politics and religion

[magnum]

to prevent any rant/ravings is it worth us all to not include politics and religion on this site as most seem to get a bit excited about it?what do we all think?

[scroter]

hey i seen you typing with one finger you slow arse. this is a good idea after all this site is about kiwi bikers is it not. go the spuzookis :moon:

[magnum]

broken arm,no ride for me for6 weeks.slow nite on kb?or stink topic?brrrp :beer:

[speedpro]

to prevent any rant/ravings is it worth us all to not include politics and religion on this site as most seem to get a bit excited about it?what do we all think?
God said to check with Helen, she said it's OK.

[scroter]

good on that helen girl having the wood over god(whos he).

:not: :beer:

[Jackrat]

Both piss me off no end but we do have an off topic section and this is what it's for.Hey some off us even talk about cars,sex,jokes,marriage,Boi fucken racers :killingme ,And other things that have nothing to do with bikes.
Even though I find it impossible to do myself,you don't have to read it.
Yeah some of us get a bit excited but that's only a very small part of any of us.It pays to keep that in mind.

[Zed]

broken arm,no ride for me for6 weeks.slow nite on kb?or stink topic?brrrp :beer:
Bad news steve! How'd you break your arm?

[scroter]

Both piss me off no end but we do have an off topic section and this is what it's for.Hey some off us even talk about cars,sex,jokes,marriage,Boi fucken racers :killingme ,And other things that have nothing to do with bikes.
Even though I find it impossible to do myself,you don't have to read it.
Yeah some of us get a bit excited but that's only a very small part of any of us.It pays to keep that in mind.

good point I struggle to stay awake for more than five minutes without thinking about bikes.

[merv]

Yeah I don't mind what people talk about in the Rave On thread. Politics, religion all can stay as far as I'm concerned, just doesn't mean I'll read it all and with so many members these days I haven't got the time to read all the postings anyway.

[magnum]

Bad news steve! How'd you break your arm?

forgot to turn the other cheek,nuf said :Pokey:

[spudchucka]

I'll be happy to leave religion alone but the polititians need slagging off on a regular basis.

[What?]

Somehow I manage to completely avoid the religious ravings thread. It CAN be done! Of course it means I have to talk shit elsewhere :spudwhat:

[RiderInBlack]

As you may have noticed, I have decided to stop posting in the Reg. Rav. thread because it is not helping us get on with each other. I recomend for the sake of friendship (yes, Zed, I do think of you as a friend) and harmony, that we all do the same. I jointed this site to learn more about bikes and meet others who ride as well. A bonus has been to meet some of you and to encourage new riders. I don't want to see this lost.

[wkid_one]

Weren't politics largely driving from religion in any event. Aren't much of the laws were presently must abide by driven from religious common law.....why the fuck can't I go shopping on Easter Sunday? That pisses me off - a prime example of the above - where politics is largely still a vehicle for the delivery of a religious framework for the law......

Anywho - I thought I would get in here before Zed takes this one over and starts preaching his bullshit again

Therefore - this thread is too intrinsically linked to the Religious Lunatic Thread that Zed is running.

[Ms Piggy]

Being one of those that has contributed a bit to the religious raving thread I think it's ok to be able to "rave" about things - I mean I think we're all adult enough to just not read things we're not interested in...surely?

I mean if there's a thread about something I'm not interested in I just don't read it - I kinda don't see what the big deal is.

I really enjoy this site b/c we can talk about bikes & other stuff as well.

Cheers Cathy :)

[dangerous]

Yeah I don't mind what people talk about in the Rave On thread. Politics, religion all can stay as far as I'm concerned, just doesn't mean I'll read it all and with so many members these days I haven't got the time to read all the postings anyway.



As you may have noticed, I have decided to stop posting in the Reg. Rav. thread because it is not helping us get on with each other. I recomend for the sake of friendship (yes, Zed, I do think of you as a friend) and harmony, that we all do the same. I jointed this site to learn more about bikes and meet others who ride as well. A bonus has been to meet some of you and to encourage new riders. I don't want to see this lost.

You both have the right idea even though your posts are so different so I guess as long as no one takes any comment personaly and no one abuses any one then :rockon: and :Playnice:

[KATWYN]

vBulletin in general has a heap of other interests/topics/hobbies
other than this motorcycling site anyway.

I didn't realise, until I did a search the other day after getting sick of
people trying to control what and what not to say and what and what not topics to discuss when there is clearly a "rave on" provision.

I will end up in one of those other sites for different discussions now
and discuss bikes on this one.

[Holy Roller]

As has been stated before we as people are complex individuals with a myrid of interests and convictions that can not be seperated out into little compartments. ( we all like to pidgeon hole people into our clasifications that we have made for them ). For many, religion and or politics form a fundamental base of who we are, bikes being our escape from the daily grind of life. :niceone:

For me, to seperate who I am intrinsically into compartments is next to impossible but I do stick to my rules regarding the posting of my beliefs and convictions, but I can not but be true to myself, so God and what He has done in my life will come out hopefully in a non offensive way but the to some this is highly offensive. It is not my intention to be offensive but real so apoligies in advance to who some have called a zealot but such is life :cool2:

Rock on you guys this is a great site with many fantastic people

[Hitcher]

As long as the spiritually troubled amongst us can vent in a suitably-labelled controlled environment, then that's OK with me. It's always entertaining to have a look and see where they're up to... At last look they were throwing references at each other! Very grown-up...

[Big Dog]

Question: If people are so anti religeous / political ravings why are there so many post's let alone hits?

If you no wanna read on after someone spoils a thread do what I do UNSUBSCRIBE from that thread.

I think it would be more constructive to say if you want to go off on a tangent about a political or religeous but off topic point that they should start a new thread and post a link for those who wish to follow. so that those who don't can continue wthout them.

[Hitcher]

Question: If people are so anti religeous / political ravings why are there so many post's let alone hits?

If you no wanna read on after someone spoils a thread do what I do UNSUBSCRIBE from that thread.

I think it would be more constructive to say if you want to go off on a tangent about a political or religeous but off topic point that they should start a new thread and post a link for those who wish to follow. so that those who don't can continue wthout them.

Well said!

[Ms Piggy]

Question: If people are so anti religeous / political ravings why are there so many post's let alone hits?

If you no wanna read on after someone spoils a thread do what I do UNSUBSCRIBE from that thread.

I think it would be more constructive to say if you want to go off on a tangent about a political or religeous but off topic point that they should start a new thread and post a link for those who wish to follow. so that those who don't can continue wthout them.
Good idea BD :yes:

[wkid_one]

I don't subscribe to any threads?

[Andrew]

Speaking of politics and religion, why is it that when I look at Helen the word "drag" comes to mind? :shifty: .... And I ain't thinking about the Meremere type either. :crazy:

[MikeL]

Speaking of politics and religion, why is it that when I look at Helen the word "drag" comes to mind? :shifty: .... And I ain't thinking about the Meremere type either. :crazy:

C'mon Andrew, that comment wasn't worthy of you. Robust political debate is a good and necessary thing, but it should be about policies and methods and not personal appearance, surely?

[What?]

Yeah, Andrew. You can apply physical law to politics, too. Like "what goes up must come down" and "V=IR" (votes = imbeciles ratified)

[RiderInBlack]

Speaking of politics and religion, why is it that when I look at Helen the word "drag" comes to mind? :shifty: .... And I ain't thinking about the Meremere type either. :crazy:Big Tits and a Nice Face is not what you need to run a country (although a good thick skin helps a lot). Piggy Muldon and Bolger weren't that good looking (and Piggy has been in drag).

[James Deuce]

It's just like Telly: If you don't like what's on, change channel.

Limiting topics of discussion would be a disservice to the diverse range of Human Beings populating this site, and as several people have mentioned, "Rave On" seems to be doing the job it was started for.

Censorship = bad. People making a spectacle of themselves in print = educational entertainment.

[RiderInBlack]

It's just like Telly: If you don't like what's on, change channel.

Limiting topics of discussion would be a disservice to the diverse range of Human Beings populating this site, and as several people have mentioned, "Rave On" seems to be doing the job it was started for.

Censorship = bad. People making a spectacle of themselves in print = educational entertainment.
I would not recommend censorship of the thread as this would lead these "ravings" to continue else where. I do suggust not posting in it as the posting in the Reg. Rav's. just encourages more insults and raving. I am no longer posting it that thread for that reason.
I am, on the other hand, responding directly to the persons concerned (via PM) if they post something purposily aimed at myself, recomending that they do not do so (and I will try not taking a dig at them). If it is something we can both laugh about then that is different.

[KATWYN]

Big Tits and a Nice Face is not what you need to run a country (although a good thick skin helps a lot). Piggy Muldon and Bolger weren't that good looking (and Piggy has been in drag).

Maybe Andrew meant 'Helens a drag' not 'Helens in drag'

Was Piggy a drag as well? It was slightly before my time. But I do remember
in the (late 70's I think) & early 80's McPhail & Gadsby doing a comedy take off of Muldoon :laugh: . David McPhail had him down to a T. even that hard case laugh.

[White trash]

to prevent any rant/ravings is it worth us all to not include politics and religion on this site as most seem to get a bit excited about it?what do we all think?

Sorry Steve, I don't agree. People have oppinions about far more than just bikes. I for one find some of those oppinions on other subjects interesting.

There's only so much you can say about bikes. :msn-wink:

[riffer]

Maybe Andrew meant 'Helens a drag' not 'Helens in drag'

Was Piggy a drag as well? It was slightly before my time. But I do remember
in the (late 70's I think) & early 80's McPhail & Gadsby doing a comedy take off of Muldoon :laugh: . David McPhail had him down to a T. even that hard case laugh.
He played the narrator in the first New Zealand stage version of The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Was pretty good at it too.

[toads]

Being one of those that has contributed a bit to the religious raving thread I think it's ok to be able to "rave" about things - I mean I think we're all adult enough to just not read things we're not interested in...surely?

I mean if there's a thread about something I'm not interested in I just don't read it - I kinda don't see what the big deal is.

I really enjoy this site b/c we can talk about bikes & other stuff as well.

Cheers Cathy :)

I agree, it's a good thing having freedom of expression, not having to be pc is a good thing, and as csl says we are all adults here, it's not a crime to have an opinion YET and I enjoy a healthy debate, when it becomes unhealthy I go view another thread, judging the responses to the religious thread most people enjoy putting their 2 cents worth in.

[RiderInBlack]

He played the narrator in the first New Zealand stage version of The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Was pretty good at it too.
Got it one:lol: Dad was quite upset with Piggy doing that, him being a hardened Nat supporter (me, I think it's the best thing he very did:lol: ).

[Allah]

Got it one:lol: Dad was quite upset with Piggy doing that, him being a hardened Nat supporter (me, I think it's the best thing he very did:lol: ).


THE ONE YOU CALL PIGGY IS SITTING AT MY RIGHT HAND NOW (HE SPENT SOME YEARS IN PURGATORY FOR TRYING TO CLAIM MY SEAT)

[Hitcher]

THE ONE YOU CALL PIGGY IS SITTING AT MY RIGHT HAND NOW (HE SPENT SOME YEARS IN PURGATORY FOR TRYING TO CLAIM MY SEAT)

Now that's what I call "thinking big".

[Allah]

Now that's what I call "thinking big".


HEHEHEHEHE

YOU PLEASE US

[RiderInBlack]

HEHEHEHEHE

YOU PLEASE US
Glad to hear Allah has got as sence of humor. Mmm, and 72 virgin hamsters is not too bad a deal:love: I might convert. Where do I sign-up, oh magnificent one:not:

[Coldkiwi]

so if you banned talking about politics and religion... if I'm in some Moto GP thread and say 'so and so should thank his lucky stars (that has to be astrology) that someone else crashed...' then the thread gets deleted??

get real. anyway.. keeps this place alive and buzzing :)

[Zed]

THE ONE YOU CALL PIGGY IS SITTING AT MY RIGHT HAND NOW (HE SPENT SOME YEARS IN PURGATORY FOR TRYING TO CLAIM MY SEAT)
Lol, someone doesn't know the doctrines of Islam!! :killingme

[scroter]

i thought this thread was started to leave out polotics and religion. thats right just this thread not all the other ones. didnt work though maybe a topic should have been provided as well. i thought stevezx6r's broken arm was a good start.

[Coldkiwi]

Lol, someone doesn't know the doctrines of Islam!! :killingme

oh now come on Zed, you have to give him more room for error than that or you'll be forever correcting him! Sure its a statement of the absurd anyway.. but.. well.. he is kinda absurd so it fits at least!

[Zed]

oh now come on Zed, you have to give him more room for error than that or you'll be forever correcting him! Sure its a statement of the absurd anyway.. but.. well.. he is kinda absurd so it fits at least!
I suppose so brother...this site is getting really confused since God, Jesus Christ, and Allah joined up! :msn-wink:

P.s counting down the days now CK...:niceone:


Zed

[Allah]

Lol, someone doesn't know the doctrines of Islam!! :killingme

I HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR (I SHOULD DO, I INVENTED IT), O ZED OF THE BOOK.

THE PIG IS UNCLEAN YET IS STILL ONE OF MY CREATIONS - A MAN COULD HAVE A WORSE NAME THAN "PIGGY" IN MY EYES - "GEORGE BUSH" FOR EXAMPLE.

[vifferman]

I HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR (I SHOULD DO, I INVENTED IT), O ZED OF THE BOOK.

Allah, I have no sense of humour. Could you please endow me with one?


THE PIG IS UNCLEAN YET IS STILL ONE OF MY CREATIONS - A MAN COULD HAVE A WORSE NAME THAN "PIGGY" IN MY EYES - "GEORGE BUSH" FOR EXAMPLE.

What about the platypus? Is that unclean? (Is it OK to eat them? And if so, what's the best way to cook them?)

[vifferman]

Oh - and Allah, while you're at it, could you please give Zed a sense of humour too? He takes himself (and life) WAAAAY too seriously... :Oops:

[Jesus Christ]

Oh - and Allah, while you're at it, could you please give Zed a sense of humour too? He takes himself (and life) WAAAAY too seriously... :Oops:

I have tried in the past but the most devout of my followers seem to lacking a number of attributes, humour among them :innocent:

[Motoracer]

I have tried in the past but the most devout of my followers seem to lacking a number of attributes, humour among them :innocent:

What relation is Allah to you Jesus?

[Allah]

Allah, I have no sense of humour. Could you please endow me with one?

ANYONE WHO DRESSES AS YOU DO MUST HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR, INFIDEL.



What about the platypus? Is that unclean? (Is it OK to eat them? And if so, what's the best way to cook them?)

THE QURAN IS CLEAR:
"Forbidden to you (as food) are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine and the animals on which has been invoked any name other than that of Allah and which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow or killed by a fall or that which has been gored to death, that which has been (partly) eaten by wild animal unless you are able to slaughter it in due form, that which is sacrificed on shrines" (5 : 4).

YOU MUST KILL IT ACCORDING TO THE HALAAL WAY.

[Dr Bob]

good point I struggle to stay awake for more than five minutes without thinking about bikes.

When you are off your bike you struggle to go five minutes without thinking about bikes. Can you manage five minutes when you are actually riding your bike - isn't this when you get in contact with your spiritual side.

[Allah]

Oh - and Allah, while you're at it, could you please give Zed a sense of humour too? He takes himself (and life) WAAAAY too seriously... :Oops:

THE ONE YOU CALL ZED HAS BEEN PLACED ON EARTH AS A TRIAL FOR THE FAITHFUL. THAT ONE IS CALLED "A TRIAL BY TEDIUM" - FOR IT IS WRITTEN:

...and so Zed was sent to the faithful and he spake thusly for 30 days and 30 nights and the faithful did lament and there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth and banging of heads on temple walls as Zed spake the word on and on and on and on and on and on world without end..."

[MikeL]

world without end..."[/i]

Wrong. Zed and CK are counting down the days. Can't be long now.

Is it the rapture that you are most looking forward to, Zed, or the fire and brimstone for the rest of us?

[vifferman]

...and so Zed was sent to the faithful and he spake thusly for 30 days and 30 nights and the faithful did lament and there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth and banging of heads on temple walls as Zed spake the word on and on and on and on and on and on world without end..."

Thirty days and nights?!? Thirty days!?!?&%$#@!!! :angry:
You're a feckin' eedjit, Allah (no offense, you stupid bastid)! He's been pissing people off for far longer than that!

Homer Simpson said you were a cruel and vengeful god, and he was right!

[Zed]

Is it the rapture that you are most looking forward to, Zed, or the fire and brimstone for the rest of us?
Sounds like a question for the other thread Mike. :sneaky2:

[vifferman]

Sounds like a question for the other thread Mike. :sneaky2:

Sounds like evasion, Zed. :bleh:

[Allah]

Thirty days and nights?!? Thirty days!?!?&%$#@!!! :angry:
You're a feckin' eedjit, Allah (no offense, you stupid bastid)! He's been pissing people off for far longer than that!

Homer Simpson said you were a cruel and vengeful god, and he was right!

I MAY BE A CRUEL AND VENGEFUL GOD BUT I HAVE MY LIMITS - 30 DAYS OF ZED IS TOO MUCH - TALK TO JC...

[vifferman]

I MAY BE A CRUEL AND VENGEFUL GOD BUT I HAVE MY LIMITS - 30 DAYS OF ZED IS TOO MUCH - TALK TO JC...

Ehhh... I tried, but he seemed to busy with someone else. :(

[Motoracer]

Ehhh... I tried, but he seemed to busy with someone else. :(

Did he put you on hold too or say that he'll get back to you?

[scroter]

When you are off your bike you struggle to go five minutes without thinking about bikes. Can you manage five minutes when you are actually riding your bike - isn't this when you get in contact with your spiritual side.

spiritual side never heard of it. far to manly for that.

[vifferman]

Did he put you on hold too or say that he'll get back to you?
Oh - I didn't actually get to speak to Himself, just his P.A., Lucifer SomeoneOrOther. Had a very nice voice, but made some VERY rude suggestions about what I could do while I was waiting.... :eek5: