the 2 big hivo chains?
Paul N
btw - I never believe half of what I read...
Freakshow
26th June 2006, 17:00
:rockon: That is one impressive job, Well done would see up close!
classic zed
26th June 2006, 17:15
That cases photo makes the engine look like a 10 tonner!!
Had to use the engine hoist to put it in the frame, or even pick it up for that matter, the bike is just over 300kg and the engine must be over half of that:gob:
classic zed
26th June 2006, 17:19
Awesome work!!!
I read in one of the turgid english classic mags that these bikes are getting into the unuseable stakes because you cannot purchase the internal chains? ie non stocked by kawasaki. I guess thats the 2 big hivo chains?
Paul N
btw - I never believe half of what I read...
Thats correct, they are even difficult to find on eBay, I will have to do some research, there must be someone that can make them up. I have another motor to build and I put the best chains in this one:doh:
yungatart
26th June 2006, 17:25
Stunning! You deserve a DB or ..is it a mallowpuff?
Edbear
26th June 2006, 17:28
[QUOTE=yungatart]Stunning! You deserve a DB or ..is it a mallowpuff?[QUOTE]
:killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme
classic zed
26th June 2006, 17:37
Very nice work
what did you clean the cases up with or have you painted them?
I stripped the cases first with my own mixture of paint stripper and concrete cleaner, works a treat, then etch primer, 2K primer followed by 2K base coat silver and clear lacquer over the top. Lots of work but it should clean really easily and resist stone chips.
Blackbird
26th June 2006, 17:43
Now thats finished I am allowed to start the next project, A supercharged Z1300, Iv got most of the bits so have to get it dont quick:ride:
What sort of supercharger, vane or Roots type?
Congrats on a fantastic restoration job.
inlinefour
26th June 2006, 17:46
The complete restoration of my Kawasaki Z1300 from a basket of bits to a bike ready to ride.
Fortunes spent on eBay then loads of re-chroming (even the nuts and bolts).
Powder coated frame, swing arm and lots of brackets.
Engine stripped, re-painted and re-assembled with new parts as needed, dynojet kit for the carbs, Mitsubishi V6 ignition coils (nice big spark).
Repainted in Kawasaki Lightning Blue over a silver base, with original style decals made in silver not gold.
King and Queen seat re-trimmed courtesy of In-Car Upholstery.
Just need to get it vinned and I'm ready to go.:done:
I normally do not like kawasakis much, but I are right into classic and vintage bikes. That bike looks mint, hope you enjoy it just as much if not more than what I enjoy my classics in the garage.
classic zed
26th June 2006, 17:49
What sort of supercharger, vane or Roots type?
Congrats on a fantastic restoration job.
came off a Toyota MR2 good for up to about 1800cc and should get 4-7 psi boost, and the best thing is they are driven by a magnetic clutch so I can switch it in when I want it. Also to go on is a commodore fuel injection system (inline 6) and if I can get them a Wiseco 1500cc overbore kit.
I have ZX12 front forks and wheels, zx10 switchgear and master cylinders (hydraulic clutch) with Tokiko 6 pot calipers all round to help it stop.
Should be fun:blip:
diggydog
26th June 2006, 18:04
classic- nice job mate, nice colour blue, what year is it, and what would the total coin spent on her?, i understand with being a classic it's worth it maybe.
T.W.R
26th June 2006, 18:14
That is one seriously delicious piece of work!!:2thumbsup
I put a few Kms in on one years & years ago & it was just magic, turbine smooth & effortless.
I'm jealous :yes: and hope that isn't going to be the recipient of the S/charger :( keep it as it is, it's awesome as it is !
classic zed
26th June 2006, 18:15
classic- nice job mate, nice colour blue, what year is it, and what would the total coin spent on her?, i understand with being a classic it's worth it maybe.
Its a 79 bike and as for the money, I bought 2 of them for $4,000, one was roadworthy until a Honda Civic decided otherwise, I have probably spent about $7,000 restoring it, $2,000 on chrome alone:gob: the pipes I bought in from the States were quite rusty but Otahuhu chrome did a great job on them and the whole bucket of nuts bolts and washers, and hard chrome on the fork stanchions.
Paintwork was no problem, that was done by me (not happy with the tank so I will do it again) as was all the mechanical and electrical work, so no labour charges there.
justsomeguy
26th June 2006, 18:22
Lovely stuff,
Now do a little write up on it - find some pictures then politely ask Big Dave (I heard he can be bribed with beer :innocent: ) if he has place in an issue of Kiwi Rider for it:blip:
You never know - your little bike could become world famous:rockon:
Sensei
26th June 2006, 18:39
Brings a Tear to my eye looking at this Beautiful bike ! Well done I cann't say anymore . :2thumbsup
T.W.R
26th June 2006, 18:43
will we see one of these in a few weeks in colour :doobey:
diggydog
26th June 2006, 18:43
Its a 79 bike and as for the money, I bought 2 of them for $4,000, one was roadworthy until a Honda Civic decided otherwise, I have probably spent about $7,000 restoring it, $2,000 on chrome alone:gob: the pipes I bought in from the States were quite rusty but Otahuhu chrome did a great job on them and the whole bucket of nuts bolts and washers, and hard chrome on the fork stanchions.
