Another one down - Little Sister

[Eddieb]

Little Sister got taken out this morning while riding to work, just out of town west of Hamilton. A car pulled out of a side road (I think marshmeadow rd?) right in front of her and she hit the side of it. This was on an open road but it's believed she wasn't doing anywhere near the speed limit.

Another update: I've done it here so 3 pages don't have to be scrolled through.

Liz made fantastic progress yesterday and is now talking and off most medication and support systems except for pain relief and a small amount of oxygen.

She is still in ICU however and visiting is restricted to family only unless Liz gives express permission.

[onearmedbandit]

Sorry to read of that mate. Wish her all the best.

[slimyxylofone]

Even though I don't know you or your sister EddieB, I'm sorry to hear that, and hope she comes through it okay.

What happens to the driver in this case?

[Sniper]

All the best from the Snipers.


What happens to the driver in this case?
Proberly get charged with something, but they deserve to have the shit kicked out of them!!

[Zapf]

Sorry to hear. Sounds nasty with all that breaks. Wish her well in speedy recovery.

[Postie]

thats some serious injuries there. All the best to your sister mate, its never good to here of a rider down but its even worse when its that bad.
i hope she heals well and the hospital staff look after her well

[Matt Bleck]

That sucks, hope she has a speedie recovery.

[Two Smoker]

Sorry to hear mate... Hope she has a fast and full recovery..

[Dooly]

I've had the same injuries plus a bit more.
I feel for her big time.
It takes time to heal, and once she's reasonable a positive mind helps immensley.
Pass on my best wishes.

[Colapop]

Hope all goes well for her.

[SimJen]

Sad news, hopefully the car driver gets what they deserve.....

[Eddieb]

Yep, there's a few things on the list there.

She was wearing full cordura gear with armour, full face lid, boots etc. There is also a small amount of gravel rash, so I presume something rode up when she hit the road. Ride was a Bandit 600s, no idea what type of car it was.

[Macktheknife]

Eddieb, all the best to your sister and my prayers go to the rest of your family also. Hope she heals well and fast, keep us updated.

[pritch]

All the best to your sister, and to the parents. Here's hoping for a speedy and complete recovery.

[bane]

Eddieb, all the best to your sister and my prayers go to the rest of your family also. Hope she heals well and fast, keep us updated.

ditto from me.

[Warr]

Sorry to hear of your sisters plight Eddie. Hope all goes well with surgery and the healing is fast.
Keep us updated. Happy to help in any way possible since am in hams :)

[crashe]

Eddie - All the very best for your sister.

[DemonWolf]

Best wishes to your sister and family. We will be praying for a full recovery.

very distressing news finding out one of your own has been injured in a accident like this.. send the family our thoughts and love.

[yungatart]

Our thoughts are with you all, hope she is soon on the mend.

[Drum]

Very sad to hear.
Best wishes to your sister and family.

[T.W.R]

Never good to hear of a fellow biker getting collected.
Best wishes & hoping for full & sucessful recovery :yes:

[WRT]

Hope the recovery goes well, best wishes to all your family.

[poorbastard]

Sorry to hear mate. Hope she recovers well and wish her all the best for her recovery.

[Quasievil]

Fuck........not good, wet roads here today wouldnt have helped her out much.
mate Im in Hammy for whatever you need dude let me know, will pm my number to ya

[SwanTiger]

Best wishes for a full recovery for your sister Eddieb.

[Storm]

Hope she heals well and fast mate.

[Quasievil]

If anyone knows eddieB cell number can ya Pm it to me
Cheers

[qldzxr250a]

All the Best from the over here in West.

[kiwifruit]

Not good :(
I hope she heals well
Regards, Allan.

[NC]

All the best for her speedy recovery :)

[Lias]

Blew me away when Wolf told me, only met Liz a few times but shes a lovely lady and I hope she heals quick. My thoughts are with her, Roger, you and the rest of the family.

[trumpy]

Dang..Not good. Best wishes for a fast recovery. Anything I can do PM me. Not in Hamilton but may be able to help make her more comfortable during the healing process.

[Wolf]

I got the news from a mutual friend and then a more in-depth list of the injuries from another friend who drove EddieB's mum up to the hospital.

Not good. Her husband's probably beside himself at the mo' as well.

The Wolf pack is thinking of her at the moment. I was going to go up and see her in hospital before I heard the full extent of her injuries - she's been in surgery most of the afternoon and they're thinking she won't be out until 6pm.

Will definitely be holding off visiting her for a few days until she's well enough to have visitors.

From what I've been told: She had reduced speed as the intersection is bloody dangerous and it was her reduced speed and her gear that saved her life.

The intersection is a known hazard - we always slow down there.

All the best EddieB, to you and your family.

[ajturbo]

hell .. hope she recovers well... now that i know from mud boy's crash how much pain she must be in... get well asap i hope

[Biohazard]

Send my regards and thoughts and hope she has a speedy recovery .

[smokeyging]

Hell, that’s a bugger. I really hope she can get out of this 100% pain free.
Just goes to show, we cruise along in life with no worries, then WHAM, life gives us such a whack across the Swede with a 4x2

[Maha]

Nice to know it was not a fatality, reminder to us all really, all the gear all the time, never know when you will need it...........speedy recovery to the Little sis........:grouphug:

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Darn We have you in our prayers. Hubby and all the family as well.

[fozz rock]

Ouch.. thats got to hurt


ALL the best to you and your sis mate

[Blackbird]

Best wishes to all from a bit further down SHI.

Geoff

[mr me]

Sorry to hear about your sister. I hope she recovers fully and quickly,all the best .

[Smokin]

Thats no good at all, Send her all my best for a speedy and trouble free recovery.

[Eddieb]

Best wishes to all from a bit further down SHI.

Geoff

Thanks Geoff, my (our) home town. I remember the days growing up on Paraonui Road, walking to Tokoroa North every morning, way back when the world was a much simpler place & time.

My first interest in bikes was triggered one day on the corner of Paraonui & ? (Last turn on the right before you get out of town), some guy with a pillion came round the corner while we were playing on our Rally 20's. He hoisted the front wheel and was off down the street. I was all of 10 and thought that was just the coolest. It must have been about '82.

[Scorpygirl]

This is awful news indeed. Please pass on best wishes to Liz from me, Wolf. I hope the injuries and the trauma heal soon!!! Take care! :grouphug:

[justsomeguy]

:gob:....... good luck to you all. All the best.

[Jamezo]

holy shit batman! that just breaks my heart. REALLY wishing for a good recovery.

[terbang]

Bad news indeed, hope she mends well. Gets ya thinking doesn't it..?

[quickbuck]

:gob: Sorry to hear of the news about your sis man. I know a little bit about how she must be feeling at the moment (as a truck failed to take me out once).
Give her heaps of support, and don't forget about the mental anguish as well. Bones tend to heal faster than the mind sometimes.

[bladez]

sad to hear speedy recover to her and the best advise listen to the docs when they tell ya not to put full weight on ya legs rebroke mine

[MikeyG]

All the best to your little sis.

Take care driving up there, we don't want it happening to you too.

[Eddieb]

sad to hear speedy recover to her and the best advise listen to the docs when they tell ya not to put full weight on ya legs rebroke mine

Agreed, I went though an ankle & heel reconstruction a few years ago. (Anybody in H town hear about the guy who feel through Forlongs roof a few years back? :-) )

[APPLE]

sorry to hear that man,speedy Recovery.....:yes:

[quickbuck]

sad to hear speedy recover to her and the best advise listen to the docs when they tell ya not to put full weight on ya legs rebroke mine

Hehe, I broke a screw in mine by running on my leg after one too many burbons. Thing was the leg was set too long, and it needed to be shorter as it wasn't healing. Took another op to fix though.

It was a pretty messy break to begin with, as my leg got wrapped aroung my frame beam. There were two breakes 100mm apart. Guess I had a 4" frame.

[bladez]

Hehe, I broke a screw in mine by running on my leg after one too many burbons. Thing was the leg was set too long, and it needed to be shorter as it wasn't healing. Took another op to fix though.

It was a pretty messy break to begin with, as my leg got wrapped aroung my frame beam. There were two breakes 100mm apart. Guess I had a 4" frame.
i no what ya mean still having opps to sort my leg out maybe one day it might work

[chanceyy]

speedy recoveryto your sis, strength to the family, & take care yourself

[andrea]

sorry to hear bout your sister, hope she a speedy recovery, wish her well from me eddieb.

andycolt

[Skunk]

Hope she recovers soon Eddie.

[Titanium]

Sorry to hear about a local being taken out..... all the best.

Peter

[MD]

Terrible news. Those injuries will take some time to get over. Best wishes to your Sister and family.

[Clivoris]

Please add my wishes for a swift recovery to the list. Sounds like you have a tight family and there is heaps of support available. Reading the accident threads on here is certainly giving me pause. I hope it helps me think ahead when I'm riding.

[raster]

Pass on our best wishes from Raster and family, scarry intersection that one.

Hope your holding up OK and can get up for the weekend.

Noel

[diggydog]

Yep, there's a few things on the list there.

She was wearing full cordura gear with armour, full face lid, boots etc. There is also a small amount of gravel rash, so I presume something rode up when she hit the road. Ride was a Bandit 600s, no idea what type of car it was.
sorry to hear about that,hope she has speedy recovery,hope the person gets reprimanded and contribute in money.:angry:

[sunhuntin]

damn...never good to hear of! all the best a speedy recovery!!

girl got hit in the states...someone on the forum said she should keep a diary and write down how she felt mentally and physically each day, as it would maybe help pin down the cager that took her out. maybe get someone who will be having daily contact write down things till your sister can write or communicate it to who is writing.

[madmal64]

Add my get well wishes to the list too Eddieb. Like many others here "been there" and know the feeling. I think thats one of the things that makes bikers a tight bunch & sounds like its a family thing for you & yours are tight.
All the best to your sis, you & your family

[Street Gerbil]

...for the speedy recovery of the Little Sister.

[Brett]

All the best in healing and hopefully she makes a full recovery.

[TonyB]

All the best from the B clan, here's to a full and speedy recovery.

[Insanity_rules]

Wishing Little Sister a speedy recovery. Never good when a family member downs.

[jazbug5]

I hope she heals up well: you must all be in total shock at this stage though.

I'm told that getting the right supplements can really help at this stage; over here there is 'Osteocare', plus Comfrey tincture is supposed to be good as well as one or two others. Arnica for the bruising. A good, positive attitude and doing what the physio tells you goes a long way too.

No doubt a few folk here have a far more knowlege on this than I do, though. Keep your chins up, eh?

[Paul in NZ]

Sorry to hear this news, it sounds a very bad business. It can't be easy for family at the moment and our thoughts are with you all. As soon as you can be with here please tell her that we are all sending her our love!

Let me know if you can think of anything at all that we can do to assist either now or during the recovery time.

Best Wishes

Paul and Vicki

[sels1]

Add my get well wishes to the list too Eddieb.

And mine.
And to you and your family also - it can be as hard for those standing beside the bed as for those in it.

[Wolf]

The ride home tonight was a study in paranoia - having a close friend taken out at an intersection certainly brings home the danger and I was especially wary of every car I saw. I think I'm going to be paranoid around intersections for a while - especially Holland Rd/Marshmeadow Rd (as if I weren't already very cautious at that intersection.)

Liz was heading to work, riding along Holland Road towards Hamilton. Marshmeadow Road is on the left. If you come down Marshmeadow road towards Holland Road, there is a thick shelter belt to your right blocking your view of traffic coming down Holland Road from that direction. That shelter belt also hides traffic on Marshmeadow Road from traffic heading down Holland Road towards Hamilton - that's why we always slow down when approaching Marshmeadow Road from out of town... I've seen too many dicks come flying out of Marshmeadow Rd who obviously do not believe the compulsory Stop sign applies to them.

I read about a lot of accidents on here - some quite serious - and I know, intellectually, that a lot of people's lives have been affected by the accident. Someone's child or parent or brother or sister, husband or wife etc is badly fucked up and the friends and family have to deal with it.

This time is different. This time, I know the people. That one dickheaded bit of carelessness has seriously fucked up the lives of several of my close friends - Liz and her family, mainly. Good people, helpful people, friends of a goodly number of years.

The scary bit is how close this was to being a fatality. Some good people I know came close to losing a sister, a wife, a daughter, a step-mum.

Tonight I'm sad that a good friend is badly wounded, but glad she's still alive.

The latest word we have is that the surgeries were a success and Liz is resting "comfortably" - whatever that means when you have four broken limbs and a broken pelvis. There is the possibility of more surgery tomorrow and again on Thursday but they are apparently minor operations - the serious stuff has been done and she's come through well.

[strayjuliet]

My thoughts and well wishes to you and family EddieB.

I'm sitting here rethinking whether or not to get my motorbike licence, as I hear of my friends taking falls or getting knocked off. It's making me very nervious of going for it let alone feeling secure with Wolf riding to and from work each day. Those cages just dont give a damn about us bikers and think because they are safe inside their cage with metal surrounding them it's ok to pull out in front of a bike as the biker comes out with the worst damage. It really sux that we can't sue for damage here in NZ.

There are very few cagers that are biker aware and most of which either ride motorbikes or support those who do.

[Vagabond]

Sorry to hear that,best wishes and hope she has a full and speedy recovery!

[frogfeaturesFZR]

All the best to your sister,you and your family. Bloody cagers

[Bend-it]

What happens to the driver in this case?

They get a visit from a gaggle of angry bikers!!

Sorry about the off mate, hope they use lots of morphine!

[placidfemme]

That is terrible to hear Eddie. Hopefully she heals fast and there are no long term effects from this. Stay strong and our prayers are with you and your family.

[aff-man]

Man.. I hope she recovers quickly. Sorry to hear.


Was thinking is this the same person I bought my zxr400 off a few years back??

[snuffles]

The Snuffles are there in thought....

[WickedOne]

Terrible to hear, hope she has a speedy and complete recovery.

[Motig]

Hate to hear of another biker in a crash. All the best to your sister and wishing her a speedy recovery.

[deeknow]

Hey Eddie, real sorry to hear about Liz, good to hear she's stabilised somewhat. I work at Waikato Uni too, I don't know her personally but I've seen her riding about to/from campus (did she own a 400 kwaka before now) and a number of my collegues in the IT services division know her. We all wish her well. Please (Wolf too) pass on our thoughts, hopefully we'll see her back on two wheels one day :bye:

[Wolf]

I just spoke with Liz's husband and learned that I got garbled information about the accident so ignore my previous post on what happened.

Going by what Liz told Roger, she was heading into town - bright red bike, bright red helmet and lights on - slowed as she approached the intersection and a car that was on Holland Road, heading the other way, turned in front of her to go down Marshmeadow, whereupon she smashed into the car's left hand side.

The driver should have been able to see her, as she was approaching on a dead straight road and brightly dressed on a bright-coloured bike with the lights on.

[SDU]

We hope Liz has a good & full recovery.
I wish for her the family & friends the strength to mentally cope with these terrible times .



Thanks for the update Wolf.
People are just in too much off a hurry to take the time to look properly or to wait for the safe gap in the traffic these days.:angry: all other road users life's are at risk!:angry:

[Wolf]

People are just in too much off a hurry to take the time to look properly or to wait for the safe gap in the traffic these days.:angry: all other road users life's are at risk!:angry:
I gather there were other people around as Roger mentioned witnesses to the fact that Liz was entirely blameless and being as safe as possible (must have noticed her reduction in speed approaching Marshmeadow) and that the car just turned in front of her.

[ZeroIndex]

sorry to hear that :(.. hope she makes a speedy recovery..

[Ixion]

I'm sitting here rethinking whether or not to get my motorbike licence, as I hear of my friends taking falls or getting knocked off. It's making me very nervious of going for it let alone feeling secure with Wolf riding to and from work each day. ...

Do not fret, just go for it.

Many bikers have gone 20 30 40 years , unscathed.

He either fears his fate too much
Or, his deserts are small
That durst not put it to the touch
To win or lose at all

Just take care not to step on any earthworms.

[InDeSkyz]

omg.

I hope she heals fast and has plenty of drugs.

[crshbndct]

best wishes mate
hope she recovers well.

edit: its about time someone invents a titanium exoskeleto-suit for us to wear. (and i am not making a joke, im serious)

[dangerous]

- bright red bike, bright red helmet and lights on - The driver should have been able to see her, as she was approaching on a bright-coloured bike with the lights on.
Funnly nuff, red is one of the harder colours to see mainly in poor light... either way I just cant comprahend how the prick in the car didnt see Liz.
So there for he must have turned delibratly as a lot of people do, so fuck the arsehole I'd make it my lifes ambition to make sure the prick/prickess is screwed over by the courts... but some how I cant see that happening, wee fine and sent on there way.

Drivers and pushing ther luck is fast becoming an epademic, Chch has the worst intersection related accecents by 10% over the rest of NZ and it honestly puts the shits up me these days.

Eddie & Wolf, guttered bout Liz SFA I can do about it tho, guess I can only keep an eye on her recovery, sounds like shes in a bad way poor lass... all the best guys.

[Wolf]

Funnly nuff, red is one of the harder colours to see mainly in poor light... either way I just cant comprahend how the prick in the car didnt see Liz.
Perhaps she should have tried Waylander's idea of wearing a big fuck-off black leather jacket and ride a huge black HD - see if looking like a gang member actually sets off warning bells in the cager's puny minds...

[Rashika]

Perhaps she should have tried Waylander's idea of wearing a big fuck-off black leather jacket and ride a huge black HD - see if looking like a gang member actually sets off warning bells in the cager's puny minds...
now THAT I like! But doubt if it would make any difference.
Really sorry to hear about the accident. You can take all the precautions you like and if it is your day for it, it just seems to happen. At least the precautions she did take prob saved her life... guess there is a reason to wear all that good protective stuff and to be a defensive rider. :yes:
All my best for her recovery... and keep us informed as to what happens to the driver. It would be nice to know the driver got a suitable reward for their stupidity...perhaps a nice long stay in hospital next to their victim? Shame it aint an eye for an eye in NZ. :angry:

[Eddieb]

Thanks everyone for your kind words and pm's of concern and offers for practical and sanity assistance.

Liz had plates or rods inserted depending on the injury on Tuesday in all 4 limbs. The shoulder reconstruction was supposed to happen yesterday but didn't eventuate and some further internal examination of one leg is going to be done to ensure no infection is possible in one of the injuries. The internal bleeding was limited to one thigh and apparently is common for that sort of injury, no torso related internal damage has been found apart from the lung issues.

As expected with the drugs she is on yesterday she was dropping in and out of reality/sleep and answers to questions were monosyballic at best. She had some breathing issues yesterday, mainly around blood/oxygen levels and lung function. She has a bit of gunk in her lungs which isn't being naturally expelled as she can't cough or breath fully comfortably, also she had a oxygen bubble I believe below/under one lung which was to be removed.

When I left last night at ~9:30pm she was sitting up slighty, the lights were fully on and she was definately all home and was talking in complete sentences.

This morning however we have received a call from the hospital and were advised she was moved from ICU 2 to ICU 1 which involves a higher state of monitoring and indicates a higher level of concern. We were requested family members were present when the doctors rounds were finished, rather than waiting for visiting hours to officially start.
I'm yet to get access to find out why but I believe it's breathing related again, other members of the family are visiting and it's limited to 2 at a time.

[Dooly]

Unfortunately with these types of injuries all kinds of things pop up afterwards whilst in hospital, and it goes on and on.
It will be a long haul for you all but if she's in ICU she'll get the best care around the clock, and thats what counts.
Best wishes again.

[Lias]

This morning however we have received a call from the hospital and were advised she was moved from ICU 2 to ICU 1 which involves a higher state of monitoring and indicates a higher level of concern. I think I probably speak for the unwashed masses when I tell you we'll be praying twice as hard to our respective gods that shes out of ICU and recovering soon.

[Hawkeye]

Best wishes to your sister and family. Lets hope she is out of ICU soon.

[Scorpygirl]

My thoughts and prayers are all with you at this time. Hope she makes a speedy recovery and that the news gets brighter in the next day or so. Big Hugz too.

[madmal64]

Thanks for the update Eddie. I really appreciate that you are taken the time to post these updates. Cheers M8!
All the best

[Bandit Rider]

Like everyone else, thinking of you and your family. It will take time, but it is truly amazing how we recover.

[babyB]

well wishes sent to Liz in Love n Light
stay strong

[Wolf]

Went and saw Liz last night in ICU, she was a trifle groggy from the drugs but was speaking and comprehending and is definitely on the mend.

I passed on general love and well wishes from the KB community.

I also spoke with her husband and EddieB and got more of an idea what happened in the accident.

Apparently, the woman who turned in front of her did not indicate that she was about to turn, she just swung the wheel and crossed Liz's path.

Here's where it gets nasty: Lizzie struck the passenger-side corner of the car, the bike flipped around to the left and took out half of the front bumper while Liz continued in pretty much a straight line over the bonnet and slammed her shoulder into the windshield pretty much in front of the driver's face.

Basically, she was so close to the car it didn't even have time to present a full side to her, the passenger corner of the car had only just enough time to swing around into the path of her bike.

And the stupid driver claims not to have seen her. FFS, I would expect anyone who holds a licence to be able to see a pedestrian at that range.

Driver was not insured, of course, why should she take any responsibility on the road at all?

Liz used a less than complimentary term about the driver when she was informed she had already had two sessions in surgery and is scheduled for a third.

[Pussy]

Wishing Liz all the best from Annie and me. A stupid bitch "didn't see" ( more like didn't fucken look!) Annie in Feb 2002, and took her out. I have an appreciation as to how you guys feel. I was a/. bloody angry, and b/. felt so bloody powerless. I NEVER want to see my little darling, or anyone for that matter, seriously injured from a bike crash again.
Liz is in the best place, and here's wishing her a speedy and full recovery.
And I hope the mongrel that took her out gets more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket, like the" life support system for a cunt" that hit Annie got