Shittiest looking bucket [Archive]

dangerous

3rd July 2006, 18:21

I just found this quote below from k14 reguarding Gavs bucket

on another note, I think we have a new winner for shittiest looking bucket.

Now I tend to disagree... ya see I vote for K14's bucket (14) TonyB's (9) is a very close runner up however it now has a stuning new red paint job and a fancy chamber.

The name 'Bucket' comes from the term 'a bucket of shit' Which bike is the shitiest people and by all means if you have a beter shitiest bucket in mind post it up... Who has the 'shittiest looking bucket'

bladez

3rd July 2006, 18:25

didnt think it was what the bucket looked like as long as it went :scooter: its a good cheap form of racing and to get in to big bikes just like the bucklys and sherif started out on buckets now look at them well thats my 2c :rockon:

Kickaha

3rd July 2006, 18:27

TonyB's (9) is a very close runner up however it now has a stuning new red paint job and a fancy chamber.

So he's trying to make it even slower then :bleh:

SwanTiger

3rd July 2006, 18:49

Late entry... :blip:

diesel pig

3rd July 2006, 18:55

I don't understand they look alright to me.

Ivan

3rd July 2006, 19:03

myne is a candidate

dangerous

3rd July 2006, 20:20

Late entry... :blip:
Thats one sorry arsed looking sack a shit swanny... but I reckon this award shoud go to a bike that is a runner and is raced. :scooter:

TonyB

3rd July 2006, 20:29

So he's trying to make it even slower then :bleh:
Seems that way, doesn't it?

Usually the last race in a meeting is a non-points race, so everyone swaps bikes and has some fun. Nobody ever wants to try mine...:confused:

gav

3rd July 2006, 20:51

Thats one sorry arsed looking sack a shit swanny... but I reckon this award shoud go to a bike that is a runner and is raced. :scooter:
err, so why the fark is my one included then? :wait:

SwanTiger

3rd July 2006, 22:03

swanny.kiwibiker.co.nz

there are pics of it at the track running!

got wheelie videos, but people complain about my shorts.

TygerTung

4th July 2006, 03:33

Fuck no mine is way more rat, it'd the roughest thing around!

RantyDave

4th July 2006, 06:03

The first one, the Honda, is a clear winner. Not because it's a Honda, but because any bike with a bolt sticking up where my nuts may well end up is clearly a complete piece of shit.

Astounding, I'm impressed.

Dave

dangerous

4th July 2006, 06:12

swanny.kiwibiker.co.nz
there are pics of it at the track running!
Awesome swanny, think my vote goes your way... I'll put a poll up aye, hurry up and get the nomanese in folk... TT pic please. :scooter:

diesel pig

4th July 2006, 18:48

I don't get it. They all look perfectly presentable me.

dangerous

4th July 2006, 19:24

I don't get it. They all look perfectly presentable me.
Which is more than I can say about ya new bucket... its white man, just dosnt suit :gob:
and whats its name going to be? sottie?

Skunk

4th July 2006, 19:39

Makes mine look quite tidy. Hmmm, have to fix that.

Hey Swanny, got a spare keyboard lying around? (pt)

SwanTiger

4th July 2006, 19:53

Makes mine look quite tidy. Hmmm, have to fix that.

Hey Swanny, got a spare keyboard lying around? (pt)

YES.

$4.25 NZ Post, PM me for bank details. Keyboard is free.

diesel pig

4th July 2006, 22:00

Which is more than I can say about ya new bucket... its white man, just dosnt suit :gob:
and whats its name going to be? sottie?

It's undercoat yer pickie old woman! She will get a paint after she wins her first race, so that should be after the 23th of July oh yeah

dangerous

5th July 2006, 06:54

It's undercoat yer pickie old woman! She will get a paint after she wins her first race, so that should be after the 23th of July oh yeah
Old woman! I'll teach you stumpy.... painted the bike for ya, I know you will love it, just hope the rest of the feild dont beat ya up :nya:

ps: its so you, now for a certain FXR paint job

diesel pig

5th July 2006, 17:15

Old woman! I'll teach you stumpy.... painted the bike for ya, I know you will love it, just hope the rest of the feild dont beat ya up :nya:

ps: its so you, now for a certain FXR paint job

Ah! That says alot more about your tastes than mine. Duckie!:blip:

Bren_chch

14th July 2006, 23:47

na, mine was worse than all them! :scooter:

TonyB

15th July 2006, 08:14

na, mine was worse than all them! :scooter:
Yeah but you never get up early enough to make sign in and scrutineering:nya:
Update on my old shitter. Stanko is lending me some NZ250 17" wheels. Got most of the bits required to fit them now, just need to find some slicks (and some riding ability wouldn't go amiss either:scooter: ). We also chucked a flatslide carb on- went from not being able to pull top gear at the last round to pulling it up a hill. So with a bit of luck she should be a much improved shitter!

diesel pig

15th July 2006, 21:38

Yeah but you never get up early enough to make sign in and scrutineering:nya:
Update on my old shitter. Stanko is lending me some NZ250 17" wheels. Got most of the bits required to fit them now, just need to find some slicks (and some riding ability wouldn't go amiss either:scooter: ). We also chucked a flatslide carb on- went from not being able to pull top gear at the last round to pulling it up a hill. So with a bit of luck she should be a much improved shitter!

So where did you find a 24mm flatside carb Tonyb?

dangerous

15th July 2006, 21:44

So where did you find a 24mm flatside carb Tonyb?
I know I know pick me pick me, believe it or not but its all legit:scooter:

TonyB

16th July 2006, 08:18

So where did you find a 24mm flatside carb Tonyb?
:innocent: OK OK, its not quite a 24mm.....its a 28 off a TZR250. BUT before anyone gets all shitty about it, allow me to explain why the intake is still very much restricted to 24mm, and why I used the flatslide.

The intake port from the carb to the rotary valve is 24mm. It's also not straight and about 30 or 40mm deep. So despite having a 28mm carb, the engine has to breath through a 24mm, slightly kinked hole at least 30mm deep. So as far as El Presedente and I are concerned, this makes the carb legal. In fact I reckon I'd be better off with a proper 24mm, cause the airflow will be slower through the 28mm, then it hits a sudden step from 28mm to 24mm, which can't be good for performance. Thinking about it, when the air hits the 24mm bit, it will speed up thus dropping the air pressure and causing some of the fuel to condense.

So why did I use the 28mm flatslide? Cause its the only carb bigger than the old 22mm which fits into the rubber spigot without needing to be modified in some way. Its a tight fit, but it does fit, and the first jet we tried worked perfectly.

So in short it was easy, painless and still within the rules. I really don't think its likely, but if it ends up being faster than everyone elses, then I guess we'll need to rethink things to slow it down a bit. The riders 'talent' and the bikes handling pretty much guarantee that it won't be anywhere near the front anyway.

The problem I have at the moment is that it's too fast to be back with the one or two unmodifieds, but too slow to be remotely near the front. Last year I could race with 3 or 4 bikes at a time. I figured I was on the right track so I enlisted Stanko to help me cure the death wobbles. This year I turn up at the track to find that either I'm slower or everyone else is faster. I can't race it as a stock bike anymore, so my only option is to find more speed.

Kickaha

16th July 2006, 09:28

So as far as El Presedente and I are concerned, this makes the carb legal

Well you're both wrong then,and neither you nor El Presedente make the rules MNZ do!
:bleh:

So in short it was easy, painless and still within the rules.

not really, if it is 28mm then it's not even close in fact

Rule 24.2.4, F4 two stroke engines over104cc are restricted to carburation equivalent to a single 24mm carburettor

nothing to do with inlet tract size, it is all to do with carb size

TonyB

16th July 2006, 09:47

Re-he-heeeeeeeeeally? Tell me, since it can't suck anymore air than what it will through a 24mm carb, whats the difference? Am I not right in thinking that there is a 125cc 2 stroke bike in Chch that is using not only a carb bigger than 24mm, but a competition piston as well? My understanding is that the bike in question has a restrictor on the carb.

dangerous

16th July 2006, 09:51

:innocent: OK OK, its not quite a 24mm.....its a 28 off a TZR250.

So as far as El Presedente and I are concerned, this makes the carb legal.

Its off a RG250 Tony.

I dont give a rats arse if its legal or not, would be a different story if Tony was leading the feild but even if he was to biff a 650 Holly on the bike its still not going to be any faster.
We all have our wee 'go a bit faster bits' I have a worked engine, kick has a modern bike, diesel has the balls of a elephant, hell the GP100LC has a 36mm carb... DC has a race proven frame...yes all liget but so what, actually the bike I'd query is DC's its now a 125 and has a carb bigger than a 24mm... once again so what if you were to put a Solex carb on it he'd still lead the pack.

TonyB

16th July 2006, 09:58

I firmly believe in following the rules. If my carb is illegal I'll either have to decrease the venturi size some how (bog??, kneadit???) or turn down the spigot of the VM24SS carb I've got. However I can't see how it can be illegal, if I put a 24mm carb on it, it will still get the same lungful of air each time, cause the limiting factor is the inlet tract.

Or I could track down a 100cc head and barrell, and tune the living fuck out of it...Hell pistons are cheap for me, I could go through one every couple of rounds...

stanko

16th July 2006, 10:05

OK so it looks like we may have opened the family size can of worms here.

Kickaha

16th July 2006, 10:10

I dont give a rats arse if its legal or not

Lucky you dont make the rules then :finger:

We all have our wee 'go a bit faster bits' I have a worked engine, kick has a modern bike, diesel has the balls of a elephant, hell the GP100LC has a 36mm carb... DC has a race proven frame...yes all liget

Yes correct all legit, which is the point you seem to be missing, a 28mm carb on a bike over 104cc isn't

but so what,

Well then you wont mind if I make my bike a 200cc, or turbo a 125, if you're going to let one person break the rules then it must be open slather for everyone

actually the bike I'd query is DC's its now a 125 and has a carb bigger than a 24mm...

Does it? I know he was trying to find one to make it legal ,if it isn't then it it shouldn't be getting points or racing, I make sure my bikes are legal and I know DP does to

However I can't see how it can be illegal

Which bit of this don't you understand

Rule 24.2.4, F4 two stroke engines over104cc are restricted to carburation equivalent to a single 24mm carburettor

TonyB

16th July 2006, 10:26

I believe its spelt 'rule'

Marknz

16th July 2006, 10:32

here's a few of the fugly aussie buckets to cast your eye over...

TonyB

16th July 2006, 10:56

Seriously then Kickaha, if it's illegal then it's illegal. I'll have to change it. I'm going to get hold of an MNZ official and get a final opinon. I'll probably have to race it the way it is this coming Sunday. IF it's illegal then just exclude me from the points. In the unlikely event that I'm up the front I'll make sure I keep out of the way. I find it amusing that no-ones worried about a bike with a CR125 piston and a big carb tho.

Edit: Just rang a grade 2 Marshall. He's not sure, I'll ring MNZ on Monday.

HONKEEE

16th July 2006, 11:09

those bikes all look better than the pist and broke guys. maybe you should see if they will buy them.

Kickaha

16th July 2006, 11:42

I find it amusing that no-ones worried about a bike with a CR125 piston and a big carb tho.

Pistons are open, we'll check the carb on the bike concerned next meeting

gav

16th July 2006, 13:02

Yeah Tony, CR piston is legal, check your rules.
The whole gray area is this bit

carburation equivalent to a single 24mm carburettor
It doesnt say a 24mm carb, it says "carburation equivalent" , I know this was written to cover the two stroke twins, but typical, rules are left to interpretation.
Why oh why don't the rules state that a single two stroke over 104cc shall run a maximum size car of 24mm? Instead its ambigious.....
The problem is that while TonyB may not be a hell of a lot faster what if someone else is and starts winning running a 125cc two stroke with a 32mm carb on it, then what?
Rules are rules, by all means try and clarify them, but you can't start turning a blind eye when it suits.

TonyB

16th July 2006, 13:38

Yeah Tony, CR piston is legal, check your rules.
The whole gray area is this bit Well bugger me, so it is! I was sure it said no competition engine parts.

Rules are rules, by all means try and clarify them, but you can't start turning a blind eye when it suits. Will definitely try and get it clarified. If anyone thinks I'm trying to bend the rules then they've got it all wrong. If its legal I'll use it, if not I'll modify the VM24SS to fit. People who bend or ignore rules ruin motorsport.

stanko

16th July 2006, 14:05

TonyB

16th July 2006, 14:20

Tony if it bothering you , Ill machine up an insert with 24mm inside diameter and we can press it into the carb. Instant legal and shouldnt affect performance because thats the size of the inlet spigot anyway.
Will it work with the slide? If you think it will then get thee to thy shed and machine like thou hast never machined before!
Can we press it in easily enough?

Or you could just say we made an insert.
Nope. It has to be legal.

Buddha#81

16th July 2006, 15:46

dangerous

16th July 2006, 17:53

Let all rip our bikes apart at the next meeting so we see who cheating or not! I feel this sort of talk undermines the whole point of bucket racing, no one and I mean no one should break the rules. Buckets should be self governing if you want to cheat do so at your own peril. LETS RACE.
Fuking right there Spud............ HEY YOU, your suposed CB150S... can I please see the proof in writing from the correct sorce that it in fact does not exceed 150cc... like 150.0003cc is not legal :nya:

na, mine was worse than all them! :scooter:
Ok then... you asked for it Bren. (see attachment)
And I'll through a pic of the club slut (the bike everyone rides) for free aswell.

Cheers MarkNZ not bad.

Buddha#81

16th July 2006, 18:21

The bike in question was the brunt of some questions last season (all proven wrong at Levels when it shit itself an everone got to see how special it wasnt). "How can THAT bike be soooo fast"? Its down to a good rider on a good bike and knowing THAT rider as well as I do he would not intentionally break the rules. Anyone can ask HIM anything about THAT bike and it will be answered with the honest truth. Go on the doubters ask some question next sunday or will it all be said behind backs.

Kickaha

16th July 2006, 18:40

THAT rider as well as I do he would not intentionally break the rules.

I'd second that,as I remember talking to him after he lunched it and he was talking about finding a 24mm carb then or sleeving his down

you also have to remember he's a bit lighter than the rest of us and he certainly isn't cleaning up as easily as he used to,in fact after 2 rounds he isn't points leader

I'd query is DC's its now a 125 and has a carb bigger than a 24mm...

What size is it then?

diesel pig

16th July 2006, 20:00

What a can of worms my remark opened up! If people have a problem with other Bucket riders machines you can sort it out officialy by lodging a protest with Ray at the end of the next meeting but it will cost you $35 to lodge the protest and if the bike's legal you are liable all the costs establishing it's legality and bike mechanic's charge $50 a hour.I personally would hate to see that happen and I think this can be sorted out honourably by our president with some discretion on all sides.

dangerous

16th July 2006, 20:16

I think this can be sorted out honourably by our president with some discretion on all sides.
Just ride the fucking things :whocares:

Then again any problems let me know and I'll sort them out with my very fine team of Bucket Racing Motorcycle Club tribal council helpers

TonyB

16th July 2006, 20:27

You know what? All I have heard is heresay. I couldn't tell you what size the thing is. I shouldn't have even mentioned it cause I don't have the facts. Just as well I didn't mention names or even bikes, otherwise my conscience would be giving me a hiding. The guy in question has helped me out a few times and he's a good bloke, and a gifted rider. To be honest I was pretty dark when I heard he had a CR125 piston in his bike because I thought the rule was "no competition engine parts":angry: . I'm a fucken idiot for not taking the time to read the rules- somebody slap me round the head on Sunday ONLY ONE PERSON THOUGH:eyepoke: - but I've talked to a few people lately who also haven't read them or don't understand them, so I'm not alone there.

Look the point of this was to find out if putting the 28mm flatslide on is legal. If it's not its not. I assumed it would be legal, some other racers did too. A tuner I spoke to today, who has won a national title, was able to give convincing arguments for and against. Its a grey area- rules shouldn't have grey areas.

TonyB

16th July 2006, 20:34

What a can of worms my remark opened up!
Bloody oath! Be more careful with that bloody can opener in future. Can I assume that you believe there are no 24mm flatslides in existence?

I need a hug:grouphug: .... wheres Rashika and Speedygirl when I need them ::love: :devil2:

speights_bud

16th July 2006, 20:44

Back to the ugly bucket part of the thread...

believe it or not this managed to pass scrutineering (sp?)

gav

16th July 2006, 21:21

you also have to remember he's a bit lighter than the rest of us and he certainly isn't cleaning up as easily as he used to,in fact after 2 rounds he isn't points leader
Errr, yes he is!

Skunk

16th July 2006, 21:41

Back to the ugly bucket part of the thread...

believe it or not this managed to pass scrutineering (sp?)
What's this scrutineering you speak of? :innocent:

diesel pig

16th July 2006, 21:48

Bloody oath! Be more careful with that bloody can opener in future. Can I assume that you believe there are no 24mm flatslides in existence?

I need a hug:grouphug: .... wheres Rashika and Speedygirl when I need them ::love: :devil2:

No I have some 20mm flatsides and I have seen a RM80 with according to the spec sheet a 26mm flatside so I was wondering what you got a 24mm flatside carb off.

stanko

17th July 2006, 06:38

So if you restrict the slide opening on a 28 can you make it into the "carburation equivelent" of a 24 ?

dangerous

17th July 2006, 06:57

So if you restrict the slide opening on a 28 can you make it into the "carburation equivelent" of a 24 ?
Simple as... and the offer has been made already Tony :first:

SpeedyGirl

17th July 2006, 08:46

I need a hug:grouphug: .... wheres Rashika and Speedygirl when I need them ::love: :devil2:

One coming your way :grouphug: I'm sure Rashika will be not far behind :blip:
and if your a really good boy we might give you a hug at the same time...... make a Tony sandwich ;)

Rashika

17th July 2006, 13:53

One coming your way :grouphug: I'm sure Rashika will be not far behind :blip:
and if your a really good boy we might give you a hug at the same time...... make a Tony sandwich ;)
hehehe.... ah now WHAT a thought! :innocent:

TonyB

17th July 2006, 18:44

:woohoo: :devil2: :wait: :wait:

gav

17th July 2006, 19:24

So if you restrict the slide opening on a 28 can you make it into the "carburation equivelent" of a 24 ?
Not sure if its that simple, you could always buy a 24mm flatslide carb?
http://www.teamcalamari.com/dox/prod5.html
http://www.lambretta.net/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=185
http://www.sudco.com/mikuni3.html

speights_bud

17th July 2006, 20:10

What's this scrutineering you speak of? :innocent:

As far as 'bread boarding' all parts that would contact the track goes we don't gotta, our tracks too shite!

It looks a bit better now..

Buddha#81

17th July 2006, 20:27

Not sure if its that simple, you could always buy a 24mm flatslide carb?
http://www.teamcalamari.com/dox/prod5.html
http://www.lambretta.net/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=185
http://www.sudco.com/mikuni3.html

Why? A 40mm carb with a throat restriction of 24mm will only let the same amout of air to flow as a purpose designed 24mm carb, therefore no gain. Simple! Anyway who would spend more than $300 on a carb, thats more than most buckets are worth.

Buddha#81

17th July 2006, 20:33

As far as 'bread boarding' all parts that would contact the track goes we don't gotta, our tracks too shite!

It looks a bit better now..

Nice! Obviously the rule for safety gear is more relaxed up your way:gob: A jersey and tracky trou are a nice complement to the open faced helmet:blip:

speights_bud

17th July 2006, 21:04

yea that photo was taken sometime last year, now that they are starting to rund 3 rounds series the rules have toughened up alot! the guy pictured shouldn't even be on the track, no idea who he is but i know his he's got no feeling in his legs:gob: that'd explain why he doesn't push it that hard

Sketchy_Racer

17th July 2006, 21:12

that track looks like a bit of a hoot....

Ill have to come race one day :yes:

speights_bud

17th July 2006, 21:54

Well that might convince hXc and MSTRS into gettin g their buckets out again, meetings are second sunday of every month. Low gearing is highly reccomended(sp?)

Skunk

17th July 2006, 22:04

Well that might convince hXc and MSTRS into gettin g their buckets out again, meetings are second sunday of every month. Low gearing is highly reccomended(sp?)
I've walked the track. It's quite safe to do that on. Don't know about racing on it...

If you think the carpark we're using now is tight or rough you should see this!
Trail bikes should do well.

Bert

17th July 2006, 22:18

I've walked the track. It's quite safe to do that on. Don't know about racing on it...

If you think the carpark we're using now is tight or rough you should see this!
Trail bikes should do well.

Its not quite that bad, skunk. the few laps i did out there were humm interesting, must find some time to go back over and have a giggle. in saying that i must find some time to come back down to welly and ride the new bike now its going. maybe next month.:bye: as long as i stay upright next vic round

gav

18th July 2006, 07:05

Why? A 40mm carb with a throat restriction of 24mm will only let the same amout of air to flow as a purpose designed 24mm carb, therefore no gain. Simple! Anyway who would spend more than $300 on a carb, thats more than most buckets are worth.
$300? yeah right.....
Reread Stanko's post, he's mentioning restricting the slide opening not restricting the throat size.

Kickaha

18th July 2006, 08:39

$300? yeah right.....
Reread Stanko's post, he's mentioning restricting the slide opening not restricting the throat size.

Not here he isn't

Ill machine up an insert with 24mm inside diameter and we can press it into the carb. Instant legal and shouldnt affect performance because thats the size of the inlet spigot anyway. Or you could just say we made an insert.

Only place you could properly press it into the carb is on the engine side :nya:

TygerTung

18th July 2006, 12:21

If you put a 24mm restrictor plate in a 28mm carb it is only going to flow as much as a 24mm carb, thats why the rule says equivilent of a 24mm carb so you just have to restrict the opening.

speights_bud

18th July 2006, 18:21

Bike: AX100 bucket + KH 'sphecial' on the way

So i guess the Kh hasn't made it to you yet? if i knew it'd take this long i coulda had it personally delivered once or twice by now:)

gav

18th July 2006, 18:35

If you put a 24mm restrictor plate in a 28mm carb it is only going to flow as much as a 24mm carb, thats why the rule says equivilent of a 24mm carb so you just have to restrict the opening.
The rule regarding "equivalent" is in there to cater for two stroke twins, like a T90 or GT125 etc. It was discussed on here that the equivalent to a single 24mm carb, is actually something like 2 x 17mm, not 2 x 12mm as you'd possibly think? Wouldn't the intake side, the size of the slide etc have so bearing on how much a carb can actually err "carburette" ?

Skunk

18th July 2006, 19:04

So i guess the Kh hasn't made it to you yet? if i knew it'd take this long i coulda had it personally delivered once or twice by now
KH100 engine is here... two in fact. Yours was the better one. The other came with the remains of a frame. Thats the 'sphecial' bit. I'm learning to arc weld thin tube...

ajturbo

18th July 2006, 19:25

Well that might convince hXc and MSTRS into gettin g their buckets out again, meetings are second sunday of every month. Low gearing is highly reccomended(sp?)

sooo what's the date of the next one then????
and a map would help the direction challenged of us

Skunk

18th July 2006, 19:33

sooo what's the date of the next one then????
and a map would help the direction challenged of us
Head north on SH2. Cross the bridge into Waipawa and turn right at the end of the bridge. Don't pass the BP. Follow the track to the rail bridge. Look under it. There's the track on the riverbank.

My guess is the next one is 13 August.

Map from www.zoomin.co.nz (http://www.zoomin.co.nz/nz/central+hawkes+bay/waipawa/)

Ivan

18th July 2006, 22:55

ok that track is dodgy i thnk the sound track out the lake would be better for buckets

AKA beach racing

Bert

19th July 2006, 07:33

KH100 engine is here... two in fact. Yours was the better one. The other came with the remains of a frame. Thats the 'sphecial' bit. I'm learning to arc weld thin tube...

bloody hell, that KH motor has done more km than me over the last year....

TonyB

19th July 2006, 19:34

I'm sure this info has filtered thru the local KB grapevine, but just in case- my shitty looking bucket will hopefully be a much improved shitty looking bucket by Sunday.

I have scored some slicks, which Don at cycletreads fitted to the NZ250 rims that Stanko is lending me. Stanko also traded the infamous Flatslide carb for some worthless cra.... I mean highly useful bike bits. Many thanks to Andy Evans for putting up with my harrassment and finding a nice slick and selling it at a sharp price. And big thanks to Rod Hawles for going the extra mile and finding a slick when he didn't have one- he got hold of Brian Hardaker who gave Rod the slick which he then took home for me to collect.

Stanko then gave up his time yet again last night using his ridiculosly well equipped workshop to machine the various bits needed to make it all work. He finally kicked me out at 10:40pm last night, so I'll be back tomorrow night to finish the thing off. Theres no way I could have done this without Stanko's help.

God knows how it'll work out, we are having to make a crude ride height adjuster (plates with 'oles in em) for the rear end of the bike, cause it looks as tho all kinds of crap will drag on the gound. Thats the last step. Hopefully it's all worth the effort. Time will tell:wait: