''Bugatti kicks superbike'' [Archive]

APPLE

6th July 2006, 18:43

Reading Automotive today:''The Bugatti veyron has wiped the floor with the opposition in a contest to find the car that takes the least amount of time to go from a standing start to 160km/h and back again. The veyron even managed to beat a GSXR 1000 superbike in the raceoff.Featuring 25 of the worlds fastest cars from the 14th placed aston marton v8 vintage to the 2nd placed ariel atom,the shootout pitches the cars against each other in a straight fight to see which is the fastest to 160kph or 100mph.the veyron with its 740kw(1000bhp)16 cyclinder wasnt necessarily the fav to win.not only was the bugatti faster than the suzuki,it creates more g force at maximum accelaration than you'd experiance from an F16 jet fighter,at take off or when skydiving.WTF??????? IM GETTIN ME A PARACHUTE

Toast

6th July 2006, 18:47

What was the time for the Bugatti? And the Gix?

A mag I had a while back had a Gix against a 1000hp Skyline, Pagani Zonda, etc...and the bike was miles ahead in acceleration, but not as good slowing down. Still beat them overall by a comfortable margin.

That Bugatti is a monster though, I'd not be surprised if it beat the Gix.

Gremlin

6th July 2006, 18:50

Who cares... with a decent income, I could actually buy the bikes... try buying a veyron...

justsomeguy

6th July 2006, 18:53

Who cares... with a decent income, I could actually buy the bikes... try buying a veyron...

I just read the article about an hour ago -

GSXR1000 = $19,995
Bugatti veyron = $2,600,000

I think that sorta settles it.

:first:

Skunk

6th July 2006, 18:55

Who cares... with a decent income, I could actually buy the bikes... try buying a veyron...
The Atom is nearly affordable.

With none of the comfort.

Mr. Peanut

6th July 2006, 18:55

How about a Turbo Hayabusa? :motu: :ar15:

APPLE

6th July 2006, 18:57

i should hav enuf pennies saved for a bugatti in about 2,600,000 years from now?

APPLE

6th July 2006, 19:00

Toast

6th July 2006, 19:00

Price aside, still quite an interesting comparison:

Figures are time to 30mph, 60mph, 100mph, reaction time, braking time

Suzuki GSX-R1000 : 1.61 3.30 5.60 0.10 5.10 = 10.70 s

Bugatti Veyron : 1.40 2.80 5.50 0.20 3.40 = 9.9 s

Interesting that the Gix gets from 60mph to 100mph quicker...pity it can't use the power before that...damn physics.

EDIT: Source: http://news.caradisiac.com/La-Bugatti-Veyron-accelere-tres-fort

sAsLEX

6th July 2006, 19:01

I just read the article about an hour ago -

GSXR1000 = $19,995
Bugatti veyron = $2,600,000

I think that sorta settles it.

:first:

linky????

how did the konieiegsigigsigenmsnsgegsgesmemsegsgetqzdasgdgegs ccx do?

ahh i see they didnt include the most likely compettition

oldguy

6th July 2006, 19:10

why didn't they use an R1 , ZX10 or 1400 :yes:

Toast

6th July 2006, 19:14

I reckon that the Gix would be the quickest in this test oldguy...

the 14 may be quicker to 100mph, but it would be close.

Braking between the 14 and Gix would be interesting. The 14 being lower and less likely to stoppie, but the Gix being much lighter...would probably still be the Gix that stops quicker.

ducatilover

6th July 2006, 19:15

The Atom is nearly affordable.

With none of the comfort.
can the atom do 150mph in 12.8sec like a k5 thou?:wait:

onearmedbandit

6th July 2006, 19:21

Probably not, but that's not the point of that car.

ducatilover

6th July 2006, 19:25

Probably not, but that's not the point of that car.
it isnt? couldve fooled me. id like one though:rockon:

WINJA

6th July 2006, 19:37

onearmedbandit

6th July 2006, 20:09

it isnt? couldve fooled me. id like one though:rockon:

It's not so much designed for high speed work, more cornering. I'm not say it's slow (because it isn't) but it hasn't got the top end punch of a litre bike.

onearmedbandit

6th July 2006, 20:11

the bike is limited by its wheelstanding , its a stupid comparo in a way cause 160 kmh is only first gear on a gix and even if the bike had 300hp itll still only accelrate the same to 160 , with no other mods but an extended swingarm the gix time would be reduced alot

Very good point WINJA. Jack Frosts turbo'ed GSXR1000 is slower than a std K5 to 160km/h. Too hard to find the balance between wheelie/wheelspin and good acceleration.

ducatilover

6th July 2006, 20:18

It's not so much designed for high speed work, more cornering. I'm not say it's slow (because it isn't) but it hasn't got the top end punch of a litre bike.
good point

Mr. Peanut

6th July 2006, 20:28

I just read the article about an hour ago -

GSXR1000 = $19,995
Bugatti veyron = $2,600,000

I think that sorta settles it.

:first:

RATO unit. $10000
Brick wall $900
Skate Board $150

Figures are time to 30mph, 60mph, 100mph, reaction time, braking time

RATOboard : 1.2 1.70 1.90 0.00 0.0001 = 2.00 s

:rockon:

Motu

6th July 2006, 20:35

Who cares... with a decent income, I could actually buy the bikes... try buying a veyron...

I guess you'll never be rich and afford some quality in your life,you'll just have to be jealous of those who can afford a Veyron.

And me ?? I just don't care at all.....

justsomeguy

6th July 2006, 20:53

linky????

how did the konieiegsigigsigenmsnsgegsgesmemsegsgetqzdasgdgegs ccx do?

ahh i see they didnt include the most likely compettition

It's today's copy (actual physical paper), I read it at work.

The Koenigsegg is good but is supposed to be a biatch to drive, even the Stig (from Top Gear) found it a handful. Jeremy on the other hand drove the Veyron for an entire day pretty much non-stop accross Europe and found it a lovely drive - He wasn't cruising either.

I'm sure a Moto GP bike is much cheaper than the Veyron - they should have tested that too, if they could find an A1 car.

Gremlin

6th July 2006, 21:01

The Atom is nearly affordable.
uh-huh... I class it as sorta like a trike. The comfort/weather durability of a bike, but the splitting ability of a car. It can corner like a bike - for those that can't on a bike :nya:

I guess you'll never be rich and afford some quality in your life,you'll just have to be jealous of those who can afford a Veyron.
oi!!!! I never said I wanted a sooki... I'd have the zx10 if anything. :doobey:

Who the hell would want 2.6 mil tied up in a depreciating liability (unless some get crashed - like the mclaren f1). $2.6m would earn a heck of a lot of interest...

Motu

6th July 2006, 21:31

To some people that's just loose change,there is no limit to how much money you can have - you're in the wrong job.

Gremlin

6th July 2006, 21:38

To some people that's just loose change,there is no limit to how much money you can have - you're in the wrong job.
I know... I'm a labourer... as I have hopefully just finished uni, I'm looking for an IT job, hopefully something like IT support...

Would this give me this loose change you speak of?? :love:

N4CR

6th July 2006, 21:56

No gremlin it won't. IT ain't that great tbh compared to other easier stuff nowadays (not selling drugs).

Anyway, yes the veyron beat the gixxer... good on it, you'd sorta hope so, rather amazing car etc etc. But remember this... that gixxer will keep doing it day in day out for the next 20,000k's, only stopping for oil and clutches, where as that veyron would have bent conrods and pistons all through the bodywork after a few thousand. :second:

Besides, i'd have more fun in the gixxer anyway. And if you mod a bike it will beat that car blah blah.. always something faster eh..

Swoop

6th July 2006, 22:01

,it creates more g force at maximum accelaration than you'd experiance from an F16 jet fighter,at take off or when skydiving.WTF??????? IM GETTIN ME A PARACHUTE
0 - 200kph in 10 seconds. (Can be done much quicker - like 4 secs).
From 1000ft you could do the acceleration and the stop in 10 secs. Slightly messy though.

For sale: parachute. Used once, small stain. Offers.

Timber020

6th July 2006, 22:11

$5000 dollar spend on wheeliebars and it would be a closer thing. Hey how about a wheelie bar in front to help it under brakes? Would suck to ride but its start and stop times would be good.

$2,600,000 later and its still just a cage. thats 130 GSXR1000's or 1733333.33333 pies. if working at McD's making $8 in the hand in standard week thats over 156 years of work.

loosebruce

6th July 2006, 22:32

but it hasn't got the top end punch of a litre bike.

I'd disagree there, the Veyron would piss on a litre bike in top end punch, and piss on from a great height then most prolly turn around and shit on it as well.

The GSXR may only just edge it out upto a shy over 200kph, the Veyron gets off the line extermly fast hence the slightly quicker time, once the GSXR gets into it's stride it does gain a bit, but man over 200kph and the Veyron will haul the GSXR in with an extreme amount of ease, and when the GSXR is struggling past the 280kph mark the Veyron will still have you back in the seat the same it did at 160kph.
But at the end of the day you're talking about a 400kph plus car that you can buy for less than what it cost to make the thing and there isn't much pratical about a quad turbo 16 cylinder car.

Fcukin cool shit though.

sil3nt

6th July 2006, 22:35

Not sure if you guys have seen this or not but i'll show yah anyway:
Honda F1 vs Honda Fireblade vs Honda powerboat.

Long version: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2mUBCNg3xO8&search=f1%20car%20bike%20boat

Short version: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1914692207624681889&q=f1+car+bike+boat

sAsLEX

6th July 2006, 23:14

It's today's copy (actual physical paper), I read it at work.

The Koenigsegg is good but is supposed to be a biatch to drive, even the Stig (from Top Gear) found it a handful. Jeremy on the other hand drove the Veyron for an entire day pretty much non-stop accross Europe and found it a lovely drive - He wasn't cruising either.

ummm who wants a boring car to drive?!?!

The stig actually puts the new K ccx through a tire wall in the 8th season of top gear! And suggests that part of the reason is the standard models lack of a rear wing, so they (koionginonieniegegcencnegde) take it back slap a nice wing on and give it back to the stig who then sets the lap record of the Top Gear track on it!

And how much fun is a boring non responsive cage????? You want something thats got a little edge if you cant be on two wheels!

onearmedbandit

6th July 2006, 23:58

I'd disagree there, the Veyron would piss on a litre bike in top end punch, and piss on from a great height then most prolly turn around and shit on it as well.

Fcukin cool shit though.

Dude, I was talking about the Atom, not the Veyron. That's a no-brainer!

Lou Girardin

7th July 2006, 08:28

Top end?
Bugatti - 370 k's, 400 with aero aids retracted.
Gixxer - 275, 280 k's.

Which one will be quicker to Coro on a Friday evening in summer?

Motu

7th July 2006, 08:44

And which one is better for taking that model you met at the opening function for your new superstore in Sylvia Park Mall down to your beach front 3,000 square foot 2 bedroom cottage at the Mount for the weekend?

I know what I'd rather do,but if I could afford a Bugatti why the fuck would I want to ride a bloody Suzuki?

Finn

7th July 2006, 08:45

I went to the unveiling of the Bugatti a couple of years back. I got a robot chubby when they started the thing up. They've had huge production problems which delayed delivery between 12 to 24 months.

What was even better was seeing all the old Bugatti's on display. Now they were cars.

Lou Girardin

7th July 2006, 08:56

What's a robot chubby?

sAsLEX

7th July 2006, 08:57

What was even better was seeing all the old Bugatti's on display. Now they were cars.

hmmmm: 1.33 gallons (5 liters) per minute.

I build them to go, not to stop.

and some other pearlers

Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races!

Caroll Shelby

Aerodynamics are for people who cannot build engines.

Enzo Ferrari

Carburetor is a French word meaning 'leave it alone'.

Dick O'Kane

loosebruce

7th July 2006, 09:00

That's a no-brainer!

Pleantly of people fit that catergory here.

Thought you shopuld know better and you did lol, missed the atom part!

Two Smoker

7th July 2006, 12:06

It wasnt a stocker gixxer either... the race bike version.... Upmost respect for the Bugatti putting down 9.9 seconds for the 0-100-0 time... even more impressive is the A1GP's time of 8.8 seconds... I seem to remember the Mclaren GTR doing 0-100-0 in 10.1 seconds which is also fucking fast...

The Bugatti is a work of art... There will never be another car like it, and the price wont ever depreciate on it either... If i had the money i would have one... But since i dont ill stick with bikes, and if i had a little bit spare i would go for a Atom...

texmo

7th July 2006, 16:09

Pleantly of people fit that catergory here.

Thought you shopuld know better and you did lol, missed the atom part!
Teach you for reading posts at midnight after working 13hours with about 2 hours commuting time and have the flu. You gave it to me btw you bastard.

N4CR

7th July 2006, 16:20

Teach you for reading posts at midnight after working 13hours with about 2 hours commuting time and have the flu. You gave it to me btw you bastard.

Sure it wasn't me although mine has died down last few days. Btw if it don't rain i'll be up for some stoppie practice if i'm not going out tonight (might do though..)

Drunken Monkey

7th July 2006, 16:21

... You gave it to me btw you bastard.

Next time don't kiss him after you blow him...

Finn

7th July 2006, 17:25

What's a robot chubby?

It's an erection Lou.

Lou Girardin

7th July 2006, 17:31

It's an erection Lou.

Nooo. REALLY?
Is yours bionic or is it just that you can't handle the viagra?

Finn

7th July 2006, 17:33

Nooo. REALLY?
Is yours bionic or is it just that you can't handle the viagra?

Viagra is great. It stops me from falling out of bed at night.

TwoSeven

7th July 2006, 17:56

I believe the bugatti is the 2nd fastest car from 0-100-0. I think the Ultima GTR is faster :)

imdying

7th July 2006, 18:29

I believe the bugatti is the 2nd fastest car from 0-100-0. I think the Ultima GTR is faster :)
I think on the 6th of June you would've been correct, but from the 28th of June onward, the Veyron is the new king dick. Although, they were measured by different sources, so who would know... and the Ultima is a kit car.

oldguy

7th July 2006, 19:27

who cares if it is fast,we are all here because we are into bikes, we are into them for our own reason's.
There's know were to drive it on our roads anyway, maybe down the southern motorway but state highway 1, you would scraped the ass out of it going to welly, and as a track day car, puke not that great, make a good talking point in my lounge.

ducatilover

7th July 2006, 23:42

I believe the bugatti is the 2nd fastest car from 0-100-0. I think the Ultima GTR is faster :)
didnt the chaterham [sp] r500 or something beat the macca f1 and all the other things?