Soccer is rubbish [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

rogson

27th June 2006, 08:08

SimJen

27th June 2006, 08:16

Its so popular because it is. Most kiwi's are completely unaware of its worldwide popularity, as they are almost completely consumed with Rugby.
Its a refreshing change to see another sport on the TV for once.

skelstar

27th June 2006, 08:20

Play the game on a playstation or something and it becomes much clearer. I know what youre saying but there must be something to it for it to be soo popular around the rest of the world. Im not a huge fan myself but come world cup time and I love it.

James Deuce

27th June 2006, 08:20

Rugby is for violent meatheads, firmly ensconced in the culture of wife-beating and alcoholism.

Soccer is for blokes who like to do cocaine and shag everybody else's wife.

Don't make me talk about Tennis. I'll just start thinking about Sharapova, and then.... urgh, excuse me.

The_Dover

27th June 2006, 08:24

I love rugby.

Paul in NZ

27th June 2006, 08:27

Rugby is for violent meatheads, firmly ensconced in the culture of wife-beating and alcoholism.
.

Oh GREAT - NOW you tell me - doh! (sob) so many years wasted...

James Deuce

27th June 2006, 08:32

Don't change Paul, we love you just the way you are.

Squeak the Rat

27th June 2006, 08:41

The beauty of football is that it's unusual for a team to get in a position where they are almost certain of winning. Sure, it can be boring watching a 0-0 game for 89 minutes, but you know that in that last minute your team can snatch a goal. Edge of the seat stuff that, Ritchie.

Nothing beats the atmosphere of a big football game.

The best rugby crowds can do is sing original things like "AAAAAALLLL BLACKS. AAAAALLLLL BLACKS", or..... actually thats all they can say. (Personally I was too cold to say anything at the ireland game....)

If you get the chance, go and watch a big english premiership game. You may change your mind!

Flatcap

27th June 2006, 08:55

I agree - Soccer is rubbish. I tried to have some enthusiasm with the world cup and all, but those dives accompanied with much flailing and gnashing of teeth just annoy me.

I much prefer motor racing (except if it is American)

Swoop

27th June 2006, 09:07

Most kiwi's are completely unaware of its worldwide popularity, as they are almost completely consumed with Rugby.
Its a refreshing change to see another sport on the TV for once.
Well said that man!
Kiwis love rugby because that is what they have been force-fed and brainwashed with since birth.
Unfortunately the media is the same, and when another sporting code gets some medal/trophy this is relegated to the back of the que so the rugby chest-beaters can have their latest loss analysed in great detail...

Then we get to the rugby league losers...:zzzz:

EDIT: Unfortunately football spoils their own game with that stupid penalty shootout thingy - what a joke!
Each team should have to keep playing for endless extra time until a winning score is achieved.
The fittest and best skilled team would then be the winner. The spectators win as well with more value for their $$'s.

eliot-ness

27th June 2006, 09:43

SimJen

27th June 2006, 09:54

After watching the Italy v Aussie game being decided by a lousy refereeing decision I'd have to agree. 90 minutes of good football spoiled in the last seconds is 90 minutes wasted. They could have had a penalty shootout before the match, or tossed a coin, and saved a lot of time. I bet there's a lot of Italians in Oz getting a hard time right now.

Yes its annoying when that happens, but thats why the teams need to get goals. If they don't then all their efforts could be wasted. No worse than a draw in Rugby.
As for the players that throw themselves down, hollywood style. It seems to happen a lot more often during the world cup when they've got so much more to lose.
As someone said above, a trip to a good premier league match in britain will change your opinion. The crowds they get even for a small game just annihalate any rugby attendance in this country. And the atmostphere makes an All Blacks match look like a Womens Institute meeting ;)

Qkkid

27th June 2006, 10:30

Soccer is rubbish, particulary after watching the Italy versus Australia finarlie it sucked i think they were hard done by the ref :tugger:

SARGE

27th June 2006, 10:37

Rugby is for violent meatheads, firmly ensconced in the culture of wife-beating and alcoholism.

Soccer is for blokes who like to do cocaine and shag everybody else's wife.

Soccer Hooligans who bash a 10 year old for wearing an English strip in Scotland..?

yea.. super game.. give me motorsport anyday

anything less is just a kids game played by overpaid primadonnnas

Postie

27th June 2006, 10:37

the last time I watched a game of fuckedball was in the last world cup that Paul Gasgoine was playing for England when they complained that the Grey shirts made it hard to see each other. Anyway, Gazza was playing and was showing some skill, then he got tacked, fell over and grazed his knee then he sat in the middle of the pitch and started to cry in front of millions and millions of people. What a fucking pussy, i hate it when a player doesn't even get touched, he then falls down like he has a broken leg, then gets up and kicks a penalty, fuckin miraculous recovery is that. I refuse to watch any sport where there is worse acting then Jody Foster in Silence of the Lambs then actual sport.
I have been to English Premiership games, my boss had season tickets at Arsenal and i used to go most weeks, the atmosphere was shit, people only wanted to insult eachother and fight the other side cos they supported the other team, so each week there were 50,000 people who couldn't give a fuck about the sport or have any interest in sportsmanship at all, they just want to sling shit and organise fights.
If people want to watch it (and they obviously do cos its the most popular game in the world) then so be it, but i refuse to acknowledge it as a sport when it has no qualitys of sport at all.

Qkkid

27th June 2006, 10:40

On the news this morning postie they showed a team practising faking fall overs.They are just overpaid actors i reckon

Big Dave

27th June 2006, 10:47

I'm a sports nut too - but I rarely watch a whole game. (Soccer or Rugby.)
The diving, hassling the referee and culture of Soccer I find really ugly.
I just follow the results.
Sounds like we wuz robbed last night.

The_Dover

27th June 2006, 10:50

Soccer Hooligans who bash a 10 year old for wearing an English strip in Scotland..?

They weren't soccer hooligans.

That was the traditional local welcome.

SimJen

27th June 2006, 10:51

sels1

27th June 2006, 11:01

Rugby is for violent meatheads, firmly ensconced in the culture of wife-beating and alcoholism.

Trolling again Jim?, or wouldnt your mummy let you play rugby when you were little

Postie

27th June 2006, 11:06

Postie, thats cause it was an Arsenal game.....go to any of the smaller clubs and its a lot better. All of the London clubs have crap atmospheres, its all about the money with them.
Sarge it wasn't soccer hooligans it was a lone Scottish nutter.....everybody knows they're mental :)
so its just my imagination that the news has been awash with football violence and riots at every world cup or large football tournament?
The fact that the Germans had to make it illegal to imitate any Nazi signs to stop the football supporters from luring the Germans into fights????

SimJen

27th June 2006, 11:13

Most of the violence still occurs during world cup or large tournaments like you say.
My favourite soccer is english premiership where violence rarely occurs these days. If it does happen its usually at a shit teams ground where the locals are known to be nutters.......only really a handful of teams, and none I would support.
I don't watch much anymore, I prefer to be there.
Motorsport is my main interest now, Rossi and the guys of Motogp will always be more exciting.
Any time the Germans and English are bought together there will always be tensions......the fact that Hitler decided to try and take over the world will be difficult to forget. Its also fun taking the piss out of them :)

James Deuce

27th June 2006, 11:21

Soccer Hooligans who bash a 10 year old for wearing an English strip in Scotland..?

yea.. super game.. give me motorsport anyday

anything less is just a kids game played by overpaid primadonnnas

SARGE!!! Irony routine ON please.

Geez. Flippin' Americans.

Sels = Well DUH! Only made it into a RUbgy team in 7th form and only because I finally sneaked over 40kg in weight. How I've grown since!

SARGE

27th June 2006, 11:26

SARGE!!! Irony routine ON please.

Geez. Flippin' Americans.

in case you didnt see the story (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006280502,00.html),,,

Squeak the Rat

27th June 2006, 11:28

I have been to English Premiership games, my boss had season tickets at Arsenal and i used to go most weeks, the atmosphere was shit, people only wanted to insult eachother and fight the other side cos they supported the other team, so each week there were 50,000 people who couldn't give a fuck about the sport or have any interest in sportsmanship at all, they just want to sling shit and organise fights.
If people want to watch it (and they obviously do cos its the most popular game in the world) then so be it, but i refuse to acknowledge it as a sport when it has no qualitys of sport at all.
You obviously don't like it. Why again did you used to go most weeks?

James Deuce

27th June 2006, 11:30

in case you didnt see the story (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006280502,00.html),,,
You didn't have to use MY quote to highlight it. I was making a flippant comment, and I've seen rugby player do worse, on and off the field. We won't talk about home invasion, rape, or trying cause a spontaneous abortion by beating your girlfriend about the torso, sticking fingers up other players anuses, or any of the other meathead behaviours "professional" rugby playersd bring to society. That wasn't my point, but if you want a deep and meaningful, bring it on.

Postie

27th June 2006, 11:31

You obviously don't like it. Why again did you used to go most weeks?
cos my boss asked me to go, i never enjoyed the game but the food and drinks were worth the 90 minutes. I like sport and i tried to like football, at least i gave it a try, a lot of people would just dismiss it with out having any knowledge or experience of the sport.

SARGE

27th June 2006, 11:34

You didn't have to use MY quote to highlight it. I was making a flippant comment, and I've seen rugby player do worse, on and off the field. We won't talk about home invasion, rape, or trying cause a spontaneous abortion by beating your girlfriend about the torso, sticking fingers up other players anuses, or any of the other meathead behaviours "professional" rugby playersd bring to society. That wasn't my point, but if you want a deep and meaningful, bring it on.

yea sorry man.. wasnt anything towards you... i just hit the button to reply.. i was just making a point about the fan hooliganism that seems rampant in Soccer..even the riots in Germany over the last few days over a FRIKKIN GAME...

not a huge fan of any of the ball sports personally, but if you put a set of slicks and a supercharger on it.. im all over it.

maybe if we changed the rules of soccer to be played in a minefield i might tune in

bullfighting is cool too

Squeak the Rat

27th June 2006, 11:34

give me motorsport anyday

anything less is just a kids game played by overpaid primadonnnas

Unlike F1, MotoGP, WRC, SBK. Those guys have a hard job paying the mortgage on their shacks in Monaco........

[Edit]
maybe if we changed the rules of soccer to be played in a minefield i might tune in
:killingme

The_Dover

27th June 2006, 11:36

You didn't have to use MY quote to highlight it. I was making a flippant comment, and I've seen rugby player do worse, on and off the field. We won't talk about home invasion, rape, or trying cause a spontaneous abortion by beating your girlfriend about the torso, sticking fingers up other players anuses, or any of the other meathead behaviours "professional" rugby playersd bring to society. That wasn't my point, but if you want a deep and meaningful, bring it on.

If you could make the distinction between rugby union and rugby league you might realise most of this shit was league players.

As for football hooliganism, the organised thuggery should be open season for the armed pigs, but a lot of the pissed up fights would occur anywhere with that many pissed up guys in such a confined space.

The_Dover

27th June 2006, 11:38

in case you didnt see the story (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006280502,00.html),,,

Nice Sarge, linking to the SUN is like giving some credit to The Truth, or whatever that shite rag is. (not the Herald for a change!)

As for the story itself, it's fuck all to do with football and just the anti-english sentiment that is rife in Scotland (coupled with more pissed tramps roaming the streets than there are Asians on Queen St.)

TwoSeven

27th June 2006, 11:58

Don't get me wrong, I think the individual player skills exhibited at the highest level are fantastic - but the game is rubbish.

Many (most?) games seem to comprise 90 minutes of aimlessly kicking the ball around only to be decided by one or two pieces of luck (for the winning team) verses one or two pieces of back luck (for the losing team).

And I believe there is a clear double standard when it comes to the foul rule. Free kicks seem to be dished out habitually for the most minor confrontations and incidents when committed in the general field of play but rarely for the same or even major incidents in the penalty area. I suspect this is because if they were, the game would consist of nothing more than a series of penalty shots, and the referee would have even more influence on the outcome than he does now.

I'm actually a sports nut - any sports - but soccer just frustrates me. Why is it so popular?

I feel the same way about rugby, however, having played both games, and made an attempt to understand the rules of rugby and its very subtle tactics, I still think its rather boring most of the time. However, this may have something to do with the fact that its thrashed to death on the tv every 5 seconds. I cant see the point in watching a game when everyone knows the all-blacks will always win it, and 3rd rate nations will have any good players taken by the 1st rate countries.

Did you know that the most expensive defender is football was recently brought for approx nz$100m - that would, I suspect purchase the all-blacks for several decades - it would probably purchase all of the rugby teams that will play in the rugby world cup.

The game is popular because anyone can play it. Its also way more difficult that rugby ever will be.

Oscar

27th June 2006, 12:40

So did you guys struggle as they were tying you to the chair to watch the Football?

To put it another way, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT - DON'T FUCKING WATCH IT!

Is your life so sad that you have to watch stuff you don't like on TV and then come here and witter about it...??

The_Dover

27th June 2006, 12:42

Is your life so sad that you have to watch stuff you don't like on TV and then come here and witter about it...??

Well for the past four weeks it has been yes.

Oscar

27th June 2006, 12:44

Well for the past four weeks it has been yes.

So, you get up at 4am to watch sport you hate?

The_Dover

27th June 2006, 12:46

I'm incontinent. I watch it as I pee.

Oscar

27th June 2006, 12:47

I'm incontinent. I watch it as I pee.

For 90 minutes?

GR81

27th June 2006, 12:47

Its a refreshing change to see another sport on the TV for once.
football, tennis, golf... its on ESPN 24/7 , cant get away from it!
you can hardly say football if on tv for 'a change'

The_Dover

27th June 2006, 12:49

I drink a lot.

Oscar

27th June 2006, 12:50

I drink a lot.

Drink more.
At some point of inebriation, any sport is fascinating.

Paul in NZ

27th June 2006, 13:13

Drink more.
At some point of inebriation, any sport is fascinating.

Christ I don't think I could drink enough to make womens golf fascinating.. In fact mens golf would probably put me past life...

Jamezo

27th June 2006, 13:23

Unfortunately football spoils their own game with that stupid penalty shootout thingy - what a joke!
Each team should have to keep playing for endless extra time until a winning score is achieved.
The fittest and best skilled team would then be the winner. The spectators win as well with more value for their $$'s.

What a load of tripe, they should obviously just keep playing until one of them catches the Golden Snitch.

Beemer

27th June 2006, 13:28

Why is it so popular?

The guys wear shorter shorts and have much better legs than thugby players. And do I need to mention the lack of cauliflower ears?

At least I can understand soccer - thugby just seems to be about either running or diving over the line - not a lot of skill from where I stand.

GR81

27th June 2006, 14:00

i have trouble working out the offside rule... so do the commentators sometimes!

sels1

27th June 2006, 14:02

The guys wear shorter shorts and have much better legs than thugby players. And do I need to mention the lack of cauliflower ears?.
As someone who has spent the last 5 seasons coaching college girls 1st 15 rugby I can assure you none of those players fit either yours or Jims descriptions! Many were high acheivers and are now doing well at university level.
I played for years and have been involved with coaching males and females at many levels. The good thing about rugby is it can accomodate different shapes and sizes. Tall skinny locks, solid built props, midget halfbacks, leggy wingers and everything inbetween - all pulling together in a team sport. I can tell many stories how young "less-than-perfect-shape" teens were able to contribute in a team enviroment, getting fit, building self esteem, and getting new respect from their peers - not to mention burning off a few excessive hormones!
Sure there is a small percentage of dickheads in rugby, as there is in any group of people, even bikers.

At least I can understand soccer .
yes, its a simple game .......

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thugby just seems to be about either running or diving over the line - not a lot of skill from where I stand.

Bet you dont understand cricket or chess either....

SimJen

27th June 2006, 14:05

football, tennis, golf... its on ESPN 24/7 , cant get away from it! you can hardly say football if on tv for 'a change'

Its hardly ever on the standard domestic channels! Rugby on the other hand is always on domestic tv, constantly over rules all other sports on the news and often the news itself, constantly on the radio, seemingly the only topic of conversation at morning and afternoon tea or in the lift or whatever/wherever. The whole nations psyche is ruled by it........AB's do well the country is happy, they lose and its like the world has ended.....quite pathetic as its only a damn game.
NO I don't think Football is always on TV!
As for ESPN, they only really put on the euro matches generally not english premier league soccer as that is on Sky sport 1/2...
Motogp should be compulsory watching for all people....

GR81

27th June 2006, 14:08

As for ESPN, they only really put on the euro matches generally not english premier league soccer.
i beg to differ... when the barclays cup was on... they (chan 10-13) repeated games late afternoon everyday from the previous day. used to come home every day and watch the last 1/2 of a game.

Motogp should be compulsory watching for all people...i dont dispute that comment :D

SimJen

27th June 2006, 14:13

i beg to differ... when the barclays cup was on... they (chan 10-13) repeated games late afternoon everyday from the previous day. used to come home every day and watch the last 1/2 of a game.
i dont dispute that comment :D

Still its not on domestic tv all the time :)

As for Motogp.....I wish it was although the wife might have to switch over the E! channel :nono:

GR81

27th June 2006, 14:19

E! is the devil! (along with telecom) :@

Winston001

27th June 2006, 14:28

TwoSeven

27th June 2006, 15:16

What a load of tripe, they should obviously just keep playing until one of them catches the Golden Snitch.

They do, penalty shootouts are normally only used because its costs a shyte load of money to book a channel on a satilite for an unknown period of time. They have to provide footage for several billion people - not a couple of lads down the back of a country pub that rugby does.

TwoSeven

27th June 2006, 15:23

i have trouble working out the offside rule... so do the commentators sometimes!

Really simple. If a chap is in the oppositions half and between the last opposition player and the goal when the ball is played - he is offside.

The only difference now is that they dont take into account people that are not inovled in the game, so people walking back to get onside or injured people. If the ball is played to them or they dont get out of the way of play, then its called interfering and they automatically offside.

Thats probably the only real rule of the game.

Postie

27th June 2006, 15:23

from todays Herald

" MELBOURNE - Australia was in a state of disbelief today after the Socceroos' incredible World Cup soccer journey ended in heartbreak.

A highly dubious stoppage time penalty earned Italy a 1-0 victory over Australia in the second round in Germany, reducing thousands watching the game in public arenas to silence and even tears."

i can't believe that people break down to tears for the fact that there team lost, i know that every country has supporters that will cry when there team is out, but how fucking pathetic is that???? its just a game. Do you see Rossi supporters crying when he doesn't win, or Suzuki supporters crying when yet another blows up during the race, or even Aussie rugby fans crying when they lost the rugby world cup? c'mon, there's worse things going on in the world then loosing a game of football.

GR81

27th June 2006, 15:37

Really simple. If a chap is in the oppositions half and between the last opposition player and the goal when the ball is played - he is offside.doesnt it depend where the ball is at the time he picks it up and which foot he is standing on and which way the wind is blowing?

c'mon, there's worse things going on in the world then loosing a game of football.like the price of fish on sundays? :P

Big Dave

27th June 2006, 17:27

Motogp should be compulsory watching for all people....

Fuck that!
Monkey boy and unobtainable machines - SBK at least has bikes I know what they are.

Oscar

27th June 2006, 17:31

Fuck that!
Monkey boy and unobtainable machines - SBK at least has bikes I know what they are.

I don't see any Buells or Trumpy's out there...

Big Dave

27th June 2006, 17:32

from todays Herald

" MELBOURNE - Australia was in a state of disbelief today after the Socceroos' incredible World Cup soccer journey ended in heartbreak.

or even Aussie rugby fans crying when they lost the rugby world cup? c'mon, there's worse things going on in the world then loosing a game of football.

The vast majority of Aussies follow League and AFL.
Union & Soccer draw smaller crowds that the Basketball.
Was mainly the european immigrants/1st generation tearing up - the Aussie team has 7 Croatians.

Big Dave

27th June 2006, 17:33

I don't see any Buells or Trumpy's out there...

Yeah but I know what an R1 is and where i can get one.
Same as that Formula1 bullshit - gimme the V8s any day.

Oscar

27th June 2006, 17:35

Yeah but I know what an R1 is and where i can get one.
Same as that Formula1 bullshit - gimme the V8s any day.

V8s?
You gotta to be joking.
Those things bear as much resemblance to the cars sold to the public as you do to Valentino Rosso...

Big Dave

27th June 2006, 17:52

like the price of fish on sundays? :P

All I said was this piece of Hallibut is good enough for Jehovah.

SimJen

27th June 2006, 19:27

Fuck that!
Monkey boy and unobtainable machines - SBK at least has bikes I know what they are.

Motogp bikes are effectively all around us. The new Ducati RR is a motogp bike for the street. The Yamaha M1 is similar to an R1 and the R6 draws on the technology. The greenie Kwaka has direct links to the ZX-10R etc etc.
They all have two wheels and GP racing gives us new thinking and performance for road bikes.
SBK is cool but will never be the top rank of motorcycle racing, it'll always be Motogp's poorer cousin.

Yeah but I know what an R1 is and where i can get one.
Same as that Formula1 bullshit - gimme the V8s any day.

V8's suck, they have locked diffs, completely different suspension setups to the road cars, 1940's engine technology that is tuned to the hilt. They only have a passing resemblance to the overweight/out of date junk you buy in the showrooms.
Some good racing though, but it was better when it had more manufacturers involved, back when Godzilla was cleaning up.

Big Dave

27th June 2006, 19:54

well, actually, thinking about it - I haven't actually watched any V8's at all since Brock was on poll - same with the GP and Doohan.
They lost me in the hype and the gawd awful commentary.
Superbikes has the sound turned off to be bearable too.

Winston001

28th June 2006, 13:52

PuppetMaster

28th June 2006, 13:59

Rugby is rubbish

emaN

28th June 2006, 14:06

After watching the Italy v Aussie game being decided by a lousy refereeing decision I'd have to agree.

so,
an incompetent aussie defender hurls himself at Grosso & never makes contact with the ball
so then he decides to raise his LEFT arm into contact with Grosso's LEFT leg
and it's a "lousy decision"?!

right.

(i'm not picking on you; yours is the 1st post that mentions it, that's all...)

RadioSport was pissing me off on Tuesday. All day their news updates included "Australia dominated the game; controversial decision in injury time"....what the?!

It may look like "aimless" passing... but most of the time goals are scored due to the very space & opportunities these "aimless" passes create.

Ah, the beautiful game.

Sure, some players do nothing for the image of football when they dive all over the show... But 80% of the time, it's a beautiful game!

FORZA AZZURRI!!!

PuppetMaster

28th June 2006, 14:11

so,an incompetent aussie defender hurls himself at Grosso & never makes contact with the ball

You have to smile at the naivety of the Aussies. You lie down in front of an Italian in the box, what the hell do you think is gonna happen.

Big Dave

28th June 2006, 14:17

Big Dave, son of Deuteronomy of Gath - You have been found guilty by the elders of the forum of uttering the name of our Lord, and decrying the Beautiful Game, and so, as a blasphemer,.... YOU ARE TO BE STONED TO DEATH.

Couple of flats and a bag of gravel thanks.

Nah - world cup OD well before the Aus v Ital game.

I love basketball - a goal (or attempt) every 24 seconds and 100+ points the target.

1-0 results and the diving, theatrical cheats and the way they manhandle the ref in soccer has started to piss me off.

Ugly game it has become.

emaN

28th June 2006, 14:22

lie down in front of an Italian, what the hell do you think is gonna happen.

my mrs could probly give you an answer

:blip:

GR81

28th June 2006, 16:47

got sent this just before... thought it was super funny. (possibly repost but meh!)

Oscar

28th June 2006, 18:07

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie - 0-1, 0-1, 0-1.....

PuppetMaster

28th June 2006, 18:14

hehe. I remember seeing that vid around Euro 2004.

Check out this ref....

Big Dave

28th June 2006, 18:35

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie - 0-1, 0-1, 0-1.....

Thank goodness all that dribble is over.
Isn't State of Origin is on tonight?
Carn the maggots.

No just looked - next week.

Carn the White Sox.

The Pastor

28th June 2006, 18:38

I like to watch and play soccer, (its the best game to play with out having to worry about field space/ number of players) but in the world cup I hate it when they pretend to be hurt from the fouls, bunch of women.

Big Dave

28th June 2006, 18:40

dawnrazor

28th June 2006, 19:39

soccer, soccer, no one calls it soccer - well apart from the yanks, the aussies and now the kiwis, it would seem -its football, its always been football and always will be fooball and unless your born in a football nation and brought up around it, then it s hard to fathom.

Anything apart from international rugby leaves me cold, but I'd watch any game of football anywhere at anytime......now if you could somehow introduce power sports into the mix then I'd go nuts!

boomer

28th June 2006, 19:53

Heard about the new wine all the ozzies are raving about....

a nice little red.. ....

{ozzie voice] nofukinwaythatsapenalty

wine/whine... meh

GO ON ENGLAND

Pathos

28th June 2006, 20:02

Rugby has its actors, anyone remember when O'Driscoll went down clutching his throat after being tapped on the chest by Flavil ? Got a nice penalty under the sticks for that scene.

Football does have its problems. But I'm still 50-50 over the Aussie/Italy decision, no he didn't trip him up but he was the last man and made sure the attacker wasn't going past him with the ball.

Flatcap

28th June 2006, 20:17

Rugby has its actors, anyone remember when O'Driscoll went down clutching his throat after being tapped on the chest by Flavil ? Got a nice penalty under the sticks for that scene.
.

The sooner 'diving' is stamped out of both Rugby and Football the better - if I want to see bad acting I would watch Shortland Street, or a school play, or debating in Parliament.....

TwoSeven

28th June 2006, 20:17

If you read the contents of this thread so far, you all may see why football is so popular.

Spectator participation.

Beemer

29th June 2006, 10:01

As someone who has spent the last 5 seasons coaching college girls 1st 15 rugby I can assure you none of those players fit either yours or Jims descriptions! ...Sure there is a small percentage of dickheads in rugby, as there is in any group of people, even bikers.

Bet you dont understand cricket or chess either....

Firstly, there are still plenty of cauliflower ears on players, including the All Blacks. Good on girls who want to play rugby - but as far as I'm concerned, the 'culture' of rugby has a long way to go to improve its image. And I'm not talking about Tana (who is a genuinely lovely guy, as is Alama Iremia) and the handbag, I'm talking about the drinking, and the violence that often erupts on field at the grass roots level. And don't get me started on how much of my taxes goes towards paying for rugby injuries.

I've played chess for years - and won many games. It's not what I'd consider a sport though. And I don't personally like cricket - not because of any lack of understanding about how it's played, more the lack of understanding why grown men (and women) dress up in long pants and jumpers to play a game in the hot sun. Must have been invented by the British...

Each to his or her own, I guess, but I can't figure out why so many rugby lovers give soccer players and supporters such a hard time. Their usual comment is that it's a "poof's game". I don't subscribe to that view, it's a highly skilled game played - in many countries - by professionals.

GR81

29th June 2006, 10:04

Isn't State of Origin is on tonight?
Wednesday night, 5th july :D

yanks call it soccer cause football will always be american football over there... and there is no changing that!

GR81

29th June 2006, 10:06

If you read the contents of this thread so far, you all may see why football is so popular.
Spectator participation.
yea, even tho im not a big fan of foozeball, id still love to go to a game in europe... the atmosphere would be electric!
and their chants are mint... better than "caaaannntteeeerrrrbbbbrrryyyyyyy" etc
even the AFL has team songs!

Big Dave

29th June 2006, 10:09

Heard about the new wine all the ozzies are raving about....

I'm amazed you could hear it over all the excuses being made for your Rugby and Cricket teams.

Big Dave

29th June 2006, 10:14

even the AFL has team songs!

But its so embarrasing when the take the camera into the change rooms and film them signing it.

The cricket team has a much better tradition.
It's a like haka Boonie started - done AFTER a victory:

'Underneath the Southern Cross I stand
A sprig of Wattle in me hand
A native of me native land
Australia - you fucking beauty!'

GR81

29th June 2006, 10:24

bah!
Go Essendon! :blah:

boomer

29th June 2006, 10:27

I'm amazed you could hear it over all the excuses being made for your Rugby and Cricket teams.

hear it.. hear it.. i can taste it :nya:

Big Dave

29th June 2006, 11:15

bah!
Go Essendon! :blah:

I have a carlton jersey on my wall.

Fight you for the wooden spoon then.

Oscar

29th June 2006, 11:17

I have a carlton jersey on my wall.

It's probably the smartest thing it has ever been draped on...

GR81

29th June 2006, 11:23

I have a carlton jersey on my wall.
Fight you for the wooden spoon then.
we had front row seats at an Essendon game last year... they won!!! was a mint afternoon out... anyone travelling to melbourne, i thoroughly reccomend going to a game :)
pics attached.

Big Dave

29th June 2006, 11:29

It's probably the smartest thing it has ever been draped on...

Ya don't need brains to roost a footy bruvva.

Big Dave

29th June 2006, 11:30

they won!!! was a mint afternoon out

Yeah - but anyone can beat freemantle.

GR81

29th June 2006, 11:34

Yeah - but anyone can beat freemantle.
yup, but it was Kevin Sheedy's 25th anniversary game as Essondon's head coach.
how many coaches in professional sport can say they have coached the same team for (now) 26 years!?!
pretty impressive :P

*Big Dave & GR81 hijack yet another thread*

go the Yankees!

Big Dave

29th June 2006, 11:38

*Big Dave & GR81 hijack yet another thread*

go the Yankees!

Go sheeds (grudgingly).

It's not like were hijacking Tolstoy or something.

GR81

29th June 2006, 11:42

It's not like were hijacking Tolstoy or something.
isnt he the cleanup hitter for the Mets? (jks)

Big Dave

29th June 2006, 11:49

isnt he the cleanup hitter for the Mets? (jks)

HAve you been watching Ozzie Guilian (sp) stick his foot in his gob repeatedly over the last week? Priceless!

GR81

29th June 2006, 11:58

HAve you been watching Ozzie Guilian (sp) stick his foot in his gob repeatedly over the last week? Priceless!
too much shit about nothing i rekon... Ozzie is a great Manager and should be left alone!
whats with the bullshit 'sensitivity training' he was meant to do... cant teach a dog new tricks, leave him alone! haha

bloody PC world we live in :(

Biff

2nd July 2006, 07:51

Delhi - India (here) Ingulrand V Porturgirl Hundreds of yocals suporting Ingurland in the yocal bar. I was pished (still am). A couple of Portugirl (yocal) supporters called Rooney a wanker. They were linched by the Ingurland supporters. Blood n gore abound. Makes me feel like home. Every time Singirland missed a goal etc - hundreds of eyes looked at me to see what my reaction would be (coz I'm white I guess). Rugby rocks. But soccer is always good for a good off the pitch ruck. Pished - and now the last thing I fancy is a curry. Anyone fancy an English?

rogson

2nd July 2006, 18:23

Even the head of FIFA thinks its rubbish, but he can't admit that............so he blames the referees.

Big Dave

2nd July 2006, 19:58

Even the head of FIFA thinks its rubbish, but he can't admit that............so he blames the referees.

The best thing is the highlights package - all the goals and swan dives in a 2 minute montage. Thats OK.

120 minutes for no result is rubbish.

Take men off each team at the end or regulation I reckon.

NSR-Dan

11th July 2006, 20:15

V8's suck, they have locked diffs, completely different suspension setups to the road cars, 1940's engine technology that is tuned to the hilt. They only have a passing resemblance to the overweight/out of date junk you buy in the showrooms.
Some good racing though, but it was better when it had more manufacturers involved, back when Godzilla was cleaning up.[/QUOTE]

V8s suck?? what about the Typhoon, wait thats a 6 cylinder turbo, hahahaha v8's must suck.

here is some info when i worked for ford. the XR8 put out i think (if i can remember) 260kw, and the XR6 turbo put out 240 or 245kw some where round that. funny how the HSV clubsport was 235kw less than the ford V6

one more thing the XR8's engine was tuned to the hilt, when the 6cyl turbo was derestricted so much that if you chipped it, new exhaust and air filter it could get to about 270kw. when we dynoed one car it had 304kw, oh but it had a larger front intercooler, and the boost had been cranked up.