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SPman
31st May 2004, 20:27
this gets here..... a handheld laser camera with a range of 2kms!
FFS!
The device, which can be operated just as easily from behind a bush as from the back of a van, can detect a speeding car long before the driver has a chance to spot the police officer wielding it. A high-quality video camera will simultaneously record the licence plate and a picture of the driver so that there can be no argument about who was behind the wheel.:eek::eek::eek:


http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12389-1123664,00.html

maybe
31st May 2004, 20:35
Dam what next :argh:

6Chris6
31st May 2004, 20:59
SH$T.

Oh well, might as well set up automatic payment to the courts now :moon:

jimbo600
31st May 2004, 22:04
this gets here..... a handheld laser camera with a range of 2kms!
FFS!
The device, which can be operated just as easily from behind a bush as from the back of a van, can detect a speeding car long before the driver has a chance to spot the police officer wielding it. A high-quality video camera will simultaneously record the licence plate and a picture of the driver so that there can be no argument about who was behind the wheel.:eek::eek::eek:


http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12389-1123664,00.html

There's little chance a cop can spot a speeding car at 2km's Plus, there aint no way a camera can record information 2km's away with detail. Haze, heat haze, seismic tremors to name but a few all degrade image quality. The max you could get on a perfect day is about 1km if lucky and you happen to have the hubble telescope handy.

matthewt
31st May 2004, 22:28
There's little chance a cop can spot a speeding car at 2km's Plus, there aint no way a camera can record information 2km's away with detail. Haze, heat haze, seismic tremors to name but a few all degrade image quality. The max you could get on a perfect day is about 1km if lucky and you happen to have the hubble telescope handy.

What if you shine the sun out of WT's arse towards the on-coming car :p

FROSTY
31st May 2004, 22:38
looks like we all need to buy harleys for road use and save the fast bikes for
the racetrack.

Bandito
31st May 2004, 22:42
If these devices are laser operated wouldn't it be easy to foul them? COMMENTS PLEASE!

Jackrat
31st May 2004, 23:14
Oh well lazer range finders are available now,and I have a spoting scope that you can read the writing on a golf ball with at 500 meters or a car #plate at 1000 easy so I guess anythings possible.The cop would just need to sit on a hill with the right optics an that's all she wrote.I would imagine the cop would just take the pic' at closer range than he got the speed read out at.
Wait til they start useing remote controled planes.
I reckon all the shot gun types would find a new sport. :eek5: :lol:

spudchucka
1st June 2004, 01:06
Dam what next :argh:
GPS transponders in vehicles linked by satelite to computers that remotely generate infringement notices whenever your vehicle exceeds the given speed limit??? Scary thought isn't it! No need then for all those hated HP dudes.

boris
1st June 2004, 09:00
IT'S HERE...saw it in use last week on the way to Palmerston North he nabed a truck coming down the dip by shannon he was standing next to a red commador station wagon, pessengers side.I saw a flash but no big camera,just some small thing in his hand.I was in my car,with a mate so he had a good look.I thought it counld be a speed normal gun but no one was pulling people over,no other :Police: down the road.

White trash
1st June 2004, 09:06
What if you shine the sun out of WT's arse towards the on-coming car :p

WTF?!!!

Where the hell did that come from? :confused:

vifferman
1st June 2004, 09:16
WTF?!!!

Where the hell did that come from? :confused:

Out of your arse, apparently.

matthewt
1st June 2004, 09:40
WTF?!!!

Where the hell did that come from? :confused:

It just popped into my head at the time :moon:

White trash
1st June 2004, 09:45
You gotta strange way of thinking, Matt.

Everybodies gonna think me and Jimbo are rooting or something :eyepoke:

shandawg
1st June 2004, 09:53
What we need then is some sort of optical device to spot the cops 2km away.

Then we can just turn off before we reach them !

matthewt
1st June 2004, 10:33
You gotta strange way of thinking, Matt.

Everybodies gonna think me and Jimbo are rooting or something :eyepoke:

What you aren't ?? Damm I'd better retract that post I made on the religous thread about you two, maybe you won't burn in hell after all.

I went to a Cisco seminar in Singapore once. Cisco make mainly network gear, hubs, switches and routers. Now we say "router" so that it would rhyme with "outer" but with the yanks it said like "rooter". Heading into the seminar I was asked "are you here for the talk about rooters ??" It made me laugh, sad I know but after 2 years in boring Singapore I was laughing the whole way through the talk.

vifferman
1st June 2004, 11:14
You're seriously deranged, Matt. And you used to seem like such a nice boy.
P'raps it was working in too close proximity to me that did it.... :doh:

vifferman
1st June 2004, 11:55
this gets here..... a handheld laser camera with a range of 2kms!

Kewl! :headbang:


The device, which can be operated just as easily from behind a bush as from the back of a van, can detect a speeding car long before the driver has a chance to spot the police officer wielding it. A high-quality video camera will simultaneously record the licence plate and a picture of the driver so that there can be no argument about who was behind the wheel

Mega! :gob:

I want one!

pete376403
1st June 2004, 12:40
Small lasers emitting non visible light mounted on the front of the bike. Might be enough to confuse the cop lasers. If the light is non visible they can't bill you for showing red light to the front (in fact they wouldn't even know they were there)

vifferman
1st June 2004, 13:21
That's even more kewlerer!
Must get me son to make me one... :cool:

k14
1st June 2004, 13:27
What you aren't ?? Damm I'd better retract that post I made on the religous thread about you two, maybe you won't burn in hell after all.

I went to a Cisco seminar in Singapore once. Cisco make mainly network gear, hubs, switches and routers. Now we say "router" so that it would rhyme with "outer" but with the yanks it said like "rooter". Heading into the seminar I was asked "are you here for the talk about rooters ??" It made me laugh, sad I know but after 2 years in boring Singapore I was laughing the whole way through the talk.

Yeah, that is a really strange thing I find. Normally the yanks say stuff differently for no reason at all, but saying "rooter" makes sense. When you drive somewhere you take a given route (root) and that is how I have always heard NZers say it. But with a router, we pronounce it differently, it should be called a "rooter" it sounds funny aswell. "I'm having some problems with my rooter, i can't seem to pinhole it properly", lol :Offtopic:

Hooks
1st June 2004, 13:54
I watched one of guns in action in Paraparaumu about 3 years ago !!...The cop was picking up speeding drivers on the straights from 3 kms away !! I had a go and wasn't hard to use either....just point and shoot ....and keep doing it until you catch a quickie !!.....The best catch of the day was a guy towing trailer at 140kph !!!.........
I would think that they would have trouble getting the info needed for a bike for an infringement notice as they only get the front view ....no plates and it's hard to recognise anyone with a full-face on too !!! :ride: So if there's no chaser or a camera pointing the other way then the bikers win !! :finger: ....maybe ??? :whistle:

matthewt
1st June 2004, 22:32
When you drive somewhere you take a given route (root) and that is how I have always heard NZers say it.

Geez, wish I got a root every time I went for a drive !!

madandy
2nd June 2004, 06:08
I'm sure the good people at Valentine will upgrade their excellent radar detactors to sort these new lasers out.They too have a range, in a straight line, of 2-3Kms and 500m+ round bends.And yeah, good luck with rear mounted reg. plates

Lou Girardin
2nd June 2004, 06:39
Like I said in another post, who can hold any sort of optically tracked device steadily on a moving target long enough to get a lock at 3 km's?
Besides, we don't have that many straight, flat roads that long.
Even if they could, there's always laser jammers.
Any old laser won't do, pete376403. It has to be designed for the job.

brit_vtr
2nd June 2004, 06:51
Like I said in another post, who can hold any sort of optically tracked device steadily on a moving target long enough to get a lock at 3 km's?
Besides, we don't have that many straight, flat roads that long.
Even if they could, there's always laser jammers.
Any old laser won't do, pete376403. It has to be designed for the job.

UK Cops now have an accurate (very) laser good for 1.5 miles , I am told that it is 2 lasers in 1. 1 laser locks the target the does the speed thing.
They have come about from milspec products used for target location.

RiderInBlack
2nd June 2004, 07:16
Besides, we don't have that many straight, flat roads that long.Yer, but we have enough to keep the cops happy:Police: Try speeding down Ruakaka/Waipu Straights or Ngatea. Matamata is not much better. I just about dose off down those straights trying to keep my speeds legal:thud:

brit_vtr
2nd June 2004, 07:29
Yer, but we have enough to keep the cops happy:Police: Try speeding down Ruakaka/Waipu Straights or Ngatea. Matamata is not much better. I just about dose off down those straights trying to keep my speeds legal:thud:

Being a "South Islander" by birth I never spent much time up norf, choosing to play on the Arthurs or Lewis passes, and the odd blast darn south..those were the days............

Okay so heres my question then

1. What is the "self" imposed speed limit
2. What is the "legal" speed limit

Guess I am lucky, can always "hop" over to France, Italy or Germany and spend all day at 150 mph !!!
:first:

Lou Girardin
3rd June 2004, 07:01
UK Cops now have an accurate (very) laser good for 1.5 miles , I am told that it is 2 lasers in 1. 1 laser locks the target the does the speed thing.
They have come about from milspec products used for target location.

All laser beams are accurate, but I was refering to operator ability. Have you ever tried holding a 'scope' sight on a moving target at 600 metres? It ain't easy.
Any misalignment or movement of the optical sight of the gun will result in a huge shift at that distance, unless the unit is gyro stabilised and I'd doubt if any Police force wants to pay military prices for their lasers. It'd completely screw up the cost/revenue ratio. At 3 km's you could argue in court that the operator was getting a reading off the car behind or beside you. ( This has happened in the US)

brit_vtr
3rd June 2004, 07:09
All laser beams are accurate, but I was refering to operator ability. Have you ever tried holding a 'scope' sight on a moving target at 600 metres? It ain't easy.
Any misalignment or movement of the optical sight of the gun will result in a huge shift at that distance, unless the unit is gyro stabilised and I'd doubt if any Police force wants to pay military prices for their lasers. It'd completely screw up the cost/revenue ratio. At 3 km's you could argue in court that the operator was getting a reading off the car behind or beside you. ( This has happened in the US)

I wonder what the calibration requirement is, I beleive that over here the rozzers need to produce a certificate of calibration that is less than 72 hours old.

RiderInBlack
3rd June 2004, 07:27
1. What is the "self" imposed speed limit
2. What is the "legal" speed limit
1. What mine? Changes with the riding condition. Ideal conditions in a 100KPH zone in a known policed zone, around 110KPH (Speedo is in MPH so I sit between 65-70MPH). Known cop-free zone, ideal conditions, straight with good visibility:shutup: (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=33#):shutup:
2. Open road max 100KPH

brit_vtr
3rd June 2004, 08:00
1. What mine? Changes with the riding condition. Ideal conditions in a 100KPH zone in a known policed zone, around 110KPH (Speedo is in MPH so I sit between 65-70MPH). Known cop-free zone, ideal conditions, straight with good visibility:shutup: (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=33#):shutup:
2. Open road max 100KPH
I probably ride at about 80-85 mph on the open road (motorways).....until the red mist comes down...hmmm best not say, you never know who maybe listening !!!
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