Stopping

[Lou Girardin]

Who does what?
Ride as far as you can out of every tank?
Or stop every 100 k's or so, for a chat/smoke/fart whatever?
Personally, I prefer to only stop when I have to.

[The_Dover]

Every 100k's or so.

I just cant squeeze the cheese in the saddle. Maybe if I rode a Honda....

[bladez]

hmmmmm i stop every 150k to rest the old body and to have a smoke and put gas in :scooter:

[Hitcher]

We tend to travel in about 100km or one-hour bursts, maximum. Unless we're Grand Challenging, when it's about 160km or one-and-a-half-hour bursts,

[kiwifruit]

bout every 150ish, for gas and a smoke

[Blackbird]

Who does what?
Ride as far as you can out of every tank?
Or stop every 100 k's or so, for a chat/smoke/fart whatever?
Personally, I prefer to only stop when I have to.

Same! I ride with a 'busa and a GSXR 1000. The busa pilot and I have a range over 300 km and we hate bloody stopping for the Gixxer. They might be quick but not over a long haul:yes:

[Hitcher]

Same! I ride with a 'busa and a GSXR 1000. The busa pilot and I have a range over 300 km and we hate bloody stopping for the Gixxer. They might be quick but not over a long haul:yes:
Indeed. I never got any takers to my sprotsbike challenge -- Wellington to Whangarei with only one fuel stop...

[Karma]

The size of my bike is a mismatch for me, so if I'm on the coro loop like yesterday, I end up stopping every 50-60ks for a smoke and strech my legs :(

[Squeak the Rat]

Stop for gas only. The destination is the start of another journey.

[Two Smoker]

Stop for gas or crashes...

[Racey Rider]

... Or checkered Flags!


On the road, I like to do 2 hour stints.
Hate having too stop and watch the cars I've just past go by .

[Macktheknife]

Gas and a smoke every 120km or so, unless I am on a timeline then I just go till I get there or have to refuel.

[Two Smoker]

... Or checkered Flags!


havent made one of those yet...

[onearmedbandit]

Gas every 180ish km's, or stop for a smoke in a scenic area. Or stop and wait for everyone else to catch up!!! (p/t)

[spudchucka]

My bike makes my arse go to sleep so I stop quite often or sometimes I just ride side saddle, alternating between port and starboard to give one half of my butt a rest for a few K's.

[skelstar]

If riding with others, a stop every hour/100km. On my own I have to make myself stop...bloody boring when i do though. Have to make sure I eat and drink too.

[Blackbird]

Indeed. I never got any takers to my sprotsbike challenge -- Wellington to Whangarei with only one fuel stop...


That's impressive:yes: I have a similar attitude to driving the car - hate stopping much to the irritation of my wife. She often reminds me about the occasion when she was absolutely busting for a pee and I made her wait for another 50 km until we reached our destination. A "close call" in many ways - I think my life was hanging by a thread:nono:

[PaddyFZ1]

If im by myself ill ride till i need to stop, usually 200km+.
If i have the mrs on the back its usually around an hour b4 shees wacking me in the ribs and telling me to pull over for a stop

[Ixion]

Ride until I have to fuel. Unless it's so cold I need to stop and light a fire.

And Wellington to Whangarei ? Easy. I've done Auckland to Wellington with no fuel stop, on the 1950's equivalent of a sprotsbike.

[Motu]

I'll stop every 100km if I'm on a mission to go somewhere - but I'm usualy not on a mission,so I'll stop any time I like.That can be never,and I'll put in a 300km day non stop.Or I'll stop for a piss,to take a photo of some nice spot,I'll stop to just check something out....wassat? Looked like a kitten...maybe if I sit still they'll come out for a peek.I check out burnt out cars,cars rolled down banks,old quarry or farm equipment...views,I always stop for a good view.

Shit,do I ever do any riding? There is just so much to explore and check out....maybe I'm nosey.....

[nodrog]

when i'm on a mission i'll only stop when i need gas.

[Big Dave]

no set rules - depends on the ride. sometimes when on a photo mission it can be every 50mtrs.

Usually about 250km on the XB12X is quite comfortable - 150 on the Trophy and my knees hurt.

[SwanTiger]

Indeed. I never got any takers to my sprotsbike challenge -- Wellington to Whangarei with only one fuel stop...

I ACCEPT !!!

What do I win?

[Ixion]

I'll stop every 100km if I'm on a mission to go somewhere - but I'm usualy not on a mission,so I'll stop any time I like.That can be never,and I'll put in a 300km day non stop.Or I'll stop for a piss,to take a photo of some nice spot,I'll stop to just check something out....wassat? Looked like a kitten...maybe if I sit still they'll come out for a peek.I check out burnt out cars,cars rolled down banks,old quarry or farm equipment...views,I always stop for a good view.

Shit,do I ever do any riding? There is just so much to explore and check out....maybe I'm nosey.....

That's different. That's not stopping, that's savouring. Take a couple bits of luncheon sausage in your kit. Amazing what you can lure out, or down, for a chat , with luncheon sausage and patience. Especially this time of year, beasts get hungry now.

[onearmedbandit]

Indeed. I never got any takers to my sprotsbike challenge -- Wellington to Whangarei with only one fuel stop...

Okay, I'll bite.

Of course, fuel consumption was of most importance when I made my decision to buy a sportsbike. Along with pannier options, heated grips, sheepskin seat cover availability, long distance comfort (never had a problem and have ridden 1200km in one day), soft plush suspension, etc etc etc.

Now how about this challenge. Aaron Slight on my bike and then yours, fastest lap around Ruapuna. Hmmm, no takers? Oh that's right, tourers were not built for fast laps....

And yes my bike may only see 10 days a year on the track, but boy oh boy is it worth it.

[Motu]

That's different. That's not stopping, that's savouring. .

A few weeks ago I went past a goat sleeping on the side of the road,he just lifted his head as I went past,didn't even bother to get up - probably the first human and vehicle he had seen all day...or days even.So I stopped on the next corner and climbed up a hill to look back at the Two Towers and home far in the distance - I stood very still savouring the sights and peace....then I saw some movement in the scrub,goats were in there.Everytime I so much as moved they would flick their heads in my direction,they knew I was there but unable to locate me.

Those poor buggers on sprotsbikes miss a hell of a lot in their quest for a knee down corner....

[Lou Girardin]

My bike makes my arse go to sleep so I stop quite often or sometimes I just ride side saddle, alternating between port and starboard to give one half of my butt a rest for a few K's.

Dear God, I just got a mental picture of one of NZ's finest, riding side saddle and alternating arse cheeks.:sick:

[spudchucka]

Dear God, I just got a mental picture of one of NZ's finest, riding side saddle and alternating arse cheeks.:sick:
You want a live demo?

[Ixion]

Okay, I'll bite.

Of course, fuel consumption was of most importance when I made my decision to buy a sportsbike. Along with pannier options, heated grips, sheepskin seat cover availability, long distance comfort (never had a problem and have ridden 1200km in one day), soft plush suspension, etc etc etc.

Now how about this challenge. Aaron Slight on my bike and then yours, fastest lap around Ruapuna. Hmmm, no takers? Oh that's right, tourers were not built for fast laps....

And yes my bike may only see 10 days a year on the track, but boy oh boy is it worth it.

Chacun a son gout. That's why i find it necessary to have more than one bike.

[Ixion]

A few weeks ago I went past a goat sleeping on the side of the road,he just lifted his head as I went past,didn't even bother to get up - probably the first human and vehicle he had seen all day...or days even.So I stopped on the next corner and climbed up a hill to look back at the Two Towers and home far in the distance - I stood very still savouring the sights and peace....then I saw some movement in the scrub,goats were in there.Everytime I so much as moved they would flick their heads in my direction,they knew I was there but unable to locate me.

Those poor buggers on sprotsbikes miss a hell of a lot in their quest for a knee down corner....

Nice. I often tuck a pair of binoculars, or Mrs Ixion's opera glasses (shh, she still wonders where she put them) into a saddle bag. Well worth it.

[HDTboy]

Stop for gas or crashes...
You and me both bro.
Those that complain about sore legs and arses need to drink a cement smoothie and harden the fuck up! I'm 6 foot tall and ride a small bike with rearsets and a painted on seat

yes I am a hero



Those poor buggers on sprotsbikes miss a hell of a lot in their quest for a knee down corner....

We make up for it when we find ourselves in the scenery

[justsomeguy]

Gas and maybe a muesli bar and juice every 180 ish kms. Try to keep stops to less than 10 mins if I can help it.

[Madness]

I'm a smoker of fine tobacco products, hence feel the need to stop every hour to hour-and-a-half, depending on the conditions (weather etc.).

It does piss me off to stand there and watch all the cages I just passed go by as I smoke, time after time on a long trip. Once between Welly & Akld I was stopped at one of the 3-Sisters in the Desert Rd having a smoke in the winter sun. The cages I had been travelling in sync with one by one all proceeded past me, Grrrr!. Once underway though I was pleased to see a HP had pulled over one of my fellow travellers. If not for the smoko-break 2km earlier that could very well have been me getting all the bonus points. No sense in being greedy huh?

[Squeak the Rat]

I stopped in Morrinsville once.

[Big Dave]

And yes my bike may only see 10 days a year on the track, but boy oh boy is it worth it.


I've got 355 days of every day use that says it's not.

[Big Dave]

I stopped in Morrinsville once.

'Time' stopped in Morrinsville once.

[Big Dave]

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Those that complain about sore legs and arses need to drink a cement smoothie and harden the fuck up! I'm 6 foot tall and ride a small bike with rearsets and a painted on seat
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I'm closer to 7 feet tall and have some intelligence.:nya: :nya: :nya:

[Hitcher]

I ACCEPT !!!

What do I win?
Fabulous prizes.

Do you have a factory-standard sprotsbike on which to enter?

[onearmedbandit]

I've got 355 days of every day use that says it's not.

Well sorry BD, but you're talking shit. I love riding my bike 365 days of the year, sun, rain, snow, whatever I'll be riding it, and enjoying every freaking moment of it. It's comfortable both around town and out on 'rides', the suspension while firm is never bone-jarring and it feels at home around all types of corners. The engine is fantastic, pulling strong all the way from down low right through to the screaming pulling-you-into-the-horizon redline. Wheelies are just a flick of the wrist away if you enjoy that sort of thing, and I do. The gearbox is typically GSXR smooth, and with the precise control from the fuel injection you can time clutches changes that are just as smooth, but quicker, than clutched. Even operating the clutch with my thumb as I have to, it's action is light, smooth and controlled.

I love the styling, it's not the news flashest model on the block sure, but it is almost iconic in a way the later ones can't be, it was the first generation of the series. It's 'fatter' around the tank and mid-fairing then the new ones as well, but it gives it a staunch stance, imo.

On top of that, it starts each time I pull it out of the garage, it is a pussy cat to ride when you want it to be, it idles realibly, doesn't overheat, doesn't leak oil, costs fark all to maintain. But most of all, when I ride it it makes me feel like I'm on top of the world, nothing could bother me at all. The smile on my face everyday makes your statement bs.

I've ridden other styles of bike, from scooters to Harleys (not saying owned, ridden) and a lot in between and nothing makes me happier than my GSXR. That's just me. I know you've probably ridden more bikes than anyone here, and have a wider info base to make your decisions, but I honestly at this stage in my life couldn't think of anything, other than a new GSXR, I would want.

When I said the 10 days a year is worth it, I in no way meant it to imply the other 355 weren't. Just on those 10 days I can twist the throttle a shit load harder, and that's were a bike like that

[Waylander]

By myself? Gas only, take care of other things while at the servo.

With others for regroups or when digging my bike out of a ditch.

[SwanTiger]

Fabulous prizes.

Do you have a factory-standard sprotsbike on which to enter?

YES.

Will you pay for my Gas? is that the Prize?

Can we make it more challenging and create a rule that you must complete it within a 12 hour period, maybe 10?

[Goblin]

Depends on the ride and who I'm riding with. Poker runs are a shitload of fun, i do as many per year as I can. With my oldest riding buddies we like to stop in really remote places & just enjoy being out there. Other riding mates like to stop at pubs, which is ok if I can afford it at the time. By myself I have my favourite stops where I like to chill out, Braemar spring, Pikowai beach, Kaimai summit...Rotoma's.

[Big Dave]

Well sorry BD, but you're talking shit.

Yep.

Just bad design - you are only using the bike for it's intended purpose - to go virtually flat out everywhere - 2.73% of the time.

The ergos are designed for maximum velocity and not at all suited to the type of riding encountered in NZ conditions on the other 355 days.

Drop bars and a racing crouch in the unreliable gravel and shit strewn roads here are a poor choice - upright motocross style positions would let most riders get away with the front end slides that bring them down because 80% of their weight is on the bars - without getting to comfort issues.

Then U only can use 30% of the available power in legal on road aplications which means that 70% is waste.

I still got 355 says not worth it. You need more bikes.

[RiderInBlack]

Can we make it more challenging and create a rule that you must complete it within a 12 hour period, maybe 10?A bloodly "cage" can do Whanga-Welly in 12hours easy.

Well on my own I ride to the range of my tank. Whanga-Tau I stop at Papa Autobahn And again at Tuariko. Return Silverdale Autobahn and Home. For the GC: Anywhere I can get fuel in the wee hours of the morning that fit in the 200-300Km range (160miles 260Km is "Roxanne's" normal reserve, 200miles 320Km is her max range). Would love ta add an extra tank to increase my range. Touring: I stop were and when I feel like it as well as fuel stops. Hey I'm on holiday and am on tour ta see places:nya: More important question would how far do I like to travel on a bike in a day:whocares:
Group rides: At every intersection to make sure no one has gone missing. Don't want ta wait until I arrive a the next fuel point ta find that a mate is missing and probably dieing in a ditch just because I can't be fu*ked waiting for my mates.

[SwanTiger]

400 - 500km from my tank, a solid 430 - 450 if I keep it under 7,500 RPM

Stop when I need Gas or my arse is numb or I need a piss/shit. Have taken a few shits on the side of the road if I recall correctly.

I'm one of those people, when yah gotta go, yah gotta go and vibrations from the engine seem to relax the muscles or some shit and the shit decides it wants to come out then. Quite handy when you are constipated.

[Hitcher]

YES.

Will you pay for my Gas? is that the Prize?

Can we make it more challenging and create a rule that you must complete it within a 12 hour period, maybe 10?
Loser pays for all the gas. 12 hours is good to complete. Are you getting the bit about one fuel stop on a factory-standard bike?

[Titanium]

When by myself..... only when I need gas...... 300- 320 kms.

More regular when riding with a ducati 999R and the 12 ltr tank...... or out for a group fang ..... at tricky corners and coffee shops.

Cheers

[justsomeguy]

400 - 500km from my tank, a solid 430 - 450 if I keep it under 7,500 RPM

You gotta be kidding........:wait:

I've had my bike stall and die at 181 kms on one Coro Loop ride forcing me to stop and turn it to reserve...... I thought the bike had broken down for a moment.:angry:

[SwanTiger]

Loser pays for all the gas. 12 hours is good to complete. Are you getting the bit about one fuel stop on a factory-standard bike?

YES.

According to wises it is roughly 850 Kilometers from Wellington to Whangarei.

It'll take some very conservative riding (pulling clutch in on long down hill straights, etc.) 5th gear as much as possible, keeping around or under 7,000 RPM but I think this is possible.

I average 380 - 400km a tank going for it, however I've got 430 - 450km from a tank. I reckon 500km is possible if I get a tune/service, etc and very conservatively ride.

It is a stock 2006 Hyosung GT 250R, 27HP, 17 LTR tank, 21NM of torque and weights 155KG's dry and I weight 115KG's.

If my calculations are correct, I'll roll into Whangarei on petrol fumes.

CORRECTION: 823KM's according to Wises, not 850KM's... If there are too many hills I might loose the bet.

[Titanium]

YES.

According to wises it is roughly 850 Kilometers from Wellingto to Whangarei.

It'll take some very conservative riding (pulling clutch in on long down hill straights, etc.) 5th gear as much as possible, keeping around or under 7,000 RPM but I think this is possible.

I average 380 - 400km a tank going for it, however I've got 430 - 450km from a tank. I reckon 500km is possible if I get a tune/service, etc and very conservatively ride.

It is a stock 2006 Hyosung GT 250R, 27HP, 17 LTR tank, 21NM of torque and weights 155KG's dry and I weight 115KG's.

If my calculations are correct, I'll roll into Whangarei on petrol fumes.

ride the other way ...... it is down hill ..... more of a chance to roll in to Welly ........:scooter:

[SwanTiger]

Who in Wellington can put me up for the night?

I'll do your dishes and shit but can't affoard to pay you cos' I need to save. I can also cook canned soup and anything that you can put in a microwave.

I'm not really sociable, quite boring really, don't say much.

A lawn will do or a garage /somewhere safe to keep my bike is all I really need as I have a tent and don't mind staying in that.

[Titanium]

Who in Wellington can put me up for the night?

I'll do your dishes and shit but can't affoard to pay you cos' I need to save. I can also cook canned soup and anything that you can put in a microwave.

I'm not really sociable, quite boring really, don't say much.

A lawn will do or a garage /somewhere safe to keep my bike is all I really need as I have a tent and don't mind staying in that.

But are you toilet trained? .......

[Big Dave]

I'll put it in Kiwi Rider and do you a 3 month subscription if you can do it.
Not dissing it - but my concern is that your 250 qualifies as a sprotsbike - my feeling is that needs 600cc or better?

[SwanTiger]

Nah, 250cc is sports bike, it looks like one, has bling USB forks, rear mono shock (although its really quite shit) and it has fairings.

If someone wants to pay cash difference on a trade in on my GT 250R for a 650R I reckon I could do it on that based on the research I've done on their engines, fuel mileage capabilities, etc.

Anyway, I just want to go for a ride and not have to pay for Gas.


But are you toilet trained? .......

Yes.

I was raised to piss off the deck or in the garden. Using the toliet just made more work for mum.

[avgas]

Depends on the trip, i quite often dont stop until the tank is empty.But if time allows i prefer to stop every 80k's of twisties or every 100 on the open.

[avgas]

my feeling is that needs 600cc or better?
To be honest with you, the fastest average speed (i.e. average of the riding i did ALL the time) was back on my RG those many years ago.
Lost the most demerit points on that bike too. Almost lost my license 4 times in 3 years (but cops were nice too me).
I'd guess my average on that 150cc bike was about 150kph, which isnt too bad considering your suppose to do 50 in town.
955i my average was about 130ish.
ZXR was about 140ish.
GB was about 80ish :)
TS was about 20ish
FZ so far has been about 120ish but im adjusting to the bike still

[Big Dave]

FZ so far has been about 120ish but im adjusting to the bike still


Or maybe just getting smarter.

[SwanTiger]

Hitcher, when is a date that suites you? Weekends are best for me.

Maybe 15/15'th of this month.

[Hitcher]

Maybe first we should have a poll to determine whether or not a Hyosung GT250 is a "sprotsbike" in the spirit of the challenge?

[Madness]

Who in Wellington can put me up for the night?


Spare double bed and locked garage here for ya bro (Lower Hutt). You can even have the cat to keep ya warm, watch out for the catbreath though. Heck, my ZZR1100 has a pretty big tank (27l?) I wouldn't fancy my chances, it's a long time to restrain yer right wrist flexation.

[Ixion]

Don'r underestimate it, I've done Wellington -> Auckland non stop, and it's a long long hard grind. Amd that was on a 500. The last few hundred k's are rough.

[SwanTiger]

Maybe first we should have a poll to determine whether or not a Hyosung GT250 is a "sprotsbike" in the spirit of the challenge?

Okay, I will consent to that. However I think it is un-nessescary.

It'll only make the journey if I am conservative, which is going to take skill on my part and the fact the bike has a large tank and decent fuel mileage is only 50% beneficial.

By the way Hitcher, it cost roughly $23 - $25 dollars to fill my tank with Unleaded 91 so it is not going to be overly exspensive for you. I imagine if you are my competitor on a lovely FJR then I'm going to need a mortage.

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[The_Dover]

I've done Auckland - Chez Poos in the Wairarapa riviera and it was a piece of piss, even after a half day at work.

I had to stop a few times for gas though so I'll pass on the hitler challenge.

[Hitcher]

By the way Hitcher, it cost roughly $23 - $25 dollars to fill my tank with Unleaded 91 so it is not going to be overly exspensive for you. I imagine if you are my competitor on a lovely FJR then I'm going to need a mortage.
The original purpose of this challenge -- first made over a year ago -- was to deflate a couple of rampant sprotsbike egos who at that time were whacking on about how quickly their crutch rockets could propel them from Auckland to Wellington. In an endeavour to add some spice to the discussion, I suggested the Whangarei-Wellington with one fuel stop challenge to see if there was any interest. There was none.

At that time I had an ST1300 with a 29 litre tank that would have done this effortlessly. The Big Yam with a 25 litre tank should do this as well, depending on the route and the location of the fuel stop (I need one at about 430km, plus or minus 10km).

So the original intention wasn't for this to be an economy run, if that makes sense. Rather a way of making a point that a fast trip from Whangarei to Wellington shouldn't involve three or four fuel stops...

I may still be keen, and it would be nice if we could ride it together, so that we could self-adjudicate. You shouldn't need a mortgage either, as I estimate that the FJR will do this trip on 46 litres of unleaded 91.

[Lou Girardin]

Auckland to Welly is a doddle. Boring because I've done it so many times, but still easy. I make two gas stops to be safe and one includes a fuel stop for me. Otherwise it's straight through.
I do think Hitcher was inferring a full-on, gas guzzleing, back breaking litre bike for the challenge?

[The_Dover]

I do think Hitcher was inferring a full-on, gas guzzleing, back breaking litre bike for the challenge?

Can I take a camel back full of gas?

[Hitcher]

I do think Hitcher was inferring a full-on, gas guzzleing, back breaking litre bike for the challenge?
Or a 600. I'm not fussy. They're all the same.

[Hitcher]

Can I take a camel back full of gas?
Sure. If I can light it.

[Lou Girardin]

Can I take a camel back full of gas?

I've heard you have an inbuilt supply.

[SwanTiger]

I understand your reasoning Hitcher.

My intentions are plain simple, I've always wanted to ride the Rimutaka's and this is a good excuse to go down to Wellington.

I live about 1:30 hours ride south of Whangarei so its not that much of an adventure.

I'm keen to come down to Wellington and ride back with you, or you come up to Whangarei and ride back. Sounds like your FJR has equal fuel mileage to my bike.

[TONO]

Shit on the 1400 I would go to sleep on the seat it is so big and comfortable, :blip: I only stop if everybody else does, :wait: or if I need a piss,:yes: or the bike needs a break.:yawn: And I have grunt & heaps of it if it is required.:innocent: :whocares:

[Maha]

I stop when ever i want to, dont have set k's, if i need a feed i stop, if i want a piss i stop, if i want a rum, i stop, at the next pub........




Swanny/Hitcher should do that Welly/Whanga's ride..Kber's from all over the north island can jump in and do stint with them , might even make the 6pm news if the Auckland riders jump on and do the last leg to Whangarei....:blip:

[Mooch]

Normally stop every 100 -150 km's for a break or roughly every 1 -1/2 hours for road riding.

However , a earlier this year saw us stopping every 20 k or so and 150 km's took about 5 hours. Most of the trip was sort of gravel , but I've including a picture of the "Road" section.
This is one challenge (and the only) I'd put to Hitcher.