Hyosung: There is... A NEW HOPE!!

[ZeroIndex]

OMG!! just came across this site.. I want EVERYTHING!!

argh.. so purrrrrty :gob: :D
HyosungRacing (http://www.americanlegendsmotorsports.com/parts.html)

[gav]

GT650R Race Engines:
These are (Track Only) Hyosung GT650R motors
744cc 155 hp at rear wheel.
Titanium cylinders, rods, cranks, race valves, head work bench flowed, fuel injection Required to deliver your donor machine all Cases are sealed with special locking head bolts. Any tampering voids build warranty
Current Hyosung Dealers or Race license with AMA, WERA, or CCS required to purchase.
$10,000.00
:gob:

[Lazy7]

GT650R Race Engines:
These are (Track Only) Hyosung GT650R motors
744cc 155 hp at rear wheel.
Titanium cylinders, rods, cranks, race valves, head work bench flowed, fuel injection Required to deliver your donor machine all Cases are sealed with special locking head bolts. Any tampering voids build warranty
Current Hyosung Dealers or Race license with AMA, WERA, or CCS required to purchase.
$10,000.00
:gob:

haha. they dont want to let you find out you just bought a over priced GSXR motor for your hyobag.

[cowpoos]

sounds like a 744cc grenade!!!

[Sparky Bills]

They are unreliable enough arnt they!?

[Macktheknife]

Cool video at top of page too,

[SpankMe]

Why the hell would anyone want to pay $9,500US to put a SV1000 engine into a Hyosung??? Just go buy a SV1000s and you'll have a much better bike.

[SwanTiger]

They are unreliable enough arnt they!?

Pfft.

Hyosung will become one of the leading manufacturer's in a matter of 5 - 10 years, faster than any of the jap companies.

Lots of American's are reporting engine problems with the GT 650's but the reality of it is that they put the wrong fuel in (i.e. 95 - 98 octane rather than 91).

I'm aware of one GT 650 racing in Europe and another in the US who are doing very well, there are probably more.

It's a pity that there 250 model lacks power, however, their 125 is capable of 110kmp/h with a weight of around 140kg's (basically a GT 250 frame), pretty impressive if you ask me.

$10k for a top Hyosung 650 engine is the same as a overly worked SV 650, I think - might be wrong - but in my opinion, Hyosung would be the better of the two.

I can't wait to see a Hyo GT 650 in F3 at a national level in NZ ... who wants to give me $20k?

[cowpoos]

Pfft.

Hyosung will become one of the leading manufacturer's in a matter of 5 - 10 years, faster than any of the jap companies.

Lots of American's are reporting engine problems with the GT 650's but the reality of it is that they put the wrong fuel in (i.e. 95 - 98 octane rather than 91).

I'm aware of one GT 650 racing in Europe and another in the US who are doing very well, there are probably more.

It's a pity that there 250 model lacks power, however, their 125 is capable of 110kmp/h with a weight of around 140kg's (basically a GT 250 frame), pretty impressive if you ask me.

$10k for a top Hyosung 650 engine is the same as a overly worked SV 650, I think - might be wrong - but in my opinion, Hyosung would be the better of the two.

I can't wait to see a Hyo GT 650 in F3 at a national level in NZ ... who wants to give me $20k?
theres one very compeditive gt650 in the F3 series at ruapuna...came second last year I believe at club level

[Two Smoker]

I can't wait to see a Hyo GT 650 in F3 at a national level in NZ ... who wants to give me $20k?

There is also a guy racing one who is in Vic Club... Im loving the 155hp though....

[SwanTiger]

I reckon they look better than the SV's anyway...

<img src="http://korider.com/Hyosung_GT650_Race_Bike.jpg">

and their semi-faired version of the GT 650 looks better than the SV as well, but nothing beats the fully faired GT 650R.

<img src="http://korider.com/img/forum/GT650S_2006.jpg">

[SwanTiger]

Interesting.

Stock the GT 650's put out 71 HP at the crank, I imagine the guy is running a stock bike if he is at Club level?

I gave some consideration to setting up a Hyo GT 125 for buckets, an exspensive setup (well, not really, less than $5k I estimated to get the bike and have it ready). The rationalisation for having an exspensive bike is the cost of racing, where it might be $30 - $50 a meet for Buckets it is $200 'ish for F3 (or so I'm told).

A pretty affordable hobby. Bike would be competitive too. USD forks, twin front discs, rear disc brake, adjustable mono shock, 120 front and 150 rear (if I recall correctly) tyre's, 3-way adjustable pegs... I could go on...


theres one very compeditive gt650 in the F3 series at ruapuna...came second last year I believe at club level

[Limb]

OMG!! just came across this site.. I want EVERYTHING!!

argh.. so purrrrrty :gob: :D
HyosungRacing (http://www.americanlegendsmotorsports.com/parts.html)

I agree with you ZeroIndex, I have done over 6K in the last couple of months.My GT650 is running mint. Now wheres my credit card. I want some new goodies.

[spudchucka]

So are these Hyosung machines just running SV donks supplied from the Suzuki factory?? Or are they some kind of cheap copy of a Suzuki motor?

[onearmedbandit]

but nothing beats the fully faired GT 650R

Now are you sure about that??


Sorry, I take that back after seeing they offer a carbon fibre cover for your fuel filler.

[Kickaha]

Stock the GT 650's put out 71 HP at the crank, I imagine the guy is running a stock bike if he is at Club level?


The guy down here was running a stock bike, although it did end up shitting itself before the end of least season

[skidMark]

omfg with race fairings a hyobag isn't completely fugly unlike the stock fugly mobile

[SwanTiger]

So are these Hyosung machines just running SV donks supplied from the Suzuki factory?? Or are they some kind of cheap copy of a Suzuki motor?

No, and Not really.

Hyosung have been around FOREVER developing/manufacturering for a lot of the large Japanese companies, such as Suzuki. A few years back, Hyosung decided to develop their own brand and make their own products. So the word is, a few of those involved in the research & development of Suzuki engines / bikes jumped aboard with Hyosung and helped steer their product line.

I might be ill-informed, but that is what I am led to understand.

The speculation/observation is that Hyosung are recycling qualities from all aspects of the motorcycle industry. They make good looking motorcycles and set or meet the standards - for sample, the GT 650's are similar to the SV 650's but the GT's have 1 HP more - however the SV engine has more of a refined design (obviously).

The GT 125 and 250 engines are a relatively "new" design and will be refined to excellence in a matter of another 2 - 5 years ( in my opinion ).

They've focused on cheaper manufacturering methods, such as the difference between vertical and horizontal splits. Consumables used, such as brake pads, shocks and forks, tyres, etc. are all pratical and not 'bling' - i.e. they do the job, to an extent.

The only common problem with the GT 650's is valve's shitting themselves. I've only heard/read of cases from those in American - go figure.

On korider.com there is one guy who apparently wrote about thrashing his bike and doing stupid things on a forum then claimed for the warranty when there was a related problem with the bike. The dealer happened to frequent that forum and refused to repair under warranty.

[SwanTiger]

Now are you sure about that??


Sorry, I take that back after seeing they offer a carbon fibre cover for your fuel filler.

In the looks department :nya:

SV 650 vs. GT 650 ... It really comes down to brand loyalty and personal preference.

[ZeroIndex]

No, and Not really.

Hyosung have been around FOREVER developing/manufacturering for a lot of the large Japanese companies, such as Suzuki. A few years back, Hyosung decided to develop their own brand and make their own products. So the word is, a few of those involved in the research & development of Suzuki engines / bikes jumped aboard with Hyosung and helped steer their product line.

I might be ill-informed, but that is what I am led to understand.

The speculation/observation is that Hyosung are recycling qualities from all aspects of the motorcycle industry. They make good looking motorcycles and set or meet the standards - for sample, the GT 650's are similar to the SV 650's but the GT's have 1 HP more - however the SV engine has more of a refined design (obviously).

The GT 125 and 250 engines are a relatively "new" design and will be refined to excellence in a matter of another 2 - 5 years ( in my opinion ).

They've focused on cheaper manufacturering methods, such as the difference between vertical and horizontal splits. Consumables used, such as brake pads, shocks and forks, tyres, etc. are all pratical and not 'bling' - i.e. they do the job, to an extent.

The only common problem with the GT 650's is valve's shitting themselves. I've only heard/read of cases from those in American - go figure.

On korider.com there is one guy who apparently wrote about thrashing his bike and doing stupid things on a forum then claimed for the warranty when there was a related problem with the bike. The dealer happened to frequent that forum and refused to repair under warranty.
that actually sounds about right..

[hXc]

It's a pity that there 250 model lacks power, however, their 125 is capable of 110kmp/h with a weight of around 140kg's (basically a GT 250 frame), pretty impressive if you ask me.

Impressive?!?! Bloody tank if you ask me! My VT250 Spada weighs less than that, and it's 18 years old!

[SwanTiger]

Impressive?!?! Bloody tank if you ask me! My VT250 Spada weighs less than that, and it's 18 years old!

I'm referring to the top speed in comparison to the engine capacity and type and the weight of the bike (150kg (just chcked) body with 14 HP and 125cc engine).

Imagine that minus extra weight = 120kg + 5kg for fairings (gotta look the shizzle) plus geared down to top out at 70kmp/h -- on a bucket track.

Not the most competitive, but competitive enough, and comfortable too.

[spudchucka]

No, and Not really.

Hyosung have been around FOREVER ...........
Cheers for that.

[Cleve]

Have been in and out of Korea over the years and noticed the older models are both Suzuki and Hyosung badged. The newer models are only Hyosung badged.
Bikes in Korea are generally two wheeled donkeys. Very few used for recreational use, most used for delivery. Which means basically abused with high miles in all kinds of extreme weather. So pretty reliable generally speaking. Like their cars the Koreans are catching up to the Japanese in sophstication and style as well.

[bungbung]

I'm referring to the top speed in comparison to the engine capacity and type and the weight of the bike (150kg (just chcked) body with 14 HP and 125cc engine).

Imagine that minus extra weight = 120kg + 5kg for fairings (gotta look the shizzle) plus geared down to top out at 70kmp/h -- on a bucket track.

Not the most competitive, but competitive enough, and comfortable too.

My bucket weighs 67kg

[vtec]

I just gained a new respect for Hyosung. But will only fully respect them once they match the Inline 4 250cc Jappers from the early 90's on performance, handling, and reliability. Bring it on Hyosung. Do it for the squids.

[ZeroIndex]

I just gained a new respect for Hyosung. But will only fully respect them once they match the Inline 4 250cc Jappers from the early 90's on performance, handling, and reliability. Bring it on Hyosung. Do it for the squids.
I doubt they will do an inline 4, as they seem to be content with the v-twin engine series.. however, there are rumours that they are planning a 1500cc monster that will put out around 200hp to contend with the Busa and ZX14 :D

[vtec]

Yeah I thought as much. Just wishing that some chinese company will get the moulds for the CBR250 and ZXR250, and just pump out tonnes of them. The alternative was waiting for Hyosung to make a new and improved one. But I think you might be right... they're keeping their smaller bikes twins, as that is much easier.

[ducatilover]

Impressive?!?! Bloody tank if you ask me! My VT250 Spada weighs less than that, and it's 18 years old!
go the spada!:rockon:

[SwanTiger]

vtec, didn't the inline four 250 cc engines die out for a reason?

[vtec]

vtec, didn't the inline four 250 cc engines die out for a reason?

No good reason. Some say it was because the japs decided to limit them to 40hp, which you could pretty much get close to that from much more basic twins. So there was no reason to make the superior IL4's.

But with tech advances since then, I'm sure a reliable 50-55hp 250cc IL4 would be an easy task. As I see it, there's no reason china/korea couldn't do it. It's just whether or not they could maintain the quality of the jappers. Stealing engineers from suzuki seems like a bloody good start.