Paintwork was no problem, that was done by me (not happy with the tank so I will do it again) as was all the mechanical and electrical work, so no labour charges there.
Thats not bad in some ways as you have a new bike, as will it being a classic.
i did'nt think she was in late seventies thought may of been eighties, you would probable get something back out of it, great stuff.
Are you going to use her for yourself or use her on occasion etc ?:rockon: :sunny:
classic zed
26th June 2006, 18:50
Thats not bad in some ways as you have a new bike, as will it being a classic.
i did'nt think she was in late seventies thought may of been eighties, you would probable get something back out of it, great stuff.
Are you going to use her for yourself or use her on occasion etc ?:rockon: :sunny:
I will use it for work most likely, so almost daily ridden when it gets its plates, I'm looking forward to getting out and meeting everyone on some rides or events
classic zed
26th June 2006, 18:53
will we see one of these in a few weeks in colour :doobey:
but the new project should do it quite easily, so I guess I had better practice:yes:
Wolf
26th June 2006, 20:09
but the new project should do it quite easily, so I guess I had better practice:yes:
A supercharged and injected 1300? Not "doing it" would be hard.
May I suggest a sack of concrete on the front mudguard...
sAsLEX
26th June 2006, 20:19
A supercharged and injected 1300? Not "doing it" would be hard.
you missed something
Wiseco 1500cc overbore kit.
Wolf
26th June 2006, 21:31
Eep!
yeah, I know, 10 characters
miSTa
26th June 2006, 21:33
Excellent work, looks stunning :first:
Madness
26th June 2006, 21:38
should get 4-7 psi boost, driven by a magnetic clutch so I can switch it in when I want it. Also to go on is a commodore fuel injection system (inline 6) and if I can get them a Wiseco 1500cc overbore kit.I have ZX12 front forks and wheels, zx10 switchgear and master cylinders (hydraulic clutch) with Tokiko 6 pot calipers all round to help it stop.
Should be fun:blip:
KiwiBiker understatement of the week.
Beautiful restoration job there bud, a credit to the marque.
classic zed
26th June 2006, 21:38
A supercharged and injected 1300? Not "doing it" would be hard.
May I suggest a sack of concrete on the front mudguard...
I thought I would put the supercharger in here somewhere, drive an alternator from the crank and the blower from the alternator:blip:
Shadows
26th June 2006, 23:50
Very nice indeed. What more can I say? :first:
T.W.R
27th June 2006, 01:06
I thought I would put the supercharger in here somewhere, drive an alternator from the crank and the blower from the alternator:blip:
Something similar to this Monster huh ? alternator driven piggyback S/C :blip:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30714&d=1145940671
Edbear
27th June 2006, 06:45
Something similar to this Monster huh ? alternator driven piggyback S/C :blip:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30714&d=1145940671
Coooooooooollllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:gob:
classic zed
27th June 2006, 09:23
Something similar to this Monster huh ? alternator driven piggyback S/C :blip:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30714&d=1145940671
Any more pictures or information?
Wolf
27th June 2006, 10:25
Something similar to this Monster huh ? alternator driven piggyback S/C :blip:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30714&d=1145940671
Things like that and what CZ is suggesting invite blasphemy from observers - especially if they go past at speed...
Actually, I think it'd possibly move the rider to frequent blasphemy...
CZ, you could call it "The Saviour" on account of what everyone who rides it or sees/hears it go past is going to say.
T.W.R
27th June 2006, 10:31
Any more pictures or information?
Nah sorry, I got that picture a while back along with a few others from:
www.streetfighters.nl
The main contributer is some dude working under the alias of 'Simon the Snake'
It was in the Kawasaki gallery section of the site, each marque has a gallery as well as some hybrid bikes. Most pictures are taken at Fighterama shows, think the Z has a couple of other shots from different angles etc but no specs or info
frogfeaturesFZR
27th June 2006, 15:58
:gob: Looks bloody great, well done
Motoracer
29th June 2006, 16:59
Fuck that's gorgeous! Very nicely done man. :first:
sugilite
30th June 2006, 00:17
will we see one of these in a few weeks in colour :doobey:
I believe this is Doug Damokas? (Spelling?)
sugilite
30th June 2006, 00:26
Inspirational stuff classic zed, thank you for sharing with us!:first:
classic zed
30th June 2006, 01:11
as soon as I can break through the red tape I can get it registered:angry:
Wolf
30th June 2006, 08:55
as soon as I can break through the red tape I can get it registered:angry:
May I suggest dynamite? It won't break the red tape (not even C4 could do that) but it might get some small movement from the appropriate bureaucrats if placed under their arses in sufficient quantity.
I said "might", no guarantees, express or implied...
Cookie
30th June 2006, 09:01
What everyone else said!
You are an inspiration!!! :gob:
Lias
30th June 2006, 09:06
Holy shit!
Thats an awsome looking bike dude.
classic zed
30th June 2006, 09:16
May I suggest dynamite? It won't break the red tape (not even C4 could do that) but it might get some small movement from the appropriate bureaucrats if placed under their arses in sufficient quantity.
I said "might", no guarantees, express or implied...
Funny that!! its exactly what I was thinking when I got off the phone with VINZ.
I also mentioned that as they couldnt find my frame number in their database I could use another frame that I bought from the States, I have the original certificate of title from Albuquerque. No problem you would think!! apparently the fact that I have the receipt from the breakers I purchased it from is not enough, I also have to have a letter from the person on the title doc to say that they sold it to the breaker, otherwise it could have been stolen :rofl:
How much paper do people want:weird:
Wolf
30th June 2006, 09:26
apparently the fact that I have the receipt from the breakers I purchased it from is not enough, I also have to have a letter from the person on the title doc to say that they sold it to the breaker, otherwise it could have been stolen :rofl:
Yep, you could be part of an International Z1300 body-shop gang smuggling stolen bike parts out of the States to the arse end of nowhere where they'll never be found. :yes:
:killingme
sAsLEX
30th June 2006, 09:35
Funny that!! its exactly what I was thinking when I got off the phone with VINZ.
I also mentioned that as they couldnt find my frame number in their database I could use another frame that I bought from the States, I have the original certificate of title from Albuquerque. No problem you would think!! apparently the fact that I have the receipt from the breakers I purchased it from is not enough, I also have to have a letter from the person on the title doc to say that they sold it to the breaker, otherwise it could have been stolen :rofl:
How much paper do people want:weird:
What did i tell you! They have these silly little rules that serve no purpose!
classic zed
30th June 2006, 09:59
What did i tell you! They have these silly little rules that serve no purpose!
If I get the doc from the breaker to say he purchased the bike, would they even check it or is it just so that if something went wrong they can hold up the piece of paper and say "its not my fault, see I have a piece of paper"
Very sad:mad:
Wolf
30th June 2006, 10:04
If I get the doc from the breaker to say he purchased the bike, would they even check it or is it just so that if something went wrong they can hold up the piece of paper and say "its not my fault, see I have a piece of paper"
Very probably the latter, I suspect. It's a PMA rule, nothing more.
classic zed
30th June 2006, 10:54
Very probably the latter, I suspect. It's a PMA rule, nothing more.
and get him to send me the letter :blip:
That should sort it
Macktheknife
30th June 2006, 15:14
BEAUTIFUL JOB! what a restoration, big ups to you.
FROSTY
2nd July 2006, 21:52
Looking about 1000% better than when I last saw it.--What happened to the rego/wof'd one you had??
Please tell me you replaced that plastic rear tyre
classic zed
3rd July 2006, 13:27
Looking about 1000% better than when I last saw it.--What happened to the rego/wof'd one you had??
Please tell me you replaced that plastic rear tyre
A nice young man in a Honda Civic decided to do a "U" turn in front of me, not much else I could but hit him as he was that close. 300kg+ motorcycle versus Honda Civic, I managed to move him about 4 inches across the road and put a massive dent in front of the rear wheel, before going head first through his rear side window:angry: he then proceeded to drive off with me trying to push myself out of the window. The Police tracked him down and have now prosecuted him.
I bought the wreck off the insurance company and that forms the basis of the new project, with a new frame of course.
As for the tyre....new Bridgestone Battlax on the rear and Metzler Lasertech on the front, supposed to be a good combination for that size of bike, I will soon find out.:yes:
Skunk
3rd July 2006, 14:40
Awesome load of hard work. Beautiful result.
Friend of mine had a couple of those. I think he's still got some parts if you're looking for anything standard.
classic zed
3rd July 2006, 14:55
Awesome load of hard work. Beautiful result.
Friend of mine had a couple of those. I think he's still got some parts if you're looking for anything standard.
I am definately interested if you have his details
classic zed
24th July 2006, 15:02
Awesome work!!!
I read in one of the turgid english classic mags that these bikes are getting into the unuseable stakes because you cannot purchase the internal chains? ie non stocked by kawasaki. I guess thats the 2 big hivo chains?
Paul N
btw - I never believe half of what I read...
The chains are hard to find thats true, but eBay is my friend
I just bought a full engine set 4 chains for US$2.00 ...... 2 bucks thats $3.21 in kiwi money, Including postage the whole lot was NZ$50.00
Bargain of the century I'd say:first:
MadMike
1st August 2006, 15:48
Looks great!!! :rockon:
pete376403
7th August 2006, 00:06
Looks superb - best forgotten-era bike I've seen for a while.
Did you ever see the article about the V12 built in England out of two of these?
http://www.classicmechanics.com/bissue/2003-10.htm
classic zed
7th August 2006, 17:36
Looks superb - best forgotten-era bike I've seen for a while.
Did you ever see the article about the V12 built in England out of two of these?
http://www.classicmechanics.com/bissue/2003-10.htm
I must admit Id like to build a V12, maybe after the next project I could get a couple of engine cases in from the States and have a play. Could always get rid of the gearbox and run it inline feeding a seperate gearbox, only problem I can see with an inline V12 is that when you blip the throttle the torque reaction might knock the bike on its side, much like the V8 cars rock when you rev them ...... might be a fun one to ride though:killingme
98tls
7th August 2006, 17:41
good on you mate...bike looks bloody Awsome well done all the hard work/$ paid off.
sAsLEX
7th August 2006, 17:52
I must admit Id like to build a V12, maybe after the next project I could get a couple of engine cases in from the States and have a play. Could always get rid of the gearbox and run it inline feeding a seperate gearbox, only problem I can see with an inline V12 is that when you blip the throttle the torque reaction might knock the bike on its side, much like the V8 cars rock when you rev them ...... might be a fun one to ride though:killingme
<img src="http://www.bikers.co.za/Bikes/concourse/concourse%20pics/ViperV-10PoweredChopperCrotchRocket1.jpg" align="centre" vspace="10" hspace="10">
http://www.bikers.co.za/Bikes/concourse/concourse%20pics/ViperV-10PoweredChopperCrotchRocket2.jpg
http://www.bikers.co.za/Bikes/concourse/concourse%20pics/ViperV-10PoweredChopperCrotchRocket3.jpg
hmmm some one has done similar with a few more cubes than your idea
Wolf
7th August 2006, 17:56
only problem I can see with an inline V12 is that when you blip the throttle the torque reaction might knock the bike on its side, much like the V8 cars rock when you rev them ...... might be a fun one to ride though:killingme
The BMW R100CS with a one litre horizontally opposed twin was quite capable of rocking sideways when you revved it and I made the mistake of chopping down a gear suddenly, causing the bike to tilt abruptly to the right. I'd shudder to think what an inline v12 bike would do.
classic zed
7th August 2006, 20:06
hmmm some one has done similar with a few more cubes than your idea
Bigger maybe, but its only a V10:rofl: seriously though they have put a lot of time into that one, its very nicely done :2thumbsup
The BMW R100CS with a one litre horizontally opposed twin was quite capable of rocking sideways when you revved it and I made the mistake of chopping down a gear suddenly, causing the bike to tilt abruptly to the right. I'd shudder to think what an inline v12 bike would do.
Maybe I could use a big contra rotating alternator to counteract the torque, works on a gold wing.:yes:
Wolf
7th August 2006, 20:48
Maybe I could use a big contra rotating alternator to counteract the torque, works on a gold wing.:yes:
Hope you were planning on powering a house with that alternator...
:devil2:
classic zed
8th August 2006, 23:14
Hope you were planning on powering a house with that alternator...
:devil2:
It would be a big one thats for sure
My bike went in to be vinned today so hopefully tomorrow she can hit the road legally, I look forward to putting some miles on it :scooter:
texmo
8th August 2006, 23:21
Wont be getting it tomoro dude. the old man who dose the vinn is pulling himself. Becaues its a pre 85 and wasnt on the road during 91 when all the files were put on computer, its not in the system so he wont vinn it. Stink for you, should be a few more days tho. on the bright side the car is ready.
texmo
8th August 2006, 23:24
VINZ said they cant find any record of the frame number ever being registered in this country so have to do the usual Police check and then Interpol
Looks like you already knew.
classic zed
8th August 2006, 23:42
its been 8 months so far to rebuilt it, so a few more days wont hurt I guess. and it might give the weather a chance to clear up too:2thumbsup
texmo
9th August 2006, 12:11
New Zeland kawaka have been rung they have no reccord of the frame...
The evo is ready now, sorry about that the inspector though he might just rock up at 10am since we open at 8am its kind of rude.
scumdog
9th August 2006, 13:07
The BMW R100CS with a one litre horizontally opposed twin was quite capable of rocking sideways when you revved it and I made the mistake of chopping down a gear suddenly, causing the bike to tilt abruptly to the right. I'd shudder to think what an inline v12 bike would do.
I noticed today that when I blipped the throttle on the T-Sport while it was leaning over on the side-stand that it wanted to lift up off said side-stand.:spudwhat:
Has it got 'Guzzi-itus" or something, :scratch:
I didn't think a V of the H-D conformation would do that, Guzzis do but they're at right-angles to the frame.
classic zed
9th August 2006, 13:15
New Zeland kawaka have been rung they have no reccord of the frame...
The evo is ready now, sorry about that the inspector though he might just rock up at 10am since we open at 8am its kind of rude.
I already checked with NZ Kawasaki, and yep they dont have any record of the frame number, but as they said it might have been privately imported in which case they wouldnt have any details on it.
Its clean as far as the police are concerned so its just up to Interpol ....... seriously INTERPOL!!! for a 25 year old bike frame!!! I have a feeling that they might just piss themselves laughing:rofl:
But hey rules are rules I guess:wait:
Wolf
9th August 2006, 16:02
Its clean as far as the police are concerned so its just up to Interpol ....... seriously INTERPOL!!! for a 25 year old bike frame!!! I have a feeling that they might just piss themselves laughing:rofl:
"Hey Jacques, what're you up to this morning?"
"Well, Hans, I'm making an "important enquiry" for the New Zealand government - they want to know if we have any outstanding records pertaining to a 25-year-old motorbike frame."
"Congratulations, drug smuggling and terrorism were probably getting a bit boring for you..."
classic zed
9th August 2006, 21:40
"Hey Jacques, what're you up to this morning?"
"Well, Hans, I'm making an "important enquiry" for the New Zealand government - they want to know if we have any outstanding records pertaining to a 25-year-old motorbike frame."
"Congratulations, drug smuggling and terrorism were probably getting a bit boring for you..."
Couldnt have put it better myself:yes:
degrom
9th August 2006, 22:01
The complete restoration of my Kawasaki Z1300 from a basket of bits to a bike ready to ride.
Fortunes spent on eBay then loads of re-chroming (even the nuts and bolts).
Powder coated frame, swing arm and lots of brackets.
Engine stripped, re-painted and re-assembled with new parts as needed, dynojet kit for the carbs, Mitsubishi V6 ignition coils (nice big spark).
Repainted in Kawasaki Lightning Blue over a silver base, with original style decals made in silver not gold.
King and Queen seat re-trimmed courtesy of In-Car Upholstery.
Just need to get it vinned and I'm ready to go.:done:
Brilliant work mate!!! Seeing what lovely work you have done...
...how did you go about painting the engine?
Please give me a few tips on how you went about and what the costs were.
Thx.
classic zed
10th August 2006, 00:38
First I stripped it completely, degreased the cases, made my own mixture for stripping the paint and stripped it.
Once that was done I used an etch primer followed by a 2K primer then 2K tinting silver and a Clear lacquer over the top.
Then just re-assemble with new gaskets.:done:
It could have been better I guess if it had been shot blasted but that stuff is difficult to get out of the cases afterwards.
degrom
10th August 2006, 18:04
First I stripped it completely, degreased the cases, made my own mixture for stripping the paint and stripped it.
Once that was done I used an etch primer followed by a 2K primer then 2K tinting silver and a Clear lacquer over the top.
Then just re-assemble with new gaskets.:done:
It could have been better I guess if it had been shot blasted but that stuff is difficult to get out of the cases afterwards.
Thanks,doesn't the clear coat turn brown after a while?
(I think it because of heat that it does that...)
classic zed
10th August 2006, 20:11
Thanks,doesn't the clear coat turn brown after a while?
(I think it because of heat that it does that...)
It can withstand a roasting in direct summer sun for years so I cant see why it would worry about a water cooled engine, but use a good quality lacquer dont go for the cheap stuff.
degrom
10th August 2006, 21:52
It can withstand a roasting in direct summer sun for years so I cant see why it would worry about a water cooled engine, but use a good quality lacquer dont go for the cheap stuff.
It's good you mentioned it... You used it on a water-cooled engine not a air-cooled one.
What would you recommend for air cooled engines?
I was thinking of painting it with heat resistant silver paint... I still figuring out how I am going to clean it. Like you said previously any blasting to an engine makes the cleaning work take mush longer. But if that is what is needed I will do that.
Thanks.
classic zed
10th August 2006, 22:25
The best thing to do is talk to an automotive paint supply shop, they should have just about anything you need to do the job.
Or speak to Brett at
Wairau Paint Centre
09 443 3430
classic zed
11th August 2006, 21:47
The bike cannot be vinned
degrom
11th August 2006, 21:51
The bike cannot be vinned
Why is that?
classic zed
11th August 2006, 21:53
the frame number cannot be found, so unless the guy I bought it from can verify where it came from, I have to powder the frame from the written off bike and transfer everything over.
Apparently there is no problem registering a write off, but impossible to register a good one.:argh:
Still that will keep me busy for a couple of weeks, and I rode it back from the vinz station today in the rain, so it needed cleaning anyway:rofl:
degrom
11th August 2006, 22:01
Thats bad... But good luck!!! You are doing good... Please keep us up to date!!!
classic zed
11th August 2006, 22:08
and I can use this frame as the basis for the new project, its got to be modified anyway so I can cert it as a scratchbuilt, problem solved:yes:
Wolf
12th August 2006, 08:01
and I can use this frame as the basis for the new project, its got to be modified anyway so I can cert it as a scratchbuilt, problem solved:yes:
At least you're looking on the positive side. Pity you can't bill the inefficient officious morons for the work it's going to take stripping the bike and transferring everything to the other frame. What a pack of useless tossers.
Good on you, mate, you've got a hell of a lot more patience than I have.
classic zed
12th August 2006, 12:26
At least you're looking on the positive side. Pity you can't bill the inefficient officious morons for the work it's going to take stripping the bike and transferring everything to the other frame. What a pack of useless tossers.
Good on you, mate, you've got a hell of a lot more patience than I have.
But as I see it I have no choice but to just get on with it:angry:
sAsLEX
12th August 2006, 13:09
I hate to say this but "told you so"
They wouldnt let me reg my XR as they have never had the frame no in the computer.
Why do they need a 25 year old frame number in their computer to make it safe? Surely a LVV cert or something would suffice? Say you made the frame with the help of a qualified welder ?
classic zed
13th August 2006, 12:08
I hate to say this but "told you so"
They wouldnt let me reg my XR as they have never had the frame no in the computer.
Why do they need a 25 year old frame number in their computer to make it safe? Surely a LVV cert or something would suffice? Say you made the frame with the help of a qualified welder ?
But no real problem, I just have to do a bit of work on the frame, like welding up the holes someone drilled in it for a rear carrier mount, and tidy up some of the factory welds, then its off to the powder coaters. Hopefully I will have it back at the end of the week so next weekend I can swap everything over.
sAsLEX
13th August 2006, 12:38
But no real problem, I just have to do a bit of work on the frame, like welding up the holes someone drilled in it for a rear carrier mount, and tidy up some of the factory welds, then its off to the powder coaters. Hopefully I will have it back at the end of the week so next weekend I can swap everything over.
Its such a dumb rule though aint it! Maybe write a letter to Harry Duynhoven he might be interested in getting it changed!?
Just lucky you had another frame
Wolf
13th August 2006, 13:27
Just lucky you had another frame
Fuck, yeah! It'd've been a pisser if you were now suddenly in the market for a good frame. I take it that aside from a few extraneous holes and a bit of a tidy up it's all straight and in good order?
Looking forward to the news that it is all reassembled and road legal. You're going to have a busy weekend ahead of you - or have you got so practised at stripping and reassembling it that it now takes next to no time... (like me with GSX250 carbs).
Wolf
13th August 2006, 13:33
Just noticed that the last few quotes have a link back to the original post so it can be read in its entirety. Cool idea! Cheers, Spank.
classic zed
13th August 2006, 22:29
Its such a dumb rule though aint it! Maybe write a letter to Harry Duynhoven he might be interested in getting it changed!?
Just lucky you had another frame
yep anything that stops this crap has to be a good thing
Fuck, yeah! It'd've been a pisser if you were now suddenly in the market for a good frame. I take it that aside from a few extraneous holes and a bit of a tidy up it's all straight and in good order?
Looking forward to the news that it is all reassembled and road legal. You're going to have a busy weekend ahead of you - or have you got so practised at stripping and reassembling it that it now takes next to no time... (like me with GSX250 carbs).
I will get started on dismantling it during the week so hopefully I will only have to re-assemble it at the weekend:yes:
classic zed
15th August 2006, 12:24
just over an hours worth of stripping down the mighty Zed is just a shadow of her former self:brick:
The other frame has been sorted and its gone for powder coating.
Wolf
15th August 2006, 15:29
just over an hours worth of stripping down the mighty Zed is just a shadow of her former self:brick:
The other frame has been sorted and its gone for powder coating.
You work fast - it took me a lot longer than a few hours to strip the Zundapp.
degrom
15th August 2006, 17:49
just over an hours worth of stripping down the mighty Zed is just a shadow of her former self:brick:
The other frame has been sorted and its gone for powder coating.
What will the powder coating be costing you?
texmo
15th August 2006, 17:52
You know vinz wont be there by the time your bike is done right? they are closing the place down well they might not or they might but I dont know and I work there we get told in two weeks when the building closes down.
classic zed
15th August 2006, 19:16
What will the powder coating be costing you?
The powder coating will probably be about $150 - 200 I will let you know when it comes back.
Last time it cost $285 but that was for frame, swing arm, fork legs, trees and a load of other brackets, and that price included shot blasting all the parts first.
You know vinz wont be there by the time your bike is done right? they are closing the place down well they might not or they might but I dont know and I work there we get told in two weeks when the building closes down.
If the frame comes back on Friday as planned you will see it finished next Monday:yes:
degrom
15th August 2006, 19:48
Thanks... I want to re powder coat my rims and swing warm... For some reasons the owner or two back powder coated it a very light silver,almost white...:sick:
I want to make my bike almost the same color as yours with a gold'ish colored rims... You know,like a Subaru. I thought if it was okay for a STI it won't look to bad on an old bike and the old V-twin almost sound like a boxer engine to.. LOL
texmo
15th August 2006, 21:27
If the frame comes back on Friday as planned you will see it finished next Monday:yes:
Really? good on ya dude. I still think it sucks frog tryed to get your bike through but morics is just a dick. shame really its such a nice bike too.
classic zed
15th August 2006, 21:30
Thanks... I want to re powder coat my rims and swing warm... For some reasons the owner or two back powder coated it a very light silver,almost white...:sick:
I want to make my bike almost the same color as yours with a gold'ish colored rims... You know,like a Subaru. I thought if it was okay for a STI it won't look to bad on an old bike and the old V-twin almost sound like a boxer engine to.. LOL
Sounds like a nice colour scheme, the bike should look great.
And here is tonights work, only the engine and forks to go, might need help with the engine though its damn heavy, just as well I have an engine hoist to use.:yes:
Edbear
15th August 2006, 21:43
just as well I have an engine hoist to use.:yes:
Yeah, but be careful, it's only a 2 - tonne hoist....:innocent:
degrom
15th August 2006, 21:44
Yeah, but be careful, it's only a 2 - tonne hoist....:innocent:
That's funny!!!!
classic zed
16th August 2006, 09:57
Yeah, but be careful, it's only a 2 - tonne hoist....:innocent:
I forgot about the weight limit, anyone have a fork hoist I can borrow?:(
classic zed
19th August 2006, 14:25
I will have to rebuild it next week:angry:
Edbear
19th August 2006, 20:13
I will have to rebuild it next week:angry:
You'll have to rename this thread, Tim. "At last it's fin...":innocent:
Wolf
19th August 2006, 20:27
You'll have to rename this thread, Tim. "At last it's fin...":innocent:
I was musing today, after seeing CZ's last post, that this was the most ironically-named thread on this forum...
classic zed
19th August 2006, 20:29
You'll have to rename this thread, Tim. "At last it's fin...":innocent:
I'm beginning to wonder if it will ever get there, I dropped something on the diff today and chipped a big piece of paint off it.:gob:
More work!!! now I have to re-paint and clear coat the diff:angry:
Wolf
19th August 2006, 20:32
I'm beginning to wonder if it will ever get there, I dropped something on the diff today and chipped a big piece of paint off it.:gob:
More work!!! now I have to re-paint and clear coat the diff:angry:
Bugger! Will you be able to get it done before the frame comes back and you're ready to reassemble? I gather you'll have to find another place to get it vinned as the one you went to will be closed soon?
classic zed
19th August 2006, 20:37
Bugger! Will you be able to get it done before the frame comes back and you're ready to reassemble? I gather you'll have to find another place to get it vinned as the one you went to will be closed soon?
As for the bike, it WILL be ready before the end of the week:yes:
Wired1
19th August 2006, 20:40
Very nice, and I bet you enjoyed it. Where did you do the work, looks like at your workplace? Somehow you always manage to spend way more than you should on these projects, my wife keeps all the receipts then drags them out every time I look at another project... What's the next one?
Edbear
19th August 2006, 21:16
my wife keeps all the receipts then drags them out every time I look at another project...
Mine doesn't 'cause then she can't exagerate, (sp? Damn my brain's fried!),:bye:
Gutted about the diff, Tim! But I think Wolf has a point - is restoring a classic, (bike, car, boat or plane), ever really "finished"? :yes:
classic zed
19th August 2006, 21:29
Very nice, and I bet you enjoyed it. Where did you do the work, looks like at your workplace? Somehow you always manage to spend way more than you should on these projects, my wife keeps all the receipts then drags them out every time I look at another project... What's the next one?
I did the work at my place, I have a garage in Whangaparaoa, service, repairs, electronic diagnostics, Wof's etc ..... bikes, cars whatever you have.
And I have the same problem with my wife watching everything I get, fortunately I can lose a lot through the business:2thumbsup
Wolf
19th August 2006, 21:33
But I think Wolf has a point - is restoring a classic, (bike, car, boat or plane), ever really "finished"? :yes:
Actually, I was just asking if he'd be able to get the diff fixed up before he has to put the bike back together.
Restoring a classic? Yep, that does get finished - have seen a couple: looked like they'd just rolled off the factory floor but for the speedo reading. Freshly painted, all the original badges in place (in one case, custom adhesive decals to replace the originals), engine and chrome all a-gleam. Most definitely finished - restored to factory finish.
Now, modifying a bike, car, plane, boat etc - that's never finished :D
Edbear
19th August 2006, 21:45
Actually, I was just asking if he'd be able to get the diff fixed up before he has to put the bike back together.
Restoring a classic? Yep, that does get finished - have seen a couple: looked like they'd just rolled off the factory floor but for the speedo reading. Freshly painted, all the original badges in place (in one case, custom adhesive decals to replace the originals), engine and chrome all a-gleam. Most definitely finished - restored to factory finish.
Now, modifying a bike, car, plane, boat etc - that's never finished :D
Yeah, you're right, there. I'm staggered at times the amount of time and money people have poured into their "projects"!. Bet Tim's gonna have to lose a LOT more through the business for his next project...! :nono:
Hey, Tim! If you need any more tools for it....:innocent:
Wolf
19th August 2006, 22:08
Yeah, you're right, there. I'm staggered at times the amount of time and money people have poured into their "projects"!. Bet Tim's gonna have to lose a LOT more through the business for his next project...! :nono:
Hey, Tim! If you need any more tools for it....:innocent:
When I restored the Zundapp I didn't go as far as a factory restore (for a start I couldn't get the parts and I put some mods in - indicators and brake light - which meant it had a Suzuki switch unit on the handlebars, a Yamaha RD350 tail light assembly and indicators mounted on it) but I restored it to a level of repair that I deemed acceptable - it was "finished. Just not in the way the classic 500cc Matchless I encountered was "finished" - pure factory condition.
Now, modifying the XT225, that's going to be "ongoing" for quite some time.
Fast forward 20 years...
"Well it started out as a stock XT225 Enduro and now it's a 600cc Street Tracker. I'm planning on putting a turbo in it and I could do with a custom paint job..."
(Seriously, now, I have no desire to turn it into a turboed street tracker. But the 600cc engine could be fun...)
classic zed
19th August 2006, 22:16
Yeah, you're right, there. I'm staggered at times the amount of time and money people have poured into their "projects"!. Bet Tim's gonna have to lose a LOT more through the business for his next project...! :nono:
Hey, Tim! If you need any more tools for it....:innocent:
You never know, you had better bring the truck round:yes:
classic zed
21st August 2006, 19:56
Nice shiny frame:rockon:
Shot blasted and powder coated $185.63
Edbear
21st August 2006, 20:33
Hey, it's 8:30pm! Got the engine swapped over yet...?:sunny:
classic zed
21st August 2006, 22:04
Hey, it's 8:30pm! Got the engine swapped over yet...?:sunny:
But by 10pm I have the engine in, forks on, trees on, handlebars and dash fitted.
Time to go home:bye:
classic zed
21st August 2006, 22:07
would help if I added the pics:doh:
Wolf
21st August 2006, 22:31
You work quickly. I'm surprised to see how shiny the frame is. I always thought powder coating left a matt finish so I opted for getting the Zundapp's frame painted in black Acran - and of course I chipped it in a couple of places while I was assembling it. I understand powdercoating is more robust and now I see the quality of shine, I wish I had gone for that instead of paint.
Cheaper than painting, too, I note.
classic zed
21st August 2006, 23:18
You work quickly. I'm surprised to see how shiny the frame is. I always thought powder coating left a matt finish so I opted for getting the Zundapp's frame painted in black Acran - and of course I chipped it in a couple of places while I was assembling it. I understand powdercoating is more robust and now I see the quality of shine, I wish I had gone for that instead of paint.
Cheaper than painting, too, I note.
The powder coating certainly looks good and its very hard, I know that because I dropped the old frame and it bounced off the hoist before hitting the concrete, didnt even scratch it:yes:
texmo
22nd August 2006, 00:25
Dude good work, Vinz shuts its doors on friday at 4:00pm and they arent gonna open them again I really hope you can make it.
classic zed
22nd August 2006, 13:54
Dude good work, Vinz shuts its doors on friday at 4:00pm and they arent gonna open them again I really hope you can make it.
Is Wednesday late afternoon ok? hopefully pick up Friday morning:yes:
Wolf
22nd August 2006, 14:02
Is Wednesday late afternoon ok? hopefully pick up Friday morning:yes:
So on Friday you start a new thread entitled "At last it's REALLY finished" ? :devil2:
classic zed
22nd August 2006, 16:52
So on Friday you start a new thread entitled "At last it's REALLY finished" ? :devil2:
I might just do that.
Here is the pic of work I have managed to do today, in between paid work of course. Its surprising how long the fiddly bits take, like fitting coils, wiring everything up and fitting the exhaust + 6 downpipes.
Cooling system, carbs and rear end to go, should be finished tonight:rockon:
Edbear
22nd August 2006, 17:05
in between paid work of course.
Riiiiiigght....! Got that Saab sorted? And that Mazda? How's the Subaru coming along?:innocent:
classic zed
22nd August 2006, 18:23
Riiiiiigght....! Got that Saab sorted? And that Mazda? How's the Subaru coming along?:innocent:
Done, done and broken, SAAB needs some pricey bits:shit:
classic zed
23rd August 2006, 15:36
Back together and ready to go AGAIN
Fingers crossed everything will be ok this time:done:
Wolf
23rd August 2006, 17:10
Back together and ready to go AGAIN
Fingers crossed everything will be ok this time:done:
Well, you did say "wednesday arvo" for going to VINZ.
All the best, mate.
98tls
23rd August 2006, 18:48
ZED....grab a copy of the latest Motorcycle Trader...theres an article in there on the 1300.
classic zed
23rd August 2006, 18:56
ZED....grab a copy of the latest Motorcycle Trader...theres an article in there on the 1300.
I will get one on the way home:2thumbsup
Edbear
23rd August 2006, 19:07
Awesome job, mate! Looks just as good... no, make that even better!!!, than last time! Hope the vinning goes sweet! Hope to pop in before the weekend to see it.:sunny:
And did you find an answer on the SAAB? That throttle -body was a puzzle!:bye:
classic zed
23rd August 2006, 23:15
Awesome job, mate! Looks just as good... no, make that even better!!!, than last time! Hope the vinning goes sweet! Hope to pop in before the weekend to see it.:sunny:
And did you find an answer on the SAAB? That throttle -body was a puzzle!:bye:
good news though, its only $1,100 for a new one then reprogram the ECU:gob:
98tls
23rd August 2006, 23:17
Did you get a bike trader mate...good read
classic zed
24th August 2006, 14:40
Did you get a bike trader mate...good read
Nice article, and good that they showed both the fuel injected model and the earlier carb model, although the injected version was 130bhp (120 for carb):scooter:
texmo
24th August 2006, 15:14
Nice dude, went up and saw it today. Such and amazing resto, Hope it all goes through this time with out any hasels.
classic zed
25th August 2006, 15:20
Its got real number plates and everything:gob:
took its time but I'm ready for the road, just have to get valuations done for the insurance:done:
Wolf
25th August 2006, 16:15
Its got real number plates and everything:gob:
took its time but I'm ready for the road, just have to get valuations done for the insurance:done:
Yeee-fuckin'-haaaaa! :first:
You must be utterly stoked! Nothing quite like the satisfaction of it being finished.
Congrats.
classic zed
25th August 2006, 18:22
Yeee-fuckin'-haaaaa! :first:
You must be utterly stoked! Nothing quite like the satisfaction of it being finished.
Congrats.
It will be good to get out this weekend thats for sure:scooter:
sAsLEX
26th August 2006, 09:23
It will be good to get out this weekend thats for sure:scooter:
Congrats mate!
classic zed
26th August 2006, 10:55
Congrats mate!
So being a pom I havent done much riding around the shore area, what are good routes to take?
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