Tyre choice for adventure riding? (Mixing road and off-road)

[NordieBoy]

Hey Nordie whats the Shinko 705 like on the front?

Good .

[dino3310]

Good .

i got a set cheap as cuz:woohoo:
only prob is the fronts a 2.75 so not sure how the smaller profile would preform as i normally use 3.00

[NordieBoy]

i got a set cheap as cuz:woohoo:
only prob is the fronts a 2.75 so not sure how the smaller profile would preform as i normally use 3.00

Front should be a 90x90x21 about 3.5"?

[warewolf]

Front should be a 90x90x21 about 3.5"?Nah, they don't quite translate mathematically. 3.00x21 is usually a tad larger than 90/90-21.

[bart]

I get confused with tyre conversion stuff. This might be usefull:

http://www.weeksmotorcycle.com/tire-size-conversion-chart.html

[dino3310]

cheap as TKC 19"

[dw120]

hi

Im changing the original kenda 110-100-18 on my xr 250 and thinking of fitting a t63 to the rear But will the 120-80-18 come close enough .

thanks all

[Oscar]

hi

Im changing the original kenda 110-100-18 on my xr 250 and thinking of fitting a t63 to the rear But will the 120-80-18 come close enough .

thanks all

I've got them on my 950 at the moment.
I'd give 'em 6/10. They grip OK but are very square - tend to fall of the tread on corners, and they also fell flat in certain terrian..

[dw120]

What I was thinking was the measurement are different as in 110-100 percent against 120-80 percent , will this affect anything ?

[george formby]

Roight, got me new tires on, MT 90 a/t front, Shinko 705 rear. Done a few k's on gravel & tarmac but not fully scrubbed in yet. BIG improvement in the gravel, actually feels like I have a safety margin but my head is playing games with me & the feel of a dual purpose tire on the front is making me exceedingly cautious tipping the bike in on tarmac. Anybody else gone from road tires to dual purpose & lost confidence on tarmac? Am I being a big girls blouse? (:yes:)

[NordieBoy]

Stick a 705 on the front as well. Probably won't be any better than the MT90 but you'll feel betterer.

[george formby]

Stick a 705 on the front as well. Probably won't be any better than the MT90 but you'll feel betterer.

It's not the mixing & matching just the sensation of the tread blocks...

Guess I just got to get used to it & take one of those make you harder pills.

[NordieBoy]

It's not the mixing & matching just the sensation of the tread blocks...

Guess I just got to get used to it & take one of those make you harder pills.

I hardly ever match my tyres.

20,000km on my front 705. Looks like it'll be on for another 5-10,000.

E-07 rear is down to the centre strip and only has another 1-2,000km in it.

There's a 705 sitting in the shed ready to go on.

It should wear out about the same time as the front.

[pete-blen]

Hi...
Whats the opinion on the Dunlop D605s..
just bought a set for my XR250.. put them
on tomorrow...
Have read they don't last as long as some others..
they are a softer rubber than whats on it now..
Look as they will work OK on & off the seal...

Being a lighter bike I was after tyres that were soft
enough to work on the seal...but still have a biggish block
spaceing for the dirt..


pete

[NordieBoy]

Never tried any of the Dunlops but on the lighter bikes you can get away with pretty much anything. Even roady tyres in boggy paddocks.

[JATZ]

Never tried any of the Dunlops but on the lighter bikes you can get away with pretty much anything. Even roady tyres in boggy paddocks.

Your just a skite Nordie :shutup:
FWIW I used a Dunlop 952 for the trip to the West Coast, seemed to be lasting o.k. I wouldn't want to push it to much on the seal though.
Also .... I've managed to get my hands on a Dunlop 801, cost a grand total of $0.00 :yes:, for a re-match with Mt Greenland
Bring it on :woohoo:

[NordieBoy]

I've managed to get my hands on a Dunlop 801, cost a grand total of $0.00 :yes:, for a re-match with Mt Greenland
Bring it on :woohoo:

Carbide studs in each knob :woohoo:

[pete-blen]

Carbide studs in each knob :woohoo:

Ice bike tyres

[george formby]

Never tried any of the Dunlops but on the lighter bikes you can get away with pretty much anything. Even roady tyres in boggy paddocks.

:yes:
When I rode wee trailies I used Avon Gripsters or the Pirelli equivalent and, yeah, you can still go pretty much anywhere, even maintain momentum in mud & snow but it can be farkin hard work. Just need to get that attitude on my big podgy bike now.

[umopom]

Dunlop D606 on the front everytime - did my confidence a power of good - not the cheapest but probably the best!

[Night Falcon]

has any tried Heidenau K60 scout 140/80/18? they are pricey but I hear they wear well?

[pete-blen]

Dunlop D606 on the front everytime - did my confidence a power of good - not the cheapest but probably the best!

Hi...
how do the 606 dunlops ware ?
I have 605 on mine.. but ware
very quickly.. grip bloody good
on the seal...
very simular tread to the 606..

just picked up 2 new 605 off TM..
$50 notes each..rears a bit norrower
than what i'm running..for $50 I will live
with it..

Pete

[NordieBoy]

has any tried Heidenau K60 scout 140/10/18? they are pricey but I hear they wear well?
I want to try a Heidenau K67...


It won't wear well though :scooter:

[dino3310]

Hi...
how do the 606 dunlops ware ?
I have 605 on mine.. but ware
very quickly.. grip bloody good
on the seal...
very simular tread to the 606..

just picked up 2 new 605 off TM..
$50 notes each..rears a bit norrower
than what i'm running..for $50 I will live
with it..

Pete

Those Trademe tyres are bloody good aye mate:2thumbsup

[clint640]

Hi...
how do the 606 dunlops ware ?


The D606 wears about the best of any of the tyres with that level of knobbyness eg MT21, EO-9, T-63 that I've tried. They are also by far the most expensive. The D605 has much more rubber on the road so will last longer than a D606.

Cheers
Clint

[NordieBoy]

Always remember to count your tyre levers before and after a tyre change...

:facepalm:

243124

[Oscar]

Always remember to count your tyre levers before and after a tyre change...

:facepalm:

243124

..and gloves.
At a 3 Day Enduro years ago ss I went to hand in my card at the end of a section where I'd had to do some repairs, I realised I was only wearing one glove:facepalm:

[NordieBoy]

..and gloves.
At a 3 Day Enduro years ago ss I went to hand in my card at the end of a section where I'd had to do some repairs, I realised I was only wearing one glove:facepalm:

Good thing they didn't have carbon knuckles back then...

[_Shrek_]

Always remember to count your tyre levers before and after a tyre change...

:facepalm:

243124

did you fix it or are you biffing it? :corn:

[NordieBoy]

did you fix it or are you biffing it? :corn:

Not mine. Just reporting what I saw on AdvRider.


Honest.


Doesn't even look like a TKC80 does it? :innocent:

[pete-blen]

Those Trademe tyres are bloody good aye mate:2thumbsup

thanks for the info..

[Night Falcon]

dont know if I should go for a heidi a E07 or a mefo super E....maybe I could offer to do review of each for some free rubber :innocent: Still have 3/4 of a T63 left but want to save it for special occasions...wheres henry ford when ya need him :blink:

[_Shrek_]

dont know if I should go for a heidi a E07 or a mefo super E....maybe I could offer to do review of each for some free rubber :innocent: Still have 3/4 of a T63 left but want to save it for special occasions...wheres henry ford when ya need him :blink:

have you tried the E10?

[NordieBoy]

have you tried the E10?

Don't confuse the man.

He'll start dribbling soon...




Shinko 705's FTW :woohoo:

[dino3310]

cheap rear with some bite
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/tyres/auction-393094538.htm

[Padmei]

Neduros doing Dakar next year.
Checkout the tyres he bought
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16424058&postcount=112

[NordieBoy]

Neduros doing Dakar next year.
Checkout the tyres he bought
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16424058&postcount=112

They could have a "Team FYFF" with all the AdvRiders going...

[bart]

Neduros doing Dakar next year.
Checkout the tyres he bought
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16424058&postcount=112

Why so many fronts?

[NordieBoy]

Why so many fronts?

They'll go through a set a day down to the canvas on the rear and the fronts won't last much longer...

[ADVGD]

http://www.adventureguide.co.nz/articles/12/112/images/west-coast-ride-20.jpg

Gave the Kenda K760 Trackmaster a debut run over to the Coast and clocked up a little over 1,100km. Was expecting it to be a bit of a dog on the road considering the aggressive and sparse pattern but it performed surprisingly well fully laden. Fairly whiny on the tarmac but not concerned with that at all. A little twitchy on loose gravel at high speed but always retained a feel of control. Off road it handled well in a range of conditions from dry packed track, loose rocky climbs, bouldery river crossings, through to boggy mud tracks. The lower price does leave me wondering about the quality/durability of the casing and how it stands up to abuse, plus of course the ultimate question “how many K's can you get from them”… time will tell

[888]

Pirelli MT21 Rallycross (front) and Shinko 700 (rear) on my DR650 is a great road and easy gravel combo so far. The MT21 really sticks to the road and tracks well in hard packed/light gravel, the 705 is great on the road and performs well in hard packed/light gravel. Can't see changing this combo unless availability becomes an issue.

[chasio]

A new MT60 for $10? Sounds good to me.

My E07 front is getting low, hence looking at the MT60. Thing is the size is 90/90 19 (off an NXR125) and the Freewind stock tyre is 100/90 19. So I can see the sidewall would be a bit smaller (90mm - 81mm = 9mm, I think.) So the speedo will be a bit further out.

Also the NXR125 has a rim width of 1.85 and the Freewind is 2.5.

I have scoured the interweb and cannot find the approved rim sizes for MT60's.

How can I find out if it'll work OK on the rim? That's assuming the speed and load ratings are OK.

And could I be missing an issue and pushing the cheapskate approach too far?

Cheers - Chasio

[Devil]

Mitas E-10's: Have run a set on the 12GSA now and was quite impressed. Performed better than the E-09 on the road and off. Wore well. Quite good on dry and damp tarmac.

However! These tyres and wet tar-bleed do not mix. I mean avoid tar-bleed like the godamn plague when it's wet. I filled my pants TWICE on the way back from coro. After coming down from Stony bay through to Kopu, down the coast in the damp with no problems, i proceeded over the bridge and onto the straights.
90km/h steady throttle, touched the cold, wet tar-bleed and instant wheelspin and into a tank slapper. Sorted my self out, thought maybe that was just something random. 1 km down the road, again 90km/h or so on a neutral throttle the biggest tank slapper i've ever had, I thought I was a gonner. Threw me right out of the seat, all crossed up, back and forth I was waiting to be biffed off, but by pure luck we gripped again. Had to pull over and collect myself.

They were good enough everywhere else that i'd still use them, but be warned, our tar in the wet and that tyre compound do not mix at all!

PS: No trouble on wet wooden bridges

[Oscar]

Basically any knobblie or semi knobblie is going to try and kill you on those horrible shiny black patches.


Mitas E-10's: Have run a set on the 12GSA now and was quite impressed. Performed better than the E-09 on the road and off. Wore well. Quite good on dry and damp tarmac.

However! These tyres and wet tar-bleed do not mix. I mean avoid tar-bleed like the godamn plague when it's wet. I filled my pants TWICE on the way back from coro. After coming down from Stony bay through to Kopu, down the coast in the damp with no problems, i proceeded over the bridge and onto the straights.
90km/h steady throttle, touched the cold, wet tar-bleed and instant wheelspin and into a tank slapper. Sorted my self out, thought maybe that was just something random. 1 km down the road, again 90km/h or so on a neutral throttle the biggest tank slapper i've ever had, I thought I was a gonner. Threw me right out of the seat, all crossed up, back and forth I was waiting to be biffed off, but by pure luck we gripped again. Had to pull over and collect myself.

They were good enough everywhere else that i'd still use them, but be warned, our tar in the wet and that tyre compound do not mix at all!

PS: No trouble on wet wooden bridges

[Devil]

Basically any knobblie or semi knobblie is going to try and kill you on those horrible shiny black patches.

Yeah, but i've run the TKC80, E-09 and MT21 (errr not the GS heh) on that stuff before and had no-where near that much of an issue. It was like absolute ice.

[Oscar]

Yeah, but i've run the TKC80, E-09 and MT21 (errr not the GS heh) on that stuff before and had no-where near that much of an issue. It was like absolute ice.

I did a huuuge slide on a GS1200 press bike fitted with TKC's on shiny tar after rain.
I near shit myself.

[Pikey]

E09's going on the DR tonight.

[Howie]

A new MT60 for $10? Sounds good to me.

My E07 front is getting low, hence looking at the MT60. Thing is the size is 90/90 19 (off an NXR125) and the Freewind stock tyre is 100/90 19. So I can see the sidewall would be a bit smaller (90mm - 81mm = 9mm, I think.) So the speedo will be a bit further out.

Also the NXR125 has a rim width of 1.85 and the Freewind is 2.5.

I have scoured the interweb and cannot find the approved rim sizes for MT60's.

How can I find out if it'll work OK on the rim? That's assuming the speed and load ratings are OK.

And could I be missing an issue and pushing the cheapskate approach too far?

Cheers - Chasio

Are you looking at front or rear rim width's there? My KLR runs a 1.60" rim on the front with a 90/90 profile, and a 2.50" on the rear with a 130/80

[chasio]

Are you looking at front or rear rim width's there? My KLR runs a 1.60" rim on the front with a 90/90 profile, and a 2.50" on the rear with a 130/80

Front. I saw it on the specs and went out and had a look at the rim just to be sure.

And stamped on the side it says it's a 2.5. :gob:

[Taz]

Probably be fine. Cheap enough to try one. I ran the NXR rear MT60 on the front motard rim of my 525. Worked a treat thru the mmmmm ride and others.

[ducatijim]

Mitas E-10's: Have run a set on the 12GSA now and was quite impressed. Performed better than the E-09 on the road and off. Wore well. Quite good on dry and damp tarmac.

However! These tyres and wet tar-bleed do not mix.

I had similar wakeup with e07's on my 990.....the only thing that saved me was the fact that a KTM has good manners.:yes:

Anyone who would like a 140/18 rear 07 with >50%, give me $65 and I will courier it to you. They will never go in the same building as any motorcycle of mine.:facepalm:

[chasio]

Probably be fine. Cheap enough to try one. I ran the NXR rear MT60 on the front motard rim of my 525. Worked a treat thru the mmmmm ride and others.

Reckon, eh? I also got a useful tip from a good bugger who put me onto this link:
Avon tyre compatibility (http://www.haveanicehd.com/images/pdf/11%20-%2000037.pdf)

And riffing off that that I found this summary (http://www.dropbears.com/u/utilities/tyrerim.htm) and also this small PDF (http://download1353.mediafire.com/ep2z0bxia80g/w7ke0q2t3dx7tz9/Motorcycle+Rim+Width+%26+Tire+Size+Chart.pdf) (189KB).

So the answer seems to be 'should be right', but it could prove to be an expensive question because now I want your motard! :)

[NordieBoy]

So the answer seems to be 'should be right', but it could prove to be an expensive question because now I want your motard! :)

Got a cheaper one for 'ya...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/nordwest/ReadyForTheRainbow-20040319/slides/RainbowPrep-3.jpg

[chasio]

Got a cheaper one for 'ya...

Stop it! Stop I say!

[NordieBoy]

Stop it! Stop I say!

558cc, 47hp, twin 4 pot front brakes, 14.1s standing 1/4 mile...

[Eddieb]

558cc, 47hp, twin 4 pot front brakes, 14.1s standing 1/4 mile...

Why haven't you adventurised that Nordie?

[NordieBoy]

Why haven't you adventurised that Nordie?

Was going to.
I could get a spoked hub from Limeyland for the back and a KX125 wheel fits straight in the front end.

12L tank, 150km range. No chance of a bigger tank.

The DR engine is lazier. Like me.

They did a 743cc version with soft cam and 8.2:1 compression for the desert rallies and it put out 72hp @ 7000 rpm at the crank.

Bimota tested the engine and found it would rev safely to 9300rpm.

[Eddieb]

Was going to.
I could get a spoked hub from Limeyland for the back and a KX125 wheel fits straight in the front end.

12L tank, 150km range. No chance of a bigger tank.

The DR engine is lazier. Like me.

They did a 743cc version with soft cam and 8.2:1 compression for the desert rallies and it put out 72hp @ 7000 rpm at the crank.

Bimota tested the engine and found it would rev safely to 9300rpm.

You've most of a spare rolling DR in the garage haven't you?

[NordieBoy]

You've most of a spare rolling DR in the garage haven't you?

Not that I've measured up the DR and Nordie wheels and found them to be very similar in spacings and that the DR front end would fit on the Nordie...


Nope. Not at all.



Oh shit.
Just started thinking about the '03 YZ250 USD front end on the Nordwest...

[Eddieb]

Not that I've measured up the DR and Nordie wheels and found them to be very similar in spacings and that the DR front end would fit on the Nordie...


Nope. Not at all.



Oh shit.
Just started thinking about the '03 YZ250 USD front end on the Nordwest...

I was thinking of a motor transplant actually

[NordieBoy]

I was thinking of a motor transplant actually

The Nordie has better suspension.

Also the front and rear ends are already spoken for. They're on the DR400F.

[Eddieb]

The Nordie has better suspension.

I'm sure you can Frankenstein the best of everything together.

[NordieBoy]

I'm sure you can Frankenstein the best of everything together.

Best?

What fun would that be?

[clint640]

I had similar wakeup with e09's on my 990.....the only thing that saved me was the fact that a KTM has good manners.:yes:

Anyone who would like a 140/18 rear 09 with >50%, give me $65 and I will courier it to you. They will never go in the same building as any motorcycle of mine.:facepalm:

Me Me Me Me! I'll even pick it up, are you home Sunday arvo?

Cheers
Clint

[ducatijim]

Me Me Me Me! I'll even pick it up, are you home Sunday arvo?

Cheers
Clint

Yours if you wish Clint, yes, home sunday.

[Crisis management]

I've just fitted a Pirelli MT70 on the rear, I'm sick of shredding knobs in 3000 kms, I'll let you know in a week or so if it's any good (trials carried out on private road by profeshinul rider etc...)

[ducatijim]

Me Me Me Me! I'll even pick it up, are you home Sunday arvo?

Cheers
Clint

Oui fooked up sorry Clint. You see, i am challenged remembering stuff, get confused with numbers, a wee beet dyslexik......

ITS A BLOODY E07!

Sorry......:facepalm:

[NordieBoy]

Oui fooked up sorry Clint. You see, i am challenged remembering stuff, get confused with numbers, a wee beet dyslexik......

ITS A BLOODY E07!

Sorry......:facepalm:

Would you have to clean the blood off to courier it?


And whose blood?

[clint640]

I've just fitted a Pirelli MT70 on the rear, I'm sick of shredding knobs in 3000 kms, I'll let you know in a week or so if it's any good (trials carried out on private road by profeshinul rider etc...)

Bwaahaahaahahaha! The MT70 is actually not a bad tyre while it lasts, plenty 'o grip on gravel & great on the seal, but they are only good for about 4K km. I used quite a few on the rear until I discovered the EO-7 that lasts twice as long for a small sacrifice of tarmac grip.


Oui fooked up sorry Clint. You see, i am challenged remembering stuff, get confused with numbers, a wee beet dyslexik......

ITS A BLOODY E07!

Sorry......:facepalm:

No worries, E0-9, E0-7, it's all good with me, 9 for gnarly/winter rides, 7 for summer/commuting, I need one of each at the mo, you home Sunday? I'll be going through Reporoa again then.

Cheers
Clint

[Pikey]

E09's did the trick on Sunday. 500k of gravel and road. Not really what I got them for but performed well:scooter:

[ducatijim]

E09's did the trick on Sunday. 500k of gravel and road. Not really what I got them for but performed well:scooter:

Crikey!! WTF else would you want to use e09's for....a track day maybe?:facepalm:

[ducatijim]

you home Sunday? I'll be going through Reporoa again then.

Cheers
Clint

Yes, i expect to be!

[Pikey]

Crikey!! WTF else would you want to use e09's for....a track day maybe?:facepalm:

More for dirt etc in the Mangys etc. Big road k's not usually my thing :mellow:

[.chris]

I am about to put a new frontie on the 690, after the great experience I had with the Karoo 2, I think I might give a Karoo 2 (t) a try, at $144 seems pretty reasonable.

Anyone with a good reason not to give them a try?

And before you start, yes I know a MT21 is only $95, but I don't like the buzzy feeling you (read I) get from them, after something a bit smoother.

[ADVGD]

...at $144 seems pretty reasonable...

Interesting, their rears are noticeably pricier than most tyres, especially the larger 17s at $400+, the fronts however seem to be around to a little over standard price. :scratch: I'll be interested to hear your feedback on these if you get em...

[.chris]

Interesting, their rears are noticeably pricier than most tyres, especially the larger 17s at $400+, the fronts however seem to be around to a little over standard price. :scratch: I'll be interested to hear your feedback on these if you get em...

So far I have run a t Karoo 2 front and rear, they were both very good. the Karoo rear was great but did not last long, not sure if at $260 for a 140/80 18 is very good value, but performance they were excellent.
I may consider trying a Karoo 2 (t) rear next time if I am feeling rich enough, but an extra $100 over some other good options is hard to get past.

[ADVGD]

So far I have run a t Karoo 2 front and rear, they were both very good. the Karoo rear was great but did not last long, not sure if at $260 for a 140/80 18 is very good value, but performance they were excellent.
I may consider trying a Karoo 2 (t) rear next time if I am feeling rich enough, but an extra $100 over some other good options is hard to get past.

Looking at the prices (http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/324-metzeler_trail/5204-metzeler_mce_karoo.aspx)it seems only the wide 17s and extra wide 18s are pricey. To me $260 is a good price, especially if you like riding them. I might give one a nudge, how many Ks did you get from the rear, and what sort of ratios were you riding on tarmac/offroad?

[.chris]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1FXOO0sI16s/Tjd7ljOBx5I/AAAAAAAAKas/dy2PlkDPdqI/s912/11+-+1

Done deal, also put on some new brembo front brake pads.

I can't quote exact kms for that Karoo 2 rear, I think I got around 3000km, and it was partly worn when I got it (trademe special), guessing you would get about 5000km at best.
I managed to destory the last 20% of it on one trip down to Wanganui & back, my impression was it did not like the tarmac very much.
But saying that I got a good 7000km out of TKC 80 which is almost 2x what most people get so my riding style combined with slipper clutch and cush hub probably means I am reasonably kind to my tires.

[Night Falcon]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1FXOO0sI16s/Tjd7ljOBx5I/AAAAAAAAKas/dy2PlkDPdqI/s912/11+-+1

....But saying that I got a good 7000km out of TKC 80 which is almost 2x what most people get so my riding style combined with slipper clutch and cush hub probably means I am reasonably kind to my tires.

Kind...mate....any kinder and you' be santa!! When I sold my 990 and bought the 690 I thought " great at least I wont be buying rear tires as often" :facepalm: I try to be kind but 7K from a TKC !! I'd be riding on spokes after 5K??

[.chris]

Kind...mate....any kinder and you' be santa!! When I sold my 990 and bought the 690 I thought " great at least I wont be buying rear tires as often" :facepalm: I try to be kind but 7K from a TKC !! I'd be riding on spokes after 5K??

It was very slick around the 7k mark, was heaps of fun in the gravel :shit:

[Cary]

Dam right 17's are expensive.

Cycletreads had a 19" TKC80 front on special for $179 so got that, was gonna try a Mitas E-10 but as I was at Cycletreads............

Did want a knobby but were a bit pricy, $412 for Karoo2 and wasn't gonna move much on price. The Full Bore M-40 was good value and didn't look to bad so will give the Tiger a run on that.

Don't take the Tiger on anything to nasty anymore so the M-40 should do nicely.

244036

[Steelie]

Also went cycletreads yesterday. Went cheapo and put on a Kenda 761. $109 fitted with free coffee.:yes: Behaves nicer on the seal than the flattened off square edged D606 of coarse, but gravel maybe a different story. Anyways I have a half worn D606 in the garage for when required.

[.chris]

Dam right 17's are expensive.

244036

I got a quote for a 14/80 18 about a year or so ago, and the price was similar to that, so I am pleased to see them for only $260. But probably too expensive still since you can get a TKC80 for $170

At least there are more good options available.

[_Shrek_]

you can get a TKC80 for $170

hey chris are they still on special I need a 19 Front & 17 rear

[.chris]

hey chris are they still on special I need a 19 Front & 17 rear

I was giving the price for a 140/80 18, but they are on special.
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/573-continental_trail/4868-continental_tkc_80_trail_tyres.aspx

[NordieBoy]

I was giving the price for a 140/80 18, but they are on special.
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/573-continental_trail/4868-continental_tkc_80_trail_tyres.aspx

150x70x17. No stock and $360! Ouch!

[Woodman]

Ijust got a 1209017 tkc80 from them a coupla weeks ago for $127 delivered. Cheap is good at the moment.

Odd thing was that a few nights after I ordered it I got a call at home from the guy at cycletreads trying to talk me out of buying it. apparently a tkc80 is a 80% dirt tyre and would be no good for commuting.No worries i don't commute. Then apparently he had a mate with a gs800 that thought they were not very good on the road.Don't care I ride slow on the road. He then tried to fit me into some Siracs but I told him they were too smooth. Then he asked me what sort of bike I had and when I said i had a KLR he tried to tell me that a klr was not suitable for an 80% dirt tyre and again tried to fit me into a sirac. I told him that a sirac would not be any good at the beach races and he gave up then.

very odd experience:scratch:

[Padmei]

Ijust got a 1209017 tkc80 from them a coupla weeks ago for $127 delivered. Cheap is good at the moment.

Odd thing was that a few nights after I ordered it I got a call at home from the guy at cycletreads trying to talk me out of buying it. apparently a tkc80 is a 80% dirt tyre and would be no good for commuting.No worries i don't commute. Then apparently he had a mate with a gs800 that thought they were not very good on the road.Don't care I ride slow on the road. He then tried to fit me into some Siracs but I told him they were too smooth. Then he asked me what sort of bike I had and when I said i had a KLR he tried to tell me that a klr was not suitable for an 80% dirt tyre and again tried to fit me into a sirac. I told him that a sirac would not be any good at the beach races and he gave up then.

very odd experience:scratch:

And you got the last one on the shelf that he had promised to his mate?:yes:

[_Shrek_]

I was giving the price for a 140/80 18, but they are on special.
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/573-continental_trail/4868-continental_tkc_80_trail_tyres.aspx

cheers :apint: for that chris, went in & had a look but not avilable in my size :facepalm:

[clint640]

I was giving the price for a 140/80 18, but they are on special.
http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/573-continental_trail/4868-continental_tkc_80_trail_tyres.aspx

They've been on special for a while, I'm going to give one a try, never used one on the rear before cos of the stupid prices but at $180 they're much the same as anything else similar so they get my money. Also ordered an MT21 for the front, never used one of those before either but at $95 gotta be worth a go. With Jamie's old E0-7 plus a T-63 & D605 1/2 used fronts in the shed for commuting/touring duties I'm well set for the next 6 months.

Cheers
Clint

[Cary]

ordered an MT21 for the front, never used one of those before either but at $95 gotta be worth a go.
Cheers
ClintYou'll like the MT21, my tyre of choice on the front of the XR, road, gravel, mud, all good. (rears are good to, $140.....)

Had to look up the price as the guy I normally get them from said they were going up, might order one.

[ducatijim]

[QUOTE=Cary;1130125524]You'll like the MT21, my tyre of choice on the frontQUOTE]

+1. The MT21 is a great front;have used on 990 and 650 and never had any regrets :laugh:

[dino3310]

quick question, ive got a 110/100 tube even though its ment for 130/80 140/80(sez on tube) Will it be alright on a 120/80 or would it risk a bit of creasing maybe even a pinch on the lower profile?

[NordieBoy]

quick question, ive got a 110/100 tube even though its ment for 130/80 140/80(sez on tube) Will it be alright on a 120/80 or would it risk a bit of creasing maybe even a pinch on the lower profile?

Use a good amount of talc and it should be fine.

[warewolf]

quick question, ive got a 110/100 tube even though its ment for 130/80 140/80(sez on tube) Will it be alright on a 120/80 or would it risk a bit of creasing maybe even a pinch on the lower profile?It'll be fine, tubes are not that specific. The one tube is often labelled as everything from 100/ through 140/ in every ratio.

[dino3310]

got the bugger on, i got sick of the lower profile 120 TW302 and put my 2/3worn T63 on... man its a shit load easier to get on:laugh: but in my haste(fading light etc) i pinched the new tube:argh::doh: right on the inside to so out came the biggest patch i had cause the little ones wouldnt work (after 2 attempts) and when i got up this morning she was still up so that will do till next payday:done:

[NordieBoy]

Have I mentioned how much I like Shinko 705's?

I'm starting to feel they're a true 50/50 tyre.

:love:

[dino3310]

i'll stick to the AC10s as soon as i use up all my el cheapo's:laugh:

[umopom]

Hi...
how do the 606 dunlops ware ?
I have 605 on mine.. but ware
very quickly.. grip bloody good
on the seal...
very simular tread to the 606..

just picked up 2 new 605 off TM..
$50 notes each..rears a bit norrower
than what i'm running..for $50 I will live
with it..

Pete

Sorry for being slow to respond - usually two rears for every 606 - so about 6-7000kms - they are awesome on any surface including seal!!

[george formby]

Have I mentioned how much I like Shinko 705's?

I'm starting to feel they're a true 50/50 tyre.

:love:

I have not managed to put big miles on mine (yet) but to date, for what it cost, I am very impressed. I have a suspicious feeling it won't last long though. The fat twin is giving it a beating. No big deal, I can get 2 1/2 705's for the price of one road tire.

[Night Falcon]

Have I mentioned how much I like Shinko 705's?

I'm starting to feel they're a true 50/50 tyre.

:love:

where you get them from an how much? checked them on the net but look like they only do 17"?

[NordieBoy]

where you get them from an how much? checked them on the net but look like they only do 17"?

Running them on the DR (17") and TT (18").

Not sure on widths for 18" other than 120 and 4.6".

http://www.bits4bikes.co.nz/accessories/shinko-motorcycle-tyres/1176.aspx

About $120-130 a rear.

[Night Falcon]

Running them on the DR (17") and TT (18").

Not sure on widths for 18" other than 120 and 4.6".

http://www.bits4bikes.co.nz/accessories/shinko-motorcycle-tyres/1176.aspx

About $120-130 a rear.

cheers! and happy birthday for yesterday:niceone: I like the look of them (similar to AT90 Scorp) but 120's a bit narrow for the 690. almost pulled the trigger on the K60 scout which the nice lads have offered me KBr discount on but still $260.00 :shit: From what I've read they are a fantastic tire and wear rate is exceptional. As I've never managed more than 7K on any tire I've ever had they would be a good comparison. I would be happy to accept a set for promotional purposes though:shifty: I need to make decision soon before i destroy a perfectly good T63 on mainly road use :no:

[bart]

Are these any good for the riding we do? Bit narrow, but I don't mind that for this price.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400658953

[NordieBoy]

Are these any good for the riding we do? Bit narrow, but I don't mind that for this price.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400658953

Quite narrow but 6ply and at that price they're worth a go...

If they were 18", I'd be all over them.

[warewolf]

Quite narrow but 6ply and at that price they're worth a go...

If they were 18", I'd be all over them.They're not that narrow. Isn't that std on dr650 & xr650, domi etc? Same as a 100/100 or 120/90, depending on measuring system.

And yeah, I'd be up for some for the 200 as a road tyre if they were 18". Hmmm, this dr250 is 17" rear, needs rubber sometime...

[george formby]

I found out yesterday that Papa clay uphill bomb holes & ruts need a tracked vehicle to negotiate. Oh well, I'm sure the 2 hours walking did me good.:no:


http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz205/harveykrumpet/The%20Farm/GOPR0014.jpg

[NordieBoy]

You need a DR650 you do. Just floats across that sort of crap.

[george formby]

You need a DR650 you do. Just floats across that sort of crap.

I just need better balance, so close yet so far. Road legal Kenda on the back did remarkably well all things considered. That was the last of 6 similar holes I blew it on:facepalm: Do I look a bit Ghey in that shot, little tea pot?

[NordieBoy]

Do I look a bit Ghey in that shot, little tea pot?

Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but yes, yes you do...

[86GSXR]

Shinko 705's :shifty:

After a bit of advice and some googling I have a set of Shinko 705's going on me DR tomorrow morning. Quite exciting really :soon:

[NordieBoy]

After a bit of advice and some googling I have a set of Shinko 705's going on me DR tomorrow morning. Quite exciting really :soon:

You won't like them. Don't say I didn't warn you...

[86GSXR]

Couldn't find a decent word written about them either :laugh:

[_Shrek_]

After a bit of advice and some googling I have a set of Shinko 705's going on me DR tomorrow morning. Quite exciting really :soon:

let me know how you get on with them 86... I have a new radial to fit as they replaced the one that delaminated, but my bike weighs a bit more than the dr

[86GSXR]

Wildo Shrek, from all accounts they're pretty good and they will get a thrash around the hills on the weekend :yes: Delaminated? That's not good!

[_Shrek_]

Wildo Shrek, from all accounts they're pretty good and they will get a thrash around the hills on the weekend :yes: Delaminated? That's not good!

I ran a set from new the rear last about 5k & fell to bits the front hadn't even worn the tits off & was stuffed they were rag tyres & they replaced the front with a radial but would not replace the rear as it was worn down to 2mm
in saying that it wasn't treated that well going over Lake Onslow/Dunsten trail :laugh: after talking with old rider, Nordie & a few others i'm thinking they are no good on big bikes
but I will run the new radial they sent me & see how it holds, may even get a rear also

[86GSXR]

Ahhhh I see. This is what Shinko have to say about your situation

"The Shinko 705 Crossply is more suited to lighter dual sports / trail models up to 650cc such as TTR600, DR650 and KLR650. It is not suitable for heavier adventure bikes such as the V-Strom, larger BMW GS`s, KTM Adventure etc. For these larger capacity the Shinko 705 Radial is recommended".

5K wasn't too bad then, I'd say you'll be right with the radial :)

[_Shrek_]

Ahhhh I see. This is what Shinko have to say about your situation

"The Shinko 705 Crossply is more suited to lighter dual sports / trail models up to 650cc such as TTR600, DR650 and KLR650. It is not suitable for heavier adventure bikes such as the V-Strom, larger BMW GS`s, KTM Adventure etc. For these larger capacity the Shinko 705 Radial is recommended".

5K wasn't too bad then, I'd say you'll be right with the radial :)

I had a good chat (they were the others on last post) with them on it & thats we came up with & it was 3k (typo) on last rear, hence why I'm a bit shy on running them again, but as it's been said these are radials so when summer is here will put them on, still running the E-10's front & rear

[george formby]

A recent ride home on a twisty badly surfaced road right on dusk with the dew coming down had my 705 rear feeling "vague" on smooth patches of road. Did'nt step out but did not inspire confidence either compared to sports touring tires. It was a good reminder to curb my enthusiasm to the conditions. Having said that the grip on gravel roads has far exceeded my expectations & that is why I put it on.:niceone:

[NordieBoy]

There's those on AdvRider who say they're unpredictable in the gravel and can't stand them :D

[george formby]

There's those on AdvRider who say they're unpredictable in the gravel and can't stand them :D

Yeah, gravel is unpredictable.:laugh:

But it responds consistently & predictably to a good throttling.

[86GSXR]

Right. The new Shinko 705's are on and have been for a bit of a run.

They looked great when I first saw them, they're a large, tall tyre and make the bike look a lot more 'butch' :shit: than did the OEM Bridgestones.

The depth of rubber over the knobs is quite impressive and once on the road that extra gives a nicely firm but compliant ride.

They tip in very quickly and once in the turn they hold a line very nicely and have excellent controlability and grip. They handle lean right to the edge and on a dry road I never felt any sign of letting go.

I took them up Takapari Rd, a gnarly bit of steep, rocky, muddy mountain gravel.

Initially they felt a bit 'squirmy' on damp gravel but after a few mins I'd got used to this and in fact came to the conclusion that they were actually doing an excellent job of finding the available grip, at road pressures too.

Up the top it was wet, cold and very rough and slippery in places - never had an issue.

Some of the return trip had me onto wet seal which was also not a problem.

So far they're looking like a winner, and an excellent price at around the $130.00 mark :woohoo:

[NordieBoy]

What pressures were you running off the seal?

I like them at 20f/18r on the DR. They get quite compliant in the rocks when aired down. In rockier terrain, I'd prefer a 705 rear to an MT21.

[86GSXR]

Not too sure on the pressures tbh, the shop fitted them as part of the 6K service, I didn't get the gauge onto them so I'd say the low 20's. 20/18 sounds pretty good and would make a big difference. Did the same route today, in the dry this time and again absolutely no issues. I like em :yes:

[pete376403]

I was pretty impressed how the 705s got my KLR up some pretty snotty karipoti wet clay a few weeks back.
I bailed out before getting to the metre deep gloop-filled ruts, though.

[Pikey]

The E09's got me through on sunday:yes:

[Taz]

Not too sure on the pressures tbh, the shop fitted them

Dude take ownership of your pressures! Check them regularly. I had a shop fit a tyre and luckily I checked before riding. 63psi FFS! :lol:

[ADVGD]

Dude take ownership of your pressures! Check them regularly.

+1 on that

[clint640]

Dude take ownership of your pressures! Check them regularly. I had a shop fit a tyre and luckily I checked before riding. 63psi FFS! :lol:

Amen to that. I think it was the 1st new set of tyres I got for the 640, MT70's, rode away from the shop, got up to speed, OMG WTF! These tyres are terrible! Well no actually, it was more that they only had 20 psi in em :shit: You would think a KTM dealer might have access to the manual & would set the pressures to the recommended value but no. :no:

On another tyre related note, fitted up my trail ride set of K760's for the 1st time for a while for some dirty fun last weekend, they don't go too bad offroad for a cheapy.

Clint

[Taz]

On another tyre related note, fitted up my trail ride set of K760's for the 1st time for a while for some dirty fun last weekend, they don't go too bad offroad for a cheapy.

Clint

Squirm a little on the road though Eh :) But still seem to last ok.

[george formby]

What pressures were you running off the seal?

I like them at 20f/18r on the DR. They get quite compliant in the rocks when aired down. In rockier terrain, I'd prefer a 705 rear to an MT21.

Do you use something to pump them up for the trip home?

Serious question.

[NordieBoy]

Do you use something to pump them up for the trip home?

Serious question.

A pump.


Nah. Usually leave them alone and pump them up later.
eg. If fueling up for the ride home...

Hint: If the garage air hose won't fit properly, most of them will bend quite a bit :shifty:

24f/26r on the road with no luggage and 20f/18r off road/gravel.

If there's a long seal run to or from a ride, I'll run the road pressures to and from but no worries if I forget.

The rears last me about 9,000km and the front > 20,000 so far.

[george formby]

Ta Nordie. I was hoping you had a nifty inflator. After my last outing I'm getting serious & organising a "get myself out the sticky poo" kit for the bikes.

[NordieBoy]

Ta Nordie. I was hoping you had a nifty inflator. After my last outing I'm getting serious & organising a "get myself out the sticky poo" kit for the bikes.

2 way mountain bike pump. For emergency use only.
Takes too long to get from 18 to 26 psi in the rear. Better to stop at a garage.
Coffee, pie, fuel, pump up tyres...

[george formby]

2 way mountain bike pump. For emergency use only.
Takes too long to get from 18 to 26 psi in the rear. Better to stop at a garage.
Coffee, pie, fuel, pump up tyres...

:laugh: The first garage I see is 2km from home.

[Taz]

:laugh: The first garage I see is 2km from home.

Then you're not riding far enough.

[Frodo]

Ta Nordie. I was hoping you had a nifty inflator. After my last outing I'm getting serious & organising a "get myself out the sticky poo" kit for the bikes.

I use a Kathmandu bike pump. Fits nicely under my seat and fine for increasing pressures when back on the seal. Wouldn't want to inflate a flat tyre though, but I'd rather have the option as garages aren't always where you want them.

[warewolf]

mtb pump works quite well, even from flat - only takes about 30 secs to fill a front, 3-4 times that for a rear to mid-20s psi.

Riding in these parts tends to be alternating short-ish bursts of seal and gravel, so you'd be forever changing pressures if you were anal about it. Better to choose a tyre that isn't so finicky about pressures, ie pretty much anything but a TKC80 or Karoo!

[Woodman]

mtb pump works quite well, even from flat - only takes about 30 secs to fill a front, 3-4 times that for a rear to mid-20s psi.

Riding in these parts tends to be alternating short-ish bursts of seal and gravel, so you'd be forever changing pressures if you were anal about it. Better to choose a tyre that isn't so finicky about pressures, ie pretty much anything but a TKC80 or Karoo!

Oh no, I,m the worlds worst tyre pressure checker and have a tkc80 sitting in the shed ready to go on when the e09 wears out. Surely they can't be that finnicky???

Also +1 on the mtb pump works fine pumping from flat.

[86GSXR]

Dude take ownership of your pressures! Check them regularly. I had a shop fit a tyre and luckily I checked before riding. 63psi FFS! :lol:


+1 on that


Amen to that. I think it was the 1st new set of tyres I got for the 640, MT70's, rode away from the shop, got up to speed, OMG WTF! These tyres are terrible! Well no actually, it was more that they only had 20 psi in em :shit: You would think a KTM dealer might have access to the manual & would set the pressures to the recommended value but no. :no:

On another tyre related note, fitted up my trail ride set of K760's for the 1st time for a while for some dirty fun last weekend, they don't go too bad offroad for a cheapy.

Clint

Lol, yeah you're right and I'm ashamed to say I didn't check em :Oops: They felt good on the road though and I've known the shop guys for years and they know how I ride. Just checked them and the rear was 23 and the front 20, they went on last Friday so probably a pretty good setting. I will be experimenting :yes:

[warewolf]

Oh no, I,m the worlds worst tyre pressure checker and have a tkc80 sitting in the shed ready to go on when the e09 wears out. Surely they can't be that finnicky???They evaporate on tar unless at appropriately high pressures, and don't work on the dirt until they get quite low.

[BMWST?]

road oriented front.I need a new front tyre,want something that will give very good road grip but still be ok on gravel or dirt road.Dont want or need a knobby

[86GSXR]

road oriented front.I need a new front tyre,want something that will give very good road grip but still be ok on gravel or dirt road.Dont want or need a knobby

Well, on good recommendation I've just fitted Shinko 705's front and rear. FWIW so far, very good. Looks like they'll last too. About $128.00 for a 90/90 120 :yes: Not suited for bigger bikes tho, they do a radial for the heavier machines.

[_Shrek_]

road oriented front.I need a new front tyre,want something that will give very good road grip but still be ok on gravel or dirt road.Dont want or need a knobby

you have the choice of mitis Eo8, is good on the seal & metal & the shenko 705 but put the radial on as the rag no good for big bike both $$ about the same

[pete-blen]

you have the choice of mitis Eo8, is good on the seal & metal & the shenko 705 but put the radial on as the rag no good for big bike both $$ about the same


what about the Kenda 761s...
Dosn't seem to be a lot of people talk about them
is the a prob with them ?..

[clint640]

road oriented front.I need a new front tyre,want something that will give very good road grip but still be ok on gravel or dirt road.Dont want or need a knobby

Pirelli MT70 is peg draggingly good on tar & cheap.

Cheers
Clint

[_Shrek_]

what about the Kenda 761s...
Dosn't seem to be a lot of people talk about them
is the a prob with them ?..

have not tried them Pete so can't comment, what do they look like & have you used them?

[george formby]

Well, on good recommendation I've just fitted Shinko 705's front and rear. FWIW so far, very good. Looks like they'll last too. About $128.00 for a 90/90 120 :yes: Not suited for bigger bikes tho, they do a radial for the heavier machines.

I've got an MT 90AT front & shinko 705 rear. Tread pattern is almost identical & both are behaving admirably thus far.

[pete-blen]

have not tried them Pete so can't comment, what do they look like & have you used them?

i havn't used them..but did look at them before I
put the Dunlop 605s on..."not done alot of ks on
them but they seem a ok set of rubber... Bit more
aggressive tread patten but use a softer rubber so grip well
on the seal..I can use the whole tread & have not
looked like slideing.."fingers crossed"

Pic below..Kenda 761 duel sport..

[NordieBoy]

Pic below..Kenda 761 duel sport..

Not to be confused with the 760...
http://www.aviciouscycle.ca/images/k760.jpg

[ADVGD]

Not to be confused with the 760...
http://www.aviciouscycle.ca/images/k760.jpg

I still have the same 760 I was trialling on the rear, surprisingly just shy of 3000km and still around half tread left. I have seen you take the 761 in some seriously muddy/clay/loose terrain NordieBoy however I believe that was attributed to rider ability rather than tyre ability. Personally I would never run a 761 as it is simply not aggressive enough for the type of riding I do, if the choice was limited to Kenda I would have the 760 any day of the week (based on the casings proving themselves)

[NordieBoy]

I still have the same 760 I was trialling on the rear, surprisingly just shy of 3000km and still around half tread left. I have seen you take the 761 in some seriously muddy/clay/loose terrain NordieBoy however I believe that was attributed to rider ability rather than tyre ability. Personally I would never run a 761 as it is simply not aggressive enough for the type of riding I do, if the choice was limited to Kenda I would have the 760 any day of the week (based on the casings proving themselves)

Never used the 761 myself. That was a pair of Shinko 705's.

I've got a 760 I used in violent terrain on the back of the DR with an MT21 front but now the TT350 has come along, the DR won't get used as violently.

New 705 on the back of the DR now matched up with the 20,000km front.
I expect the front to last out the rear.

[ADVGD]

Never used the 761 myself. That was a pair of Shinko 705's.

http://myfiero.com/uploads/15626_.jpg

Those tyres for this ride (http://www.adventureguide.co.nz/articles/12/98/west-coast-ride.php), I said it before and I'll say it again, that's madness :p

[BMWST?]

anyone tried a sahara 3?

[Taz]

anyone tried a sahara 3?

Lots of people have.

[NordieBoy]

Those tyres for this ride (http://www.adventureguide.co.nz/articles/12/98/west-coast-ride.php), I said it before and I'll say it again, that's madness :p

Those tyres for the Mt Patriarch snow ride were even moar fun :scooter::pinch:

[warewolf]

anyone tried a sahara 3?Expensive, short-lived esp. fronts, and very soft but sticky sports compound, comparatively. Rears have less bite than TKC80 but only last the same time, 4000km for me. Fronts only last 6000km, TKC80 lasts 50-100% longer.

15 years ago they were the tyre of choice for many RTW riders though.

[.chris]

Expensive, short-lived esp. fronts, and very soft but sticky sports compound, comparatively. Rears have less bite than TKC80 but only last the same time, 4000km for me. Fronts only last 6000km, TKC80 lasts 50-100% longer.

15 years ago they were the tyre of choice for many RTW riders though.

I got about 8000km out of the ear, and over 11,000km out of the front.
They came stock on my 690, would quite like to keep using them, but no-one seems to import them.

[Padmei]

Is there a new kenda DP tyre out?

[pete-blen]

Is there a new kenda DP tyre out?

There web site says this is a new tyre ??
http://kendatire.com/media/2226935/big_block.png
http://kendatire.com/en/home/motorcycle/dual-sport/big-block.aspx

[warewolf]

Yep, that's it, a newie, must've only been put there in the last few months. Only in big thumper and big twin sizes.

[CrazyFrog]

Yep, saw those Kenda's on Cycletreads a couple of weeks ago.
Here ya go, sizes avail in NZ with NZ prices....

http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/306-kenda_trail/5276-kenda_k784_trail_tyre.aspx

[Waihou Thumper]

Yep, saw those Kenda's on Cycletreads a couple of weeks ago.
Here ya go, sizes avail in NZ with NZ prices....

http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/306-kenda_trail/5276-kenda_k784_trail_tyre.aspx

They don't look too bad and are reasonably priced, free fitting, maybe head up to Auckland one Sat and get some.

[Transalper]

They don't look too bad and are reasonably priced, free fitting, maybe head up to Auckland one Sat and get some.

Look like they may make for a good Dusty Butt or Capital Coast tyre option.

[Waihou Thumper]

120/80 17 is my size, but I can go to a 130/80 17 as long as it fits between the swinging arm right? Have I got that right?

[Taz]

120/80 17 is my size, but I can go to a 130/80 17 as long as it fits between the swinging arm right? Have I got that right?

Yes 130 fitted on my XT with no problems.

[cooneyr]

Woo hoo - some decent looking adv rubber in the factory size for the 9X0 adventures for less than $350. Oh wait I sold the 950. I'd have given one of those a spin.

Cheers R

[_Shrek_]

Woo hoo - some decent looking adv rubber in the factory size for the 9X0 adventures for less than $350. Oh wait I sold the 950. I'd have given one of those a spin.

Cheers R

:innocent: did you sell it as parts :corn:

246353

[Transalper]

:innocent: did you sell it as parts :corn:

246353

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, that's a good photo, even better when I realised it IS him.

[NordieBoy]

:innocent: did you sell it as parts :corn:

"It's getting warmer, I'll just turn the choke off"...

[_Shrek_]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, that's a good photo, even better when I realised it IS him.

:facepalm: & some left overs 246396

[_Shrek_]

"It's getting warmer, I'll just turn the choke off"...

na I thought he was changing the spark plug :shutup: so I asked him

& got 246403

[NordieBoy]

na I thought he was changing the spark plug :shutup: so I asked him

& got 246403

So just the one then :D

[cooneyr]

I've been waiting for those photos to surface. You took your time Shrek :msn-wink:

Thanks to a multimeter from the helpful local servo I had it running like a new one. Even sold it with my "bodge" in place. Just needed a new starter solenoid. As far as I know the solenoid and a fuel pump were the only two issues in 60k km for that bike.

Was a fun ride from the river crossings behind Waimate through to Kurow. Everybody opened the gates for me and I was giving it some right wrist to catch wifey before she left Kurow in case I couldn't fix the issue.

Cheers R

P.s. changing the spark plug is a much more difficult job than bodging the starter circuit.

[_Shrek_]

I've been waiting for those photos to surface. You took your time Shrek :msn-wink: .

:laugh: :apint:

[Transalper]

Don't hear much about the Dunlop D606 now days. They were reasonably good for me.
I see the Honda shop in Hornby, CHCH has 17 inch rears on TM for $198.

I'm running the Mitas E09's for the next Dusty Butt.
Allready put my name down for some for when the next lot arrive here.

[Rosie]

Don't hear much about the Dunlop D606 now days. They were reasonably good for me.
I see the Honda shop in Hornby, CHCH has 17 inch rears on TM for $198.

I'm running the Mitas E09's for the next Dusty Butt.
Allready put my name down for some for when the next lot arrive here.

Apparently they don't import D606s wider than 130 anymore, which rules them out for quite a few bikes, except little 250s :sunny: I've just fitted one to the WR, but haven't tried it out yet.
By the end of tomorrow I should know if I like it or not.

[warewolf]

Apparently they don't import D606s wider than 130 anymore, which rules them out for quite a few bikes, except little 250s :sunny: You mean 'wide as 130'?? Don't think they've ever made a 140, the 130/90-18 is the closest fit for the 640A and I've never found it available in NZ. :wait: It's one of those tyres I'd've liked to try, but probably never will.

[ADVGD]

I'm running the Mitas E09's for the next Dusty Butt.
Allready put my name down for some for when the next lot arrive here.

Nice choice Carl, I hope that shipment arrives in time as I have a set tagged also. E09's are still one of my favourite tyres, I really rate them for all round riding including the gnarly stuff plus good road K's, it's just the erratic availability that is a continual issue. With regards to the rocky terrain on the DB1K challenge sections and the importance of good casings, if they don't arrive I may give the new Kenda K784's a whirl, anybody tried them and got some feedback yet?

[cynna]

I'm running the Mitas E09's for the next Dusty Butt.
Allready put my name down for some for when the next lot arrive here.

how much are they now? i think they were about $200 last time i asked so got a c02 (or is it co5). wanted it for winter but never put it on .... going to wear out the knobs pretty quick now there is no mud and i will be doing longer rides

[Transalper]

E09 Dakar Front was $145, E09 rear was $180ish last time I asked.
Exchange rate seem to affect things a bit, lately a lot of stuff from overseas seems a little better than it was.
You know they seem to change with every shipment.
I have a front ordered but already have a partly worn rear that I will put back on for that weekend.

Seen the Michelin T63's on some bikes yesterday. There price may be slightly sharper than the Mitas and was thinking I will try them myself sometime.

[Rosie]

You mean 'wide as 130'??

Yeah, probably. Sometimes when Clint is complaining about important things like tyres, I forget to listen as closely as I should :facepalm:

Anyway, they seem like a pretty good tyre. They managed damp sand and wet tar today without giving me any nasty surprises :sunny:

[warewolf]

Anyway, they seem like a pretty good tyre. They managed damp sand and wet tar today without giving me any nasty surprises :sunny:Yep, 'swhy I wanted to try them meself.

[Rosie]

Yep, 'swhy I wanted to try them meself.

Best you get a 250 then :yes:

[Transalper]

how much are they now? i think they were about $200 last time i asked so got a c02 (or is it co5). wanted it for winter but never put it on .... going to wear out the knobs pretty quick now there is no mud and i will be doing longer rides

I can confirm the E09Dakar 90/90-21 front is $145 and the normal E09 rear in 130/80-17 (think that is what he quoted) is $199 at DAS at this time.
Prices for tyre only, not fitted etc as we like to fit our own to keep in practice don't we. :yes:
DAS have two more fronts and a E10 in there now.
The C02 rear is still cheaper around $170 so I may give another one of those a try this time on back of the TA when I need to do the back next... but got a couple of second hand rears to go through first.
Just got my E09 Dakar front today ready to put on for the Dusty Butt in January.

[clint640]

I can confirm the E09Dakar 90/90-21 front is $145 and the normal E09 rear in 130/80-17 (think that is what he quoted) is $199 at DAS at this time.
.

At that price you might as well get a Michelin T63 rear, $20 cheaper for basically the same thing. Not sure why Mitas prices have been climbing up so much over the last few yrs when the $ vs euro has only been improving.

Cheers
Clint

[Eddieb]

What are the current thoughts on a resonably priced mud friendly knobbly tyre for the front of the DR650?

A year or so ago the D606 seemed to be the go, is that still the case or has something else taken over?

[NordieBoy]

What are the current thoughts on a resonably priced mud friendly knobbly tyre for the front of the DR650?

A year or so ago the D606 seemed to be the go, is that still the case or has something else taken over?

Kenda 760?

[Padmei]

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[Woodman]

What are the current thoughts on a resonably priced mud friendly knobbly tyre for the front of the DR650?

A year or so ago the D606 seemed to be the go, is that still the case or has something else taken over?

MT21 works good for me. Cheap too. A bit noisy on the road but handles tar well. Good on gravel/mud. Tends to lock up easy which is weird, but I will get another one. You can turn them round too when the knobs start surfing as they are non-directional.

[NordieBoy]

I've reversed my current MT21 front about 3 times now to keep it even.
Makes it last a lot longer.

[clint640]

What are the current thoughts on a resonably priced mud friendly knobbly tyre for the front of the DR650?

A year or so ago the D606 seemed to be the go, is that still the case or has something else taken over?

D606's are good, but no way are they cheap. I'm quite liking the MT21 I just put on, done about 800km so far over a variety of surfaces.


I've reversed my current MT21 front about 3 times now to keep it even.
Makes it last a lot longer.

Good to know :yes:

Cheers
Clint

[dino3310]

Nads, thought these fronts might be good for ya yearly beach racing, cheap as bro http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/tyres/auction-413975814.htm

[Padmei]

Chur bro. Might try a slick for the rear this year:shit:

[Eddieb]

D606's are good, but no way are they cheap. I'm quite liking the MT21 I just put on, done about 800km so far over a variety of surfaces.


Well I went with the 606, I don't enjoy changing tyres and fronts last forever for me. The 606 seems to be a proven tyre on the DR so I'll see how it goes.

[Woodman]

Anyone had any experience with Fullbore adv tyres.? M40 and M41?
Cycletreads are doing them quite cheap and I want to get more roady tyres.

[NordieBoy]

Anyone had any experience with Fullbore adv tyres.? M40 and M41?
Cycletreads are doing them quite cheap and I want to get more roady tyres.

The pic is of their Shinko 705 clone.

[Rosie]

Well I went with the 606, I don't enjoy changing tyres and fronts last forever for me.

Practise, practise, practise. My first few tyres just about destroyed my will to live - now I don't mind changing fronts by myself. The rear is a bit more of a challenge, but I'm slowly improving.

[Oscar]

Chur bro. Might try a slick for the rear this year:shit:

Give it to me.
My 950 gets rid of tread off of tyres very efficiently....

[_Shrek_]

just fitted Eo7 to the hobbit bike & will put one on the front when needed, that should keep mrs Shrek going for some time to come me thinks, & have got them on order for the 1150 as mitas make them tubbless for the big bikes now :Punk: that way I can save my E10's for the Db1k :woohoo:

[k14]

Just making sure that I am thinking straight. Going to get some nobblies for my DRZ400. It seems as though a M21 front is a pretty good bet for the front. But for rear it seems the E09, T63 and D606 are all pretty much of a muchness?? So I guess it will just come down to price? Probably going to do the DB1000 so that is the type of riding the tyre needs to be aimed at.

Am I thinking along the right lines here??

[_Shrek_]

But for rear it seems the E09, T63 and D606 are all pretty much of a muchness?? So I guess it will just come down to price? Probably going to do the DB1000 so that is the type of riding the tyre needs to be aimed at.

Am I thinking along the right lines here??

:niceone: :yes: :first:

[NordieBoy]

Just rode with the race knobblies from last weekend...

Hardpack, papa clay, dirt, gravel, shale...

12r/14f psi.

I have more consistency and predictability from the Shinko 705's in the same conditions and the trials rear just blows it away.

I even bogged and stopped going up Hurricane Hill!

I think climbing out of the Gun Club Valley up to the base of Mt Everest would be Nelson's version of Cnut Hill. Possible, not dangerous but a right bugger...

[ADVGD]

But for rear it seems the E09, T63 and D606 are all pretty much of a muchness??

I'd choose an E09 over a D606 any day, the D606 is a good general all-rounder tyre but I find in the gnarly greasy muddy stuff they don't perform anywhere near as well as the E09

[warewolf]

I'd choose an E09 over a D606 any day, the D606 is a good general all-rounder tyre but I find in the gnarly greasy muddy stuff they don't perform anywhere near as well as the E09Why? They're knobblier than the E-09 so should have more bight.

Sure you're not getting confused with the D605?

[ADVGD]

Why? They're knobblier than the E-09 so should have more bight.

Sure you're not getting confused with the D605?

Bugger me, that's two posts in the last two days I've cocked up due to mind blanks and misreading :facepalm: You're right mate, I was thinking 605's not the 606's, ignore my misguided waffle!

Its the 605 that I find has a close pattern that fills quickly and is hard to shed, the inside edge has very little bite in the greasy muddy stuff, climbing out of a deep rut or sidling steep greasy gradients is a bit of a slip'n'dance type scenario.

[pete-blen]

Bugger me, that's two posts in the last two days I've cocked up due to mind blanks and misreading :facepalm: You're right mate, I was thinking 605's not the 606's, ignore my misguided waffle!

Its the 605 that I find has a close pattern that fills quickly and is hard to shed, the inside edge has very little bite in the greasy muddy stuff, climbing out of a deep rut or sidling steep greasy gradients is a bit of a slip'n'dance type scenario.

I have 605s..you are right..mud or soft wet dirt they are hopeless..
On anything ealse they are great... they have a soft compound
great on anything hardish....

[Rosie]

Just making sure that I am thinking straight. Going to get some nobblies for my DRZ400. It seems as though a M21 front is a pretty good bet for the front. But for rear it seems the E09, T63 and D606 are all pretty much of a muchness?? So I guess it will just come down to price? Probably going to do the DB1000 so that is the type of riding the tyre needs to be aimed at.

Am I thinking along the right lines here??

I've never tried an E-09 (not sure if they even make them in my size), but do I like the D606 more than the T63, it seems to be wearing a lot better than the T63 did, and the T63 had a habit of disappearing sideways when its slippery, which the D606 hasn't been doing yet. The D606 is almost twice the price of the T63, but, so far, it might almost be twice as good* :sunny:

*on a WRR, being ridden by Rosie. YMMV.

[NordieBoy]

I have 605s..you are right..mud or soft wet dirt they are hopeless..
On anything ealse they are great... they have a soft compound
great on anything hardish....

Snow?

:shifty:

[Underground]

D606 comes in 130 90 17 as opposed to my usual 130 80
From what I understand it will give about 30mm increase in dia... am I on the right track here? or is there more to it than that?
D606 and T63 are the same price and about $15 cheaper than E09 at the mo so am tossing up between them with an MT21 front for the Dommie.

[pete-blen]

Snow?

:shifty:

Hopeless in snow....
Think I picked the bike up 4 times....
But who's counting...:shutup:

[dino3310]

TKC 18" http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=414491867

[warewolf]

D606 comes in 130 90 17 as opposed to my usual 130 80
From what I understand it will give about 30mm increase in dia... am I on the right track here? or is there more to it than that?Yep, 130/90 is a BIG tyre. You may get tight on the swingarm and/or under-tail clearance if it's 15mm taller.

A variation of 10mm in tread depth from new to worn is a similar gearing change to about 2-3T at the rear sprocket, 7-ish percent or something IIRC. So your 13mm (theoretically) difference is going to gear the bike up nearly 10% which will be very noticeable. It'll also lift the seat about half that.

[Eddieb]

Well I went with the 606, I don't enjoy changing tyres and fronts last forever for me. The 606 seems to be a proven tyre on the DR so I'll see how it goes.

Well after Saturday and Sunday's riding I'm happy with the D606 on the front, that will be staying there. Good grip on the gravel, it's worn in to about 2mm from the outside edge of the knobs from the seal and no traction issues in the thick gluggy mud we did on Sunday.

[Underground]

Yep, 130/90 is a BIG tyre. You may get tight on the swingarm and/or under-tail clearance if it's 15mm taller.

A variation of 10mm in tread depth from new to worn is a similar gearing change to about 2-3T at the rear sprocket, 7-ish percent or something IIRC. So your 13mm (theoretically) difference is going to gear the bike up nearly 10% which will be very noticeable. It'll also lift the seat about half that.
Hmm, might go with the T63 then, dont really want to be much taller or that much higher geared either .
I've got a one tooth smaller front to gear down for gnarlier rides and I wouldnt have that option with a taller tyre.

[k14]

Went into the bike shop yesterday. The MT21 was a pretty easy choice and only $95 rrp which is a bargain (when you are used to paying $500 for a set of slicks that lasts 1 day!). The D606 was $220 and he wasn't sure on the Mitas E09. He said the E09 was a pretty decent tyre so I will just get what ever is cheaper out of the 606 and E09.

Better get onto fitting all the other goodies I have bought for the bike in the last few months!

[Pikey]

The Dunlop on the DR Sudman got is looking a bit sick :sick: Very unfriendly wear pattern :blink:

[CrazyFrog]

Torpedo 7 have just got in a shipment of Pirelli knobblies, great for those who prefer something with a bit of bite. The Scorpion XC Mid Hard is DOT rated, but only avail in 18" rears for $119.
Good for us KTM or DRZ riders:yes:

http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/content/productpicks/division/motocross/pirelli_xcmidhard

[cynna]

Torpedo 7 have just got in a shipment of Pirelli knobblies, great for those who prefer something with a bit of bite. The Scorpion XC Mid Hard is DOT rated, but only avail in 18" rears for $119.


what sort of mileage would you get out of these compared to a d606, c02 etc

[george formby]

Just a quickie, I'm sure the info is here somewhere but can't be arsed to look. What pressure should I run my Scorpion Mt 90 front & shinko 705 rear tires at? I had a nice run on the road on Monday & the front is shedding rubber off the side treads, nothing drastic but I ended up with fine boot laces of rubber on the edge of each block. They are currently 36 / 38 psi respectively.

I'm happy enough with the grip but got a little carried away over the Mangamukas & the rear gave me a little tut tut, naughty boy twitch. To be expected really.

[NordieBoy]

On the TDM?
24psi or so front and rear for gravel.
Go up or down from there to suit. Some tyres have different sweet spots.

On the DR650, the MT21 rear was bouncing off rocks until under 18psi, the 705 is quite happy at around 18psi rear, 20psi front.
On the TT350, I have to go down to about 14f/12r with the 705's as the bike is so much lighter.

[CrazyFrog]

what sort of mileage would you get out of these compared to a d606, c02 etc

Depends on how hard you're yanking the throttle, and what bike you're on, on trail bikes they're fine. They seem to last okay on the EXC, even with a bit of hard charging, but I do tend to cruise on the highway, not wanting to attract to much attention :Police:
Generally, the more you spin it up on gravel or rocky trails, the more they wear. If you ride smoothly, you should easily get around 2000km or more, and worn tread knobblies do ride better on seal anyway, less vibey. I would still rather get 2 of these for the price of a T63 or TKC80, because I prefer offroad/gravel grip rather than high mileage.
Incidently, i rode over 1400km last year on a 3 day trip with a Kings tyre rear, not DOT and it only wore about 2/3rds over the whole ride.

[george formby]

On the TDM?
24psi or so front and rear for gravel.
Go up or down from there to suit. Some tyres have different sweet spots.

On the DR650, the MT21 rear was bouncing off rocks until under 18psi, the 705 is quite happy at around 18psi rear, 20psi front.
On the TT350, I have to go down to about 14f/12r with the 705's as the bike is so much lighter.

Yup, on Tubby. Cheers.

[pete-blen]

dose anyone know of a tyre in the 120/80/18 size
or there abouts that has a squareish profile..
On the sidecar after only 500k the centre of the
tyre is wareing very quickly..
It yet may come down to useing cheap tyres with
a hard compound .. ie K270 kenda's $100 each..

[george formby]

dose anyone know of a tyre in the 120/80/18 size
or there abouts that has a squareish profile..
On the sidecar after only 500k the centre of the
tyre is wareing very quickly..
It yet may come down to useing cheap tyres with
a hard compound .. ie K270 kenda's $100 each..

That's the size of the rear on my new bike, will have a look for ya. Not going to be back on line til Tuesday, though.

[NordieBoy]

dose anyone know of a tyre in the 120/80/18 size
or there abouts that has a squareish profile..
On the sidecar after only 500k the centre of the
tyre is wareing very quickly..
It yet may come down to useing cheap tyres with
a hard compound .. ie K270 kenda's $100 each..

Go some 100 section Pirelli knobbliyish thingies.

[pete-blen]

spoted this on TM...
seems a good buy for someone..
2 big for my bike...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=418603504

[george formby]

That's the size of the rear on my new bike, will have a look for ya. Not going to be back on line til Tuesday, though.

I'm speaking tosh & balderdash. It's a 120/ 100- 18 Viper Moto X tire.

[CookMySock]

Can anyone suggest 17 inch tires (650cc vtwin normally takes 160/60/17 and 120/60/17) that will mostly be on-road touring, but will regularly be required to handle (well!) steep-ish gravel vehicle tracks (that you would put your shiny 4wd over - not serious off-road country) and the occasional damp grassy steep paddock (no mud.) I'd prefer they lasted a while as well, but I won't be cornering this bike hard on the road.

I'd just use road tires, but descending steep bits on grass with the dew around will be very amusing for everyone but me lol. Looking at a comet conversion hehe.

[george formby]

Can anyone suggest 17 inch tires (650cc vtwin normally takes 160/60/17 and 120/60/17) that will mostly be on-road touring, but will regularly be required to handle (well!) steep-ish gravel vehicle tracks (that you would put your shiny 4wd over - not serious off-road country) and the occasional damp grassy steep paddock (no mud.) I'd prefer they lasted a while as well, but I won't be cornering this bike hard on the road.

I'd just use road tires, but descending steep bits on grass with the dew around will be very amusing for everyone but me lol. Looking at a comet conversion hehe.

Anything other than a full knobbie will leave you in the same situation. I have a Pirelli Scorpion A/T on the front & wet clay or wet grass is still 100% pucker factor. On gravel the adventure tires give me a greater safety margin than sport touring tires but do not enable me to do more, if you get my drift.

[Oscar]

Can anyone suggest 17 inch tires (650cc vtwin normally takes 160/60/17 and 120/60/17) that will mostly be on-road touring, but will regularly be required to handle (well!) steep-ish gravel vehicle tracks (that you would put your shiny 4wd over - not serious off-road country) and the occasional damp grassy steep paddock (no mud.) I'd prefer they lasted a while as well, but I won't be cornering this bike hard on the road.

I'd just use road tires, but descending steep bits on grass with the dew around will be very amusing for everyone but me lol. Looking at a comet conversion hehe.

There are a few choices - Continetal make a TKC80 in those sizes and Pirelli make an MT60 front and an MT21 rear that would suit.

[NordieBoy]

Other than the "wet grass" bit, Shinko 705's would be the go.

[warewolf]

Anything other than a full knobbie will leave you in the same situation. I have a Pirelli Scorpion A/T on the front & wet clay or wet grass is still 100% pucker factor. On gravel the adventure tires give me a greater safety margin than sport touring tires but do not enable me to do more, if you get my drift.This. If you aren't prepared to run something that chunky on the road all the time, then you're just going to have to be really circumspect about the wet grass, steep or not!

On-road tyres are fine on gravel roads. They work nearly as well as the mild adventure tyres like the Scorpion A/Ts. Much of your control on loose gravel comes from the snowplough effect; on firm dirt roads from friction of the rubber/compound just like on-road. I did lots of gravel work on Metzeler ME33 Lazer / ME55A Metronic tyres, and they worked very very well... that was despite having the choice of swapping on the other wheels with chunkier tyres.

Which is why Nordie is having so much success with the Shinko 705s.

[NordieBoy]

Which is why Nordie is having so much success with the Shinko 705s.

Damn. I thought it was skill :no:

[warewolf]

Damn. I thought it was skill :no:'twas... Mr Shinko's skills.

[NordieBoy]

'twas... Mr Shinko's skills.

Harsh but fair.

[CookMySock]

Ah bugger. I did wonder about the grass situation. I'd be happy to compromise and accept "grass with minimal dew" instead of "wet grass", but maybe it will be no different.

Am I right thinking an 80hp 650cc bike will destroy a full knobbie in a single six-hour (road) ride, and on wet tarseal be slippery as a tit?

There was also a suggestion some time back (from a KB member), of wrapping a thin rope around the wheel and tire to give traction - snow-chains stylez. Maybe I should just stick with road tires and try this, as my off-road excursion is unlikely to be more than a ten minute ride while the road ride could be four hours.

This is all about carrying my paraglider up some mountain - the sites are almost always 4WD mandatory. Ride and Fly all day hehe. :not:

[george formby]

Ah bugger. I did wonder about the grass situation. I'd be happy to compromise and accept "grass with minimal dew" instead of "wet grass", but maybe it will be no different.

Am I right thinking an 80hp 650cc bike will destroy a full knobbie in a single six-hour (road) ride, and on wet tarseal be slippery as a tit?

There was also a suggestion some time back (from a KB member), of wrapping a thin rope around the wheel and tire to give traction - snow-chains stylez. Maybe I should just stick with road tires and try this, as my off-road excursion is unlikely to be more than a ten minute ride while the road ride could be four hours.

This is all about carrying my paraglider up some mountain - the sites are almost always 4WD mandatory. Ride and Fly all day hehe. :not:

I've more than half eaten a knobbie in less than 10 hours riding on a learner legal 2 t, probably half gravel, half tarmac.

I would be tempted to "use the force" in your endeavours rather than shell out for compromised tires. Over the years I have found fear to greatly increase my abilities when required.

[warewolf]

This is all about carrying my paraglider up some mountain - the sites are almost always 4WD mandatory. Ride and Fly all day hehe. :not:Chances are you'll have to walk up to collect the bike, so you may as well park at the landing zone and walk up to start.

I ride around on full DOT knobblies quite a bit, in fact MX fronts are tyre of choice. They are surprisingly grippy on-road but do have to be treated with respect in the wet especially when cold - just like road tyres really, and knobblies can warm up faster. But it's also fun sliding about on the tarseal around town :devil2: However if you wick it up all the time the tread will evaporate.

You can actually buy snow chain like things for bikes, and they may be a good option for you if you are regularly doing long road trips followed by short grassy bits up big hills.

You have stumbled on the great adventure conundrum. No tyre is perfect for all conditions. You have to choose your compromises.

[george formby]

Chances are you'll have to walk up to collect the bike, so you may as well park at the landing zone and walk up to start.

I ride around on full DOT knobblies quite a bit, in fact MX fronts are tyre of choice. They are surprisingly grippy on-road but do have to be treated with respect in the wet especially when cold - just like road tyres really, and knobblies can warm up faster. But it's also fun sliding about on the tarseal around town :devil2: However if you wick it up all the time the tread will evaporate.

You can actually buy snow chain like things for bikes, and they may be a good option for you if you are regularly doing long road trips followed by short grassy bits up big hills.

You have stumbled on the great adventure conundrum. No tyre is perfect for all conditions. You have to choose your compromises.

I am too on the wee bike & am very suprised at how well they hang on, on tarmac. Not been tempted to test them in the rain, well, we have had no rain so.... The rear is evaporating very quickly, though. I adjusted the suspension on the bike & stupidly while I was bouncing the suspension while riding I put the front brake on causing a lock up when the forks unloaded. Very cool chequer board effect on the road....:spanking:

[Buddha#81]

hey Chch Guys, these guys http://www.dirtzone.co.nz/ have been going for a month or so and stock MotoZ tyres http://www.motoz.co.nz/tyre-range.html . I dont know if they have been covered in here but I got a set of desert hard compond enduro tyres, Dot Rated. They are probally a bit more agressive than i'd like but for $180 for the set its worth the punt! Good crew in there too!

[atalagk]

An initial attempt to find them in NZ was not successful :( Any idea how?
Botany Honda phoned Bridgestone and they said they won't import only one for me...
Maybe online stores? From Oz?
Anyway my first post on the forum and hope to get good response.

Thanks in advance and may the force be with ya:brick:

-koray

[Transalper]

An initial attempt to find them in NZ was not successful :( Any idea how?
Botany Honda phoned Bridgestone and they said they won't import only one for me...
Maybe online stores? From Oz?
Anyway my first post on the forum and hope to get good response.

Thanks in advance and may the force be with ya:brick:

-koray

Welcome to the Forum.
Can I ask is there any reason it has to be those tyres and not a different or even better set?
Maybe they are what Honda used when they made the bike? but that's not a good reason to keep using the same.

Honda AX100 cool little bike and if I am correct...
Front Tyre 90/100- 19
Rear Tyre 120/90- 16

Funny sizes but I'd hope there will be alternatives available.

[TangoCharlie]

I have a Motoz Enduro I/T on my RM250 which is great and showing very little wear after 10 hours hard riding. Had a Motoz S/T which was too soft and last only a couple of rides (need to control the wheel spin on gravel....). I didn't know you can get Dot approved Motoz Tyres, would be worth a try on my DR650, as the current Kenda K760 is stuffed after less than 1500km....

[vegeman]

Just got the heidi installed - first thing I noticed was how strong and/or tough the construction of the tyre was. I had one go at installing it myself...but FFS, that had to be the hardest tyre ever to get on...I pinched the tube, spilt my beer and ruffed up my girly computer hands!

So next day off to TSS red baron who were open, and put the tyre with with new tube and balanced the wheel...yay.

Today as most us should know, its pissing down...so went out for its second ride. First thing I noticed was its fantastic wet weather performance, as the water on the motorway was horrendous, it tracked straight and true so it can certainly pump the water out. I did several full throttle accelerations from the lights, and passing cars etc...and again it never lost traction...awesome. My E07 (probably worn) use to slip under those conditions...so me happy.

Tomorrow should be muddy somewhere, so hopefully I can give that a test to...but its likely family stuff will get in the way :-)

[Woodman]

TKC80.

have just done about 750k on a new tkc80 and its half munted already. At this rate it won't even get to Fairlie for the db1k. :mad:

It appears to be melting. Running 23psi at the moment, was higher but handled funny and was showing melting signs so I dropped the pressure. I run all my other tyres at 25ish and they last way better than this.

I was under the impression that they were designed for heavy bikes like GS's etc. The klr is heavy but not GS heavy and has got bugger all horsepowers so I am at a loss really.

Wots others experiences with these?.

And I have not been riding very hard. (mostly).

[Cary]

The TKC's always wear fast at first but will slow down.

Pressure seems low, on the Tiger with TKC's I would run it at 34/38psi (front/rear), only went lower if traction was an issue.

I run at least 24/30psi with tyres on the XR but I've always prefered higher pressures (hate punctures!)

[vegeman]

TKC80.

have just done about 750k on a new tkc80 and its half munted already. At this rate it won't even get to Fairlie for the db1k. :mad:

I put a new tkc80 on my old xr650l for last years yamaha safari ride in twizel. I rode there, did the event, and rode back via haast. I think that was about 2500k's and the tyre also munted up quick but stabilsed. 4000K seemed to be the max, but felt the same way.

I don't use them any more. The wear was too great, and any performance value given in exchange for quick wear didn't seem to justify. Im on the ktm690 now, and I know it has twice as much power on the rear as the old xr, the chevron style tyres E07, K60 are a revelaton compared to the tkc. I rode the tkc's exlcusively for years, I probably won't go back now.

[NordieBoy]

The TKC's always wear fast at first but will slow down.

The knob centres are getting chewed/chunked

As though it's done a couple hours of open road at 120kph and 10psi.

[tri boy]

Low pressures kill TKC's.

30+ is the go untill you get on soft/slippery stuff.

Oscar informed me of this,:niceone: and the old bugga was spot on.:not: